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ORAISGEBURG TIMES. I OKANOEBURG.S. C, OCTOBER 1,1874. , ~STILE8 B, MELLICHAMP, miioV ?57 W. WHITBIHEAD, Pl'BUBirfcB and Business Manaqek." 5?&. IV? ar? tn no way responsible for tho view* or opinion* of our Correspondents. THE SUN AUD THE TIMES. We regret that our remarks in our last issuo in opposition to the course of the Charleston Sun in discouraging the Independent Republican movement should have been rhisconstrue*d by that paper. That we meant no "unjust im putation," we think. is clearly ,shovai by our expression in the very local.re ferred to, that "we have no doutot the Sur it sincere and friendly to the Con votive cause." We did not mean to insinuate, in the slightest degree, that the editor of the Sun was designingly lending assistance to the Ring, for we have too much confidence in his sincerity, and too ex alted an opinion of his independence, as exhibited in all his editorials; but we simply meant, as one of tho people, to record our honest dissent from his; judgment in ridiculing'and discourag ing this Independent Republican move. incut. That such a course gives com fort to the Ring, is shown conclusively by the eagerness with which the Chamberlain organs quote and utilize every crumb of this nature, which the Sun sees proper to throw but If an honest expression of a differ ence of opinion is to be characterized as a "spirit of intolerance and dicta tion," we think the freedom of speech is somewhat assailed. The Sun is right that the question should be de bated fairly, aud if we were guilty of unfairness it was unintentional on our part, and we confess our error. We think however we now understand each other better, and if, as we are encour aged to believe, the decision of the Convention will bring us together, our present differences are of little concern. We believe our aim is the same, if our plans of accomplishing it are dif ferent. We agree then to differ peace ably cow, in the hope that after the, Convention we may pull all together upon the same line. THE CONSERVATIVE STA1E CONj VENTION. The work tor the Conservative State Convention to perform is one of great interest to the peoplo of the State who are opposed to the Ring, and it is hoped that that body will be composed of our wisest and best men. . This Convention meets on the 8th,and the Independent Republican Convention on the 2nd of October; so that the action of the lat ter will be known in time for consid eration by the former. The important question for debate and consideration by the Conservative Convention will then bo, whether to endorse the Independent Republican nominations, or to put candidates of our own iu the field. We trust that the action of the Convention will be a wise one, and whatever it may bo, we hope the people will acquiesce in it, aud do all they can to crown it with success. The light now before us in clines us to the opinion that the best cour.je would bo to endorse the action of the Independent Republicans^ they nominate Green or any other Repub lican, with as good a record. The foremost consideration in our minds is the breaking up of the Ring, and this being done, we believe good feeling, as well ns good government will bo the result. Our preference of course, is Gen. Kcrshaw, but the ex perience of the past is enough to con vince tho most unobscrving, that tho colored man, however much ho may respect a Conservative, will never vote for him as long as there is a Republi can opposed to him, whether ho res pects that Republican or not. How ? then can a Conservative break into tho twenty odd thousand colored or Re publican majority? The slavery of party will prevent the colored man from voting for a Con sertive, but tho whites should bo intel ligent and frco enough to rise above such petty considerations, when tho common good requires it, and vote sol idly for an honest Republican against the Candidate of tt corrupt King. Wo can only hope to elect candidates of our own when tho colored majority is notitralizcd by immigration. There is a vast difference between the Tomlinson holt, und the present Inde pendent movement. Tomlinson'a con nection with a corrupt government, was a subject of repeated attack; whore uh, even the*, fertile imagination of the Ring press, lias not yet been able to fabricate a single iihui.siWc tnlo ngniust I Judgo Green's honesty. Besides this, I Tomliutfon was surrounded by men who rendered themselves odious to Conservatives by spurning their assis tance, and otherwise; while tho Inde pendent Republicans express a desire to combine with us. In the Inst election many of the Con Conservatives who went to the polls at all, cast their votes for Moscs,but now, if the choice is between Chamberlain and Oreeu, the indications are that they will go almost unanimously for Green. Another light to guide us in our decision is the.1 light which shines from cur enemies camp. The Union Herald very magnanimously advises that if Chamberlain is opposed by Green, tho former will win by 40,000 majority, whereas if he is opposed by Gen. Kershaw ho will hardly win by half that number. Depend upon it, it is safest to take the advice of our enemies by contraries. The true interpretation of it is, that the Ring don't want Us to unite with the independent Republicans. They fear the result of such a combination. We are not as apt to err, if we do what our enemies dont want us to do, as if we do what they want us to do. If we could elect Gen. Kershawwe say can didly let Us nominate him, but, if this is impracticable, let us unite upon the best of the other two candidates. How ever,'the whole matter is with the people, and, while we here record our candid views, wo shall abide by the action of the Convention. - ^ * m m [communicated.] Mr. Editor:?-You have no doubt with myself observed that tho contest thickens, and that the efforts of Cham berlain & Co., aro sometimes even drowned amid the din of falling scaf fold and cheers for Green. So mote it be, even to the end. I do not anti cipate any lack of zeal on the part of the disaffected Republicans. I believe they are bent on seeing it out to the bitter end. Nor need we ?op to carp at what may bo their ultimate purpose. It is enough that they nomiuate an honest man; that is, a man who has neither been convicted nor suspected of theft. But Judge Green is more than this: he is not only 'sans reprocho' but he is emphatically a muu 'sans peur." A consistent Union man through the war, and a consistent .Re publican ever since, ho has been every thing that Radicalism could require, except a thief. Is it indictable mildly to inquire, was it for this he fell? We observe that Melton in his Charleston speech.amid tallow caudles and unruly scantling, says that he ap proached Judge Green with an offer of the nomination, and that Judgo Creen declined on the ground that he could not "put up the necessary amount." The Attorney-General evidently in tended to imply that Judge Green wafa notabove buying the ofliceof governor. He says he afterwards persuaded Mr. Chamberlain to accept. It did not seem to occur to Mr. Melton that his position would be liable to this con struction: that he was the political broker for the Radical Ring wdio ?fter ed this office to Green, aud when he .declined it at the mice, found a cus tomer in Mr. Chamberlain. The query here comes up: Did tho ring pledge itself to make good his purchase to their nominee? To return to my pur pose, I want to ask every body who desires a Governor who will not steal, if they aro willing to sit at home and let Chamberlain walk over the course; and in this query I address all parlies and nil colon*. Do the colored people of this county mean to sit down and pass again un der the beck of party instruction? Is there to bo no move forhonscty in the Republican party in Orangoburg? Arc there no h on es t ones . among than, white or black? Or do they believe in Chamberlain, oi whom their own par ty eay that he procured his nomination by bribery? Do they not suppose that a man, who will allow a Convention to be bought for his use, will, if possi ble, debauch a Legislature, a Court of Justice, aud himself may be liable to the seductive influence of bribery. We do not, of course, say that Mr. Cham berlain will do these things, but wo leave it to any unbiased mind to bco for itself, if these are not logical conclu sions to which we arrive, guided by present Republican showing. And if this be so, arc they prepared to bo again robbed of their hard earned live 1 lihood, without making an effort to avert this evil; without giving n token of approval to their brothers who call to them throughout tho State? If they are men, they must feel, and feeling must sympathize with oiio side or the other. Have tuoy no piilsp to heat reponsive to tho call, of patriotism? Docs their , right hand refuse to movo in the cause of Honesty? Let tho Republicans in mass inecing speak from this County. It is a duty they, cannot shirk. Tho move is portentous and of vital interest. Their fellow citizens. Republican Conservative and Democrat, call for their approval or condemnation, and they must answer. They cannot dodge tho issue and bo men, Ramulku, [communicated.] "Tliey Already Begin to Make Excuse." Mb. Editor;?In your issue of the 17th instant, a communication appears bearing tho above caption, which is an attack upon n discourse/ recently de livered by me, on, "tho mode .of Chris tian Baptism." Aud, inasmuch as said article, not only contains falso aud slanderous, assertions, b*.:t is doubtless in tended to leave the public mind under a wrong impression, I feel con strained to reply. Tho writer, in his first and third paragraphs, lays considerable stress upon tho fact that tho services at An' tioch and San tee churches "were de* ferred," in order Jo give place for my sermon, and wishes us to believe that it was altogether an act of coramenda ble Christian charity?Well let us see: We are very creditably informed that the Rev. Mr. Hartly went to Antioch, on the morning of that day, to engage in religious exorcises, not intending to be nt my church, but was sent for by his Baptist friends. He, being pressed to attend, by those of his own faith and order, aud fearing that non-com pliance would seem to imply an eva sion of the matter, concluded to come up and hear my discourse. _He came then not so much from choice as from necessity. So far as the Smtee services were concerned they consisted only in a prayer-meeting. In his second paragraph we find these words:?"The sermon was well delivered aud reminds one most awful ly, of many expressions and phrases of different writers that many of us perused, over and over again; and it is the knowledge of that fact, that des troyed the belief that he was deliver iug what he had earned by 'hard mid night lamp trimming.'" He here seeks to destroy tho influence of my sermon, in his section, by laboring to make it appear that I am indebted altogether to some other writer for "m&ny expres sions and phrases." Rather poor logic against invincible arguments. Now, in reply to this, I must say, that none but an ignoramus would be guilty of using such language. Whilo lam free to admit that 1 am indebted to other writers for many valuable thoughts, I am hold to say, that my sermon is my own iu the strictest sense of that term, and contains ideas no where found from the pen of any divine; and, if we are not to uso the ideas of other men, why go to colleges and seminaries of learning? nnd why does "A. B." take up his dictionary so often t? learn tho use of words? and why read tho pro ductions of others? My friends insist on the publication of that discourse, affirming, unhesitatingly, that it was the most satisfactory thing of tho kind thoy ever heard or read,, jnud.if it ho published the Baptist "arc urged upon to prucuro copies, read, fttudv, criticise, compare with other productions and handle to their soul's content. If "A. B." has mental acumen, sufficient to lead him out of a shower of rain, he remembers that I quoted from a goodly number of authors, giving their names and generally, the pages where their words could ho found. Now I certainly intended these things to sound famil iarly to some, and if they fad not to him he ougjit, most ccrtninly, to be ashamed to own tho fact, A very excellent Methodist minister who once labored in this county, told me that a certain Baptist divine did, to his certain knowledge, preach one of Dr Bascom's printed serinous, before three Methodist preachers. My in formant further "sayeth," that he, aud I a Rev. Mr. M., did read Dr.Bascom's discourse, after its delivery by a Bap tist, and found it to have been copied verbatim et literatim. Now friend "A. B." I wish to remind you, nnd i those of like persuasion, that Baptist measures will not hold good wiien ap plied to Lutheran divines. Wo are required to ho able to write our own sermons, and thanks to God, we do write thcai. I make no claims to great original ity of thought, but have culled tho most precious jewels to be found on this subject, and, connecting them with my own thoughts, have given them my own moulding; and now it remains to be seen whether ihey aro worth any thing or not. "A. B." in his third paragraph say?, "The whole affair was one of darkness nnd confusion to ten elevenths of tho congregation, as the ground was dread fully rooty." He certainly deserves credit for heiug the author of a now feature, of a "rooty" sort, in mathemat ical nomenclature. It may truthfully he said, that the congregation was about one-fourth Baptist. Thdrcmain ing three fourths being Methodists and Lutherans. These latter have very generally given an expression of their views nnd speak of the sermon as be ing clear, convincing nnd completely in accordance with the dignity of a Christian minister. So fnr os I am in formed, there was only one A. M., iu that congregation and imido this rc* mark:?"It was the best thing I ever heard, and gavo mo more satisfaction than any thing I ever read." How could ho havo said this, had the sermon been so dark, amf had I only "aped" other writers, as "A. B." would havo the public hcliovc? What now is the inevitable! conclusion? Only this:? Tho sermon was "darkness and confu sion" to a few Baptists, who would uot sec. If my discourse was so dark, why did several Baptists preachers become so much agitated ? and why does it requiro two of their preachers, and "A. B.," nil at once, to battle against itt? influence? Since that discourse wan nothing but "darkness nnd confusion to ten elevenths part/' the Baptist brethren ought not to have taken any notice of it. Truly,'none arc so blind ns those who will not see." "A> J?," says/The ground was dreadfully rooty.' Doubtless it was to him, and others; and I have not the least) shadow of a doubt but that Iiis faith was Consider ably wrecked when 1 reached the ter minus of that (to him) "rooty" road. The appropriateness of the caption of "A. B s" article, when applied to us, 1 can not see, but it now applies very nicely to him. He wishes to leave the impression, on the public mind, that I am the offending party, when indeed the Baptist people are on the aggressive side. They have annoyed my Trinity people.with their, prosely tisin for several years, and have suc ceeded in leading some, of the weaker' sort away. At last they became so bold, and were so sanguine of success,* that I was attacked, my faith question cd, a sermon on Baptism' was preached, at fcranteu, bv a Rev/Mir. G., and in* deed, a Baptist parson said to me: **If I could convert you to niy fnich, I would feel it my.duty to do it.", And very responsible men say, that this same miuister did, on one occasion, take up the Methodist and Lutheran churches, compniriiig one to Confede rate cuirency, the other to currency worth very little more, and concluded by saying, "the Baptist church is pure gold. I did not hear this myself, but others say they did; and under cir cumstances of this nature forbcaraifco ceased to be a virtue?Hence, I an nounced that I would, on the first Lord's day in September, preach a scr mon on 'the mode of Christ inn Baptism' not for the sake of controversy, but to give *a reason of my iaith. This ! did charitably and enndidly?and I have no apology to make, but "A.B." be gins, iu advance, to apologize for the contemplated discourses, and charges my members wfth making assertions which necessitate a icply. "A. B." knows this to be a very lame excuse, for tho Rev. Mr. Harlly (it is said) was induced tobe present in order that he might reply. "A. B." seems.to', be quite uneasy, at the thought that I may. not hear that reply, but, for his comfort, I here give notice, that I will bent San tee on the day appointed, together with any of my people who may wish to attend; and I shall theu and there gather ma terial for futuro conflicts. And per haps "A. B." and others, will get all they desire, and more than they at present anticipate, before this matter shall have ended. S.T.HALLMAN. Fox* the LiOgig-latui'c CAPTAIN P. W. AVINGER is respect fully nominated ax a suitable Candidate for the legislature in the coming election, ? MANY VOTERS. JJR. EX OL1VEROS DJIUG GIS T, Again desires to return Inn Grateful Tluiuka to the public for the magnanimous, nnd lib eral Supportgh'cn him. By assiduous eflbrts and faithful performances of the Responsible duties devolving upon him as dispenser of Medicines, he hopes ever to maintain thicr confidence and patronage. nl2-tf FX*A NTATXONS, Gin- Mill Iron. Circu lar saw. etc. in Alken & Orangeburg Counties, S. C. At sale of Assignee in BaiiKruptcy Aiken, South Carolina; By virtue of an prder of the United States District Court for the .Southern District of Coorgia, in Bankruptcy/ will he sold at public outcry, free from liens nnd encum brances of creditors of the Bankrupt, at. the place nnd vithin tho e-ual hours of I Sheriffs sale, in the town of Aiken S. C., on the firstMonday in October next, n certain portion of the 'estate of" Michael O'Dowd, Bankrupt, to-wit: A certain plantation and tract of land, with improvements thereon, situated in the county of Aiken,containing- two thousand acres, more or lets, oh the Jtdisto river and waters of Hungers branclj, and known ns the "Casper SJajcy, .place. To be sold in four parte, to wit: One part containing about 600 ncrea, with Saw Mill, Gins, large dwelling, nnd other hnprovmcnta 'thereon, beginingat C;-dl? rcfti! at the old bridge, and running to tlio mill pond?middle mill. Ono part containing about 650 acres, adjoin ing said houso tract and having the Smith branch for the diher line. One part contain ing about 850 acres, known as the "Kelly Nuke Track," adjoining land of Mr. Poaey and-Mrs. Owen?. Ono part containing about 450 ni res, wood tract, well timbered, adjoining lands of Uriah CorbiuyMr. Posey, Mr. Cadle and Mr. Hol man. i ' Also, a certain other'plantation nnd tract of hind, situntnto in Ornngebnrg county, 8. C, containing 914 acres, more or less/in the fork of Edisto* river on tJood'.and awamp, bounded by land* of'Porter, Winningham, Martin, Allen, Oorbitt and othern, Bamo con veyed to M O'Dowd by J. II. Morgan, and and known as tho "Larey place." To be sold in three parts, to-wit t One part con taining M?? acres, more or less, having the houses thereon and being the widow's tract, and having such shape as appears by plat of H.J. Sully, dated March 10, 1847. One part enntaiiuug 'il7 acres, more or less, ad joining said Widow's tract nnd others, and having n shape as per plat of Urbano Jcl eont, dated November 4, 3850. One part containing 411 ncrea, more or less, adjoining the Mary nnd Allen Porter land and hav ing shape ns per plat of Urbane Jcfcoat, dated December 15, 1848. AIro, one Carver (JO saw Gin, ono Circu lar Saw, and other machinery nnd gearing [not fixtnres], at the Saw Mill. Tcrnxa-Cash, or thirty dnys, as its cquivlvnt. . l'ostttion given first January next. JOHN T. 8IIEWMAKE, Assignee of M. O'Dowd, Bankrupt, i HOW IS THIS r-?EKlGH? nan hi lUDlll 1UUU UllUblilll r HAS JUST BEEN FILLED WITH FRESH, CHEAP and GEN IT I NE GROCERIESr'Sneh aaRaeon, Ham*, Lard, Butter, Hour, Mola*sci>, Syrup, Sugar, Coflee Ac, &. , . And in rear of the Grocery, is the ENTERPEISE SALOON, AVHICH ia kept full of the finest grades of LIQUOR.? SEGAKS Ac, whieh will he sold to suit the purchaser. Call and see for yourself. ,,/FISCHEB. t; Bacon,Sugar Coffee & Flour JUST RECEIVED AND FOR SALE AT EDUCED PRICES FOR CASH, AT THE Cheap Grocery House of J S ALBERGOTTI, Feb. 19 1874 tf Corner Russell Street and Railroad. W, K. CROOK HAVING JUST OPENED A FIRST CLASS jEIY AND LIQUOR 8T?RE, Would call the attention of the public to his well selected Stock of I I lo in ?..?>'? ?? * Bacon, Flour* I^ai*d, Butter, Molasses Su?ar, Coffee, Syrup, Can Goods, LIQUORS &e OPPOSITE BULL, SCO VI LL & PIKE T. B. BO YD HAS JUST RECEIVED A LARGE STOCK OF THE BEST" BOOTS SHOES, GROCERIES &C, Which lie will sell low down ALSO THE LARGEST STOCK SEGARS. AND TOBACCO Ever offered in this market. No humbug, Call and convince yourself. _T. n. BOY ITS % C. D. KORTJOIIN HAS A FULL SUPPLY OF GROCERIES, LIQUORS TOBACCO & .SEttAUS c. D. KORTJOIIX. Ncv 20, c81 ly THE GRANGE STORE IS NOW OPEN FOR THE TRANSACTION OF BUSINESS. IN it will be found a large supply of Groceries, Bagging, Ties &c, At the the lowest Cash Prices, also preparedlo pay the Highest CASH Prices fot RICE, CORN, PEAS, CHICKENS, EGGS, WOOL, WAX, RAGS ard all other couutry Produce. PATRON8 enn receive all information in respect of purchasing supplies through ? Grange, with the prices &ev For further information call at th? THE G RANGE STOJ?E, Opposite where Whittcmore'ii Soap Factory used to ho. Aug. 27-tf Fi874 GRAND OPENING ff?f.? FALL AND WINTER GOODS AT Te KOHN & BRO. DRY GOODS EMPORIUM. DAILY OPENING ENTIRELY NEW PATTERNS AND DESIGNS Dress goods Prints , Shawls Flannels Woolens Jeans etc. Furs Hate Boots, Shoes. Truuks Satchels Baskets Musical Merchandise etc etc etc ? if'. , ?' . ' if,-. .. ' ...... . .? ..; . Y" < Vf ??? ?? ? c ? Youths aiul Gents Clothing & Furnishing Goods, THE DIAMOND SHIRT Fit and Wear guaranteed In Fact our stock will be replete in every Department and sold at Usual Popular Prices. TII3B0D0RB KOHN & BROTBSR. Apr, 0,1871 NEW STORK.