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* p2 i}ER aNNIIM^ Bik uiUi the woudon of caoh ^AMlll|^nf/ "" IN ADVANCE | .1 /nmilg nail ^talitinl JScnupapr?flniglti tg tlje 3rts, ftiffltis, Xitttihm, d-fturnlinn, Sgriralturr, 3nltrnal Smgrouiintts, /orrigit oni) Sinrstit JStmi, nnir % JUirktls. I VOLUME V. LANCASTER, C. H? SOUTH CAROLINA. WEDNESDAY HORNING, JULY 16, 1856 NUMBER 22. "a i i i i i JMIIlflll. ivi I I'CIK ?0y T II CAROLINA AN I) M ASSAC1IL S ETTS. otln ' . o3? ? a ri SI'KtCU lion to c tho HON. J. J. FVANS, OF S. C, IIn reply to Mr. Sumner, of Massachusetts, |',cl delivered in tlie Sen.Vc of the United s Slates, June '23, I860. 1 ^ Mr. Kvuns said : Mr. President, the ^ subjects which have grown out of tins un- e ^ Uuppy Kansas all'.iir arc of very grave im- fir| jiort. I would willingly, very willingly, 0r,#. avoid, if it w.ro pw?Ml?.e, mingling in tlr.s JK(> ?onltoversy. I linvo no taste lor .t. It is j. against thu habits of tho last thirty years .. ?I my life; for within that poind, bo lar ' ()i)l as I remember, 1 have on no oicasioti ^jnl found it necessary to make anything like 'n a toieiisic dibit. Hut, *;r, the Senator g,^ horn Massaclillsetts, not now in Irs rent, *i c >n | Mr. Sumner I has not left me any c'i< ice. (|i(M lie has thought proper, ill a mo?t rutldes^ j" maimer, to assail my colleague. This re .pures, at my hands, something in reply. ( )u making this reply, I do ml purpose to glj(1 indulge iti*aiiy unkind language, much |j(J| less to violate any parliauiunlnry law. j f he subjects v. hicll 1 propose to disnts* ^ ^ are the legitimate inferences growing out of that w jiieh he has introduced, inly, his speech. So far as I ntn capable of understanding it ? and 1 certainly have no do ' . . It* site to misrepresent either that Senator or ( anvlMhlv else?the groat obi?H L ..ft lie Se>n i i "i i i 7 purl atjrs speech hi'cuivu to lie threefold: Fust, to excite llu) people, the Five So l people?the '* Irce people," as lu' culled ilum? in K <iih;is, to teUhiou and resist uhce to tin* law. That ivomcj to Ik* Iim { th>l ?.l.j i-t. Uiii second object ?? , to hi ,m i Hint vituperate my respected friend u(- v and eel league, [Mr. liutlcr;] to li ap a I ' j 'I19 t'pprol riinii he could on the slaie ^ v Mates generally, and tie Slate of S 11th | "^ i' iru'.ina in particular. To litis, sir, v.as , ^ added tlie further object of magnify inj?, as f.tr as in him lay, I lie present condition, and ibrinur, and particularly lite re vol u tioiutrv, services ? I the State of Massacltu- (> (|i sett". Now, Mr, np< n each of these sub jceis I have something to say?very little, ^ j indeed, in relation to Kama*. Sir, my heart b!cb I* at the unhappy condition ct 1 that country. Tito efforts whnli have p ( j been made, fioui the lime of the passage of the Kansas bill, to defeat its operation by means which I believe oiigma iil in , f this Hull, have been incessant ami with- j out any remission. Mr. I'lesiJeut, I am (| " j an old l)iau ; and the last thirty years of ( ^ my life, the hu>iue-s of it has 1 ?ci to ai- .. rivo dispassionately Hi j'isl onclnsions. I am too old to he excited by parly con w ^ llicts. I have therefore endeavored to , 1 . | . , . VOll turn my attention to tins subject as dis H|i(>| puvlaiately as I, could; and the delibcr ale judgment to wliicli I have come is, \ that ii' the people of Kansas?the pr<slavery and anli slavery party ? had l?ceit 1 s (^ suffered to act for tliemseise*, the uiihap ^ l?v condition in which that couuli v is now 1 1 n 1 .... hear i.liiinol u?.nbl * - l I, - m r ,.?vV CHumU. li.lt,' NV)1 air, tlio pokiiciaus?lies. who lue by ex- j CitC>IK III WiiUlll IIUl let til'.* llliill.T rest. * 1 have no Upul.t you will n nn in'.'i r, sir, w tl.nl l?ct??re the lvao*as b.ll *10 pi.sx'tl,' hundred* ?f thousands of pamphlets were , ,| * distributed through this Llnl, lor tlui pur- i-v p<m?' of excising the public prejudice g gain."it it. h wu* branded hi a fraud, as w a swindle, ns a broach of faith on the part (..isl of ihe South. Those pamphlets weie ju(ll echoed back l<y the rcmonalralter* of tliioe (j thousand New Kngfniid Clergymen, and ,|u,r la) men without number. (ja|| Mr. President, I bog to n*k what wna gjw. this plighted faith which it is charged that { WIt the Soulil violated in ll.o Kansas hill I [Jpj, What iriukj It was simply the repeal of the Mh*ouri restriction?1 do not call ttj,c it compromise, because it psrtakes of wan nothing of the nature of a compact or to c< compromise. Well, sir, what was that mn){ Missouri restriction ? I do not propose to nian enlor into, t\ diacufsiot; of it. I desire jnt0 simply to say that it was nil*act of Con 0"f tl grcs?. When Missouri came lu re < ?J-'" III 1 iftg ndini**ion as ii State, objection wan r lAa?l?r thnl nhe w as a stave State. M s- bo 'i rouri bad a right, I presume, to deckle ritor ifiis mutter for herself. bbo wan nettled ft,0 inanity from Virginia and other nlaveliold- il,i? ing Status. Slavery existed tliero cxten- (|?. J afcolv, nud had existed there before tlie 0fth purchase of Louisiana, of which it wan a unJ4 part. Well, sir, for 'lie sake of peace, frbm after there had been milch discussion on j,.tt the subject, th?' South, headed by Mr. H Wh J.ownde*, agreed that Missouri should be |y ui udinilted. and that after that time no ,,^<5 .1 ,?..? - uuuHi exist DoyonJ a certain liw. ' M Ah 1 before, this was a mere act of &| Congress. The North gave nothing fur tboti: it. They lm?l no right to object to the ?j|| I a.^nisaiuii of Missouri as a hhm holding WHfi Stole. It was usurpation in them to pre* Jcsir lend thAt they had a right to exclude her. ^rUar If, then, the North had no right to object, they he pa\e nothing fur this plighted f.iilb of immt the #??tb, as it is called, ft wa? simply *lav? an act of Congress, subject to repeal when- mere eter Congress thought proper to repeal coon it. . ' '*.? .ic art If, sir, theje was any inducement on in th the pat I ot the South to assent to (hit Mis- Ihtr ouri restriction, ir was the belief, which great * y nau a right to expect, that the slavu tcri; igitaliou should cease. They, had sur- tiva ilered a portion of their territory, that Ten vhicli they had as good a title as any sas. er portion of this Union, and the}' had this ght to expect that the slavery ngita- pres i would cease. If anybody lias a right will omplnin of this breach of faith, it is fron South. The slavery agitation has fear n continued from 1820 up to tbis titbit** hon re has beyn no remission in it. If it no s partially died out ou some occasions, will lirst opportunity which presented it- que; has been seized to revive it with still still ster virulence. and lr. President, I do not propose to go not lur on ibis subject. It has been so man n discussc I that it would be an un? but essary wa te of tiic time of th? Senate wha me to a temj t to discuss it again; sir,' h s agitation seems t<> have arisen use of the question of slavery; and ou po^e t 1 have soinethi ig t??say, though but tolei f little. Sir, tlio South?.bo slave Wli tes?are not propagandists; they are can lent v ith their institutions as they an; tv y Y are content with that form of civili- here on which exists among't them; they hav< re not ?o extend it to New England nior to any other portion of the United T les, who do not choose to receive it. why , sir, whilst they are wiUiug to do this, low* u is nothing in their nature, and there to tl othing in their institutions, which in- spin L-s them to submit tamely to any ag- was ssious on their rights. If slavery he a choc it is ours, and we are willing to bear to d Nci.lurXcw England nor any other said ion of the country comes "in for any to < licipaiiou <>f it. If, as has been said, Wei an incubus on the advance of civili- ulat on?if it is an incubus on the energies use ny purple?that incubus rests on our whit pie, and does not paralyze any other that ion. If we are willing to bear it, whv I can ul<t others desire lu relieve us of that this illicit we Jo not complain} not Jut it is said, "You arc not content to M |> \ottr institutions in yqur own section. so in you desire to extend litem to Kansas." >1 iv< ell, sir, if we desire to extend litem to nam isa?, hate wo not a right to do so ? as tl s not Kansas belong in part to tiro fur t isiana purchnoof lJi.l wo not pay it is. ally?I do not say we paid more?but peril jiaid our full sltaro of tin: price of that t here ntry. If gentlemen wish to know why and particularly desire to have Kansas, 1 in a toil them. If the slavery agitation prosi ceased, and if, after the Missouri con) or s< nisc, those who live in the free States the ild have been content to allow things so fj emaiii as they wore, there would never part e bcQn any movement to change that sb'j er<tanding iK'tween the two sections doul iie country. Hut, sir, no sooner had any r succeeded in placing the Missouri re- proa in'ii on our tciuemcnt ol that norili* llio loin country, than both Huuscn of vigli grcs* were Hooded with petitions to inon lisli hi ivory in the 1 >?-ti ict of Coltitn- turc to abolish what was railed the clave him e between the Slates, nnd, more than elotl , to al>o!i*h it in the forts ami j.nni i/.e I i an I every ollwr place over which t! at grc&s hail any jurisdiction. Did loot low* r the Senator from Massachusetts [ Mr. prev souj say, that it was the intention of we I ?.niy to abolish slavery in the Territo only in the Dslrict of Columbia, and every uial, ic else wln;rc they ha*l power? If if wi ' wiil abolish it whir.ver they have that power, they will get the power when* who they can. The same spirit which alon Id exercise the power will gel the Iv ei er whenever it can. Let any man This his eye on the map of this immense this iain, extending from the Atlantic to I I'aoilic ocean, and he will see a space inqu e, outside of the existing State*, ahun opin tly large to make States enough to all c the gentlemen what they desire.? mon cncver you hare sixty States in this rial, an, thi'ee fourths of them can alter the of tl: ititulion and abolish slavery every l*e it re. You have thirty one now ; you mon t only twenty-nine. Wheio are thsy ricai >mo froin ? Kansas ami Nebraska can out e six ; New Mexico will make half as of tl y ; California may ho well divided arc i three States; and there is no doubt mon U? ftli'l ! - ? *1.-* -^?41 '' - ?w nny, mnl Willi- llie I lie next forty or fifty year* it will nssoi iccotnplished?that tho Indians will I kn driven out, and those largo ter- tliia iet, extending froin the Atlantic to in ti I'aciflc, will be divided into Slntea of out < yiiioti. Was it strange, then, that live South should lie Hlar|0|Mi Al thi* state wliit nigs? I did not hu't^jpi V"t 1 have an e uslood that, in 1850,,'i?pfcnator here linn i one <>f the free Statin mud their ?>b- state was In build a wall around slavery? alttvi ill of freemen, to render slave proper- to r< ^productive, and to force its cmanoi- Afrii ?n. v i?it? r. I hith-r. 44 Cordon," w as tlio word, the r. Evans. Well, sir, Kansas, al- Ikjui gh it is but ono State when added, sImvi I hi good against three more. And hliip it strange, then, that the South should Afru e possession of Kansas merely aa a conn ante*f There is no pretense that and can occupy any other portion of that foun tase region. Everybody knows that sixty ry will not do for a farming country r^t )y. It is of no value in a graining knot try ; it is of no value in the mochnn- ca, l< La; it can only bo used to advantage the i u cultivation of tho great staples.? M e is no preleuse that any one of the inlet -t iples th at const it tile the gtoat ?na- ni< nl il of our foreign commerce, can l>e culled anywhere within tlie limits of these itories outside of the Territory ofKan1 ought, Mr. l'residcnt, to say, in connection, that, although I have ex-1 sed our fears as to the future, yet, i such gentlemen as 1 see around mo i the free Stales, I have nothing to I know that the honorable Senator i Connecticut [Mr. Foster] would do iucli act of foul injustice as to interfere i slavery in the States. A'hI if the >tion was to-morrow, whether the Con ition should be altered, and this great crying wrong perpetrated, he would do it; and 1 can say the same of iy others whom I see here today; can I forget, or can anybody forget, t is the progress c f this thing ? Why, was not Daniel Webster refused the of Fancuil liall lu cause it was sup d ho had expressed some degree of alien for the institution of slavery ? at guarantee have I?what guarantee any body have, that, in twenty or thir cars from this time, those who are t now will not be elbowed out, as they 3 been in sonic of the States, by some c illiberal persons than themselves? hese, Mr. President, t;re the reasons we desire Kansas; but it was not al :d. The very instant it was opened ic slave population, that instant there ng tin a contrivance-?a niachim ry set in operation of which 1 do not ise to speak ? the object of which w as cleat this act of Congress, and, as was by tlie Senator from Massachusetts, lovote llys 'territory to freedom.? II, sir, if they can devote it to free popion in tliu ordinary way, without the of this new scheme of immigration ol .It he spake?and which I suppose is which has been in operation?if they get possession of it without resort to nOVV Sl-ll. >!>< nl inii..:.? : ? ? , . i-i.iuuii, we canobject ; I, for. one, would not object. Ir. 1'resilient, ] now purpose to submit o remarks on this lotted subject of iry. Sir, I am not frightened by a ic. A wise legislator looks to things lie)' are; and lit) who would legislate his great Republic, must look to it as A state of things exists here w hich, laps, exists nowhere else; but it is , and you must deal with it as a wise honest man should. I do not mean uy reinniks which I shall make to re ah Massachusetts, or any other State fctio-j of the world, on the subject of slave trade. It is true that, at least ir as South Carolina is concerned, we icipatcd very little in it. Some few s were fitted out in Charleston, hut 1 l>l if a unlive of the Stale ever had participation in it. Hut, sir, I reicli nobody for it. At that period in history of the world, it was. thought t. Thero was the concurrent tcstiv of the civilized world that, to capthe wild savage of Africa, and reduce to a state of subjection, to feed and ie him, and civilize him, and christian inn was no wrong! I say, therefore, I reproach no man for it. We fob ?1 only the popular sentiment wl.ich ailed in the world. llut, sir, I think invo a right to comp'ain, and it is the complaint on this subject, 1 have to .? , that if others have gone before us, [ have been outstripped in finding out this system was wrong, those persons have been thus fortunate will let us e until we ourselves become sufficientiiiiglitci.cd to concur in their opinion. , we think, we have the right to ask ; is.all we do ask. propose to enter into no ethnological iry about tbe unity of the rac s. My ion, iny own judgment is, that we arc ?ne?probably descended from a coinancestor; but thai is very immnte We find men different <U0 tbe face le caith?as different as they would f they w ere not descended from a coini ancestor; but in relation to the Af?, no man in this Iiou.se, and no man of it, can say that tlie.re is any corner lis earth, upon which the African race as well oft, as well provided for, with j u of ih?- cleiuchts of happiness, thai, in . slavo part of these In; ted States. 1 j rt it without the fear of contradiction. | ow not from whence it has come ; but 1 know, that the Africans were slaves to days of the l'haraohs; that nine of ten of them are slaves in their naland; and that in no country of i o .. . ..... mrwinry receiver! upon I piality with the white race. In con-1 lion of the fact which I have juat d, that nine out of ten of them are i?h in their own country, I leg leave -for to an incident in Park'* travel* in ;a. In the year, I7l>6, after having nl the interior, when he returned to coast of Senegal, finding no vetae! id for Europe, he look parage in a flop, bound for Charleston. In that there were one hundred apd sinjy *ana. Having been a year in their try, he understood their language, ww able to converse w ith them. lie d that, of the whole one hundred and , only four had been Lorn free. The were slaves. If any man dewirea to v what ia the atate of slavery in AfriLt him raad l'ark, and Lander, and recent book of Captain Canot. any of tho negruea at the South are ligent, although llicy have not niucli Uu cullu!?'.wilaiuly rcry Jilile that is derived from books. They are an improving people?improving in intelligence and in morals. 1 have no doubt that the time will come when Goi will work out his own problem in relation to Africa.? (Jarlylo says, I think with some truth, that all the great events in the history of man have generally been produced by a single individual, or by but very few; 1 that the great reformation iit religion was produced by Luther; that Cromwell and his associates in Lnglaud produced a wondrous change in the notions of mankind, in relation to civil and religions liberty ; that a new impetus was giver, to ibis ball by the American Revolution, of which Washington was the chosen instrument of Providence to accomplish. Sir, for aught 1 know, it may be that, in the providence ol God, in his own proper time, a deliverance will he worked out for this race. At present they are not fit for it, but they are going on in improvement, both mentally and morally. Ofoncthing I am sure?when that time nriives, some more til instrument will he used than those who have now thrust themselves into this business, prematurely, and in a manner wholly uncalled for. 1 doubt very much whether parson lieccher will he a chosen instrument in the bands of God for the purpose of ntfooting this or, any other great and beneficial change in the affairs of mankind. Sir, as I said before, I am not frighten ed by names. I am not alarmed by the fear that 1 shall be held up in some fixture fourth of July speech, or some college oration, or in the columns of s< me filthy newspaper, as tho advocate of slavery.? .That has no terrors for me. I stand here i to legislate for this country as it is. If the institution of slavery be an evil, to whom is it an evil ? Is it to the master ? | What injurious effect does it produce upon him I Is he not as much of a gentle man, is he not as n oral a man, is he rot ; s pious and religious a man, is he not as distinguished for all the cardinal virtues as the people of any country on the face of the earth ? If he is not, 1 have not found out the fact. It it he an evil to the African, where, 1 ask, is hid.coudition better? ! > it in Africa I Let l'ark and the travelers" in that Pnttllf I f i 1* ? ...I3..V-I iin: ijncMU'ii. i- l.ss condition belter in Ilayl: or Jamaica ? Let those who tlc;-ire correct information on that point, go to some fopptain of truth, and they will Ijnd it. I would rce??mnn nd every man w ho embarks in this controversy with the hope of bettering the condition of tiic African, to read the letter of Governor Wood, of Ohio. On his way to his consulate in South America, he slopped at Jamaica. Let anv man read what he says, and compare it with what ho may see at the South?pot what ho has read in Mrs. Stone's novel?and he will find the truth of what I assert, that the condition of the African is bc'ter in onr Souther') States than in any of those countries in which he has been emancipated. I ask, further, is bis condition better in the Last ? Is a free negro in New Kng land as well oil as a slave who has a good master ? and nine out of ten, 1 believe 1 might say ninety-nine out of a hundred, are good masters. IfCt th$ facts speak for themselves. Look at the census. Although cmancipatios has been going on, and fugitives have hcen living to the free States, the census shows that, in the slave States, the slave population has increased infinitely beyond the increase of ^hct free people of,color, with all these appendages, in the free States. If you go to the records of pauperism and poverty, what do you tiiid I You tiiid that he is a being infinitely more degraded than the white man. !p 13J>0, in the State of Massachusetts, with a population of over 000,000 white inhabitants, there are 389 convicts in Iter penitentiaries, ami 47 black convicts out of a negro population of 0,000. In Connecticut, there were 140 white and 30 black convicts in her penitentiary, lu New York, yqu bud the same dispropor Tli* rculi is, that in Massachusetts there is 1 wltito convict out of a.very '2.522 whites, an 1 1 Mack convict for every '262? negroes. In New York, there is 1 white convict in 2,050, and 1 black convict in 142. In Virginia, there is 1 white convict in 5,570, and 1 black convict in 11 v000. 1 do not suppose that these figures present exactly a correct statement in rp latum to Virginia, IW I ^oppose the slaves there are not punished in such a way as to exhibit in prison returns the liili result of crime. 1 presume they are punished, as in South Carolina, iu some summary way of which no s|?ecial tecord is kept; hut, so far as Massachusetts and New Yoik are concerned, tha (juestion is set* tli .1 beyond nil CMlfOfWIJ. Tim rapid iucrejts* of population in tl a ordiuar* way U !o<>k??l{u|icn l>y alt writers tot on** of the strongest evitieucva of ibo bodily comfort at least, of the subjects of it. Crime and pauperism are tin- fruit*, not of coiiiiort ami iii?1i|i<.'Im1?ucc, but of want ami destitution. 1 be fact, that in Massachusetts there is 1 a Lite convict out of 2,f?2'2, and 1.black convict out of 202 exhibits a state of thing*, allowingl>eyond all question that in those regions of boasted freedom the black man i* in a sad con* dition. I am sorry, air, that necessity compels mo to speak of tie absent Sonato? from t Massachusetts. I do not intend to use his i own language, or to l>c unmindful of what 1 is due to myself, hut I have to speak of t his facts. What could he the object of s the wondrous tirade which we heard from ] him about freedom ? Does ho mean that, I in tire state of things w hich exists in this i country, he thinks it desirable to turn \ loose three millions of Africans ! If he t does, ho moans what few people besides c him o f?few consh'e ate people?would < suppose to he practicable. The Senator t fr ail Massachusetts, [Mr. Wilson,] who is t present, has define d his position. Iledis- < claims any right to interfere with slavery ; < in the States. It is a fair inference, as I i t have already rcmaiked, that though he is f now re trained by the constitution, he v would do it if he had the power; but in that I may do him injustice. The oilier j Senator from Massachusetts [Mr. Sumner] ; t has never, I believe, defined his position | ' on this point. lie has never said?in fact ! i the contrary is to be inferred?that the ; i Constitution affords us any guarantee. I i suppose then, (toborrow a manufacturer's i term.) that he belongs to t!iat?fr/y>c of the < anti-slavery party who deny that the Con- I slilution has guarantied slavery, and who v contend that Congress has the power to ' abolish it, and is in duty bound to oxer- i eise the power as soon as it can. This is i the doctrine of(?arrison, and of some pa- s pers which ate sent to tne every day? i t among the rest, one called the Radical U , Abolitionist. If such he the Senatoi's j s views, I c am only say that they are utter- 11 Iv impracticable. I shall not waste t,he > time of the Senate in discussing such ajt scheme. If it is to le done on payment of the value of the slave-, $1,000,000 0C0 t will not pay for them. If they are to he 1 1 emancipated and sent to Africa, that sum i will not pay the expense of their tran?por- < filiuu and maintenance there until they i are al/e to maintain themselves. If iho ' I _ I . onjeci or Hint party bo l<> < mancipulc j 1 them, and leave them in the States, ic re 1 quires no sagacity to see what will he the i result. t Si between tho white man, North and i I South, and the Mark man, there is a drop i an impassible gulf.. It is as manifest at I the North as at tlie South. In 1847, I i traveled through New England stud New | Votk. I was ten days in Boston and three i weeks in New York. During all that 1 time I never saw a negro at work. It is m well known there that a white man will i not work wi'li hiir. This with some poo- I pie is the objection to allowing slaves to \ go to Kansas. They say tho-white man t will not work with t he negro. 11 there he t any man who in his senses believes that 5, the negro's condition would be bettered I by emancipation now, 1'have never met I him, unless he be one of those whom I I have seen and heard on this floor. I need I not say, what is obvious to everybody s who knows anything about the matter, t that his condition would be infinitely 1 worse. t It'theso declamations about freedom, 1 and tbese commiserations for the poor tie- t | gro s condition, liavo any meaning?if \ I they arc to result in any thing, I should 5 suppose they would result in something J to better his condition. Now, will his c condition he Lettered ? No man, I think, t will rise hero in his plavc and say that it 1 will. I Hut another fi uitful suhj< ct of dcclama- c lion?the Senator from Massachusetts spoke largely about it?is, that we send e little children tg the miction block?tlint 11 wo part husband and wife. I can inform I him that this act w hi ji ho thus justly de- c nounees is as much dfthupciated in the v Stale of South Carolina an in Massacliu- f setts. Sir, I live in n slave country ; 1 t! 1 live in a district in which the slave popu- t lotion exceeds the whit- by two thirds; s and yet I affirm here, that I lia\e never 1 known an instance in which a separation I lias Iwenmade between husband aud wife, c or, as 1 have heard, mother and her chil- 1 droit. If gentlemen will look at the cen- I sua, they will see that by far the greater c part of the slaveholders own from ono to I ten slaves. When you come, on the par f tition of estates, to divide that uiimhei be- a tween families, thc/e must ucc*\s*aii!y be I some separation ; but as to putting them e on the block, and selling lliem to anybo- t dy w ho may choose to buy, I never beard I of it; I never knew it; and I do not be- 1 s lieva llio popular sentiment in any part c of South Carolina would tc-lerato i*. foi a 1 moment. t In this connection I.iuay say thai the, man Lcgree, who has been held up as the r iuod?l of a slaveholder, is 00 more a rep- 1; rcseutalive of the slaveholders of South d Carolina, than a Massachusetts man, by fi the usiue of Knapp, is of the moral* of >. j Massachusetts. Knnpp was the uephew a of an aged and respectable old gentleman r who had one* boon n.niaii'lwr of tho lipase h of R;prtoontutive?, who wp* eighty, years ti of ago, and in the ordinary course of ua- i lure could have lived but a few year*.? h Uia nephew waa ao greyly lo put hie a bauds on hia properly (hat he hired an t< assassin lo enter hia chamber at midnight a aud murder the old tnau iu hw sleep. I quoto tu?l that aa a model of Massachu- e m its morality, but it as fairly represents Massachusetts morality ^aa this fell ow I.e- I y gree doea the slaveholder* of the South. i aiu sorry to any?but it is necessary that I should any, thnt whatever opinion closing Mr. Tiffany's letter, has been reivc<). The facts of the case of Mr. Alrt Suraner are substantially correct as iled in Mr.Tiffany's note. In nconvertion with Mr. Tiffany, when I had tho easure of seeing him here February last, uditig to the fanatical and political ravgs of the Abolitionists at Washington, expressed the opinion that they were tuated by political and sectional jcalsy.nnd not by motives of philanthropy, d I incidentally mentioned that tho ininces of the separation of families, 60 .en rhetorically described, was genciy bv the agency of foreigners, who ;re devoid of -hat sympathy which ists between the native-born slaveIder and the slave. In illustration n:y position, I stated to Mr. Tiffany nt the most inhuman and revolting case the separation of families (recently and iquently alluded to by the lion.Charks inner, "to separate husband and wife, d to sell ljtlle children at the auction,n-k"') that had ever conic under my ?b'vation in the course of an experience of wards of half a century, was one in licit Mr. Albeit Sumner, the brother of 3 lion. Chailes Sumner, was chief a-, nt. (Applause, and laughter in the gallo* 3-J r, Mr. S'.uart. Mr. President, 1 insist that e Cha<r shall preserve ?ndec. If it is cessary to vicar the galleries, I hope it II be effected for once, so that people iv know what belongs to the propries of the Senate. If-tho Senate is lli be rnd into a theater, let us know it. H it Id be glad at tliis time if the Chair iuld exercise the authority which bcigs to him to clear that part of the galies from which the noise emanated. Mr. Weller. That would certainly he ry unfair. There could not he more in two or three persons eiKr?i<r??l in i northern man may entertain at home iu ipon the subject of slavery, I have never co mown any qualms of conscience to dis be urb him wl en he came to the South, and sti i icc< cd d to this kind of property,either by ( an purchase, inheritance, or marriage. I p'1 lave never known any man who came j nil unotig us, no matter where lie came from, ; in) vho, if he removed into a free State, did I 1 lot put the value of his slaves in his pock- 1 ?C :t, and go otf with a quiet and peaceable ou tonscience. I do not blame anybody for hu his. If what I have stated of the condi *tt ion of those people when free be true, ho vft ivould have done them on injustice by rt'l Muancipnling tbcni. If he had carried wi hem to New Kngland or New York, the <*x itrong probability is that the penitentiary ho vould have been their doom. of It is very easy to be human at other tin icople's expense. I have known two or of liree fellows who went fioin South Caro- c''ina to free Stales, aud turned Abolition- ^ll sts. 1 knew an exceedingly clever young i,n nan, as 1 supposed him to be, who re- bh noved to Mississippi, and there fold his sci ugroes at $1,000 round. He went to UP thin, and the next I heard of him he was wl iguring there in an aholitio.i meeting, *h< rery denunciatory of the slaveholdets.? tc lliere was another man who went from I ny State, w ho was a Baptist preacher, ric vho had a large number of negroes, lie ,old tbvin, and carried offliis money ; and l'" he next thing we heard of him was an utile niailbag full ol abolition pamphlets, Wl ent by him to his friends in South Caro- nif ina. But, sir, he had the money for his t!Cl laves in his pocket, and he never disgorg- lut d it.. wo There is an extraordinary caseconnec- xvc ed with this subject which it is right that 'or [ should state. It has some peculiar sig- 'cr iiiitcance. .In the year 183'J, a Mr. Ball, | alio was a lice pla.itcr on Cooper river VC1 it the mouth of which the city of Char- thi est on is built, took jiassago with his wife, "'s ivho was a New Kngland woman, and, as 1 have always understood, an exceedingly :lcver lady. It was the misfortune of this <'v rcntlciiiaii and his wife, that the steam- 18 ioat in which they took passage, the 1'ul- bh i-U;, whs lost oH the coast of North Caro- Pe ina; she broke in two on the high sea ; "" uid, with the exception of three or four 8e a rsons, rII jwrifhed who were on loard, uid among the rest this gentleman and -or ?;h wife. lie left a larcij estate. Who a" iv as to get it ? Mr. it all had mndb a will, be n which lie made a large provision for be lis wife. The question w as, did she survive liini ? If she died fiist, it w as a laps- B'< il legacy; if she survived him but for a wi nomeiit, the legacy was bets, and would ;o to her hciis. The case of which I am speaking is SUI mown as the case of Veil vs. Ball. Mr. th? VII, who I believe lived in New York, tbi iad married a lady who was perhaps the ister of Mrs. Ball, or, at any rate, one of toi lie heirs, lie and the otliei heirs of Mrs. bui L$all filed a bill in the court of equity for nl< he purpose of having the benefit of this ogacy. The chancellor decided, on the by ivideiice of a Miss Lamar, of (Jcorgia, a efd ery extraordinary young woman of unu Sti ual fortitude and presence of nrnd, that "i drs. Ball survived, and therefore these ?b laimants, as her hvirs-al-law, were cult- ?b led to the legacy. That settled the right; tbi uid the property, consisting of over one mi lundred slaves, was ordered by the clian- Ai ellor.to he sold by the master, W Another gentleman, who was equally 1,11 mtitled with Mr. 1VII, attunded the sale; w? ind, as I learn by some papers which I wi lave here?for I w as not there on the day 1t I i suie?among the negroes to be 6old tin va* a negro man named Kianis, with bin 'Al aniily, consisting uf a wjfe and eightchil- l)r| Ireti. It in the uniform order and direcion of the com t of equity, that negroes tin hall be sc! 1 in families. TJiis negro man iad been the favorite body servant of Mr. dii tall. This other gentleman held fame a<* ouversation wiih him on the day of sale, coi n that conversation it was understood that tin ie promised tbe negro that, if he would onsent to he sold separate and apart from lis wife and children, he would provide or and take care of hiiu. The woman nd the ciiiidren were put u < end bid fur p*' iy Mr. Lowndes, a brother-in-law ofdov- St ruor Aiken, *>f the House oi Ileprescnta- tJ* IVOH lw\lir*l?? 1."? " r ? nit-ui, uoi ior iiiniM-ir, n i iut fur his overseer. Under the inipies- n* ion that this contra:t was lo he carried ha >ut in fairnesa and iu good spirit, the ne- v* nan Frank was put up, ami bought in by ha lie agent of.tbie other gentleman. 'v Evviylxxiy suppofed ibat this.wu all sto ight and fair ; but, to the utter amaze cir nent of the people, within two or three thr lay* afterwaida, this innn Frank waa of- Lo tfred for sale to au) laxly wlro would buy be* iim. There was indignation expressed to bout it which this gentleman co.ild not da usiat. J jo then sold him to Mr. Lpwunes a 1 ut still must have fifty dollars for his <Ys ToiU il? pocketed Ins lifty dollars and pr> is share of the proceed* of that sale, and rot e returned home. Now, if any one de irea to kuow who that man was, the letsi which I sond lo the Stcretary's desk, th? nd ask to have road, will disclose. Th Mr.Clay, W'jerliy a northern or south- mo rn man) p?i Mr. Evans. You will learn thr.t^ whan tin on hear the letter read. M? The Secretary read, a< follows: Ion On,iuiestox, June 10, 18f>0. tnr My Lear Sir:. Yours of tiue 4lli instant, I ,u U,W tuibanco, ami I should hate very much sco the whole gallery cleared because are happened to be two or tbreed'uorr!v poisons in the ben ate Chamber. It rarely you will find so large an asscm ge as this that docs not contain some rsons who do not know how to bebavo .niselvcs. If the applause bad been :i ncral thing, it w ould be proper to clear i galleries; but it was confined to two ll?rce persons?not more than that? d 1 hope, therefore, that no notice will' taken of the matter, and that there will no further disturbance in the Senate. The Presiding officer, (Mr. ljigjcr in c chair.) The Secretary trill proceed., th the reading of thu letter. The Secretary continued, as fofiows : UjonMr. Tiffany's expressing much i prise, I told him that 1 w as present on a occasion; that if at any time he should ink proper to mention the fact, he might.. I ? " >? me hs ms nutuonty. Being referred , I, will,.in conformity with your request, rnish you with the details as far as my. ?uiory serves me. In the winter of 44, Mr. Albert Sumner became entitled marriage to a distributive share of tho ,ate of Mr. and Mrs. S. Ball, of this ute, by a decree of the court of equity the case of Bull and ljall. M a sale the negroes, in puriuiancc of tho order tho court, I. was present, and remarked at Mr. Sumner was very active in the , inagemeut ar.d arrangement of the sale, nong the negroes was a man servant mnrknble for his fidelity to his former vater, who by. tba officer of the cpuit is advertised to be sold, as i'r customary th bis family. Our friend, Mr. Charles Lowndes, proceeded to the sale with e intention of purchasing tho aforesaid nily, ( or his overseer,) but to the su:-. ise and indignation of Mr. Lowndes and i other bystanders, it was discovered at the father had been withdrawn and d separately from his family, by tho eelion of Mr. Sumner, under promise, was understood, of great indulgence in usideration of his past services. Under ?se circumstances he was purchased by, -. Sumner or liis agent at a moderate e. But in a very short time afteiirds be was offered for sale by Mr. Sum- . r to more than one gentleman at a ice ujuc!! oeyomi that at which Mr. miner had purchased liiin. But theso lit lemon having refused to aid and abet (peculation so monstrous, and Mr. Sunir having ascertained that Mr. Lowndes d puiciiased the fair, i It, offered tlie strut at a price beyond tteit at winch ho d purchased him. Mr. Lowndes finalacceded, having the satisfaction of rering the father to his family. It is a,, cuinstanco worthy of being mentioned > w, iu replying to Mr. Sjumner, Mr. wndex, with the feelings which fill the mm of a slaveholder who feels himself be the protector and beocfaator-of bis ,ves, took the occasion of expressing, in eU*r, (which he submitted to Colonel* die aud myself,) his dan nociation of tUv ococding in terms that would bavo aused a southern gentlemanThe above, as far as 017 memory serves 1 is a true and unvarnished account of 1 ca?e to which Mr. Tiffany alluded ? a circumstances are impressed upon my rooty from tho fact of my having been rticularly acquainted with them at tho ie, having been in eonsullatio.i with. ; ixiwniitts, aud as events which do vio ee to one's feelings are calculated to ike an impression. 1 will call upon Mr. L?wndo for a stat^