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Debaters argue i Rv B fHtlin Pntn?h Homosexuality was the controversial subject of a debate at Russell House Thursday night, which was as emotionally charged as the issue itself. The debate, sponsored by the Southern Students Activists Network, was argued on thf? rPsnlntinn that "Thoro clinnlfl Ko ?? ? - vr.v? v a aiVA V OI1VU1U IiV7 ^ discrimination based on sexual ^ preference." The arguments were not limited to discrimination, however, and ranged from the advocation of conservative views of the traditional nuclear family to liberal views of socialism being the answer to the gay rights question. THE DEBATE was argued by Chelsie Snellgrove and Bill Martin, who favored non-discrimination of homosexuals, and the Rpv Rrian niuer anrl hie utifa Clontfo tVir. m+mmm tn/& MtiVk IUO TV1&V XJAVOVWCI V/A. HiC !| ^ Maranatha Christian Center. The Divers debated against homosexuality and the rights of homosexuals. Martin substituted for the Rev. Fred r Williams because of a mix-up. Stuart f Bagwell, president of SSAN, said yesterday that he was told Williams was ill while < Williams was told the debate had been j cancelled. Bagwell said he did not know how \ it happened. ( Snellgrove presented the affirmative side of the argument first. He argued that the j end of gay oppression would require the r 0 destruction of the United States' capitalist j society. He stressed the wishes of the c people. ( "What kind of society do we wish to l create? Not what does God want," he said. THE CAPITALIST ruling class, ac- 1 cording to Snellgrove, sponsors "oppressive s reactionary laws" and "promotes reac- ' tionary religious beliefs." He espoused a J socialist society where gays would be able to live their lifestyle freely. r The Rev. Diver's argument was based on b ji n Mon.-Fri. 7:00am Sat 6 Sun-11:00am*12:00 H Across from * THE BIG BIRD Towers g Downstairs Plaza II Save this coupon for t I 304 OFF Ion anything! 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"God created man for fellowship with lim; however, from the beginning man has ejected the lordship of God," Diver said, ^or this reason, God gave them over to legraded passions so they're willing to exchange natural functions for that which is innaturai," he said. "Thus we see that the root of lomosexuality is a rejection of God," he laid. "For man to suppress this knowledge Af 41 1i! *- ' ui vwu; is me ummaie aci 01 nypocrisy and >erversity." HE ALSO said that "homosexuals nanifest in their personalities a concealed tut intense hatred of God and man and the NIC y 1:00am gj 1217 VI midnight B Collepe St * 1 M 4455 | ' (nextto' v NATU ? Burger King) I! * ! X J Soups, Salad?, { Ip jj (including 21 juices, thing!) 81 | teas, hot cider and hase H I with purchase of i ;; i nice-n-n, ! ILssssssssss^ arestauran 1928 Rose ~~ I Tor , I Miller $ JV m Hs I 65 I Iues ick. I M I I $1. 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"It's one thing to talk about religion, to talk about God, to talk about forces outside of nature; it's another thing to talk about nature itself," he said. E I RAL 799-3471 ? j ,4 ' ... ^1 Mi,'! Sandwiches ^ I ROI ERAGE J I S.G, whole milk, herbal !] | j | carbonated bevs) ! | j ^alad or sandwich ! i ?,T,TL j |". a:*. wamammmmmmmmmmtmmmmam waammmmmmmum LITE 11 INTERNATI t & lounge II K] wood Drive B day P* ll+A D /tfl K 75 II au $l0? jj GE1 jpy Hr.l2-8pm I reenTV II ... Ml Limite ilmys I , 59 I * ys J :hed Peanuts exual riqhts "ALL OF THESE (sexual) abilities that have developed over thousands of years are a refutation of what is natural for the human body," Martin said. Martin did agree with Diver on one point. He said that homosexuality is indeed a rebellion ? one against society. "I believe that homosexuality is a form of rebellion against the kind of society we have that rips people apart. I think this society is very much in need of being rebelled agaiast," he said. Martin rejected the traditional view of religion and its place in society. "Ultimately, religion says human beings in a society cannot create their own moral order. Condescending saviors have to come down and create it for us. Frankly, we haven't seen God lately. We've seen the selfappointed messengers of God," he said. "WHEN WE TALK about hatred of God, 1 don't know, because we don't know God, we don't talk to God. We do see the impressions laid down on us every day by reactionary Christian people," he said. Martin said he wasn't arguing in favor of amorality. "As far as undermining the family, maybe you ougwt to take a look at some of the things undermining the family. Just look at society. If that's what you want to fight, fight the society. Don't blame every umig 011 gay people. "The question is," he said, "do you support state terrorists' oppression and discrimination against gays? If you do, then join in with the reactionary Christians, and then we homosexual rebels will fight against you and we won't stop fighting." Eleatta Diver reiterated some of her husband's arguments, such as the homosexual being at war with God and the idea of the family. "GOD HAS ordained the family ot husband and wife, the family unit. He created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve," she said. Sm "Debate," page 4 ~m?w -~m?? 1 advertising 777-4249 j HHHHHHMBMHHMHir VOTE I ? SMITH FOR I PRESIDENT I March 1. | //&xuri?/er-& HAIR DESIGN STUDIO ! DNALLY AND NATIONALLY KNOWN SVVv |j INTO Spring 1983 I Hair Fashions! 8 d Time Hair Cut S Stvline / o For Guys ? Dolls 15.00 w/Coilege LD. 787-6607 3 8 20 Rosewood Drive CLOSED MON. Offer Expires 4/1 5/1983 J