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ELBERT H. AULL, EDIToI. ELBERT H. AULL, Propretors. WM. P. HOUSEAL. j .EWBE RRY. S. C. THURSDAY, i LY 30, 1S91. THE STATE ALLIANCE. I had the pleasure of attending the annual session of the State Alliance held at Spartanburg last week. I regret that The Herald and News will not :iave a full report of the meet ing this week, and in its absence I will give some notes of the session. The sessions were secret and only such matters as the order desired to give out were furnished for publication. Every county in the State was rep resented, each county having one dele gate, except three which had more Barnwell two, Orangeburg two and Spartanburg three-they being entitled to that number on account of member ship. The present office- ere re-elected as follows: President, J. William Stokes, of Orangeburg; vice-president, W. D. EvEns, of Marlboro: secretary, J. W. e;J, of Spartanburg; treasurer, F. P. Taylor, of Chesterfield, chaplain, Rev. James Douglass, of Fairfield; lecturer, W. - Jasper Talbert, of Edgefield; steward, H. McRae, of Marion; door keeper, J. W. Kennedy, of Williams burg; assistant doorkeeper, A. R. Wal ter, of Horry; sergeant-at-arms, J. E. Jarnigan, of Marion. Executive committee: Lucas McIn tosh, of Darlington; T. P. Mitchell, of Fairfield; S. T. D. Lancaster, of Spar tanburg. During the session Lecturer Talbert resigned and J. R. Jeffries, of Union, was chosen his successor. Mr. Talbert's reason for resigning was that as under the new constitution the office of lect urer was now a salaried one, it would not be proper to retain it and at the same time hold a salaried office under the State. Newberry County was represented by Mr. J. A. Sligh in the Alliance and also in the meeting of the Trustee Stockholders. Col. E. S. Keitt Mr. J. -L. Keitt and Mr Ruff, of Newberry, were also in attendance upon the meeting. . President Polk, of the National Alli ance, was present and delivered a public address. He is a good speaker and pre sents his side of the case and the de mands of the Alliance in a pleasing and forcible- manner. He theorizes well, and on his speech I will have some thing to say hereafter, when I can pub lish in the same connection what he said. The great debate between Gov. Till man and Col. Terrell on the sub-treas ury was had before the Alliance in secret, and they were scrupulously care ful to have- none but Alliance men present and newspaper men were all ex cluded. A report that purports to set fQrth what the debaters said has been e<;, and if it is correct, it was no dby Gov. Tillman him nt in the meet The general opinion among Alliance men was that from an Alliance :tand point Mr. Terrell got the best of the discussion. There is no doubt that he had the sympathy of the Alliancemen with him. The Alliance made a mistake in hay ing this discussion in secret. A* good many who favored secrecy admitted this fact after it was over. A question of such moment'to all the people should have the fullest and freest discussion and not be held behind closed doors in secr et. The ~Ocala platform including the sub-treasury scheme was endorsed without opposition after the debate. A formula for an Alliance fertilizer to be known as the Allianc brand was adopted and bids for its manufacture will be advertised for. The following is the formula: Four per cent. of am ~onia, nine per cent. of phosphoric 4 and two per cent. of potash. of rp-as decided to hold a convention rwin yntatives from all the cotton Wednesday 'TmAtata on the first the. cotton pro~ uSptember to discuss: are the commissiO 'lem. The following ance in South Coro rs from the Alli can, Union, chairman; Rag I. P. Dun Orangeburg; J. R. Harra R. Walters, ville; W. N. Elder, York; Wan, Green berg, Baruwell; G. P. DJavis, A Bamn don. reu dThle following delegates to the Na-j - ional Alliance were elected: J. W. - p -Stokes, E. T. Stackhouse, \\V. J. Tal- it' -bert;:alternates, J. L. Keitt, D). P. Dun- pr can. -'Columbia was selected as the place to em hold the next annual session. ri sTATE EXCl.ANGE. Several meetings of the trustee- r stockholders were held. They elected ci the following board of directors : so From the State at large--. A. Sligh' ti of Newberry; D). P. Duncan, of Union, First District-G. W. You nginer, of Lexington. Second District-W. H. at Timmermnan, of Edgefield. Third Dis- c< -trict-J. M. Glenn, . of Anderson. et Fourth District-John R{. Harrison, of Greenville. Fifth District-R. L. Hick lin, of Lancaster. Sixth District-J. W. Ferguson, of Florence. Seventh District-George J. Graham, of Wil-S liamsbulrg. The board elected J. A. Sligb, of Newberry, president; WV. H. Timmer- -t man, of Edgefield, secretary; and S. W. Ferguson, of F'lorence, treasurer. M. L. Donaldson, of Greenville, was re-elected business agent of the State Exchange and for tbe present the Ex change will remain at Greenville. It was said that Mr. Oswald W ilson, of New York, was before the trustee stockholders in the interest of that pro- a posed ten million dollar scheme for thea - establishment of co-operative stores by the Alliance, and that the propositon was favorably received by the trustee- I stockholders, but the members refused to give out anything at all, except that Mr. Wilson was present. The members of the Alliance treated me with great courtesy and kindness, and I have no word to say against them. The order, I think, is a good one and can accomplish much good to the firmers. I do not endorse all the demands, but I think when the mem bers realize the impracticability of some of them and find relief in something else, as they will, the order will accom plish great good. Before this is done some of the extreme leaders will have to be unloaded. The session is said to have been a very pleasant, harmonious and satisfac - tory one. I't was decided that newspaper men were ineligible to membership. X:-. D. 0. G. Ouzts and Mr. W. J. Shelton, who were members of sub-Alliances in their respective counties, were refused ad mission on the ground that they were ineligible to membership by virtue of their vocation. Mr. Isobinson, of the Peoples Journal, of Pickens County, . was present and attendedi the sessions of the Alliance. Why this difference I do not know. E. H. A. 2~ 2 ~' N BUTLER VS. STOKES. TLE GREAT SUB-TREASURY DEBATk IS OVER. Senator Butler Meets President Stokes ir Public Discussion of the Sub-Treasury Plan-Talbert Talks-The Herald and News Furnishes Full Report To-day. The great discussion at Prosperity betweeu Dr. Stokes and Senator Butlei draw the largest crowd that has been seen since the Tillman campaign. By nine o'clock the grove at Col. Toung'; was full of -vehicles of all description, from a road-cart to a phieton. New berry County was there in full force, and it looked as if the Town of New berry had migrated to Prosperity in a body. The presence of several hundred of the fair sex lent a charm and inter est to the occasion that a mere political or economic discussion could not have excited. At least fifteen hundred peo ple were present, of whom at least f ree hundred were stalwart citizens of Luge ield, drawn thither more, perhaps, by the desire to hear Senator Butler, the pet and hero of old Edgefield, than from any special interest in the sub treasury scheme. The 'utmost decorum, and good humor prevailed and the crowd seemed bent on social intercourse and enjoy inent rather than the consideration of -rave questions of State. The meeting was called to order promptly at 10 o'clock by J. A. Sligh, President of the County Alliance, and Rev. J. B. Traywick led in prayer. President Sligh in his remarks said it was a hopeful sign to see so many present; that it showed they were seek ing after the truth, and that the object of this discussion was to give them in formation and he hoped they would ive the closest attention; that it was not desired to give the speakers ap plause, but to give them an attentive bearing; to demonstrate that our brain was not in our mouth nor our heels, bi in our heads. There is difference >f opinion on the sub-treasury, and bone-t difference. Something was wrong somewhere, and we want to find the remedy. President Sligh's in junction was followed almost to the letter. PRESIDENT STOKE'S SPEECH. President Stokes said: "I esteem it i high privilege to meet with citizens f this county, and to speak to them. i am a native Carolinian and feel that every other Carolinian is my brothei nd compatriot. I am glad to meet with you and give you such conclu sion as I have arrived at in the study of the great economic questions of the lay. This large audience is a hopeful sign and U. is to be an intellectual and quiet presentation of facts and ar ;uments. The Alliance has been criti ized very largely for not having its iscussions in public and I will only reply to that that this andience to heal this public discussion of an Alliance measure at the instance of an Alliance man is sufficient answer. So far as the Alliance is concerned the State Alli ance has settled this question of the sub-treasury plan by adopting the Ocala platform which embraces this dlemand. The Alliance is not opposed to public discussion. It has now set tied its family quarrel. Senator But ler was invited to discuss this question by myself as head of the Alliance in this State. I had expected to be else where and had expected Mr. Living ston to discuss this question, but as Mr. Livingston is not here on account 01 inability to get here, I will take up the :lebate. He trusted that the audience would remember the instruction of the Coun ty President and give both speakers a aareful bearing. With this introduc tion e entered the discussion of the 3uestion. He said the Alliance announced as one f its denXands the sub-treasury scheme 3y wblch noperishable ?Kr~m pr8et ire to be stored and treasury notes issued upon them as a basis. There are good many reasons I would submit in support of this scheme, but as my trength will not permit me to cover the whole ground, I shall only ask your attention to some of them. The first I would assign is admitted y all financiers and does not need laborate argument, and that is that Lhe circulating medium is insuflicent md needs to be increased. The second proposition I will sub rnit is that the price of commoditi"s >ears a definite relation to the volume of he circulating medium and regulates ;he price products will bring when laed upon the market. As authority 'or this proposition I would give Adam mith, the father of political economy, stuart Mill, Clay, Calhoun and 25 or 0 of the ablest writers on* political conomy. If I were to look elsewhere or authority on this point I would ap eal to the common sense of the farm. rs to sustain it. He illustrated this oint by the man who had ahorse to yell that was worth $250 and if there vas only $150 with which to buy it of ~ourse he could not get full value for 2s horse. If you cut the circulating edium one-h~alf you reduce the price >f commodities one half. Second. Not only does the currency iot bear the proper relation to business, yut it lacks one quality which the Far nrrs' Alliance was the first to promnul r and demand-and that is the qual oce :lasticity. 1 might show from a ed of iLn.f reasoning that there was tire and as During the fall season the ulturist for s-'mulated labor of the ag arketed in tht-elve months is to be .e volume of curreli.onths. Even if gular channels it wou,. -wed in its nt to meet the exigencies o' he sufi n. When we consider the face e total circulating medium is oy 480,000,000 and that six corporation~ idten men can control $1,000,000,000" any time and produce an abnormal~ ndition, we see the need of a flexible irrency that can be controlled by the rmners. The want .of 1.exibility af cts everybody in business. The purpose of this scheme is not >lely to benefit the farmers, but the rinciple is as broad as the country and need only call the attention of busi ess men here to the cramped condi on of the money market in the fall. t is especially~ hurtful to the farmer ecause he must labor and wait 12 :ionths before he can put his product n the market. The mien who control the money :now that the vast amouut of farm roducts must be marketed and they ut the money out of the way nd the farmer must sell upon falling market. It is not designed to 'aise the price of farm products but to >rotect against this abnormal condition >f things. There are three classes of prod ucres: [he miners, manufacturers and agri ~ulturists. Oniy the agriculturist is a )roducer in the'strict sense of the term. ie plants one bushel of grain and hiar ests ten. This represents an actual ~reation of nine bushels. There are two wvays of evening ulp :hings when they are unequal-to sub :ract from the larger or add to the Men eho own United States bonds bave a special privilege of deposRina these with the government and having money issued upon them as a basis o security. We dare not take away tha privilege, for it would deprive us of th~ wvhole basis of;the circulating medium and the only thing left for us to d< is to extend that pr"'ilege and put th< farmer upon an gal.: footing. Some rgue that it is unfair to the other t w classes of producers.buit as I have showr they are not pioducers in the strict sen.s of the term, and then they canjD their products upon the mark~4 month in the year. They ected both by natural la statute law. This sub-treasury sche the farmer upon the as others, provided always they can give asgood security. Mr. Stone, edi tor of a New York commercial paper, admits the need of a more elastic mon ey while not endorsing the Farmers' Alliance ideas. He proposes State Banks of issue under proper restric tions. The:objection to this plan, however, is that the same men who now control the currency would still control it. I do not claim him, as has been reported, as a convert to the sub-treasury plan, but his idea as to the need of an elastic currency is the same idea advocated by the Farmers' Alliance, under the I same of a flexible currency. He is credited as being one of the bestauthor ities oi:finance. We are not wedded;to the sub-treasury plan. We would wel come anything that would give the needed relief. Some one asked for an explanation of the term flexibility. Dr. Stokes re plied that flexibility means such a quality of currency as. when the pro duce comes to be marketed will be in creased and rur along parallel with the demands, and willl never go beyond them, and will thereby remove the evils of contraction. I have t.r.ve I th- ourrency ii insuffi cient and needs to be more elastic. Now how are these two needs to be sup plied? First, by the issue of "fiat" money, which is based on nothing but the power of the Government to -)ay. He claimed that. Calhoun in his great speech of 1837 advocated the idea of "fiat" money. One objection to currency of this character is that it has no basis but the power of the Government to tax. The only other plan is a paper cur rency based upon something of value. We have already gold and silver cer tificates and National Bank nott.s. There is no chance of increasing the currency from these sources. Already sixty millions of gold have been taken out of the country in order, as I believe, to prevent the Government from re deeming the bonds which fall, due in September. If all the gold and silver available were coined into money, it would not increase the currency more than one dollar per capita per annurim, and at this rate it would require forty years to reach the per capita of circulation which we demand. What remains as the basis for the issue of an increased volume of curren cy? I can see nothing else save alonellands and products of thecountry. Some other basis may develop after awhile, and if they do and prove better the Farmer, Alliance is bound to ac cept them. Objections to State banks of issue is that the notes of such banks would not circulate at par, perhaps, in other States. I just wish to ask why the farmer -hould be discriminated against. The producer of silver and gold deposits his product in the warehouse, or the treas ury, and has money issued on it. Then why should not the farmer deposit his white staple in the warehouse and have money issued on it. Dr. Stokes spoke about one hour in his opening and was given an atten tive hearing. SENATOR BUTLER'S SPEECH. Senator Butler was then introduced and spoke as follows: Mr. Chairman, fellow citizens and ladies of Newberry County. LA voice in the crowd, "Don't leave out Edge field, there are some of us here. J Butler continuing. "I have seen a good many of you here to-day. I join most heartily in the expressions which have fallen from the distinguished speakers who have preceded me in expressing my gratifr:ation and satisfaction that all the :-ple of this county, farmers, mer chants,' professional men and laboring men, are awakening and taking a deep. and profound interest in public affairs. Agitation never alarms me. When younger I rather liked it; and now I welcome with gratification the fact that the people_all over this State and deep interest in their public affairs. Mly experience has been that when ever a question is argued fairly and truthfully before the people they gen erally decide right, and therefore I re ciprocate cordially the sen timen tswhich have fallen from the gentlemen who have preceded me. I want nothing but the light and nothing but the truth, and the people of South Carolina want nothing but that, and with nothing else will they be satisfied. I supposed when I accepted this invitation that it w as to address the- people of this com munity upon what is known as the sub-treasury scheme of the Alliance, that I2 would be confronted with an array of argument in favor of it that would put me to my trumps to meet, but af'er hearing the address of my friend I will say to him whbat one of his brother Alliancemen said to me after an hour's conversation on the train the other day. He said, 'Senator Butler, we are not so far apart after all.' I yield to my friend in the main all that he has demanded on behalf of the'Alli ance ex:ept what he chooses to state as the sub-treasury plan of the Alliance. I 'propose to take issue with him in some of his economic views-some of his enunciations of doctrine of politi cal economy. I do not know for in stance that I could agree with him in his saying that the relation which the currency of the country occupies to product reguiates prices. I do not knowv that that is s.ound doctrine. No doubt it has something to do with it, but there is anothe:- factor which plays an important part in the matter of price and that is the question of supply and demand. If we had not made 9 million bales of cotton last year cotton would bring a highe.t price. Why? Because the supply was greater than the demand. if there is a large corn crop in this country it is going down in price because the supply is greater than the demand. Sc' with reference to a large wheat cro.p, the identical reason applies. It is true not only of agricultural products, but it is true of mining, pig iron and manufact ribg products. .One advantage that he manufacturer has over the farmer s this, when they find by their produc on of the manufactured article that eyhave more than they can secure t numerative prices for they shut down - d stop work. So it is in the mining, k raising and every department of The question of supply and de nd has something to do with it. s. L.~i Keitt enterrupted Senator r. oer wih this question: "Does the m fsupply and demand apply to th ey as well as product'." nator Butler: "Yes, I answer a -y and times yes." [Voice, "Go Senator, you are right."] ho .- claime bthse who are op woto fre cong f silver, by those 90 pr e opposed to the increase of the count y per capita in thiscountry that Iocent. of the business of the yo o' is done by check, that is to say if ransf ou $100 I give you a check for it, hmaanother man that amount and gets to the check by endorsement to haep'perhaps before that _check when firhe bank for redemption it may nent of 4a $1,000 debt. That argument struck presented to me by an oppo my fre'-free coinage of silver rather leading a~ umb for a mornient. I said who can hat is a deceptive and mis bank accot aet nthis that a man How m teacheck must have a this count t. bank, but -y millions of people in by actual d 4who have never seen a an argumen transact their business analys~ - I gery of the money. Such lnot stand the test of men id to him that the argu cay that we have $22 per untry is also a mistake .According to the made there is but one red million currency untry for the transac of 6.5 million people. t $22 or $23 per capita. pin the Senate and $ 2 per capita is stored away in the U. S. treasury and the banking institu tions for redemption purposes and not in circulation aid what itwill reduce the circulation to they said they could not tell exactly. One Senator, a Republi can, made an estimate and reduced the circulation to about 600 million. I think he was too 1w. My estimate is that there is about $16 per capita in circulation. I agree with my friend that there is something wrong. The question is to find out what's the mat ter: to diagnose the case correctly. I think that the difference between me and my friend on the sub-treasury mat ter is that they are treating the wrong organ, and the remedies that they sug gest are not the remedies to cure the patient. I do not denounce every man who i! in favor of the sub-treasury as a fool, and I do not want any one to so de nounce me because I am opposed to it. We all have a common interest and can't afford to allow an intolerance of difference of opinion. I have brought with me official copies of the bill which were introduced. I understand my friends to say that the bills are not under discussion, that the sub-treasury plan is under discussion. How in the name of heaven am I to get at the plan unless I read the bill? It is the bill I am opposed to; my conscience and my judgment will not permit me to approve of it. Before I proceed to discuss the bills before me, I will indulge in a few pre liminary remarks as to the structure, scope and power of this popular form of government of ours. There is not a man in this vast audience who has not within his nature a principle amount ing to an instinct, of home rule and local self-government. Senator Butler then went into -a dis cussion of self-government and the rights of the States, and the instinct that would not allow interferencu, with local domestic affairs. The application of this principle was made to show the relation that the Federal and State governments sustain to each other. and argued that this bill offended that doc trine in his judgment-the doctrine upon which-the very bed rock and foundation-upon which our popular government is built, and, said the.Sen ator "the more you encroach upon it the more do you threaten the preserva tion and the perpetuity of popular gov ernment and Republican institutions.' The speaker then read Senate bill 2816. The first section contemplates the building and organization of ware houses in every county in the United States, and there are about 2,900 of them. Every county which produces agricultural products to the value of $500,000 shall be entitled to have a warehouse built within that county. The speaker argued that this showed discrimination as some of the counties did not produce that much and could not have wa'rebouses. Paragraph second of bill reads that 100 or more citizens of said county shall petition the Secretary of the Treasury -"this," said the speaker, without considering remainder of section, "says you shall petition the man whose func tion it is to be the custodian and dis burser of our public money. Now, you make him dabble in agriculture. You must give the land upon which the warehouse is built to the government for all time according to this bill and if the warehouses or any of them should be abandoned the title is is the government. "To establish a United States agriculturai depository and ap point a manager thereof"-whon do yo: suppose the Secretary of the Treas ury would select in New berry for thiS position ? I know pietty well who he would se lect in Edgefield-a mulatto. [ Laugh ter.] Talbert inturrupting said': "Vance put the latter clause to section 1. sub. division 2. in the bill himself in order to crg out against the unconstitution ality of it." ..Ju.ter.: ":I wLcome& to the eincon stitutionality part of it myself directly. I deal with the record as I find it. If that provision had been injected in that section as a light from heaven it would not have made it any more acceptable to me." [Cheers.] Talbert : "It is the objectionable feature I am speaking of." Butler : "I am glad my friend agrees with me about thnt. We are making progress and before I get through he will be with me." [Laugh. ter and cheers.1 Talbert: "No, you are getting on our platform." Butler: "If I am not driving a six teen-horse wagon through your plat form, I never sawv a wagon." [Cheers. Voices-"Rub it in, General. -Go ahead.] The Senator then discussed section 2, l, 4, and 5 of the bill. - This bill gives the manager the right to grade the cotton and put the price upon it. He alone is the final ar bitrator. What right would the poor man have or, for that matter, any man?J If you were going to store cotton and should not be on good terms with the manager, what good reason would you have to expect justice at his hands ? If he felt disposed, he could .grade you down. When do we want nmost money and when .'is money :scarce? Why in the spring and sumimer at the very time thaL, under this bill, there would be a contraction. Then this bill proposes to appropri ate fifty million dollars to put up ware houses or to issue not es, and the same objection could be urged to it, on the ground that was urged against the Force Bill, that the amount ofappro priation fixed in the bill is too indefi nate. Article 1, section 9, paragraph 7, of the Constitution says that no money shall be drawn from the treasury but in consequence of appropriations made by law. The Constitution is in the way of issuing money direct to the peo ple except by appropriation and why was this provision put there? It was by the wisdom, sagacity and fore thought of the framers of that wonder ful instrument, and was meant to throw the responsibility of appropri ating the public money where it prop erly belongs and where it ought to be on the representatives of the people. Tis bill would not stand before the Supreme Court. At this point Mr. J. L. Keitt asked how at>out the loan to the cotton expo sition at New O:-leans? Senator Butler replied that he was glad that question had been asked, and in reply said that the money for the Cotton Exposition at;New Orleans and the Exposition at Philadelphia was . appropriatio)n of Congress, and ould have been obtained in no other way, and was made under * he general wefare clause-that clause that Mr. Garland calls the blanket clause of the Constitution. Only by an appropria tion can any money be taken out of the treasury. The Secretary of War an't lend you a tent except Congress uthorizes it. Don't think Mr. Calhoun ever con emplated lending money out of the reasury dlirect to the people. His sub reasury scheme was a very different hing. There are sub-treasuries estab ished now for convenience in collect ng imports, and Mr. Calhoun's idea was to let these Issue treasury notes for onvenience in paying off expenses, ut not for the purpose of lending the oney to the people. What would you think of a proposi ion to lend money out of the State reasury at 2 per cent. to the people and for the State to take all risks, sustain all osses and make them good by taxing he people. My friend says this scheme was not itended to give special privileges to he farmers. God knows if it dont do tat then I am more opposed to it tbr ver, for if there is any class that need pecial favors it is the farmer class. There are three classes of people. One as never borrows nor lends. Another class has made money and does no care to invest it in mules and lands, bu prefers to lend it at a reasonable rate o interest. There is still another class. t< which unfortunately I belong, and tha is the borrowing class, but because belong to this class I don't say the mai who lends is a rascal. This latter clas may be divided into three classes. Firs a minn may find that he can mak, money by speculating and pay 10 to 1 per cent. for it. He is successful an< pays it back. Second, another ma; borrows, say at S per;cent., and mifrr tune overtakes him and prevents hin returning it, although he is honest an< wants to return it but can't. The thir class is the man who will borrow a any price and never pay back an< never intend to, and as a rule it is thi 'latter class who are wanting money a one per cent. At this point Mr. J. L. Keitt aske< Senator Butler if the government didu' lend money to national banks at one per cent. Butler said: "No, sir. Nationa banks buy their circulation from tb governmen'. The 1 per cent is a tax ii addition to the privilege already pail for th'r circulation." Senator Butler then gave a brief his tory of national banks and the necessi ty for their establishment under th then existing circumstances. He sai said they were organized to meet th necessity of an emergency precipitate4 by the war. Personally he was op posed to national banks because he be lieved, being organized during the pros ecution of the war, they were intende< to subservela temporary purpose. [A this juncture Mr. Keitt again renewe4 his question, and Senator Butler be coming a little riled, replied that h could furnish the facts but he could no furnish the understanding to compre bend them.] My friend says that:6 million dollars of gold bave been take; out of the treasury and sent to foreigi countries, and :hat the treasury i deplete and that this money has beer sent off to keep from paying the bond that mature iu September. I say t him that the cause of the depletion o the treasury is the extravagance of th last Congress in appropriating one bil lion dollars to pay pensions, and otbe appropriations. That is the cause o the shrinkage in tLe treasury. Senator Butler then said that he ha< some suggestions to offer as a remed, for the disease that was admitted t< exist. First. As an amendment to the sub treasury bill he would offer as a subst: tute the striking out after the enactin, clause all the provisions and the sub stitution of the Mills bill, which pro vided a reduction of taxation of fron 57 to 60 per cent. ad valorem to some thing like 40 per cent. The Allianci had their men up there at Vashingtor to look after the bill, but no mar ever approached me and asked mc t amend it, and it never came up befor( the Senate and I had no opportunit3 to offer any amendment. Sstne one said tariff didn't hurt. The Senato: replied that the duty on cotton ties ha< been raisea from about fety to 102 per cent. ad valorem. The second remedy. he would offe: would be a reductiop of the expense of the Government. . Instead of spend ing one billion dollars as the last Con gress did he would reduce the expense just one-half ani the governmen could get along sdmirably with tha amount. The third remedy offered by Senato: Butler was the repeal of the ten pe cent. tax on State banks of issue an( let State banks be established, and thi was no new idea of his, but he had ad vocated it as one of the first officia acts of his life as United States Senator He would go one step further,if he ha< the authority, although that could no be done by statute. He would not per mit bnt ten acres of cotton planted t< thepile, and would require the farm ers' to raise their own provisions a home for the next three years and it fdat time, under this policy, the: would have the whole country at thei knees. The farmers would be the bap piest, most independent and contente< people in the world. If the farmer: are not in such condition it is thei: own fault. Capt. Jno. F. Banks asked Senato: Butler if the sub-treasury was the onl; Alliance demand that he could not enm dorse. Senator Butler replied that it an< the government ownership of rail roads wereShe only two that be con. sidered as not good Democratic doc trines. Some one suggested that thbe de mand provided ownership, or control Thbe Senator replied thbat efforts ha< been made by the interstate commerce law to control the railroads. The more you can divorce the people from the government the better it is. Some one asked Senator Butler abou: the third party, and his reply was that there was no room in this country fo: a third p'rty and that there can onl: be two parties. When I hear gentle men talking about a third party ir this State, I am almost overwhelmet with pain. The Senator then paid at eloquent tribute to the IDemo cratic party, and said it repre sented home rule and loca self government, and be also gave brief history of parties in this country. He thought that with the next Con. gress 140 Democratic majority, and th< Senate almost equally divided, and good prospects of a Democratic Presi dent, there would be opportunity t< give the Democratic party a fair trial Senator Butler spoke for nearly tw< hours. He was enthusiastically re ceived and seemed to have captured the crowd from the very beginning. When his time was up the crowd in sisted that he should go on, and as the people were so anxious that he should continue, Mr. Sligh told him he coulc exceed his limit of one and a half hours He was constantly interrupted by questions, but always was ready witi an answer to his questioner. One man in the audience was con stantly plying the senator with ques tions and amongst others asked what the Democratic party has done in then last twenty-five years. Senator Butler replied: "My friend,il you have been living so far in the back woods that you don't know what then Democratic party has done, you had better-go home and try to learn some thing. I think, in fact, you would make a first class leader of the third party." The senator was frequently greeted with applause and seemed to have en tirely captured his audience, and then many questions caused his speech to take somewhat wider range than it -otherwise would have done. .DR. STOKES IN REPLY. Dr. Stokes in his rep)ly to Senator Butler was interrupted by the rain, but his speech was largely in reitera tion of the position taken by him in the opening. He said that he con fessed to some disappointment in the range the Senator had given to the dis cussion. He did not understand that they were to discuss any bill, but that they were to deal with the broad prin ciples underlying the scheme as con tained in the Ocala platform which D)r. Stokes read. That being the case Dr. Stokes claimed that he would have,to eliminate most of what Senator Butler had said. He thought the Senator should bave given the details of the plan he pro posed,inasmuch as he devoted so much time to the discussion of the details of a bill that the Alliance considered (ead. He controverted Senator Butler's po sition on State banks of issue. and said if experience was worth anything we ought to know that they would have to be adopted with great caution and carefully scrutinized. Thbey would not give a uniform cur rency, and this plan does not provide for a flexible currency, the very thing the Alliance is wanting above all others. Free coinage of silver did not touch t.he question. We did not want a financial system that would suit the fine financiers of the country, but one adapted to the use and benefit of the great mass of the t people. 1 The plan was to eliminate the specu i lator, contended Dr. Stokes. s Senator Butler interrupted at this t point and said that as long as human E nature remained as it was, men would speculate, and when they ceased, he would think that tie millennium had begun. Dr. Stokes contended that the pro ducts of the soil are virtually the bases I upon which all the commercial world 1 transacts its business. t He then quoted from Calhoun to sus i tain his position, formerly taken, that 3 Calhoun favored the sub-treasury t scheme, but the rain began and he went no further, and Mr. Sligh adjourned the i meeting for dinner, and announced t that Mr. W. J. Talbt-rt would speak e after dinner. TALBERT TALKS. We did not remain to hear the speech of Mr. Talbert, but understand that he undertook to reply to Senator Butler also, and was rather unfair and unjust in his strictures, inasmuch as the Seua tor was not present. This gave two e men the reply to his speech. We do not think we ever saw an au dience give more careful attentiou to public speaking than the one at Pros perity yesterday. Every 'one seemed to be anxious to hear and learn and get at the truth. This we consider a good and hopeful sign. t The people want to know the right and will do it when they are con - vinced that it is the right. This is a big and important question and it t would be a good idea to have the mat - ter discussed intelligently and dispas p sionately. Some gentlemen, who heard Mr. Talbert and conversed with him after wards say that he expressed himself strongly in favor of the Alliance de smands-so strongly, in fact, that if they could not be secured through the f Democratic party then he would be in e favor of the Alliance demands in some . other way-the formation of a third par r ty, for instance. f Well we do not believe the people of South Carolina are exactly ready for that step though they may be. These are strange times. The Herald and News has exerted eztra efforts to get up a full report of - this meetiog and ive, as far as p;sible, - an impartial-one, wihout comment. ANTI-"SUB"-ALLIANCE MEN. 1 Call f;r a State Convention Opposed to the Sub-Treasury Scheme. JACKSON, MIss., July 28.-W. S. Mc Alister, by authority vested in him as a member of the Southern Anti-Sub treasury League, recently held at Fort Worth, Texas, issued a call to-day for a State Convention, to be held in this city on August 19, to send delegates to a national convention of Alliance men who oppose the sub-treasury scheme r and the Third Party. The call invites all opposed to Ma . cunism and corruption, and denounces , political lepers who are seeking to divert order from its true course. Mc t Alister also to-day uromulgates a letter t from McDowell, of .'ennsylvania, writ ten' in December last to a pronsnent r Texas Alliance man named Middleton. r in which he says that Macune was whitewashing at Ocala. - FOR DYSPEPSIA, [ Indigestion, and Stomach disorders, use BROW1N'S IRON BITTERS. All dealers keep it, Si per bottle. Genuine has t;rade-mark and crossed red lines on wrapper. SGR AND EXCURSION! ON THE NEW ROAD ! Monday August 17! Clinton to CIlarI88ton! A GRAND AND GOOD TIME Train will leave Clinton at 5 a. mn., and returning leave Charleston at 9 p. mn. Fare for round trip: Kinards $2.90; Gary's Lane $2.85; Jalapa $2.80; New -berry $2.75; Prosperity $2.60. Slighs $2.35; Little Mountain $2.2.5. TraIn will stop at all stations along -the line. You will have ten hotrrs in Charles ton, which gives ample time to visitithe Islands and all places of interest. Good order will be preserved, and especial care will be given the ladies. Separate coaches will be provided for tue colored people. H. A. DICKERT. B. P. MEETZE. - NEWBEEEY, S. C. 'EXT SESSION OPENS OCTO .l9. bes, 1891, and ends June 1.5th, 89.Expenses are as follows: Board $9 amonth. Other necessary expenses,$2 to $6 a month. Total expense for session $119.50 to $149.50. Board from Monday noon~ to Friday noon, $52.5 a month. Ministers' sons are given tuition at half rates. Complete Business Department, in which are taught Boo k-keeping, Teleg raphy, Type-writing and Short-band. Expense of 4 months' session, $6.5 to $85. For catalogue or other information, write to G. W. HOLLA~N -. Presid. ROAD NOTICE. OFFICE OF COUNTY Co"rf3HSSIONERs NEWBERRY, S. C., July 28, 1891. A LL OVERSEERS ARE NOTI .2.fied to put their sections in good condition at once. They are also duly notified that the County Commissioners intend to enforce the provisions of the law as to the manner in which the. roads are to be worked, and as to mak ing returns after each working. By order. GEO. B. CROMER, --Clerk. JERSEYS FOR SALE. AFEW CHOICE HALF AND - .. three-quarter Jersey Heifers from No. 1 cows, also two thorough-bred bull calves, for sale. Write or apply to S.J. McCAUGH RIN, Innisfallen Dairy Farm. Notice of Final Settle- I ment. TWILL MAKE A FINAL SET ..tlement on the estate of Ida E. Crooks nee Counts in Probate Court of New berry County, S. C., on the 17thb day of August, 1891, and immediately thereafter apply for final discnarge as guardian of said estate. W3t. H. L ANE, Guardian. July 15, 1891. st. 00NM0AT TO LET. OFFICE OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, I N EWE ERRY, S. C., July 21, 1891 -MMBER OF THE BOARD .A of ounty Commissioners wil be at Chappei:s,August 12th, at 10 o'clock, j to let the contract for building a bridge across Saluda River at that place. Plans and specifications will be made T known at the time and place named. Bond with approved sureties will be r required. And the right is reserved toC reject all bids. By order of the Board of County ~ Commissioners. GEO. B. CRO3XER, Clerk. I <xlOur Sumnri Announefilent Rl> WE STILL HAVE ON HAND A SPLENDID ASSORTMENT OF : : : ; : : : : : : SPRING AND SUMMER CLOTHINC, SHOES, HATS AND GENTS' FURNISHING GOODS WHIGH WE WILL SELL CHEAP FOR CASH f UR STOCK OF THIN GOODS. CONSISTING OF ,ILPAC., SICII[lN, DRIP D'ETE IND SEERSICKER CO.ATS A.TD 73STS IS IMMENSE! ALL THE DIFFERENT CUTS---LONG, SHORT, MEDIUM. NECLICE SHIRTS IN PROFUSION IN ALL QUALITIES FROM THE PLAINEST AND CHEAPEST TO THE FINEST AND MOST BEAUTIFUL PATTERNS. DII Straw Hat TrIae Jias BBB IIense, ut WE STILL HAVE A NICE VAR. 'TY TO SELECT FROM. T O THE LADIES WE WANT TO STATE THAT OUR LINE OF ; ZIEGLER BROS.' O.SFO3D TI3ES ARE THE HANDSOMEST LOW CUT SHOES IN THE COUNTY. WE HAVE THEM IN PLAIN TOES AND PATENT LEATHER TIPS IN OPERA AND COMMON SENSE TOES. We will close out our entire stock of Boy's and Children's Clothing at prime cost from now on. Call early and get your choice before they are all gone. Yonrs sincerely, SMITH & WEARN. Grani Clearao Dale! SPRINC CLOTHING -AT BLALOCK'S CLOTHING HOUSE, NE W BERRY, S, C THIS SALE WILL LAST FOR; 30 DAYS. 1 SNow is Your Opportunity. MINTER & b <1JJAM1ESONi3 . --HAVE COMMENCED TIIEIR GLEARANCE SALE.1 -OF <3 SPRING / SUMMER GODS. Do This is a chance seldom offered to the public to secure genuine bargains. The balance of our Spring Clothing we havc~e marked down to cost and some below cost. Straw Hats to be Closed Out at Any Price. We do not believe in carrying goods over from one season to another and if you will call and examine our THE SHOE HOSE OFNEWBERRY. We have bought the largest stock of Shose for tbe fall trade that we have ever carried, and in order to make room for them, we will sell all SUMMER STYLES A T GREA TL Y HI DUCED PRICES. Do not miss this grand clearance sale. Come to see us and we will save you moncfuey. MINTE & JAMIESON, I.e acers of T.aOM7 EriCeu. ale of Unclaimed and' YHE KEWBRRY Refused Freight-. a in sB n OexsnDAv.F O AeGENr. {TS NOW OPEN FOR :BUSNS. NEWRERRY, S. C., J CLY 16, 1891- '. Deposits in sums of one dollar and ~HE :FOLLOWING FREIGHT upwards received ~nlinterest paid on .having been on hand at this agency same at the foui-t4) pier cent per - or over six months unclaimed and re- annum if I e,ceeding niniety dayse-...... used, will be sold if not removed on or 1 M taned on easy terms on Per efore Thursday, ,ugust 20th, 1891, to s l RealEsaeStc,Bnd,C he highest bidde1 for cash: a trals, etc. StcsBindCo- ) VIz. CHARGES. 1 Office at Wright's Bookstore for a . L. Coleman, 1 Grain Crad -- few days. . P. Cromier, 1 Spark er ....8 JAMES McINTOSH, E. M. Evans& Co., 2 ls. Vinegar 1.94| President. )..H.P. Fant,& So .. Bbls. Vinegar 1.98 B . H. WRIGHT, . E. Prince & Ce., 2 Bbls. Vinegar 1.98 Cashier. V. E. Pelham, 4 Bxs. Medicine 1..54 " 1 Bbl. Vinegar} ~ NOTICE. 11l & Houseal, I rinting 1 ress..:.28 NE EXAMINATION OF APPLI- - J. T. McGowan, :3 Trunks Clothes, LI.cants for Scholarships in the Win Bx. Glass, 1 Old Grain Cradle, I Was hlthrop T raining School will be held at tand, 1 Old Screw, 1 Bx. Fixtures, INewberry, in the School Commis Pully, 16 in., I Bdl. P. Castings, 2 sioner's office on Friday, July 31. sales Old Bagging, 2 D. Hides, i1) Bdls. The Applicant making the .highest >lows, 4 Spiders, 3 Skillets, i Bbl. Oil, will. receive the State Appointment Bdls. B. Ends, 4 Bed R?ails. equivalent to $15 for a session of nine W W. s. COGERS, Ag't. Applicants must not be less than _______________________eighteen yeasrsof age. 'HE STATE OF SOUT-H CARO- Examination will begin at 9 a. in., L INA, COUNTY OF NEWBERRY and close at 4AIp. U KILE -IN OMMN PLAS.County School Commissioner. lamilton H. Folk, et al., adoir's, against Elizabeth C. Lane, et al. DENTAL NOTICE. F HE CBEDITORS OF HAMPTON j TWOULD RESPECTFULLY AN LE. Buzhardt, deceased, are hereby |I. nounce to patrons and to the public quired to render and establish on ithat I am prepared to meet competition ath, before the Master, their respective in prices and every other respect. emands, on or before the first day of Office over C. & G. S. Mower's store. etSmILA JOHNSTONE, Master. IHE.JHNSTONE, Master's Office, 23rd July 1891-.etit