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COLUMBIA. Thursday Morning, April 12, 1866. Southern Productions. A Nashville paper notices the or? ganization of several associations to aid the South in the work of recupe? ration and development of her re? sources, and from tho statements of one of these, located at Washington, we gather some interesting statistics of the productions of the South. According to the cotton estimates made np at the close of the cotton year of 1860-61, the cotton crop of 1860 was 8,656,916 hales, but the cen? sus of that year shows the crop to have been 5,196,544 bales-a differ? ence of 1,540,868 bales. The former figures are the actual receipts at the different cotton ports, while the lat? ter ia made up from the different esti? mates gathered from the census taken. The highest estimates of the crop for the present year, with a favorable sea? son, do not place it beyond 2,500,000 bales, while it, most likely, will fall considerably boiow that amount. In 1860, the tobacco crop amounted to 434,183,561 pounds; sugar, 230, 982hogsheads;cane molasses, 14,963, 966 gallons; sorghum molasses, 6, 698,181 gallons; and rice, 187,167,032 pounds. It is estimated that one fourth of these amounts will ho pro? duced this year. In the crippled condition in which the people of the South find themselves, after a long and exhausting war, they are unable to bring the staple productions upjto a nearer approach to those of 1860 than one-fourth, except in the single article of cotton, to the production of which the best energies of the great body of Southern producers, in? cluding all the new-comers, appear to be devoted. The association referred to, located at Washington city, has put forth some interesting statistics, showing the immense productions of the States named below. It will be observed that some of the Southern States are ^omitted. But as all the Southern 'States were in the same ratio product? ive, these statistics may be taken as a fair criterion, and we reproduce them as a matter of general interest: ALABAMA. Alabama has under cultivation 885,724 acres of land, and pro? duced: Cotton, bales. 989,955 Cora, bushels. 33,226,282 Sweet potatoes, bushels.. 5,439,916 Livestock, value..?43,411,611 Slaughtered animals, va? lue. 10,000,000 "Hatter, pounds. 6,023,478 3. GEORGIA. Georgia has 8,662,758 acres of cul? tivated lands: Cotton, bales.. 702,850 Corn, bushels. 30,776,293 Sweet potatoes, bushels... 6,658,541 I?*e stock, value.$38,372,734 Of land purchased of the Govern? ment by individuals, and under culti? vation, {?had 18,587,762 acres. 3?LGBIDA. Acres cultivated. 654,213 Acres uncultivated, pur - - . chased .. ;. 2,265,625 Cotton, bales. 65,753 C?rn, bushels. 2,835,391 Sweet not?toes, bushels 1,129,759 Live?888?*vd3ue. $5,553,356 > SOUTH CAItOIilNA. Acres cultivated. 4,573,000 Cotton, bales., ... 353,412 Corn, bushels._ 15,065,606 Sweet potatoes, bushels.. 4,175,688 Live stock, value.823,984,462 TEXAS. Acres under cultivation. . 2,650,781 Acres uncultivated. 22,693,247 Cotton, balos. 431,464 Corn, bushels. 16,500,702 Sweet potatoes, bushels.. 1,129,759 live stock, value.$42,825.447 ? OCT SIANA. Acres under cultivation.. 2,707,108 Acres uncultivated. G,291,4t18 Cotton, bales. 777,738 Corn, bushels.. . 16,858,7a3 Sweet potatoes, bushels.. 2,066,981 Live stock, value.$24,546,940 MISSISSIPPI. ^^Aeres under cultivation.. 5,06b,755 Acres uncultivated. 10,773,939 Cotton, bales. 1,202,507 Corn, bushels. 29,037,682 Sweet potatoes, bushels.. 4,563,873 Live stock, value.?41,891,699 ARKANSAS. Acres under cultivation .. 1,983,413 Acres uncultivated. 7,590,393 Cotton, bales. 367,338 Corn, bushels. 17,823,588 Live stock, value.$22,096,977 These productions of eight of tho Southern States show the immense resources of this section. But while, as at the present time, the Southern ^ people are endeavoring to raise all of / *|e staple articles that they can, they Vrald not forget that there will be a nvy demand for the cereals, and ey had better grow less of cot tobacco and more of those tions necessary to sustain life, ye to import them from tlve grain-growing sections of tho coun? try. Thc South must learn this im? portant lesson of self-sustenance. We must discard tlie old system, too much in vogue before the war, of I growing cotton almost exclusively, and depending upon the profita of that article to buy our bread and meat. We must not, as in former years, raise too much cotton and too little of everything else. We hope the severo lessons they have recently learned will have at least this benefi? cial effect. -? ?? ? i Agricultural Periodicals. THE SOUTHERN CULTIVATOR.-This is an old and favorite journal among j the Southern planters and fanners, and contains a very large amount of useful reading matter relative to planting and horticulture. It is pub? lished monthly, at Athens, Ga., by W. N. White, at S2 per annum. THE AMERICAN COTTON PLANTER AND SOIL OF THE SOITH.-This valua? ble publication has also been revived by Dr. Cloud, well known throughout the South as a scientific and practical agriculturist. Tt is published semi? monthly, at Montgomery, Ala., at S3 per annum. -1 ^?> A Scene in the Senate. WThen the vote in the Senate of the United States passing the civil rights bill over the veto was announced, the correspondent of the New York News says a scene of the utmost tumult took place in the galleries. Men roared, shouted, stamped aud clapped their hands; women, black and white, yelled and waved their handker? chiefs, and the negroes who had been sitting in their shirt sleeves waved their jackets and hurrahed. Congre? gated around the east entrance door of the Senate chamber, was a mixed crowd of blacks and whites, men and women, who indulged in the most disgusting and indecent demonstra? tions. Such conduct is disgraceful to the nation. Stephens in Paris. Wo announced yesterday that Ste? phens had reached Paris en route for New York. We clip tho following from John Mitchell's last letter to the New York News: James Stephens has just arrived at Paris. That singular "Head Centre," ? as tho English call him, remained ! within his circle just as long as it j suited him ; when it suited him to attend to his business elsewhere, then the Centre came to the circumference, and went off at a tangent-which, as the Times would be sure to say, no centre but an Irish centre could do. Well, he has done it. While all the police of Ireland, about 15,000 men, were looking for him nil over that ifcland, and while ?2,000 were offered for his apprehension-a standing temptation for his betrayal-he was in the very midst of them all that while, and of the many "Brothers" who knew of his whereabouts-strug? gling men, poor men, ruined men not one would take the Sassauneh bribe to betray him. He goes over at once on a visit to New York. I trust he may do much to heal feuds and restore the strength of the or? ganization in America. The truth is, Ireland has not one single chance with England, eave in revolution, or the immediate terror of revolution imminent. If Lord Grey brought in his motion the other day to abolish the Irish Established Church, it was "Fenianism" that suggested the idea i to him. As I read his speech, I fan ! cied that I saw a Head Centre work I ing a crank, and grinding the liberal ! sentiments out of his lordship. VIRGINIA LEGISLATION RELATIVE TO FREEDMEN.-Joseph Segar, Esq., has written a letter to General Howard in regard to the legislation of the last General Assembly as it affects freed? men. Mr Segur shows conclusively that the Legislature were fully al i vt; to the great chango in the status of the negro resulting from his emanci? pation. "Protection to the personal rights of the negro, and care for his moral welfare, run throughout its en? actments," says Mr. S. He also ex? plains the vagrant law. We have not room for his letter; but to show its good effect, we give General How? ard's answer: Hon. Joseph Segar, Senator Meet fruin j Virginia. DEAR SIR: I am much pleased with ' your candid letter, and believe it is due to the Legislature of Virginia to | place your succinct statements before the public. We ought to cherish every right sentiment and welcome | the passage of 'every just law. Very I respectfully, your obedient servant, O. O. HOWARD, Maj. fJen. We learn from the Neirs, that the detachment of troops lately garrison? ing Winnsboro' have left. There is no garrison there now. A bill to construct an underground railroad through Broadway has pass? ed the New York House of Assembly. Interesting from France. In the summary of the foreign news we published yesterday, refer? ence was made to a speech made by the Emperor in reply to an address made by a deputation from the Corps L?gislatif!". As this speech, from its peculiar expressions, has created con? siderable interest in Europe, and as it is the subject of comments of the great leading newspaper in England (which we Bubjoin,) we give it in full. The Emperor, on receiving the ad? dress, said: The great majority of the Corps Legislatiff have confirmed once more, by voting this address, the policy which has given you fifteen years o? tranquility and prosperity. I thank ! you. Without allowing yourselves to I be carried away by vain theories, j presented in a seductive garb, as alouc i capable of aiding the emancipation I of thought and thc progress of bu inanity, you said to yourselves, "Wc also desire to attain those ends, while regulating our march by the appeas mont of passions and the wants oi society." Is not our motive thc com mon welfare? and what attractioi would your mission have for you 01 my power for me, if separated fron the love of justice? Would you g< through such long and arduous labor: if you were not inspired by true pa triotism? Could T have borne tin weight of government for the las eighteen years, with its incessan anxieties and heavy responsibility before God and before the nation, i I had not felt within me that strengt] which is afforded by the sense of dut; and by the consciousness of having useful mission to carry out? France equally with ourselves, desires prc gress, stability and liberty; but liberty which shall develop intelli gence, generous instincts and th noble exertions of labor -nota libel ty bordering upon license, whie would excite evil passions, destroy a belief, rekindle hatred, and give iris to disorder. We require a libert which shall enlighten, control au discuss the actions of the Cloven ment, but not become an aria to iii dermine and overthrow it. Fiftee years ago, when nominal chief of til State, without effective power, an without support in the Chamber, bi strong in my conscience and the su frages which had elected me, I vei tured to declare that France wool not perish in my hands. I ha^ kept my word. For fifteen yea France has developed and increase? and her Ililli destiny will be aecou plished. After us our sons will coi tinue our work. My guarantee f? this is the assistance of the gre bodies of the State, the devotion the army, the patriotism of all goc citizens, and, lastly, that Divine pr tection which has never failed 01 country. His Majesty's speech was receive with repeated cries of " Vive f Enif rear.'" The London Times, of March "J says : A certain undertone of anxiety, not of melancholy, penetrates t measured cadences of the Flaper Napoleon's reply to the deputati from the Corps Legis*, till". He cou not but remember that no less tin forty-six deputies had signed, ai sixty-five had voted for, an amen ment to the address adopted by t ''great majority" of the Chamb He cannot be ignorant that amni these dissentients are to be fou some of the most enlightened me hers of the French Legislature, a the representatives of aspir?t ic which are gradually possessing t mind of the French people. No c knows better than he that a growi demand for greater independence, increasing patience of the poli which still defers the "crowning the edifice," a progressive reacti against the doctrine that soc equality and material prosperity ? equivalents for political freedom sensible revival of a healthy popn interest in politics, have of late b< developing themselves in Franc?', has been manifested in various wa more or less significant, of whi perhaps, tho most spontaneou though least constitutional-was recent demonstration at the ' >d< Theatre. It was observed at the ti that the Emperor looked "rcser and sullen ;" and though too mi importance may well be attribntec the chance expression ofasovereij countenance, it may \v?-ll be that Emperor elected by universal suffi felt hurt and disappointed by applause which greeted every alms r.> "liberty." At all events, this f ing seems to reveal itself in the sp? before us. W?? cannot but attae suggestive meaning to the pass which doses the imperial spe< "My guarantee for this'1 (the as anco that Franco will accomplish high destiny under tln> empire) the assistance of the great bodie the State, the devotion of th^ ann i/, patriotism of all gooil citizens, i lastly, that Divine protection wi hasnever failed our country." Stm aud almost ominous combinatic les gros bataillons introduced betv the L?gislature, tho ro.t poptdi Providence! Why, an expressioi this kind in a Queen's speech w? startle the whole English nation, perhaps awaken a spirit which been unknown among us for centuries. Even in France it sc to portend ase;?.-.eof insecurity \v it may be imprudent to betray, which it would be the height of policy to affect. Wh?m the Eui}) speaks in nu almost plaintive strain of the burden which he has borne on his own shoulders for the last eight? een years, he forgets that by refusing the assistance of the most enlightened among his subjects, and appealing to the army and the ballot-box, he re? jects the only means whereby that burden might be lightened. Had he endeavored to associate with himself 1 the most eminent men in France j had he striven to found his rule on the moral and intellectual support of the gifted people whom he governs I hail he aimed at being a great states ! man as well as a great ruler, he would I have greatly lessened the weight of j empire which now oppresses him. I Those who prefer to be served by j tools and courti?re rather than \ advised by ministers independent j enough to cross t' eir will occasiou : ally, must not coi plain of this self imposed labor. "Je ne pois pas eire ' partout" was the characteristic remark of the First Napoleon when he heard of some defeat sustained by one ol j his armies, whereas his mistake wa' I that, although nuable to be every where, he persisted in acting as if he j were everywhere,and controlling fron i Paris the plans of generals in Spair. or Germany. It is the weakness o; ! unlimited power, whether it be civil j or military, that it inevitably take! ; too much upon itself, and dwarfs tin virtues which might have been iti I strength. It seems as if the presen j Emperor wen; already conscious o this truth, and discovering sadly tha ! a durable superstructure can only b< j built on durable foundations. MEXICAN AFFAIRS.-The followinj officiai leter, addressed to Genera Alvarez, is communicated by hin i from La Providencia, tinder dute o March 1, 1866, to Minister Homere H i-ELT AMO, February 28, 1806. I have now the pleasure of confirm ing the news of the defeat of the In: perial General Mendez, which I gav in my last, having, last night, recen ing the official despatches. lu a wort the enemy lost all their reserve, the: provisions, baggage pack, clothing and the private correspondence i Mendez, together with his milit?t , chest, in which was some Sl2,00< ! which is now in our hands, and, whi is more, the Hags of the differei corps, and a large number of prisoner Pascuaro was occupied on the fo lowing day. In consequence of these suceesse we have obtained other small ti umphs in Apeisingua and Irambo, s Of which I hasten to communicate 1 you and to our companions in arni (Signed) GREGORIES PERET J ARDON. The following extract from a lett from Paris lias been received in til ci tv: I ~ PARIS, March 10, 1866. j The principal object of these lin is to let you know that 3,200 men lt here a week ago for Vera Cruz, wi the greatest secrecy. Among the was 400 hnzzars of Algiers, Brest ai Cherbourg. The Press has not me tioned anything about it, nor do th care to speak at all about theMexict question, because they have he< warned not to do so. A telegraph despatch from Vieni: published here day before yesterdu informs us thnt an agreement, b been concluded with Maximilian, i the purpose of sending him 2,0 Austrians to fill up the losses of t Austrian contingent in Mexico. T necessary expense will, of course, defrayed by the French Governmei RUMORS FROM WASHINGTON.-. hiding to various sensation rum prevalent in Washington, the Natio\ Republican, the President's orgi pronounces them all unfounded, n ! declares that, if the civil rights 1 be passed through both Houses, t President will execute it faithful Its operation, the Republican thin will result in convincing the peo that the President's objections to I are well-founded, and also effect struction of the party now so wed? to it. --?????? - A despatch from the Secretary tho Treasury has directed that Charleston Chis Works be restored their original corporators. -? ^ ?? At a reception given ut Washi ton by Gen. Grant, on the 6th in a Northern correspondent monti that the capacious drawing-rooms i library were literally pucked w guests. Tho Presi?v ..i was pres? and stood between Gen. Grant Mrs. Grant, relieving them, by vitation of the General, in receiv visitors. One of the company Alex. H. Stephens, quite u lion, rounded by Senators and Represe: tives, most of them radicals, ? ga\o him a cordial greeting, members of the Cabinet and t families, and the Diplomatic Co were generally present. Several ta hers of the Supreme Court, ax large number of military and n officers, were present. Congress! were well represented, and main sp ec table citizens of lesser noten their appearance at the brilliant semblage. It is rumored that tin ilit>s were, if possible, more elega and richly attired that evening thu any reception given in Washing this season. Negro Equality. We make the following extracts from an eloquent^speech delivered by Hon. John L. Dawson, of Pennsyl? vania: Wo have to remember that negro equality does not exist in nature. The African is without a history. He has never shown himself capable of self-government by thc creation of a single independent State possessing the attributes which challenge the respect of others. The past is silent of any negro people who possessed military and civil organization, who cultivated the arts at home, or con? ducted a regular commerce with their neighbors. No African general has marched South of the desert, from the waters of the Nile to the Niger and Senegal, to unite by conquest the scattered territories of barbarous tribes into one great and homogene? ous kingdom. No Moses, Solon, Lycurgus or Alfred, has left them a code of wise ami salutary laws. They have had no builder of cities; they have no representatives in the arts, iu science, or in literature; they have been without even a monument, an alphabet, or a hieroglyphic. A strict regard for justice, abate? ment of extreme pretensions; a stea? dy effort to show the South that the war was not waged out of hatred to her people, Imt only for the pre? servation of the national territory unfractured; a careful regard for her interests in common with those of the other States; these, I believe, are the only means which will ever succeed in obliterating the silent but cor j roiling memories of errors, wrongs [ and sufferings; of effacing the deep j scars of civil bloodshed, aud warming the estranged hearts of our country? men towards a common Government once more, lt is a plain violation tc I force upon the South any modifica j tion of her social condition, any po ! litical status not sanctioned by hei people through their law-making as semblies. The people of the South, whei they have once given in their adhe sion to the Government, are as mucl freemen, as much entitled to proteo tion in the rights of self-government as any portion of the North. The Democracy stand by the Pre sident in his effort to "complete th work of restoration," and congratu Lite the country that there is a firm strong hand upon the helm, and clear eye which looks out upon th darkness, and which no order of an caucus can turn from the polar st? that guides his course. In restoring to order the scattere parts of a Government and peopl returning to peace after a terribl civil war, the principles of justice mm be preserved. With a just sense t right, and with comprehensive viev we must not only forget the past, bv we must, by an equal distribution < the benefits as well as the burdens < Government, make it the interest < all sections to uphold and defend i Such interest is the great regulatin principle, the true bond of Unioi the cohesive power that holds G< ? vernments together, and makes nation truly great and prosperott ! For a time the Southern Staten ms j be denied the privileges of are-unio and of a representation on thia floo j the writ of habeas corpus may be sa j pended ; arbitrary arrests may be r t newed; military commissions coi tinned; and the cry of an unbridle I fanaticism heard over the voice < struggling justice; but so certain as the waters find their level, or tl magnet points to the pole, will th spirit of liberty and independen' which the Almighty blew into 01 nostrils with the breath of life, co dm . our principles to final triump THE DI'TY UPON PAPER AND BOOK A despatch to the Philadelphia Ledg says: Some interesting facts have be recently brought to light before tl Ways and Means Committee in i gard to the effect of the present du upon paper and books on the nev i>aper and book-making busine; Persons engaged in this busin< throughout the country have alm< unanimously petitioned Congress j have the tax on paper reduced a the duty on imported books increase The Committee, with a view to i I spond understandingly in the matt have taken a large amount of tei inony, and it has been satisfactor ! shown that our publishers, bysendi I stereotype plates to England, bnyi their paper, and having the pre work done there, can, after payi ! the duty of importation? save fifi , per ce?f. in the cost of the books. ! book that costs, there, twenty-th , cents to print, in this country cam bo gotten up for less than nfty-ei| cents. As an illustration of the dir operation of the present law, it n bc stated that a well-known printei New York, who, last year, prin 150,000 cojiies of Webster's spell book, this year has had the w? taken away from him, because it < be done so much cheaper in Engla - - -???? Thc Richmond Times says: J some time p:ust this city has b rife with wild rumors with regard a large number of failures among most extensive merchants, and a a searching investigation, we ass our readers that the repot ' 3 are alu entirely untrue. Not one ho mentioned has yet suspended b ness, and so far as we have been ; to ascertain, every one of them fully able to meet their liabilities the last dollar. Iiooal Iteras. Mortgages and Convey aneen of Real Es? tate for sale at this office. CASH.-Our terms for .subscription, ad? vertising and job work are cash. We hope aU parties will bear tin.-, in mind. THE BURNING OK COLUMBIA.- An inter? esting account ot the "Sack and Destruc? tion of the City of Columbi:-.. S. C.," has just been issued, in pamphlet form, from the Phmtfx steam power press. Orders can be lilied to any extent. BOOK AND JOB PRINTING.-The Pluenis office is now fully supplied with cards, colored and white paper, colored ink, wood type, etc., and is now in condition to exe? cute all manner of book and job printing in the shortest possible time. Give us a call. A H o MK COMPANION.-The proprietor of the Columbia Phoenix will, on''the 18th in? stant, commence thc regular publication of the Weekly Gleaner-a mammoth paper-containing forty-eight columns of reading matter, embracing tales, anec? dotes, poetry, editorials, correspondence, telegrams and new? matter generally. The Gleaner is published for the accom? modation of those persons residing in re? mote sections, accessible by mail only once a week, and at the same time to provide an agreeable pastime for readers of all classes. The gist of the reading matter contained in thc Daily and TYi-Weekly PhienLt, will bc published in its columns. The paper is furnished to subscribers at $4 per annum; tl for three months. For? ward your subscriptions at once. COLUMBIA, H. C., April ll, 18fifi. To the EdUors of the Daily Phtenix. Sins: Under thc head of "local items," of this date, was a paragraph relative to outrages committed Ly United Staten troops, and the perpetrators, two ?er? geants, one of which (an orderly) was. upon the representation of the Mayor of the city of Columbia, reduced to the ranks in the presence of the squadron. I have the honor to state, in reply, that the above statement is false, in every respect, and " any gentleman, in giving such statements, would act more on the principle of man? hood were they to give tue name or corps ot the above mentioned ser gear ta. And, believing that I am one of the individuals referred to, allow mo, through your agen? cy, to refute the charge. 1st Bergt. Bil? low and myself were reduced to the ranks last evening, but it was upon our own re? quest, and not through the influence of the Mayor of the city. I am, sir, your obedi? ent servant, A. GUITON, Company H, 8th U. S. Cavalry. [The information was derived from such a source as to entitle it to credit. We are always willing, whenever a false impres? sion is created, to publish a correction from the parties implicated.-LOCAL.] The concert of Mrs. Murray and the Messrs. Dmck was ?mite a success. The hall was fall, and the audience well pleased. The piano solos of Mr. J. H. Denek were tastefully and brilliantly executed, espe? cially the beautiful "Fantasie from Govia," which, at the call of the audience, was fol? lowed by variation* on a popular air. Of Mrs. Murray, our favorite during "war times," we need only say that she waa herself. Her pieces were rendered with that exquisite feeling and richness so pe? culiarly her own. Her "Ernani, rescue me," was decidedly the gem of the evening, as shown by the prolonged plaudits of the audience, who insisted on her return to the stage. The Spanish waltz, "Il Baccio," was also beautifully executed. Mr. Joseph Denck's performances on the either were pleasing. Although it is not capable of giving expression to the works of the great masters, his skill in handling an instrument so little known rn this coun? try is deserving of much commendation. Altogether, the concert was a great treat, and we are glad to hear that it is to be re? peated, by request, thia evening. We prophesy the same (if not better) success for the fair cantatrice and the gentlemen performers, and the same feeling of satis? faction on the part of those who may be fortunate enough to at tend. We are pleased to stale that Messrs. H. D. Corbett and D. B. Clayton will assist at the entertainment. Their abilities as musicians and vocalists arc well known. NEW ADVERTISEMENTS. -Attention is call? ed to the following advertisements, which arc published this morning for the first time: Vocal and Instrumental Concert. E. E. Jackson- Drugs, Medicines, ?c. A. C. Da' is-Smoking Tobacco. A. R. Phillips- Furniture, Piano, 4c. W. Shiver-Storo, Ac, to Rent. W. A E. Shiver-Horses, Wagons, Ac Andrew Crawford-Flour, Bacon, Ac. Edward B. Calhoun-Adm'rs Notice. Abl>eville-Nomination Gen. Johnston. Sanders' Hotel, Uniosrville. Extra Meeting of Acacia Lodge. D. B. DeSau?8ure-Commissioner's Sale. Jos. Gruber-Water Notice. E. J. Huntt-Town Lots for Sale. The editor of the Wheeling (Va.) Register ia puzzled entirely by a cu? rious piece of mechanism covered with cabalistic signs, which has re? cently fallen into his hands. _ "A friend, yesterday, presented us with well, we are unable to say what. The more we look at the curiosity the more we are puzzled. It is perfectly round, and presents rather a neat appearance. On one side of it we see a large bird with a shield planted on its breast, encircled with the words .United States of America. Half Dol.' On the other side we see a figure somewhat resembling the man in the moon, labelled 'liberty,' hold? ing a small stick or cane surmounted with a cap, encircled with thirteen stars and '1861.' Some say it ia money, but as we have been unable to tear it, and cannot discover that it bas been stuck together with muci? lage, we are inclined to discredit the assertion. However, it is a nice pocket-piece, and we will preserve it as a relic."