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Dietze. ConceI Ed. note: Don Hult recently in terviewed Paul Dietzel, director of athletics and head football coach, about some of the problems involv. ing the recruiting of black athletes. Here's what Dietzel had to say: Hull: By your background, Coach Dietzel, I know that you are not from the South. What was the situatian in your own area as you were growing up as to Negro athletes? Dietzel: I was born and raised in Mansfield, Ohio, and we had Negro athletes on the team I played on. They went to our school and I don't believe anything was ever thought about it one way or an other. We had no racial problems in our town that I can remember. However, in the last few years, I have been told that there were a few "incidents." Hult: As a coach, had you ever previously recruited a Negro? Dietzel: When I became head coach at West Point, I asked the Athletic B o a r d at the Military Academy what their feeling was toward our recruiting a Negro and they said that they were completely in accord with the idea. Therefore, we began recruiting several Negro athletes for the Academy. As you know, however, when you are look ing for a topnotch athlete with better than 1100 on the college boards you do cut down the field considerably. The average Plebe at West Point, while I was coaching there, had an average college board score of 1325. In order to get into the Academy, you have to have rough ly at least 1100 on the boards in order to make it at the Academy. Although we recruited several fine Negro athletes, the first one that we were able to get at the Academy was Gary Steele, a fine split end from Levittown, Pa. Gary was the first Negro athlete ever to play football for West Point. He was an outstanding boy with truly outstanding parents and will always be a credit to any organiza tion that he is associated with. It will always be a privilege to con sider him and his parents as my personal friends. Hult: What about the trustees here at South Carolina when you Netters PC De By DIANE CLAYPOOLE Asst. Sports Editor Bobby Heald made his comeback against The Citadel after losing his first home match in four years to the Blue Hose of Presbyterian College. Heald dlefeated Tee Hlooper of The Citadel, 6-1, 6-0. Jay Schlosser lost to the Bull Dog singles player, Randy Hef fron, in a three set match, 6-8, 7-5, 8-6. Schlosser had his opplonent at triple match point three times be fore dlropping the match. Gamecock netters captured the third, fourth and fi fth s i n g 1 e s matches. HI e n r y Ragle dlefeatedl Phil Gaillard 8-6, 6-3, and Doc Mal 10y defeated Citadel cadet Rhett Wolfe 6-4, 6-4. In the number five singles position, Stuart Reynoldr (defeated Charles Hardaway in a three-set match, 7-5, 5-7, 6.2. Bill Austin in the number six THIS PICTURE HAS A MESSAGE: "Watch out!" 20th Century Fo, presents 100 RIFLES JIM RAQUEL BROWN WELCH BURT REYNOLDS fERNANDOtAMAS DAN 0HERIIHY HANS GU0EGASh ''MARVINSCHVRTl -;'TMGRItS COLOR NOW - 1:10. 2 :10.- 5:10 - 7:10 - 9:10 MIRACLE I Give came here? Dietzel: The trustees assured rme that we could recruit any athlete who was qualified regardless of race, color or creed. Hult: Have you had any pressures or requests not to recruit Negro ath letes by any members of the faculty or administrative staff? Dietzel: Absolutely none. On the contrary, we have been highly en couraged to recruit Negro athletes by the administration, the faculty and the student body. Iult: It is a recognized fact that we have, now signed a Negro football player and a Negro basketball player. Do you feel that these Negro athletes will encounter any difficulties when they matriculate at South Carolina? Dietzel: In addition to these two, we are also recruiting another Ne gro basketball player and we are very hard after two more outstand ing Negro athletes from the North. We lost one fine Negro tackle from Virginia, who chose Duke over South Carolina. The r e a s o n he chose Duke instead of South Caro lina was in part due to some advice he received from his high school coach, a Duke graduate. Every student who enters a uni. v e r s i t y encounters problems re gardless of who he is or what he is. A Negro athlete will undoubted ly encounter a different kind of problem from some students, but he has been encountering certain kinds of problems all of his life. An Italian boy gets used to the fact that someone will kiddingly call him a "spaghetti eater" and he has probably b e e n kiddingly re ferred to as a "dago"-perhaps it wasn't even kiddingly. They have names for the Polish people, the Jewish people, and even Germans, like myself. In some areas, Catholics are re ferred to as "mackerel snappers." There is this to be said, too, Don, that people who like you will gen erally kid you. It is a wonderful thing to be able to keep a sense of humor; however, it is even more wonderful to be aware of other people's feelings. No one I know likes to be classed with every other person of his race or sect. For someone to say about Down 71s Heal singles position lost his match to Howard Hopkins, 2-6, 6-4, 6-4. In the doubles dlivision the team of H-eald and Schlosser defeatedl Hooper and Heffron, 7-5, 6-4. In the number two doubles the USC twosome of Hlerrick and Reynolds beat The Citadel team of Gaillardl and Wolfe 8-6, 6-4. Austin and Ragle took an easy victory over the doubles team of Hlardaway and Hopkins 6-3, 6-1. The team p)layedl on the clay ~ourts at TIhe Citadel to get in practice for the ACC tournament which will be p)layedl on clay courts. The Gamecock netters are now 15 wins and 2 losses for the season. Carolina defeatedl Presbyterian C7ollege, the onc-e heralded tennis leadlers of the South, 6-3, luesdlay. Presbyterian's George A m a y a walked awvay with a victory that stunned - tennis fans when he de doe,2 Ser * ONE IIOUR OR ONE (BiY REQUEST) * SPECIAIST IN CiLAN AND TRIMS * 24-HOUR11 COIN-OP LA * SIIIRITS LIUNDERED) (ON IIANGERS Al * GOL.D SEAl. DRY CI.E WE INVITE YOU TO (AOMI SUI:NEF ( s His Recru an individual, "Well, he's just like all the rest of t h o s e blankety blanks," is about as fair as saying all the Eskimos are cold-blooded. Each person should be treated and considered as an individual and not lumped in with all the other people who resemble him from the standpoint of skin c o 1 o r, back ground or place of origin. Hult: How will the other athletes accept the Negro athletes that we have signed? Dietzel: Since they are young adults with minds of their own, I expect them to accept them as they would any other athlete from a <different part of our c o u n t r y. Everyone has to make some adjust ments and compensations in life unless he wants to live on a desert island by himself. Hult: Do you anticipate that these Negro athletes will have problems from the rest of the student body? Dietzel: In every society, Don, just as on the USC campus, there is a complete range of individuals. We have some people who are ex tremely biased on one end of the scale as well as the other end. We have p e o p I e who are vehement about any issue that you would like to bring up. We also have a great majority of people who do not have any pre conceived ideas and who will ac cept an issue on face value. It is my frank opinion that the huge bulk of students will accept any student on his own merits and not lump him together with any group. It has been the experience of other people who have Negro athletes on their squads that some of the ma jor problems come from people of their own race. Hult: What do you mean by that? Dietzel: One of my best friends is a coach at another major institu tion who is probably two or three years ahead of us as far as inte gration is concerned but is in much the same geographic location as far as customs and mores. He inter views every boy and the parents when he recruits them just as I do. In these interviews, he discusses all the problems that they will face as freshmen on the campus and openly discusses things that will Bulldog .d First feated the Gamecock All America, Bobb)y Heald. It was Hleald's first defeat of the season, in 15 matches. Amaya, a sop)homore from Bogo ta, Colombia, South America, upset the A t I a n t i c Coast Conference singles champion 6-1, 6-4. Heald seemedl to have trouble p)lacing his shots. Jim Amaya, a junior playing right behind his kid brother in the number two singles position, (he feated USC's Jay Schlosser, 6-1, G-4. Lewis Weisser broke the family winning streak by defeating Juan Amaya in the number six singles position, 6-0, 6-1. Hlenr-y Ragle dlefeatedl Blue Hose singh-s player G r a i g McKenzie, after dr-opping the first set, 6-8, 0.1, 6-3. D oc Malloy in the number four position defeated PC's Ben Gregg, 6.1, 6-0. DAY SERViIE ING; LEATHERS, SUEDES UNDRY NO EXTrRA (CHARGE) ANING HY AND PIC:K UP YOUJR REnIT (:ARD 0 4 OpinI iting become "hang-ups" while they ar in school. I do the same thing b( cause I like to know the parent of the boy that I am dealing witt The athletes that I coach wil become the best friends that I hav anyhow, so I like to know ther This coach that I mentioned ha quite a few outstanding Negro atf letes on his squad. He told me tha hardly a single clay goes by tha these fine athletes do not receiv several calls on the phone fror highly militant groups from dil ferent parts of the country tryinj to give him a d v i c e on how h should c o n d u c t himself on th squad. Most of the advice from thes "militants" is of a disruptive nq ture trying to get him to cause ai i n c i d e n t. Since this particula coach is very close to his athlete. they tell him about their confusior When it really comes down to th final analysis, however, any atil lete is going to listen to those h considers his people. This "advice," when it is cor trary to w h a t his coaches ani teammates tell him, is bound t cause a conflict in any athlete' mind. Therefore, I honestly do no believe that the average person, i or out of college, has any idea o the frustration that some of thes, black athletes can go through. Hult: Speaking of the frustratioi of a black athlete, what about th Charlie Scott incident? Dietzel: You know, Don, it i amazing, but the film of the gami does show that some of the stu dents actually got mad at the offi cials and threw pennies on the floo: at the officials. These pennies wer, not directed at Charlie Scott at all However, some North Carolin papers depicted this as our studen body throwing pennies at Charli, Scott. This was not true at all The incident became very blown up Since I was down in the area a the time, along with our busines: manager, Ralph Floyd, we knov that there was no "incident." Im mediately after the game, even be fore I went down to console ou: own team and Coach McGuire ii our dressing room, I went to th North Carolina dressing room an s, 7-2; Loss USC also took the number five singles match when Stuart Rey nolds defeated Hart Cobb, 6-4, 6-0 In doubles competition the Game cock duo of Heald and Schlosse: dlefeated the Amaya brothers, 6-3 8-10, 6-1. Reynolds and Weisser dropped three-set match to the PC tean o,f McKenzie andl Gregg, 6-3, 4-6 6-2. In the number three doubles th< Austin-Ragle team defeated Juar Amaya and Cobb. Security Life and Trust Company becomes part of I NT EGON We Listened. We added new services to our company to serve you beolter now and In the future. We united those services under a new name to better identify what we do. We're Integon Corporation. We listen. Talk to the U.stener from BILL BROOKS 254-7765 * INTECON ions 0 Of Bla e congratulated Coach Smith and the - North Carolina players. s During my visit to the North Carolina dressing room, I person I ally shook hands with Charlie Scott e and congratulated him on his fine performance and on the North s Carolina victory. No one was upset, I- that I know of. Of 12,000 people t in the Coliseum, I am not so naive t to think that we don't h a y e a e couple of people who might make r stupid comments. Ifult: It has been said on the cam pus that the scholarship athletes are e the ones who had the Rebel Flag e and carried it around the basketball court. e Dietzel: That is not t r u e. I looked down when they were walk ring around and I did see one or two athletes who w e r e a in o n g the group. However 95 per c e n t of them were boys that I did not rec ognize, and I believe I know all e our athletes on sight. By the way, it was unnoticed that our business manager, Ralph :1 Floyd, politely ushered the boys D off the court before they made the s circuit and they politely obliged. t Ifult: Do you approve of the song I "Dixie"? f Dietzel: Personally, I like t h e s o n g immensely. It has lots of bounce and lots of energy to it. To 1 me, it is an enthusiastic song that D our band seems to enjoy playing and a huge majority of our student s body enjoys, also. It happens to be part of the rep ertoire of our band here at South Carolina. Frankly, I am extremely r proud to be at South Carolina and can see no fault in playing such a spirited song. 1 The song has no implications to t me of struggle or strife. That is a personal thing. I personally like it very much. Ilult: Do you seek cooperation from the black conununity when you recruit a black athlete? Dietzel: Yes, we have had help from the Urban League and we r ha-,e also had some great help from some Negro coaches in our area as well as a few Negro students. We would really welcome more help in . this area if they would be willing. I Ilult: Coach Dietzel, it has been I rumored on this campus that the white scholarship athletes are trying Brings -SPAGHETTI DI EVERY M 97 lNCL[ SPAGHETTI W/MEAT SAUCE TEA OR HOME OF "THE PIZZA YOI TAKE-OUT NO I 256-1 215 Pickens Stre< HEDE See Our Si Distinctive 1 KNIT SHIRTS BAN-IONS L *SOLIDS -$11.00 *STRIPES - $13.00 MOCK TURTLES *SOLIDS - $10.00 *SOLIDS with trin *STRIPES - $12.00 COTTON & DAC By Puritan, Ja *STRIPES & SOLID *MOCK TURTLES Solids & Strip4 718 Sal..,a AVE nPro ck At to intimidate the black students on the campus. Dietzel: Tha't is absolutely ridic. ulous. Let me first say that at the American Football Coaches Asso ciation (AFCA) and the NCAA Convention this spring in Los An gelcs, we were g i v e n the back ground of some of the problems which had occurred on other cain puses as per the militants. Documents from the militants' "Plan of Events" revealed that the militants felt one of the most vul nerable areas was athletics. Other things on the campus are difficult to attack but the Athletic Depart ment and athletes are more in the pen and are, henceforth, more vulnerable. In other words, it is lifficult to attack the curriculum. Who do you attack? Where do you start? Because of this information, ath letic departments throughout the :ountry have been finding t h a t they are being lampooned by dif rerent militant groups. One of the first things to attempt, of course, ,vould be to try to cause a confron Lation between the athletes and a nilitant group. This is especially true in the Southern part of the country be -ause integration has taken place nore slowly than in other parts of he country. Problems, however, are ust as prevalent in the North, E'ast and West as any place else. Would you say that t h e geo ,raphic span has been the East -oast-Columbia University; West ,oast-Berkeley; North - Univer ;ity of Wisconsin? That is a pretty -ood geographical spread. You see, Don, these problems are very care rully p 1 a n n e d. They don't just 'happen." Wolf pack Cancels Carolina's track team will be in '4orth Carolina tomorrow to par icipate in the North Carolina Re ays. The Gamecocks did not run igainst N. C. S t a t e Thursday. Wolfpack officials said that their rack would not be ready in time. North Carolina had a similar prob em last week and came to Colum >ia to run. N. C. State declined an >ffer from Duke the use of their rack facilities. 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