University of South Carolina Libraries
Touched Tillman. He Takes Issue With Gov. Evans About Clemson. STICKS TO CONSTABLES. A Lengthy Interview With the South Carolina Senator -Expresses His Views Fully. Senator Tillman, who was in the city on Wednesday, was seen and asked his opinion in regard to the mach talked .of strictures of Gover? nor Evans on the state of affairs at ' Clemson ^The senator replied thoughtfully, walking back and forth ? across the floor with his hands behind his back "Tam surprised,'* he said, "at the attitude of seeming antagonism that the governor has assumed, and also with the one sidedness, so to speak, of the comparison he makes between Clemson and Winthrop As I ara a tsustee of both colleges, I ara of course more or less familiar with the details of their managen! and also with the difficulties under which th*?y have labored. And a great many who people have criticised, and who perhaps have grounds for ciiticism, would understand the situation better if they could be made to understand the complex character of the work which we are trying to organize and c rry on at Clemson. Professors to CU the various chairs are plentiful suDerabundant. in fact-and it is only a question of who to choose ; whereas, to find .suitable men to teach the branches which we are try ing to make the foundation of the education we are giving at Clemson has been a great and difficult under? taking In fact, we have two col leges side by side at Clemson, and they are both entirely new to our people, and there are no men edu cated in the south who are fitted for teaching in either. The mechanical department is in effect a technologi cal school embracing engineering, both mechanical and electrical ; and experts in the various branches, who must be paid, and paid handsomely, to .be obtained at all. or else a boy who goes there wi 1 not be able to get the special training he desires and needs "There is foundry work, electrical engineerir and ali the vatious branches embraced under the head of mechanics and engineering Then when we go to the agricultural side of the college we have the chemical department, the practical application of the science of agriculture, horti? culture, dairying, horiculture, veteri nary science, and in addition to this we are charged by the United States government with experimental work for which we receive an annual ap - propriation of $15,000, known as the Hatch fund And then comes the analysis and inspection of fertilizers, another separate branch, requiring a clerk and inspectors and analysis, and it is easy to see that with all of these expert men, who tare not re quired in an ordinary literary school, our corps of teachers must largely exceed what they would employ "Then coming to the literary or English schooj, because, while we are teaching these industrial and practical arts to agriculture and hor? ticulture, we have to have the same -professors as the ordinary coUege ; in other word?, have never supposed it was the intention of the State to ?end forth boys from Clemson that could not speak and write English correctly and be able to enter into discussion with the ordinary college graduate on terms of equality. Th** demands which come from some sources that we shall cofine our? selves to agriculture and mechanics, accompanied on the other hand with the demand that we shall not have a fitting school, would appear to re quire the trustees and laculty to make brick without straw The friends of the denominational col? leges demand that we shall not com pete with other colleges in literary training and that we lower Clemson to the level of a mere labor school, in which the boys be required to work and go forth mere artisans or meehinists or farL laborers, without the necessary metal training. If we put the school on that level then we had better kill it. But at the same time we are confronted with the fact that a great matty of the boys who come, being the sons of farmers in remote neighborhoods away from high schools and having little oppor? tunity to prepare themselves. ? have reached the age of above j 15, for they cannot enter young j er, without sufficient training to en- j able them to enter the freshman c?as* although the requirements are very low ; and we are thus brought face to j face with tbe proposition whether we i are to turn these youths away and not give thou the benefit of the train- ; in<r, or whether we are to take them ? in and train their minds in the ele- ! menlary branches of an ordinary j education, while they are learning the technical branches taught in the 7 school. When the college was firs organized we had no fitting e_ 1 but admitted all who came tcT~"fri freshmen class, but were required b; circumstances to organize the pre paratory school, which was taugh by the entire faculty In othe words, the students of arithmetii would go to the professor of mathe matics, but when they were out o his room they were left to their o wi devises, and never having beei schooled to study, they did not knov how lo study and did not know real ly how to prepare their lessons ; ant after having tried that system for t year, we decided to organize a pre paratory school and put them in i (br six honre a day at least, so tha the professor could overlook and as sist them "But thc point which I wish t( make in regard to the governor'1 criticism is this: Winthrop, wit! whose management I am familiar and of which I have nothing to saj except that it it has been as wei managed as any new college that ha* ever been organized, has as large i preparatory department as Clemsor and the girls of Routh Carolina havt shown that they are no better pre pared to do college work than th? boy s who hayo gone to Clemson 1: there were schools in every county, within the reach of the poor boys, who have had no opportunity to pre? pare to enter the freshman class and of these poor girls, too, I, would be the last man to encourage them to go ti) Clemson and Winthrop unfitted But the State has expended large sums on equipping these colleges ; they have faculties on the ground and the question is wnether they must confine themselves to teaching only those who are fitted to enter and do college work I, for one, would be glad to pee an improvement in the common schools and high schools that would enable ^ the colleges to take only these*who were fitted and 1 have lent every effort in the Con 6 tita tiona! convention, in increasing the two mill tax to a three mill tax, and I see no reason why in the near future we may not have a system of free schools that will ruu at least six months when we will not offer an op? portunity to any future governor to demand that we shall not have fitting schools run at the ?State's expense "Furthermore, the South Carolina college has ever since its organiza lion had boys enter who were not fitted to do the work of the freshman class, and I do not see why Clemson should be singled out and a demand made that it shall not receive these illy prepared boys, who have not had an opportunity to get the necessary training. " Object lessons afforded a farmer's son at Clemson is in itself almost an education.' When aeked what he had to say about the dispensary part of Gov? ernor Evans's message he said that he was not discussing the dispensary "What do you think Clemson can be run this year for ?" i4I am glad you mentioned that." he replied, "for it enables me to state that all the money spent has not been spent for running expenses I have not the figures, but I know that a large part of it was appropriated by the trustees last year for equipment, and I would like to say in that con? nection right here to the members of the general assembly that they can not 6peud money more wisely than by going in a body to those two in? stitutions and seeing where the money has gone and what has been done with it, and then decide what they want done with them, and what ever they do 1 will be satisfied with it, for I am sure they will act wise? ly." "How much will it take to run Clemson this year ?" ' We are told that we have spend $40,000 ; $15,000 of that cernes from the national governmeent for experi mental work, by a special appropria? tion, and we have at Clemson a let? ter from the authorities at Washing ton to deprive ns of the benefit of that appropriation if we use it for any other than purely experimental purposes So we have to use that appropriation for experimental pur? poses solely, while the enemies of the college contend that the national appropriation ?s enough to suppor the institution "But even after thus using it and depending on the other sources of income, I think, and I have said time and again, that after we are thorough ly equipped we can get along with ?30.000 additional to the appropria tions, and I think if the legislature will give us ?30,000 and give the balance of the privilege tax to Win j throp that the two colleges can be j run on the privilege tax almost with- j out an appropriation from the treas? ury." ?.How much of the ?194,000 was for tuition fees ?" "There were no tuition fees charged It will be remembered that during toe Constitutional convention tho question of tuition fees wa? brought up, and I was twitted, or rather the question was asked, why no fees had bi-en charged. Taking if as a personal a!?union. I said I sent my cheek for the hiirion 'for my soo, and had had ii returned with th* j statement that Mr. Tinda! and myself; were the only two tha? had tendered i tuition fees and that thc b'>ard of hus- : ?ces, under rh(> act accepting the Clem- j son bequest, bsd decided that ive were j entitled to froe tuition under Clemson's will, and tb? money wa? "returned. When ? was governor I once or twice called the attention of the general as sembly to the necessity for some act designating some method by which tbe college should arrive at a knowledge as to who should pay tuition fees The Citadel has had difficulty in regard to beneficiary scholarships. At Winthrop we have simply to put the students and their parents on their honor. At Ciem son we are barred under the act from chargiog tuition even and it is neces? sary to amend the law " "Under the existing law couldn't the board collect tuition as well as at the other colleges ?" "No " "Can they ever obarge tuition fees ?" "If they will ohange the law we can charge them and determine who is to pay them " "I thought there was some condi? tion ?" * "Therv J a condition in Mr Clem? son's will which was tuiauoderstood when the act was passed. The condi? tio under whieb we were not to charge tuition fees never came about, and jet th* legislature io passing the bill ac ceptiog the bequeath provided that we should not ohargs tuition fees 'as pro vided in Mr. Clemson's will.' which was never provided " AS TO THE DISPENSARY. "Will you talk about the dispen? sary ?" "What do you want about it?" . Governor Y, rans io his message says that the law is better administered than ever before.'' ..That isa question for the people to determine. I did my best " "What about the Shell letter?" ''That is a confiiential letter that has b^en made public, and I do not care to say anything about it." "What about Mr. Burns' bill to do away with the constabulary?" "If you do away with the constabu? lary you had had better do away with the Uv. Until the agitation for the repeal of the law has passed and the enemies of the law understand they had better try to get the benefits of it you will be compelled to keep the con? stabulary . " 'Don't you think the enemies of the dispensary would fall in behind the law if tbe constabulary were withdrawn ?" "It would be much easier for the governor to discharge the constables if he found that they were not needed and the grand juries and police did their duty. I think the new governor will have discretion enough to reduce the force if he finds he has no use for it I am sure he is an economical man and just as solicitous for the welfare of the State as anyone." In conclusion Senator Tillman said : "I want you to say that I would be very glad if the legislature would ap? point a c om mitt te to investigate the charges and insinuation that have been made with reference to the dispensary management. Let them then turn on all the light and see what there is io the insinuations that have been made As for myself and may administration I want them to put on all the virrol they can and if they find anything but honesty, purity aod the best of inten? tions I want it shown, and I take it that all who have been connected with the dispensary would like to have .the same kir?d of clearance cf the insinua? tions that have been made." 4'Stumped0' by Stamps. Those Issued by Republic of Cuba "Go" Ia the Mails. WASHINGTON, J:n 14 -The appear] ance of the stamps of the so called Cuban republic in the United States mails has caused much comment herc and was the cause of some discussion at the postoffice department to-day as to whether such stamps could be recog? nized as proper for tho transmission of mai's into the United States, as this government has not recognized Cuba as a free and independent country. This is probably the first c*se of its kind where insurgents have established their own postoffiocs and us(d their own stamps, which were transmitted in the mails to thc United States. At the po8toffice department it wa6 stated that these stamps were good so far as the United States was concerned, as our postal laws required only 5 cent stamps be properly-cancelled and the envelope containing mail matter bear the post? mark of a regular postoffice. These regulations have been complied ffith so far a9 the department knows. Had they not beeu admisible, the letters bearing these stamps would have been saarked with the letter "T" at the re? ceiving office in this country, meaning "tax collect." The department knows nothing about the poctoffice stamped on the envelope, except that if is in Span? ish territory and Spain is in the inter? national postal union. Th'? stamps mi^bt give rise toa deli? cate diplomatic question io which the p<'Stfilfi:e depart meut would take no part, but refer the matter to tho dept ment of state for settlement. L WM I NH, i Fire Insurance Agency ESTABLISHED 1866. Represent, Hmong other Companies : LIVERPOOL & LONDON k GLOBE, NORTH BRITISH ? MERCANTILE HOME, o? New York. UNDERWRITERS* AGENCY, N. Y. LANCASTER INSURANCE CO. Cunha! represented ?75,000,000. Feb.28 We Offer You a Remedy Which Insures SAFETY to LIFE of Both Mother and Child. BOBS CONFINEMENT OF ITS PAIN, HOBROR AM) DANGER, Makes CHILD-BIRTH Easy. Endorsed and recommended by physi? cians, midwives and those who have nsed it. Beware of substitutes and imitations. Sent by express or mail, on receipt of price, Sil.OO per bottle. Book "TO MOTHERS" mailed free, containing Toluntary testimonials. BRADFIELD EE GUL AT OK CO., Atlanta, Ga. SOLD BY ALL DRUGGISTS. LODGE DIRECTORY. Olaremont Lodge, No. 6 J, A. F. M. Meets Thursday rights of each TiontL, on or before the Full Moon. L. S. CARSON, W. ?. fi. C. MOSES, Secretary. BcVah Chtptzr^No 25. R. A.M. Meets on First Tuesday of?each oontli. L S. CARSON, Eigh Prieet. F. M. S?ANxV, Secrcta-y Sj -il Ga mi co-Jc Lodge, No. 17, K. of P. Meets every Monday night at 8 o'clock, except fifth Monday night. H. B. BLOOM, C. CJ B. WALSH, K. of R. & S Sumter Lodge, No. 1077, >?\ of ?. Meets every First and Third Mon? lay nights at 7 o'clock. W. J. DURANT. Die. H. C. MOSES, Rep'r. Fidelity Lodge, No. 25\,?.&L. of E. Meets every Second and Fourth donday nights at 7 o'clock. J. S. HUGHSON, Protector B. J RHAME, Secretary. Sumter Council, No 649, A. L. of H. Meets every Second and Fourth Tuesday nights at 7 o'clock. W. F. RHAME, Com. J. N. CORBETT, Seel Sumter Lodge, No. I, A. 0. U. W. Meets every First and Third Thurs? day nights at 7 o'clock. H. C. MOSES, M W. B. WALSH, Rec. Pocahontas Tribe, No. 16, /. 0. E. M. Meets every Friday's Sleep at the 3th Run. R. 0. PURDY, Sachem. B. C. WALLACE, C. of R. Sumter Council, No. 7 Jr. 0. ?7. A. M. Meets on Second and Fourth Tues? day nights o? each month at 8 o'clock. WM YEADON, Councillor. B C WALLACE, Sec'ty. Holly- Wood Camp, W. of W. Meets every Third Wednesday .right at 8 o'clock. E. W. HURST, Con. Com. R. S. HOOD, Clerk. Carolina Council, No 515, C B. L. Meets every Second and Fourth vVedoesday in Monaghan Block. NEIL O'DONNELL, Pres. il. EBSRHART, Sec. Chucuola Lodge, No. 261. 0. G. C. Meets Second and Fourth Wednes? day nights at 8 o'clock, G. N.. MARSHALL, Com = B C. WALLACE. Secty. Ali of the above societies hold their meetings at tho Masonic Tem? ple, except when otherwise speci? fic d Bicyc'os repa red :ir;d work warranted. A fe." f;>r ?>i!f*. Alto wheels to rt-)' to ?Kperi ;..!<.::] ri i:T2 You wiil find u- Bradbam's y:-,,-.:. JENKINS BKUS. i2-ms--tri ??. y> lAj^n *>bo csu think tttf ?LW?J rai '?l?uVl [Ta?jg to patent? Pro!. , your idea.*: tb??y :.-.av bring yon wealth. V.Tr: .t'OHN VEDDE?iS?Jl?S & Cts.. Patent -ittor ney? Wishit 3ton, D. c.. tor their $J.S0U prize cd' { The Fall season is at its close We have finished our stock-taking and find that we have a great many Short Lots, Single Pieces, Dress Patterns, Ja , &C. We therefore inaugurate our January Sale, and will dispose of them at a threat Sacrifice* A word to the wise is sufficient and when we say these goods must go to make way for our. coming Spring Stock, every one knows that they will go Prfee Will lie iso Object, And the wise will reap the benefit All the Ladies' Cloaks and Capes that are left must go. We will not a carry over a one till next Fall. In our Clothing Store, we are offering special inducements v $22 00 Overcoats at $17 00 $18 00 " $13 00 $15 00 " " ?10 00 $12 50 " " % 8.00 $10 00 " " % 6 50 ? 8 00 " " % 5 00 % 7.00 " ? $ 4.25 $ 5 00 " " $ 3 49 $ 4 00 " $ -2.98 Glen's Underwear. Men's Suits at about half price. Children Suits at Cost. $1.25 Children's Suits at 75 cents, We have a large stock of Men's Red, Grey and Tan un? dershirts and Drawers, all new V goods which we will close out at first New York cost. Remember what we say. These goods must move if price will move them as our Spring Stock will be large, and be in. very early. Yours for business. il Sumter, S. C , LANK All business men wish to begin the New Year with a clean Ledger, and we are prepared to aid them to the extent of selling them ail the s eeded at the closest prices. Give us a call and we can supply your needs. A FULL LINK OF Office Supplies, Ink, Etc. THE I PRICES WE OFFER SELL: THE GOODS. ll i??i?lflT? Liberty^ Street