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WliliKLU lOfiETHLR ? IH{. THOMPSON AND SAlJNDKItS LAHOKP.D IIAUMOMOI'SLY *. FIRST ASSISTANT TALKS l?r. Saunders Skillfully <Toss-lvxainines Dr. Thompson, Causing Mini to Admit That Tliey Worked Together Harmoniously in the Interest of Asylum. Following is the otlicial stenographic report of the cross-examination Saturday of J. L. Thompson, M. 1)., first assistant physician, State Hospital for the Insane, by iOieanora 1Y Saunders, M. I)., second assistant physician: Dr. Saunders: Dr. Thompson, I bolievo you said that you and I worked harmoniously? A vv'o 1,0,1 ? ^ ? . i v ??\> v v/1 iiau a word. (J. Bacli lent a helping hand? A. Yea,'ma'am. Q. And you and I have worked more harmoniously together than any other two? A. Yes, ma'am. Q. And you and 1 have worked more closely together than any other two? A. Yes. Q. And spent more time together, naturally, from working in the office? A. Yes, ma'am. Often Kxclwuigod Ideas. Q. Wo have exchanged more ideas? A. Yes, more ideas than any others. Q. And whenever you conceived n new plan for improvement, didn't you give it to me? A. Yes. Q. And didn't 1 always give you mine? A. You always did, cheerful iy. Q. And, after all, ours was a kind of a feeling of co-operation? A. Cortalnly. Q. When 1 began to supercede you as you say, did you object in any way? A. Not at all. I didn't object because, as I stated, I said nothing >>n ttcujuui ui exiseung Q. Didn't you rather think it was helpful for the two of us to work to gether? A. Yes, ma'am, I admit t hat. Q. Did 1 object to the stenographers doing your work? A. Not openly. I never heard of your objecting Q. You liavo no reason to believe hat T objected secretly? A. No. Q. Then you tried as hard to keer up your work as I did mine? A. Yes ma'am. Q. I found no objection to youi ward improvements? A. Dut by youi insisting on her keeping up youi work kept mine underdone. Q. Well, as a superior officer could not you have insisted on hci doing your work? A. Rather than to bring about friction, 1 allowed the thing to go on. Purchase of Supplies. Q. Will you tell me how we bought medical supplies from afar, not from Columbia? Who does the ordering from afar? A. It is made up gonerally here at the oflice and then sent to Dr. Rabcock, as I understand. Q. When we order by catalogue doesn't each ono look over the catalnguo and get what he would like? A. I haven't done it now for a lone time, except for one instance recent 1> I gave the order, hut I have nevei gotten it yet. Q. Well, Dr. Babcoclc did the or dering? A. My objection was that 1 was never consulted. I knew thai Dr. Babcock gave the order, but the things were looked up by some one else than myself. Q. Well, couldn't you have made up your orders from any company that you wanted and wouldn't they have been gotten for you? A. I believe they would; no doubt that they would. Q. Did you know how T did when I wanted anything? A. No, ma'am. Q. You know, I am sure, you remember that Mr. Bunch said that he would rather not hnvo the medical supplies come under his contract system? A. I do not remember that. Ward Improvements. Q. When we had ideas of improveing the wards, you never objected to taking your ward for acute patients fpnm Oia * .. wm?? vno nun \.\> mw ??v?nm : a. i\o. Q. Has thero boon any interdepartmontal changes in which you wero not consulted? A. In my department? Q. In the wholo Institution. Have we ever changed the boll or anything like that, that we have not asked you or Mr. Austin, or both? A. I do not know anything like that. Q. You approve of systematic examination of patients? A. I do. Q. When tlio diet kitchen was organized, didn't your patients get food in proportion to mlno? A. Yes, ma'm, as far as I know they did. Q. You wero willing to adopt the present record system? A. Yes, ma'm. Q. Don't you approve of the card Index system in the general ofllco? A. I do. Q. You don't object to its being put in good condition? A. No, m'am. Q And. you didn't object to my helping the stenographer, did you? A. No ma'm. Q. You knew that I did it? A. I wasn't aware?well, with Miss Davis, i ? V of course. Itenrrangcd Curd Index. Q. Well, you know that 1 not only put the while and colored men. but also the white and colored women? A. Yes, ma'in. Q. And there was no objection raised. A. No. (J. It was not anybody's special work, was It? A. No. Q. And nobody found it inconvenient later on? A. I think that they found it convenient. Q. Nobody objected to my amusement for the patients? A. I have heard no objection. Q. Has it been a sourco of comfort and diversion for them? A. it has been quite a source of comfort to mine, I know. (J. Do you remember when I attempted the improvements in the white male dining room? You didn't object, did you? A. No, except in this way?that is all right, excuse me 1 will take I hat back. Q. You didn't object to my giving you a graduate trained nurse for your dining room? A. No. ('onditlons Improved. Q. And didn't you feel that she has improved conditions there? A. I do. Q. And don't you think the expense was well worth while? A. 1 do. Those things I was not consulted about, but still I approved them. (J. You know why I did that? A J Kor an Improvement. (J. Do you know under whose orders 1 did it?.A. 1 suppose under Dr. Ilabcock. I think in my department it would have been well enough to consult me. I would have raised no objection. Q. Didn't I talk tlnilv with vnn nml ! Mr. A list in about it, how things wore ' going on, and didn't Mr. Austin help? A. Mr. Austin helped, I am sure. l Nearly All Helped, i Q. And didn't all the male nurses and patients fall in and help? A. Not , all, but they helped. Q. But nearly all of them helped? And didn't a white male patient in I your department that had a former navy service do most of tho reorganization? A. Yes, ma'm, he did. Q. Do you remember that when it > was in good working condition I offered to change it for you and you said, "I am very satisfied; let it go ? on as it is?" A. 1 remember something like that. ? Q. So there was no objection to my work? A. No, ma'm. t Q. Do you remember when Dr. Blackburn camo to tho hospital? A. . I remember about the time. laboratory Work. Q. Do you remember that Dr. Blackburn came in and offered to do work for us? A. That is what he was ) there for. Q. Well anyway he offered to do it? A. Yes, ma'm. Q. Dr. Blackburn was able to do all of the work that you asked? A. Ho did all of the work that I asked. Q. When I was doing some labor atory work did you object to my doing sonio for you? A. No, ma'm, I I A 1*1 ? (till lltll, > Q. And in tlio meantime, when Dr. Blackburn did not do tho work and before Dr. Blackburn was ready, . didn't I do somo work for you? A. , Yes, ma'm. . Q. You didn't object? A. No, ma'm. Q. And wasn't this case of grave - importance? A. Yes, ma'm. G). The case of intra-cranial pressure. You know of it and the work . there? A. Yes, ma'm. Q. Do you feel that it was* any r disadvantage to the patient? A. I do t not. Not Less Womanly. Q. And do you feel that I was any loss womanly for doing it? A. I do not. (J. And you know it was a Was< serman test that I did? A. 1 do not ! remember. You did several of the Wasserman tests but I do not remera! her for that particular man. Q. Well, you consented to my doing r it? A. For the patient? I can not re call whether for that particular man ' a Wasserman test was made or not. Q. But didn't I tell you, after 1 completed the white female department, that every time I made a run I would fill out the racks with your 1 patients until Dr. Blackburn was ready. A. You did. Q. May I ask you when you wrote the letter of condemnation that you presented on December 12th? A. It was written on tho morning. Q. Iladn't I this very week done this work for you? A. I do not remember whether it was that week or not. It was not long before that. Q. You do not deny that T have? A. No ma'm. Clave Help Freely. Q. Have I over failed to help you in any way that you askedjne? A. I can not remember a sinelo time. Q. When improvements ware made, was there over any objection to its being extended to the white male department? A. I can not recall, becauso I did not know all of the improvements that wero being made in the white female department. Q. How many patients have you, you say? A. I havo about 4 50 today. Q. How many nurses? A. Including night watches I have 2 8. Q. Havo you any white women nurses in your department doing medical work? A. None. Q. You havo no women in your department doing actual nursing for the sick? A. None. Q. Thore is no white women in your department excepting in the din Inn room? A. No, ma'm. And she is doing dining room work? A. Yes, ma'm. Q. And so the white male patients ordinarily have white male nurses? A. Yes, ma'm. Q. Have you ever asked for supplies that you did not get? A. I am sorry lo say that we did not get patch work. Q. But when you wanted any little supplies you always got it? A. Yes. ma'm. Q. If you call loud enough you usually got what you wanted, did you not? A. Yo3, **1 a way I got it. Q. And you didn't feel that you were in any way required to ask mo for what you wanted, did you? Couldn't you get it as well as I? A. Latterly 1 have appealed to you, bocause I knew you were In charge of the dining room. Q. In the ordering of drugs, could not you have ordered what you wanted? Has there cevr hoe nany objection to your white male patients having any kind of drugs that they needed? A. I don ot recall. I did not know of what was being ordered. Probably some things that were ordored I would need hut would not order it if it wasn't there. In other words, 1 felt that I should have been spoken to in regard to it, through respect and to be familiar with what was gotten. Trained Employes. Q. Whenever there was a new employo in the olliee, did you ever object to my training in the now employe and giving you the use of the old trained employe? A. No. Q. So it was my part to train in the new employes? A. Yes. Q. Didn't you get the full benefit of the training? A. Sometimes. I am not now. Q. Well, is that my fault? A. Weill it looks to me like it is. You insisted on your work being kept up and I can not get mine done. O vnn nune n/ooi?lu'.? * ? T""v ? . c . . \ f 11 v H i \ 1 Mil |> 111 I II 11) |M . Habcock? A. As I stated in ray complaint, 1 did not, knowing tho existing friction in the management. Q. Something was said awhile ago about Miss Davis being sick recently. Do you know what is the matter with her? A. Well, I can not say positively, but 1 heard that it was mumps. Q. Mumps is an infectious disease? A. Yes, ma'ra. Q. Is it quite fair to bring her back to the asylum while she is suffering with it? A. 1 heard of her being on the street for two or three weeks before she came back. (J. Do you know under whose care she was? A. No. Q. You know that I liavo always cared for tho women, the laundry women and all? A. When they were on the premises. Visited Sick Nurses. Q. And you knew in tho white women's department that when they were sick I went out to see them? A. I can not say that you visited them professionally, but I know that you went to see them otherwise. Q. Well, do you know that I didn't havo charge of Miss Davis when she was sick? A. No, I do not know who was her physician. Q. Well, wasn't it to the benefit of the institution that she could work while she was confined to her room? A. It was reported that she was out on the street for a week or ten days before she came back. Q. Will you state who reported that to you? A. I would rather not mention the name. Q. You know that it is so? A. No, I only have her statement. Q. Then it is hearsay? A. Yes, ma'am. Q. And in our work on insanity you knew that we were doing experimental work? A. Yes. Q. And you knew that the most recent treatment for this disease is intra veinous medication? Do you know where it is made? A. Well that part, as I say, has nothing to do with this testimony. I will appeal to the Hard to Clot. Q. T just want to bring out that it is made in CJermany and very hard to got? A. The medicine that she has reference to. Q. I didn't mean to take this advantage) of Dr. Thompson. I wanted to bring out the fact that it is made in Germany and it is very hard to import and when wo get it wo generally get a good supply. Didn't you have tho full privllego if you elected, as well an I? A. I looked at it this way, Dr. Saunders, that you were giving the order, order for that particular medicine; you came to rite, yes; I didn't ask you; if I wished any and how much, and, as I already stated, I asked you to get 12 to 20 doses. Wo spoke about th different sizes, etc. And it is a tiling that will not <4 ?tii t nyuu, n, win Keep. Q. Well, did we come to any conelusion, any definite conclusion, tiio day wo spoke about it? A. I understood it was a decided order for you to pet that amount for mo. l'crhaps a Misunderstand!up. Q. Well, that might havo been a misunderstanding? A. Well, as far as I was concerned, I was posltlvo. You might havo misunderstood it. Q. And when I learned what you wanted and what you understood, didn't I turn it all over to you? A. After that little discussion .between Miss Irwin and myself. Q. Do you know how long hoforo the difficulty that you havo reforrod to that it arrived in Columbia? A. I do not know. I think Dr. Fulmer had askod for it about two days. TO HONOR LINCOLN ? ? l (ilUUM) ItOlvKN R)|( WI.WOKIAL TO l)i:.\l) W Alt l?KKSII>K\T. WILL BE WOHTHIf TOKEN No 1'ormnl Coii'monics Art' Connected W illi tlit? Leg inning t?f \Vt?rk on Structure to Commemorate .Martyred President's Life?Description of W liat is riaiint'tl. Ground was broken at Washington recently the anniv rsary of tho' birth of Abraham Lincoln, for tho Lincoln Memorial, a $2,000,000 structure, the purpose of whoso designers is that it shall stand through time as an example of tho best in architecture and sculpture that this age could produce. There was no formal ceremony connected with the beginning of the work for the reason that thero was not sutllclent time between tho completion of the details of signing tho contracts and tho birthday anniversary of the martyred president to arrange a program of sulllcient excellence to mark tho opening of a work of such magnitude and sentii mental importance. So it was decided to let the ceremonies go over until tho laying of the cornerstone, former President Taft, chairman of the Lincoln memorial commission, did not come to the city to see the work start. The site for the memorial is in Potomac park on an "axis", planned more than a century ago. at one end of which is the capitol, the monument of the government, and at the other, more than a mile to the west, the Washington monument. Still further to the west will he the Lincoln memorial, where it will have a relation with the capitol and the Washington monument that would he Impossible on any other site, and will he closely related also with Arlington cemetery, where those who fought for the Union are buried. It is planned to have, some day, a memorial bridge linking the Lincoln Memorial with Arlington. The design of the memorial is the work of Henry Hacon, a New York architect, approved by the memorial commission. His idea was that the memorial to Lincoln should he composed of four features?a statute of a man, a memorial of his Gettysburg speech, n memorial of his second Inaugural address, and a symbol of the United States which he preserved. Each feature will bo related to the others by means of design and position and each will be so arranged that it will become sin Integral psirt of the whole in order to attain unity and simplicity in the monument. Each feature is meant to impress the IM. U- 1 ' iiuiiuhum 1111 iih greatest torce, mid this it is sought to accomplish by means of isolation, though not to the extent of impairing tho relation of each feature to the others. The most important single object will be the statue of Lincoln, the plan being for a seated figure placed well in the background of the largest chamber. The sculptor has not yet been selected. This chamber will he unoccupied by any other object thai might detract from the effectiveness of the statuo and tho visitors will be alone with it. The smaller halls at each side of tho central chamber each will contain a memorial, ono of the Gettysburg address and tho other of the inaugural address, in bronze letters on monumental tablets, while adjacent low reliefs will relate in allegory Lincoln's qualities as evidenced by those speeches. While these memorials will he seen from any part of tho hall they are Q. Well, the time this unfortunate discussion had come uu. do von know how long it had been here? A. I had told Dr. Fulmer the day before it wan hero. Q. Well, Dr. Fulmer got what ho wanted? A. After fussing about it. Dr. Fulmer didn't fuss; it was through me. Q. Did I? A. I sent the message to you. Miss Irwin was speaking for you. I suppose you had sent a messago by Miss Irwin. Q. Has thero ever been any objection to any doctor in this State or out of this Stato visiting in the hospital? A. Not to my knowledge. Q. Wo nro rather willing to have all citizens admitted; all doctors and all county officials, wo havo always extended to them courtesies? A. Th.lt la t ll /inoJnm ! Q. And has it been extended to doctors outside of tho Stato? A. I think so. When wo find ho is a medical doctor wo tried to extend to him all the courtesies wo could. \Vorko<l Harmoniously. Q. And you feel that you and 1 have worked very harmoniously? A. I think so. Q. And decidedly more so than any other two doctors? A. Decidedly so. Our work has been for tho 24 hours. Q. And you didn't oppose any efforts for the general Improvement? A. Generally I did not; I have raised no objection. to bo partly screened from tho central chamber by means of a row of Ionic columns. Surrounding the walls inclosing these memorials to tho man, la planned a collonnade forming a symbol of tho union, each column representing a state?30 In all -one for each existing at tho time of Lincoln's death. On the walla above tho collonnade supported at Intervals by eagles will bo 4 8 memorial festoons, one for each State now existing. Hy means of terraces tho ground on which tho memorial will stand will bo raised until tho building itselt will bo t.r? feet higher than tho present grade. First a circular terrace 1,000 feet In diameter will bo raised 1 1 foot, above tho present grade and on Its outer edge will be planted four concentric rows of trees leaving In tho center a plateau 73f? foot In diameter greater than tho length of the capitol. In tho center of this plateau surrounded by wide roadway and walks will rise an eminence supporting a stone terraco wall 14 feet high, 2f?f? feet long, and 180 foot wide. On this terraco will stand tho memorial building of whito marbel, Its lines of pure Greek beauty reflected in tho waters of tho lagoon at the foot of tho broad stops. Tho movement for this Lincoln memorial was started in 1 902 by the late Senator Culloin of Illinois, Lincoln's friend, who died only a few weeks ago, just too soon to enable him t o sen tlin frnlHrni n f liio pose. From 1902 until last yoar tho plan was In progress, llnal action having been taken under another bill introduced by Senator Culloin in 1910. the memorial should take were submitted and considered, among them Various suggestions as to the form an arch on Meridian Hill, a memorial at Fort. Stevens, a memorial bridge to connect Potomac park with Arlington cemetery, and a government road to Gettysburg. At times there wae It. is notable that the site finally considerable feeling displayed in the controversy. selected by the commission of fine arts, tho memorial commission and Congress Itself, is the ono first recommended by the park commission under the act of 1902. Many of the objections made at that time to the site have passed with the years. The city had not developed so far in that direction at that time, tho site wat not so easily accessible and the ground was much lower and more swampy. The members of the Lincoln mem orial commission are: William II Tuft, chairman; Joseph C. S. Mack burn, recently appointed to fill the vacancy left by tho death of Sholbj M. Cullum, Joseph G. Cannon, Georg< Peabody Wetmore, Samuel Walkei McCall, Champ Clark, and Thomas S Martin. , ? 11AVK 1I10AT10I) TILT. Words 1'iish Between Governor and i Newspaper Reporter. Saturday's hearing by the asylun investigating committee was market by a colloquy between Governoi Please and Joe Sparks, ono of the best known newspaper men of Co lumbia?of Tho Augusta Chronicleh Columbia bureau and a member o: The Columbia State's staff?who has Ixutn tr * 1? ^ r 1 1 .,x * I. IU|M/1V1U5 VIIU UiCUllII&H Ul lilt commit too. The governor read extracts fronr the record of the committee'H Res sions which, ho said, dhstalnod lib position in the wholo matter. JI< stated that, Unless tills would l>o ir the printed report of tho committee ho wished to send it in a special mea sago to tho legislature, as lie kneu the newspapers would not print it. Mr. Sparks arose and said that, i tho committee would furnish him i copy of tho minutes in question, in would gladly publish tho vital parts Governor Hleaso said, "Yes, nni tho 'vital parts' will all ho agains Governor Bloase," to which Mr Sparks replied: "The governor may point out wha ho considers the vital parts." "When I get to ho news censor foi Tho Columbia State," said the gov ernor, "I won't he on this earth; ] will bo in hell."* "You aro damned right," quicklj replied Mr. Sparks. Chairman Mauldln rapped for or der beforo other remarks had beer exchanged, and tho "exchan^o 01 reparteo" ended. ? VICTIM OP ODD ACCIDKNT. Sumter Overseer Killed While Huilding Wire Fence. J. D. Norrls, an overseer on Mr. J II. Myer's place, several miles west ol Sumter was killed Saturday In a mosl deplorable aclident. He was stretching wire to build a fence when, In sonn unexplainable manner, the flngerj failed to catch In the meshes and the lover flew back and struck him on the omplo, knocking him unconscious, lie died about two hours later without regaining consciousness. Two men wore In tho field when the accident occurred and aid was at once summoned, a doctor arriving on the scene In about twenty minutes, but ho was unable tc rendor any asslsstance. Six Years for Heating Wife. Convicted on a charge of beating bis wlfo to death, Arthur C. Mack wat Thursday sentenced, at Providence, R. I., to six years In prison. '^1 WOULD HELP THE FARMER 1 SMITH WANTS Til KM TO KNOW (fltADKS OK COTTON. ] Senator Wants to Furnish Kaeh Shipping Point With a Sot of Oovern] inent Standard Crades. A Having of $7.^,000,000 a year to tho cotton growers of tho South, It is estimated by Senator K. I). Smith of South Carolina, would result If tho amendment ho proposes to offer to the agricultural appropriation bill is adopted. Ilt? would appropriate about $1,000,000 to furnish each shipping point in tho South a set of government standard grades of cotton, together with a set of samples showing the spinning value of each grade, so that hereafter producers of cotton might not be deceived by buyers and by values arbitrarily fixed by cotton exchanges. Senator Smith received Saturday from the department of agriculture tin; results of its test as to tho difforont grades of cotton standardized by tho government to determino the amount of waste in converting a given number of bales into yarn; to establish tho actual strength of tho yarn f i'/t in nnnli ~ I. I I. ??._ 1 i i win i ui 11 ?ll?, HI llll'lltll nil! fUl" ton and yarn from each grade, and to deterrnlno the cont and result of the 1 bleaching. Only the "full grades" were tested. ''Taking the whole findings," said Senator' Smith, "on an average the difference between tho high grades and tho low grades as now quoted in thfc market is from $10 to $15 a halo. Assuming the average crop at 15,ooo.ooo bales, it is conservative to estimate one-half of the crop at mid- i dling. Tills would give 7,500,000 helow the middling grades, and calculating that the farmers have lost, hecause of the lack of this knowledge an average of $10 a bale, it would mean an annual loss to the cottou farmer of $7 5,000,000." ( Middling fair yarn, tested as to its strength in tho unbleached form, , broke at 09.5 pounds pressure, in Its , bleached form at 66.7 pounds pres^ sure; good middling at Oil.2 in tho un( bleached form, and at 01.5 in the , bleached; at 01.4 and in tho bleached , 02.1 ; good ordinary at 56.4 unbleached and at 00.9 bleached. On the matter of waste there was 7.22 per cent in middle fair; 8.49 ] in good middling; 10.28 in middling; . 12.39 in low middling and 16.47 in ; good ordinary. 3 '? r Senator Huron Dies. Augustus Octavius Bacon, United States senator from Coorgla for nearly nineteen yearH and chairman of tho foreign relations committee since / tho ascendency o( tho Democratic party March 4, 1913, died Saturday 4 in a Washington hospital after an Illness of ten days. ? 1 Woman (Javo Hirth to Five. Flvo children, three boys and two girls, wore born Thursday to Mrs. Bertha Drury, wife of a Spencer County, Ky., farmor. Tho girls died. $6i r for this genuine | Victor-Victrola bearing the \ famous Victor f trademark/ J" < .-? ?a guarantee ; loCquality Come in and hear this instrument play your favorite music. Other style Victor-Victrolas $25 i to $200. Victors $10 to $100, Easy terms, if desired. i 1 Write for information. SIMS BOOK STORE OrunKoburg, S. O. *1 1 >8 I 1 \ $<< / v ,?7