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Student Senate Minutes February 19, 1962 The regular meeting of Student Senate was called to order by the President, John Chappell. Chaplain Todd Walter opened the meeting with prayer. The roll waut called, but the reading of the minutes was 'Vaived due to the public hearing ol a Cold War Seuiinar on the Carolina Canpus. Presiden Chaipell expihiilel Ihilit the meeting would be coiucted as ime li. a iearing it the State Seiate ax possible. le said that each speaket would be allo"til (w iiiuiities, after which timie wouald be called, haul he i hle open for qnestioiiig. The gnueits at the hearing were called on first. Archer Wilder was 'le firit affir'aive speaker. lie is a member of the Young Ameri '-oi for V re*doni, and he said that YAF is in favor of holding a Cold War So niitnr on tie Carolina campus. Senator Ken Holland, speaking :t Sem inar 'onimittie. asked Wilder if he thought a Cold War m wohi helt, alert t Carolina students or just inform them o:t conmi:ir.nikm. Ilc sait he hoped that it would do both. Holland asicd him hew nin * studk, a he thought would attend and Wilder 011e thoit Ru'1 wsseli Ho A ud itoriutim would he filled. NegtinIolowsAffirmliative -I. r1. rt I. - mfithe w-as the first negative speaker. Hle warned . anrs t try i: to learn everything about communismP 1lV:tv, ays. H;., sal ie thought the seminar would be worth hil;e if speakers who were well infornied aid had devoted their lives o the st":*dv , voiiutisii would come to the seminar. He said he tih tia iu 'rstanding could occur if qualified speakers did not coIIe Iwel -tl mmuism is such 1 sly. tricky, subtle subject. Senator llXaw az:retl Sm1th tiat if the Seminar were held, competent, neme :speaserswould be secured. . 1u L.Iram w%as the next affirmative speaker. le said it was very I10#"ess r\ for A mericans who are interestetd in their country and its futil.e to la'n about the enemy. Senator Berry St. John, of the con iittee. asked Ingrai if he thought tshould a seminar he held) the ('arolia students would galii anything or he made more aware of Coninitunismi by ai Alert or seimiinar. Ingrai said yes; he thought the alert would be worth havaing if one student were awakened. le said, however, he thought miay wotitl re-spond if the seminar were widely )ublicizet. Senator IRolland a'ked if he thiought the Carolina student was well informed tabout Coiminnisin. lie replied no. Senator lol iand askii for his opinion In wlether an A Illerican student going abroad could argue fOr our coontry. H1e replIied 1o. Senator Jiiyi 'ruesdale asked Ingram if Ills main concern was that the Seminar he held, not how it is held. Ingrani replied yes, he thought tile iimost imp1ortan11t factor was that tIhe Seminar he held Pro and14 (:on San Pongiornto was the next negative speaker. lie said lie was in favor of the senilnar if Carolina speakers and professors were invited to speak. le said he thought tht t len if tle Carolina students were ilnterested, they would take cours s in co muilln il isti. Senator Iolland asked him if lie felt ie couldn't gain anything, by a seminar of the Cold War type, no iimatter how objecti\v it be. lie asked Bongiorno if ie was a rightist or leftist ; Blongior"nIo reldied he was a little to the left. 1lolland asked hin if lie objeCted to the ultra-right speakers oi caipus. Boigiorio said yes, ultra-right or uItra-left. Ilolland asked him if Iis interest would be stiniulated by Icaring a pe.rson's opinion who differed with his. He said no. if they were well inforimte.I. Dan Carter spoke for the iegative side also. lIe said his main obijectioln was that these seminrs were drmaiiatized toO miuch. They didn't give enough real inforiation on conim till isni. le wants real facts. le doesn't want any part of the seminar if speakers conie who say cOImIIIInIIisIm has ",shot all thi rtughtll Our goverinmeit and our land." le is agaiist such literature as "'lhe Comniiinist Conspiracy." which he feels is full of "platitu(d(s and cliches." Senator Ilolland asked himi if he felt a student could draw the truth for hiimsolf by reading schiarly joiuls. lie said yes; he didn't feel Aiericans were ignorant. lIlollanl askt-d him if lit woull attend one of the seminars were it held here. Ile said yes. Carter was then asked what untruths he had found in the pam 1Ilet. Hie said1 h( couli find no background for statemients by Stalin and Lenin in the paiphlet. There weret no Imiore guest speakers. Senator Bob Whitakter was next to speak. He said lie saw the need fi;r a seniinar andI put trust inl the two lnerii's of the conimittee with whoi ie was acquainted to get giood speakers. lie said there seemed to b' no ireal ob jectionis to having theo stenuniiar, the qutestion seemed to be uhethier or. nott we cotultd trust ourse'lvtes not to lie fanatics. J1iniunyii T ruesdlaIt sai hle though t the ma in problem was whether to havte Coniservative or Iba eral, or' t'motional speakers. HeI( feels a n'ed for varit'd spteaki'rs with various views. Hie said the only wvay an ii gten t stutden t litity caii formi wo rthy oiniions is if a wide range of spe'aki'ris ar' tobtaiinted. C'harilts I elin tg said lie feetls StinIla rs so fari have createdl panic, lr.and some at even ha tte. He fee'ls Studenlit Steniate should take a di f fo v 2 V w antI inf ormi l( the US( studteiit as to what lit is fighting for and : st what the Amlit'ricaniii detalI is. lit feetls the peole~ hav'e been .1 to a i h byl thiri enmiot iinls. Stenator Daieol aske'd hliing to what heIC I-"tted success of these' seinilars. Hie said lie didn't consider naor 'I Truesdalte askted how an unh iased speakter could lie secured. Il-- :u:il: hU :dn't know, hut it' not, tint' til one sidet and1( onie on the other. 'There werei rn. :noir spea:keirs. The a 'om amitte thI anki d all thiose wh'lo appeared. The matter was ferred m to theii ('ol Wari Stim inarI Commiittee. The committee will re port nlex' we''.k 'Ihere'I' i-:in no. futhe'r buisjiness, th mi' ieeting wvas adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Brenda(ll Willianis Secretary We all miake mlistakes... 27 ERASE WITIHOUT A TRACE ON EATON'S CORRASABLE BOND Don't meet your Waterloo at the typewriter-perfectly typed papers biegin with Coirr5sable! You can rub out typing errors with just an oirdinary pencil eraser. It's that simple to crase without a trace on Corrisable. Saves time, temper, andt money! 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Opportunity Panel The third "Opportunity Panel" of the Young Presidents' organiza tion in South Carolina will be t conducted at 2 p.m. Tuesday, Feb. 27, in the auditorium of the U School of Business Administration. t The panel, which is composed of a some of America's youngest com- t Iany presidents, will answer E questions by USC students in the I informal one to two-hour discus sion period. a The object of the panel is to advise upl)perclassmen how to get t ahead in the business world. - f( S. C. Collegiate Presq South Carolina college journal- $ ists will meet at Wofford College in Spartanburg March 9-10 for f the annual S. C. Collegiate Press U Assn. convention. Officers of the association are i Charles Behling, USC, president; Dow Colet, Furman, vice presi- 0 dent; Becky Epting, Clemson, y treasurer; and Levona Page, USC, k( secretary. li Participants will hear an ad- h dress by Merrill Pollack, associate tt editor of The Saturday Evening Post, during the awards dinner a Saturday night. Reminder To Phi Epsilon Nu Members Members of Phi Epsilon Nu, women's journalism sorority are reminded that Story-of-the-Month decisions are due Feb. 25. Please contact president Cloudy Hardy for a category to judge, if you were not present at the last meeting. PAUL DESMOND with Strings. "Desmond Blue." The haunting saxophone of Paul Desmond, win ner of the ''PLAYBOY 1961 Alto Sax Jazz Award," is newly and neatly set amidst strings, woodwinds, harp and rhythm. Inspired solo improvisa tions. Includes title theme, 8 more. AVAILAULE IN LIVING STE REO AND MONAURAL NI-Fl RCA VICTOR* The most tuenaame in so..und ty Panel ,ld Soon The dinner meeting will climax wo days of activities including reception by Wofford College fficials, discussion groups, elec ion of officers, and a tour of the partanburg newspaper plants. Education Related To igh Pay Is the cost of a college educa on worth it? Just how quickly the cost of a niversity education is repaid to ie graduate is illustrated by a Lemorandum just published by ie Research Division of National :ducation A s s n., Washington, . C. Average monthly starting sal ry of male graduates in all elds is expected to be $485 when iey begin their first jobs in June -$5,820 a year. Starting salary >r graduates last June averaged 5,700. Cost of acquiring an education >r a resident of this state at the niversity is about $1,100 yearly -$4,400 for a four-year course, icluding housing and meals. At the average starting salary $485 the total cost of a four 3ar course would be earned in ss than 10 months. In addition, fetime earnings will be far igher in nearly every instance kan that of non-graduates. Engineering graduates w i ll Tain receive the highest average arting salary of all categories 42 monthly; $6,504 yearly. The demand for inexperienced ale graduates is up 26.8 per cent ver a year ago in engineering nd up an average of 22.6 per mt in all fields combined. Increase in demand for inex rienced women graduates is up 2 per cent in all fields combined. Gi Experienced girl w has lost some of its (This is definitely ni ever, it may be pre advanced students. concentrating on og WHY BE AN JOIN THE AM~ OF GIRL WA' FREE MEMBERSHIP this publication for a only society devotcd1 ing. Constitution of This ad based on the bi Copy right by Donald . Ded ini. Reprinted by pec Ca? c. Phed.e t S4t~~M*~ A ,.. This For Me? Dr. David D. Strebe of the Mathematics Department is glee ful after being presentel with an unexpected token of recognition by members of Kappa Delta Epsi ioi, national honorary education sorority. Dr. Strebe, recently chos en KDE Sweetheart, was guest speaker at this organization's Valentine's Day mecting. Kappa Delta Epsilon members strive to promote the cause of education by fostering a spirit of fellowship, high standards of scholastic attainmeat, and profes sional ideals among its meniers. (Photo hy Seth Harrison.) Proposed (Continued from page 1) Three members of Student Sen ate gave their views on the subject. Robert Whitaker asked if the students could trust themselves to give a decent or useful seminar. Jim Truesdale felt that it would be possible to contact all types of speakers. le said that there are some students who may have to be reached by an emotional point of view because they have had no political theory. Charles Behling said that semi nars make an appeal to the emo tions. If the seminar is held, it might serve as a conveyor of emo tional panic and suspicion. The opinions of most of the speakers seemed to be that a seminar should be held if the right speakers can be brought in. The issue will be decided next week at the regularly scheduled meeting of Student Senate. SWatct Dresented by Pall MC ) 0 II 1) o u Q o I - -eco in atchers, for whom routine watching excitement, often become specialists. t recommended for beginners. IHow icticed as a change-of-pace by more They may spend an entire field trip w part of a girl. This tends to step uIp AMATEUR ? ERICAN SOCIETY FCHERS NOW ! CARD. Visit the editorial office of free miembership card in the world's to discreet, btut relentless, girl watch the society on reverse side of card. nok, "The Girl WVatcher's Guide." Text: Sauers. D)rawings: Copyright by EIldon mission of IHarper & ltrothers. Campus A "Ganiecock" There will be a news staff meet ing today at 3 o'clock in Room 208, Russell House. * * * Canterbury Canterbury Club will meet at 15:30 p.m. on Sunday for supper, worship, and a program. * * * B. S. U. The Baptist Student Union luncheon will be held at 1 p.m. at the B. S. U. Center. Vespers are held at 6:30 on Wednesdays. * * * Attention, All Engineers Monday, March 19, through Wednesday, March 21, has been set aside for making appointments for counseling and preadvisement for the Summer School Sessions and the Fall Semester 1962. All Mechanical Engineering stu dents are required to contact Mrs. Garrigues, Extension 451 (or Room 218, College of Engineering) and make an appoantment to see a counselor during the following two weeks. All counseling should 1 be completed by Friday, March 2. I * * *1 "Y" Lunchc<ms Freshman "Y" luncheon will be I held Monday at 1 p.m. in the Rus sell House Assembly Room. MAMMY'S Famous Sm Served 3020 Two N er's Gui il Famous Cigarettes beautifu l. exml, if oude ab a ppast ea nl specia wtlchingl specialty, nmakc sure your. Pall Mall's natural mildness-it's so Pall natural Ii i to yoi / So smi-oothi sefs Jr.-Sr. and Sophomore "Y" uncheons will be held Wednesday ind Thursday, respectively, at 1 * * * Young Americans For Freedom Young Americans for Freedoit vill sponsor an Anti-communist Rally for USC students Thursday, Warch 1, at 7 p.m. in the Law 3chool Auditorium. The Rally will feature the movie 'Communist Encirclement-1961" in(d a speech by Lt. Cmdr. Ernes 3. Smith, USN, entitled "Chal enge of Communism," followed by x question and answer period. * * * Carolina Flying Club The Carolina Flying Club will iold an important meeting on ruesday night, Feb. 27, at 7:30 It' room 204, Russell House. All old nmbers and persons interested in flying are urged to attend. 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