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- T A -- NEWBERRY, S. C., THURSDAY, MARCH 26, 1891.P T A LIASHED 1860.- ___- - THE COOSAW CASE. The State Cannot Consent to the Resump tion of Mining by the Coosaw Company Unless the Lessees of the State Are Permitted to Mine Also. [Special to the News and Courier.1 CoLUMBIA, March I8.-The phos phate commission met to-day at 1' i.; present, all the members. Senator Smythe came up to represent the Coo saw Company. Mr. H. A. M. Smith and Mr. F. E. Brotherhood also came up to-day and had a hearing before the board. The correspondent of the News znd Courier made a proposition that he be permitted to be present and take full stenographic notes of the proceedings, which would also be the property of the commission. Governor Tillman announced this proposition, stating that he personally had no objection. Senator Smythe also did not object. The objection was, however, made by members of the board that other news paper correspondents might ask the same privilege, and that colored and incorrect statements might go out to the press. Senator Smythe said that he had no objection to the presence before the commission of H. A. M. Smith and Mr. Brotherhood. The commission has so far given out all of its proceedings to the press, and the rule was not broken to-day. Attor ney General Pope either reads the minutes of the meeting to the report ers or makes an abstract of the same. The special business of the commis sion to-day was to consider the reply of Mr. Robert Adger to the last letter from the commission and also to hear Senator Smythe. The following is the letter of Mr. Adger: OFFICE OF THE COOsAw 31INING CO., Charleston, S. C., March 17, ISS1. Hon. B. R. Tillman, Governor and Chairman Board of Phosphate Com missioners, Columbia, S. C. Dear Sir-Your favor of the 16th in !stant, stating that the board were not -willing to arrange with the Coosaw Wining Company to resume operations under your supervision unless other companies were allowed to mine in the t rritory claimed by us, is received this morning. I regret that we cannot consent to the conditions imposed by the board. The proposition of the Coosaw Com pany was made in good faith as a busi ness offer, but to be entered into with out prejudice to the rights of any party. The issue in the case is whether the Coooaw Company has the continuing right to exclusively occupy the terri tory in Coosaw River. This right we are seeking to enforce in the courts. To consent, pending the litigation, to waive this right, and allow that to be done which w are asking to forbid, will, as I am advised, practically put us out of court. Another practical reason also governs our action. You must bear in mind that the million and a quarter of dollars royalty which we have paid the State repre sents that many tons of phosphate rock removed from Coosaw River, morle than the entire amount taken from all the rest of the State's territory. .This has, of course, seriously dimninirhed the original deposit. With careful management and pur suing the systern we have always fol lowed we hope that there is enough left to supply us our average production for a limited time to comne. But if other .companies are allowed to mine in it under general rights iicenses the result in a short time wvill be to ruin the re maining deposit. The damage to us would be irrepara ble, and we are sincere in saying that if such licenses are permitted to mine until the end of the litigation, expedite as we may, we would not care to ex pen-i the amount necessary to conduct the suit to obtain decree securing us the exclusive ' t we claim. As a prof of our sincerity in this opinio-ie oflered the board, before anLEtion was taken by them' in this S matter, the use of a complete mining plant with which to make such a sur vey and examination of our territory, under their uncontrolled supervision, as they might desire. We are sincerely desirous of making some arrangement with the hoard. It appears to us from your letter that this could be effected, but for the licensees referred to therein. We fail to see why their interest should be the cause of preventing a satisfactory adj ustament by which, pending the litigation, loss, both to the State and the Coosaw Com pany, could be avoided. I am yours very truly, Rouwr Am)nam, Chief Manager of the Coosaw Mining Company. Mr. Smythe was then heard, and afterwards Mr. H. A. M. Smith and Mr. Brotherhood appeared before the commission. At nearly 3 o'clock the commission took a recess until later in the afternoon, the impression left on the press being that the negotiations had been broken oft. The rock on which the negotiations were wrecked appears to be that the Legislature instructs the commission to perform a specific duty, i. e., to open up the Coosaw territory to miniers generally. Licenses have been granted to several companies to rmine in Coo saw territory under the act. and-the State cannot now revoke such licenses without impairing its obligations with its licensees. The genesis of the difficulty ante dates the phosphate commission. It is probably wasting time to criticise tihe pahost ommision, which is a creation of an act of the Legislature de firing both its powers and duties. Mr. H.. A. M. Smith, after the ses sion, would not or could not be inter viewed-most probably would not. Senator Sinythe said that the line of what he had to say was included in the above ktter. Mr. Brotherhood said that he would probably have a roasted duck for supper, which he said he would dichotontize, -o to speak, with this correspondent. The struthio camelus, however, does not usually sup on canards. AN OFFICIAL REPORT. Attorney General Pope, secretary of the phosphate commission, dictated the following to the representative of the News and Courier as the substance of the proceedings before--the morning and afternoon session of the phosphate commission: "The public has been apprised of the fact that Mr. Adger, chief manager of the Coosaw Company, had declined by telegram the proposition made to him by the board of phosphate commission ers of this State. In a letter received by the commission to-day and read be fore the commission, the line of thought of the telegram is enlarged upon. The proposition ti. . the Hon. A. T. Smythe be heard before the commission was acceded to, and Mr. Smythe appeared to-day and presented his views, the board hearing him with great atten tion. Mr. H. A. M. Smith also came before the board, after which an ad ,journment was had until the afternoon. At this latter session the following resolution was passed: "Resolced, That Governor Tillman, as chairman of the board, be requested to write a reply to the communication of Mr. Adger this day received. "The board also requested the Attor ney General of the State and his asse ciate counsel, Mr. George S. Mower, to take such steps as to the case now pending in the United States Court as will protect the interests of the State of South Carolina. The board then ad joutned." Governor Tillman said to-night that he would not write the reply of the commission to the Coosaw Company until to-morrow. In the light of the occurrences of to-day, however, it does not require much ratiocination to infer that it will be a letter of rejection of the overtures of the t oosaw Company. In fact, it was understood, from Senator Smythe before he left here this after noon that the proposition had been non-concurred in. It was learned also that Mr. H. A. M. Smith, who, he said, represents one of the licensees, appeared before the commissioners this afternoon, and that Mr. Smythe did not so appear. - Mr. Brotherhood, of the Carolina Company, which has license to dig in Coosaw territory, was asked what he proposed to do. He said that he pro posed to obey the law, and for the pres ent would not go up on the waters of Coosaw. From stray remarks made to-night it is learned that the attorneys for the State do not and will not admit the jurisdiction of the United States in the premises; so there's another brand-new howdydo. A ttorney General Pope can not be interviewed on the qluestion as to how he wvill act, as per instruction of the phosphate commission. The curious can now go ahead and guess whether the commission will take the bull bys tbe horns or the fish by the tail. MIr. H. A. M. Smith will leave Columbia for Charleston. His business before the commission, which was begun at the morning session, wvas con cluded in the afternoon at the Execu tive Mansion, where the second meet ing was beld. After hearing Mr. Smith the board went into private session and took the action stated above by Attor ney General Pope. As the case now stands the State will either file a demurrer to the jurisdic tion of the Federal Court, or answer the bill already in on its merits, nieither of whieb mxay be done until May. Of course, this is providling that no unu sual or summary process of settlement be em ployed by the phosphate comn GovER.NoR TILLI,MAN M1AKES THE RE PLYx To TH1E LETTER OF MiR. ADGER. (Cotu Ir mA, March 19.-By resolution of the board of phosphate commllissionl ers Governor Tilhuian wvas authorized to reply to the letter of Mr. Robert Adger, whose letter on behalf of the (oosaw C'ompany ws p)ublished to-day in the News and Courier. Governor Tillman wrot( this ultra ultimatum to night, of which the following is a copy: CoLu m lA, S. C., March 19, 1891. To Mr. Robert Adger, Chief Manager of the Coosaw Miniing Company, Charleston, S. C.: Dear Sir-Your letter of March 17 camne drtly to hand :i,d was submitted to the board of phosphate comnmission ers yesterday. We also held at confer ence with Mr. Smyvthe, your represen tative, in which the qjuestions at issue were fully and freely discuissed. There are in this case two main ob jcts to which the phosphate commiis sioni mrust dlirect its attention izi order the State's rights and interests. The issue is not wvhethier the Coosaw Company shall have a continuing right to exclusively occupy the terri tory in Coosaw~ River, as you say, but irst, whether the State has now, or shaldl ever have, powVer to raise the royalty on phosphate rock. Second. WNhet her the monopoly which would thus practically be given to tihe Con a Companyv shall be eon tinuted? i e (Coo'saw C'ompanv has "'a con tract" with the State of South.Caro deposit at $1 a ton, it is idle to think of increasing the royalty as against min ers outside of that river. And if the monopoly hitherto possessed by the Coosaw Company, by means of which it has practically ab sorbed the Sea Island Chemical Com pany and the Oak Point Mines Com pany, shall be allowed to continue, it is only a question of time when the other three companies will be forced to suspend operations or be likewise ab sorbed. The main question is as to the right to increase the royalty, for our obser vation of the mining around Beaufort has led us to believe that exclusive rights are not detrimental to the State's int,rests and that it would be best for the State and the miners were all the mining done by one company. I would call your attention to the fact that your offer to allow us the use of one of your dredges with which to test and make examination of the ter ritory hitherto occupied by you could not be accepted, because the offer in volved the payment by the State of the mining expenses and promised so little practical knowledge that we did not feel authorized to make such expendi ture. Whether there is much or little rock in the Coosaw River is not at present a matter for our cons&deration. Whether there is a variatlon in grade which re quires peculiar skill, possessed by your superintendent alone, to mine profit ably is not the issue. The ruinous lawsuit which your company has inaugurated, and the tenacity with which it fights for this territory, will rather influence men's opinions as to its -value. It was our earnest desire and hope to have saved the company from such loss and the State a decrease of revenue. But the question by your act has to be decided by the Courts, and neither the dignity nor welfare of the State could be main tained, as we see it, had we agreed to the proposal you made. Realizing how heavy must be the loss to your company in the deteriora tion of the plaut and disorganization of labor, we would further suggest that, pending the lawsuit, you take a license to mine outside of the disputed terri tory along with the other companies which have been driven out of Coosaw by the injunction of the United States Court, as it is possible you may thus make running expenses. This is not a disinterested uggestion, but it is made in good faith. Yours respectfully, ]5. R. TILLMAN. Governor and Chairman Board Phos phate Commissioners. IRONY AND INCONSISTENCY. [Special to The State.] CHARLESTON, S. C., March 20.-The Governor's answer to the Coosaw Com pany created considerable comment here to-day. The irony of it was en joyed and applauded, but the inconsis tency of its various portions was severe ly criticised. T1he Coosaw Company maintains a stiff' upper lip, to all ap pearances. BEEN VOTING SINCE MADIsON'S TIME And stopped Drinking Whiskey When He Was Eighty. PITTsBcRG, March 15.-Westerni Pennsylvania has some very old citi zens. Jacob Steel, of Masontown, Fay-i ette county, is 102 years old. He voted for James Madison, and has voted for every Democratic Presidential candi date since. Mr. Steel lives with his daughter, Mrs. Sally Bise, a well-pre served lady of 75. His age is authenti cated by his first marriage certificate and by the records of an old-time jus tice of the peace which are still extant. His first marriage occurred in 1812, when Mr. Steel was 24 years of age. HeI never used tobacco, but was a great whiskey drinker until his 80th year, when he stopped because the quality of the liquor sold then in Fayette County had so deteriorated that he could not drink it. He numbers among his descendants ten children, thirty-eight grandchildren, seventy great-grand children, and some of the fifth genera tion. Mr. Steel expects to vote for the Democratic candidate for President in 1892. The A pril number of Demnorest'sFam i!y~ Magazhne contains a splendid arti cle on Physical Culture, by Prof. E. B. Warman, A. M., giving a course of exercises, profusely illustrated, which will help everybody-man, woman or child - to acquire a graceful supple form, and without going to a gymna sium, or even spending acent for ap paratus. And this is not the only at traction of this excellent magazine: "The Land of Our Next Neighbor, The Care of Palmis in the Drawing-Room, How A rt Students Live in New York, G~rotesque Ways of Decorating Easter Eggs, Kite-Flying (for the boys), all handsomely illustrated, several capital stories, a fine article on~ Thinness-Its Causes anid Cure,by Susanna WV. Dodds, M. D., are a fewv of its other features, anl there 'are nearly three hundred illustrations, including a full-page water-color Easter card. As an all aroundl "family" magazine, this one cannot be beat: there is something in every number for father, mother, and every one of the children; and it is only $2 per year. Published by WV. Jen nings D)emorest, 15 East 14th Street, New York. When Macbeth ironically asked, "Cast thou minister to a mind dis eased?" he little knew that mankind would one day be blessed with Ayer's Sarsaparilla. I y rifyig the blood, this powerfu;.terative give'-4one and strength to every function and faculty NE_..DED IMPROVEMENTS. i1 The Report of the City Fathers of New berry on Water Works and Electric Lights. At a meeting of the citizens of the town, held January 22nd, 1S91, it was referred to the Mayor and Aldermen to ascertain and report to a future meet.- r iug, to be called by the chairman, the feasibility of having both water works and electric lights in the town of New berry. t According the Mayor and Aldermen have procured such information as they could with reference to the matter re ferred to them. Mr. Wm. C. Whitner, a competent civil engineer, and part owner of the t water works and electric plant of the city of Anderson, visited our town, made some surveys, and inspected the sources of water supply, and at the re quest of Council wrote the following1 communication: t 'In reply to your request to give you l some idea of the cost of a system of water works and electric lights for your t city, I beg leave to submit the follow ng: "A system of water works giving your city complete protection from fire t and furnish an abundant supply of water for domestic purposes would cost about $48,000. Sush a system would extend all over the city, and give pro tection through about 60 double nozzle hydrants. The ordinary pressure from the stand-pipe in the business portion f of the;town would be about 55 pounds, which would throw a stream 75 feet s high. The pumps would -be in dupli- t cate, and of such capacity as to furnish not less than four (4) hydrant streams. "A system of electric lights, furnish- r ing both arc and incandescent lights for streets and domestic lights, would 1 cost about. $15,000. Such a system would consist of duplicate machinery, and would be so arranged that the street lights could be operated indepen dent of domestic lights and vice versa. i "If both plants were combined so as to be operated together, they could be 9 built for $60,000, and this would be far f the most economical arrangement for operation. With both plants combined e you ought to be able to get your streets a lit by elictricity for about the same sum t you are now paying, besides giving y your citizens an opportunity to light their business houses and residences s with this convenient and superior c light. One of the greatest advantages t arising from combining the plants, is, t that your engineer is always at his -poat t during the night with a full supply of t steam, and can on a moments notice, put his pumps to work, in the event a there should be a large conflagration f exhausting the supply of water in the t stand-pipe and thus decreasing the ef- e fective pressure. This arrangement is e very desirable, and is apt to have con siderable weight with insurance com-( panies in reducing their rates."c Mr. J. L. Fitzgerald, a civil engineerr of Schenectady, N. Y., writes as fol-i lows: "The probable cost of a cheap systemi of water works for your city will be e about $40,000. This includes every- t thing. Should you wish a better fire protection than the above estimate will e effect the expenditure of $10,000 more c will give one of the best in the country. t The electric light plant will cost from $8,000 to $10,000, depending upon the number of lights and the system adopted." - The above estimates are based upon I the idea that the town would own and operate the plant. To do this the town i would have to issue bonds by act of th'e s Legislature covering the amount of $60,000, or whatever sum might be I agreed upon, thus entailing a tax for the yearly payiment of the in terest there .on, less such sums as might be realized E in the way of income from private con sumners after paying running expenses. What this income would be would de pend entirely upon the success with which the plant could be run, the amount of patronage from private con sumers, &c. It might be made so suc cessful as greatly to decrease tbe tax necessary to pay the interest on the bonds, but it is a question as to how 1 far mnunicipalities are prepared to oper ate such works successfully. Another, and possible a better plan by which we may have both electric lights and water works, is to give to some company a franchise for a numn er of years, granting them the exclu sive privilege for such number of years of operating such works, and contract- I ing on the port of the town to pay sot much each year for water and lights. ~ Such an arrangement exists at Aflder son, Spartanburg, and in other townst and cities of the State, and would cost our town anywhere from $3,500 to c $4,500 per year, decreasing possibly for n a numnber y<ars as the income of the company is increased by individual e consumers. An act of the Legislature ~ would be necessary to raise the incomet for this purpose as we now go to our charter limit in the matter of taxation. In this connection it will be well, probably, to read a proposition madec by Mr. Paul Hemphill to the town of c c Chester as illustrative of the idea above I advanced.e MfR. H EM PHI L L's PROPOSITION. f; STATE OF SoITTH CAROLINA, c COUNTY oF CH EsTEn. s To the Mayor and Wardens oIf the ti Town of Chester, in County of Ches- a ter and State aforesaid: i GENTLE3MEN: I, Paul Hemph ill, of the town and County of Chester and n State aforesaid, whose name is hereto ti attached, acting for myself and my ti assigns, herewith respectfully ask you ii to grant me, my heirs and assigns the ta folloineg p-rvileges, in return for n1 vhich I hereby make certain propo-) itions asspecified below : 1st. I ask the privilege to use the resent and future streets, alleys and horoughfares, of the town of Chester, . C., for the purpose of laying water Lud gas pipes, hydrants, laterals, checks rnd valves, and the erection of lamp osts for gas and poles or posts for car ying electric wires and lamps for light .nd wires for connections and power. 2nd. In consideration of the great xpense we will be obliged to incur and he improbability of such works paying .nything above expenses for some -ears to come, and the benefit and sav ug it will be to the citizens by reduc og the rates of insurance, and also in onsideration of the further sum of wenty-five dollars which I will pay o the town of Chester, S. C., on de nand, I ask that this privilege be made xclusive for thirty (30) years and that he property and works which I or my ssigns may erect in connection with he conduct of the said works, be re eased from all town taxation for the eriod of five years from their comple ion. Furthermore, that when the as mains are laid or the electric light vires are placed, and either or both lants are running, the town will agree o use either the one or the other or oth, as the case may be, to light the treets, alleys or thoroughfares in >lace, as far as possible, of the present asoline lamps, provided the light fur tished by me or my assigns is good. 3d. Whenever excavations are made or the laying of pipes, laterals, by rants or posts or poles on any of the treets; alleys or thoroughfares of the own, the said streets, alleys or thor ughfares shall ' left in as good con ition as before the excavations were nade. 4th. On the granting of these privi eges, a charter under our State laws vill be applied for, and a joint stock onpany will be organized to be known s the Chester Water, Light and Power ,ompany, for the purpose of supply ug the Inhabitants of the town of hester with water, lights and power. 'he water to be used for general and ire purposes, the lights to be either as or electric or both, to be used ither for public or private purposes, nd the power either to be gas or elec ric, to be used for any puroose to hich such power may be appli:d. 5th. In the forms*i,n of the joint tock company the citizens of the town f Chester shall have for 30 days after be books of subscription are opened he right to subscribe to the stock of ie company before outside'subscrip= ions shall be received. 6th. Should work not be commenced n construction within twelve months rom the granting of the charter then his priviege shall be null and void, therwise to remain in full force and ifect. 7th. Should the town at any time luring the exclusive privilege granted, lesire to own the plant or plants that aay be erected by me or my assigns, Smay acquire the same by paying for 5., at a valuation to be fixed by arbi ration of three experts, one of whom Sto be chosen lay the Town Council, ne by mie or my assigns, and the bird by the other two. 8th. That I, my heirs and assigns, bail have two years within which to omplete for use the water works and ne or the other plants for use; and hat I, my heirs or assigns, shall have bree years from the granting of the rivilege with which to complete the lant for the other light work and lower, and that in case said plant is Lot completed within the three years, hat the privilege as to that light and >ower shall lapse for non uses, and hat I, my heirs and assigns, shall fur ish water and lights at rates com men urate with the rates charged for said later and lights by other companies vith like privileges by other towns of ike size in this State. PAtL HEMPHILL. At the request of Council two civil ngineers have examined the sources of rater supply for the town, and both gree that either branch of Scott's :reek, striking them at a point above he town so as to avoid contamination, vill furnish an abundance of water, nd a committee of Council who visited he city of Anderson while investigat ag this question reports that the water upply for tbat city comes from a creek Lke in size and location to Scott's :reek, and that the water works in nderson seems to be very successful nd quite satisfactory to the citizens. ~he only other source of water supply Sfrom artesian wells, or a system of riven wells, but as to the cost of these le have been unable to get any defi ite information for the reason that we ave no such wells in our section of be country. If our water supply could e had from such wells it might prove inch more acceptable than water from de creek, or from any other surface urce. The difficulty is as to the un ertainty of procuring it, and the prob ble largely increased cost. As before said, a committee of Coun il visited the city of Anderson. This :mm'ittee was highly p)leased with ie water works. The city is lighiLed y the incandescent system of lighting hich, while far superior to the old 'stems of lighting by lamps, did not >mne up to the expectations of the :mmittee, and the committee was im ressed with the fact that arc lights, specially on the more public thorough res, would have been far better. A nmbination, if p)ossible, of the two ~stmi would be better-the arc lights >be usedl mainly for street lighting, nd the incandescent light for build igs. The Counc'il has receivedl a vast num umber of conmmunications from par es interested in wvater works and elee 'ic lights, but none of theum cot in iformation more defllinite thani is con ined in this report. Respect fully sub itte by 'lir COUNCIL. 1 GEN. WADE HAMPTON. Candid and Interesting Talk With a Col ored Journalist. [New York Sun.] PETERSBURG, Va., March 16.-As the Coast Line limited express slowly crawled out of the Baltimore and Poto mac depot at Washington the other morning, I became conscious of two in teresting facts, Gen. William Mahone of Virginia, and Gen. Wade Hampton of South Carolina were passengers with me. Further, I found to my sur prise that Gen. Wade Hampton and myself occupied the same section in the Pullman sleeping car. Gen. Ma hone and his family occupied the se6 tion opposite to us. He got off at Al exandria. He does not spend much time at his Petersburg home now, but he lives at the national capitol and makes frequent excursions to Alexan dria. Every one with whom I have conversed appears to believe that the political grip of the famous Readjuster has been loosened, and color is given to this opinion by the fact that he is no longer active in affairs in the Fourth Congress district, where there is war to the knife between him and Col. James D. Brady, the Collector of Internal Revenue and member of the National Republican Committee, and Congress man John Langston, whom the black and colored voters swear by. Gen. Mahone does not appear to have grown old fast during the past eight years. His long hair and expan sive beard are slightly streaked with gray, but his step is quick and light, and he seems on mighty good terms with himself. His overcoat was heav ily fringed with black fur; he wore a cream colored slouch hat, and his gai ters were low cut, setting off his very small foot and exceedingly high instep. After we passed Alexandria I took my seat by the side of Gen. Wade Hampton and asked him if he would talk on general politics, as he had just terminated his long Senatorial career. He was not at all averse. He is a very venerable and dignified looking man. His snow white hair, Burnside whis kers, and black slouch hat gave him a patriarchal appearance. He wore a suit of gray. "I am in favor of free coinage of sil ver," he said. "It should be of the full standard measure, however. I don't think the silver question will be one of the leading questions in the campaign next year. I think the next Congress will dispose of the matter. There is sucn a general demand for legislation favorable to silver that it cannot be dis regarded. No; I do not think it will play much of a part in the next cam paign." "What about the Farmers' Allience?" "Well, it will not amount to much in the politics of the future, because its schemnes are impracticable and because it is manipulated by demagogues. I bave always been in favor of the farm ers having more organizations among themselves for their own benefit. I am a farmer myself and naturally sym pathize with the farmers. I want to see them prosper, and am in favor of any organization among th'em that will eff'ect this result. I do not think that anything in this line can be ac complished by the Farmers' Alliance. On the contrary, I think that it will work great damage to the interest of the farmers. The legislative relief they seek is class-legislatiQn of the simplest kind, and that sort of legislation is always objectionable on general prin ciples and at variance with our methods of government." "What in fiuence would such legisla tion as the Farmers' Alliance demand have upon our system of government." "If it were possible to conceive of any such legislation as the Sub-Treasu ry, the bonded warehouse, and other schemes, it would inevitably lead us into endless confusion and ultimately bankruptcy. There could not possibly be any other result from it. But it dloes not seem probable tome that any such legislation is at all possible." "General, 1.ow do you account for the fact that the South, which has al ways been opposed to class legislation and paternalism in government, has gone mad over the Farmers' Alliance schemes?" "I cannot explain the matter." Sen ator Hampton replied. "The farmers have bad a hard time of it during the past few years. They have not made any money. They are burdened with :lebt. They want relief, and, unfortu nately, imagine that they can secure it rrom the general Government." "What infiuence will the Farmers' Alliance exercise upon the Presidential dection next year?" "Very little, if any. National elec :ions are only affected by national ssues. The issues raised by the Alli tuce are local and class rather than na ;ional. I do not think the Presidential luestion of next year will be materially tffected by any action the Farmners' Xlliance may take. The fight will be etween the two old parties, as usual." "Has your experience in the Senate >een a pleasant one?" "Well, yes; very pleasant. I do not >elieve there is a Republican in the 5enate who does not regret that I have >een displaced, especially among the >lder ones. My relations with both hides of the Senate have been most ~ordial. I think my record has been mnique in at least one respect. Of the ;o measures reported by me, as Chair uan of the Committee on Military Xihirs, not one of them was acted I pou1 adversely by the Senate. "What are my future plans, politi .ily? I have none. I have done with whlir. fiairs T must now look after my personal affairs, which have been long neglected." But the leading newspapers in your State nominated you for Goveenor the moment Irby was nominated to suc ceed you in the Senate." "I know that. But I am not a can didate. I have never been a candidate for anything. I never asked a man to vote for me. I have not sought public honors." "But you have the confidence of the people of South Carolina. If they in sist upon your accepting the guberna torial nomination, what then?" "This looks like Constance's Neck," replied Gen. Hampton, "and that house there, near the Potomac, looks just like the one where I had an interesting ex perience during the war." "What wr... .he incident, General?" "Well, the same old story; a spy. I had a man who wanted to cross the Potomac, but I didn't know how to get him over. Well, just then, a man came in and reported that a spy had crossed the Potomac in the early morning. We made diligent search for him, with but little success, and we were about to give it up when we found him locked up in a box under a bed in the house we have just passed. We forced him to disclose the hiding r lace of the boat in which he had crossed the river, and we used it to send over our man who wished to reach the other side." "What became of the spy?," I asked. "I sent him to Richmond. I don't know what became of him, but I ex pect he was-That is a pretty view of the river." "Presidential candidates? Well, if New York goes to the Convention with a solid delegation it will get the nomi nation; if not the nomination will go to the West." "What Western man have you in your mind's eye?" "Oh, none in particular. The most obscure man in a break away from the favorites usually captures the honor." "What do you think of Gov. Camp bell of Ohio, Gov. Gray of Indiana, ex-Congressman William R. Morrison, and Gen. John M. Palmer of Illinois?" "They are all good men; but I have nothing to say is to their candidacy, further than if New York does not pre sent a solid front in the convention the nomination will go to a Western man." "What about the Speakership of the next House?" "I think it would be a mistake to elect( a Southern man as Speaker. I think some good Northern or Western man should be selected. I think the Democratic party made a great mis take in the Fiftieth Congress by elect ing a Southern man as Speaker of the House and by giving the principal chairmanship of committees to South ern men. Again,I think the Democratic party made a mistake in the campaign ofl1888 byfiooding the North withSouth ern speakers. It is a bad policy. The voters resent it. If Northern speakers should be sent into the South we should resent it. We know more about our own affairs than outsiders do. I think the Northern voters resented the fact of our sending them Southern speakers to instruct them in 1888. "Then you are not in favor of elect ing a Southern man Speaker of the House of the Fifty-second Congress. "Emphatically no." "What is your opinion of the future relations of the races in the South?" "Most hopeful. I1 agree with the re cent opinion of Senator Carlisle that there will be less and less of friction be tween the races; that they will come more and more to understand the mu tuality of their interests, and that they will more and more co-operate together for the common good. In my own State the coloreed people have great respect for me, and in any division of votes, caused by the position of the Farmers' Alliance, I am sure that the best elements among the colored peo ple would co-operate with the best ele ments among the white people." "That being the case, would you not feel it a public duty to accept the Gu bernatorial nomination if offered to you?" "I must straighten out my personal affairs," replied the General; and he really looked as if he wished not to be called upon to make other sacrifices prejudicial to his personal interests. "No; I have no regrets in leaving public life. I have tried to do my du ty. My relations with colleagues in the Senate have been most pleasant. My public life all the way through has been regulated by a strict regard for the exactions of the duty imposed upon me, and I cannot but feel that I have always labored for the public good, ac cording to my light." As the cars sped away southward I could not but think pleasantly of the fine old type of Southern gentleman. T. THoMAs FORTUNE. The Wrecked Locomotive. LColumbia Record 20th.1 Locomotive "No. 252," a coal burner, which was wrecked on the C.& G. Road about fourteen miles above Columbia by running into a washout some days ago, was brought to the city this morn ing and will be placed in the Richmond and Danville shops here at once for re p airs. WVhen Master Mechanic Green's force get to work on the 252 it won't be long before she will be in first class running trim and be making her regu lar trip over the road again. Tbe loco m]otive is not near so badly damaged as was at first supposed. For the cure of colds, coughs, and all derangements of the respiratory organs, no other medicine is so reliable as Ayer's Cherry Pectoral. It relieves the asthmatic and consumption, even in advanced stages of disease, and has endinnrr:rale lives. GEORGIA CENTRAL GONE. The Richmond and West Point Terminal Octopus Scoops it in. [From the New York Sun.] A rumor exists in Atlanta for the last few days to the effect that a large move ment was on foot as to the disposition of the Central Railroad of Georgia. It is said that the Terminal Company will. lease the Central for 99 years. Pat Cal houn will go to Savannah this week and will discuss the matter with the officers and directors of the Central Railroad there and with Gen. Alex ander. On the rumor that the road would be leased for 99 years, the stock, which has heretofore been selling from 110 to 112. has advanced to 118 and 119. There is no doubt that the subject of the lease is now under discussion, and the terms proposed guarantee 7 per cent. net on the stock of the Central payable semi-annually. It is under stood that the lease will be made under the name of the Georgia Pacific road instead of the Terminal Company. This will make a continuous line from Savannah to the Mississippi River at Greenville where the road will connect with the Gould system and with their. roads running direct to the Pacific Ocean. It is not improbable that solid trains will run from Savannah to the Pacific coast within six months. It-is understood that Mr. Gould is very much in favor of the lease, and says It will be a greai move toward the devel-. opment of Savannah as a great port. This will also give a short line from *.:< Savannah to Washington via Augusta. THE -DEAL MADE. SAVANNA H, March 18.-The lease o the Central Railroad of Georgia to the _ Richmond and West Point Terminal Company in the name of the G-eorgia Pacific Railway was practically decided upon at a meeting of the Central Rail road directors here to-day. The Termi - nal's proposition was discussed and referred to a committee, which agreed upon the terms of the lease to-night, The lessees will take the road and as sume its indebtedness, and-wlll.guar antee the stockholders 7 per cent on the - capital stock, which Is $7,500,000. John. H. Inman, Hugh Inman, SamuelUzn man, John C. Calhoundat.-Calh Charles H. Phinizey and Mr. Swan, of: New York, were at the meeting to-day President Inman left here to-night for Augusta. He will be in New York,<> next week, where the lease will be coen sumated. It is said to-night thatevery thing will be transferred in about tw .:"= weeks. The lease of the Centratiifl % will give the Georgia Pacific a through line from Savannah to the Miisspph River. AN INTERESTING RAILROAD RUMOE [Special to News and Courier.] COLUMBIA, March 18.-A trustwor thy visitor from the Peidmont is an thority for the statement that there fa - something specially noteworthy now in progress with the Richmond and Dan ville and the Georgia Central railroads--' He believes that Capt. S. V. McBee, president of the Richmond and Dan-4' ville, is about to be elevated to evena higher position than that which he n6c2 so ably fills. He says that the visit of 32 Capt. McBee to Georgig, which wfas reported recently in the News sn&$ Courier from Columbia, means agreat deal. Capt. McBee, he says, visited Au ' gusta and was to leave Atlanta to-night. for Asheville. He said that one of the shippers in Greenville said that the instructions now were that it makes no difference to the local agents whether goods be shipped by the Richmond and Dan ville or by the Georgia Centrah This, he said, means something, as he under stood and others understood that there has been business rivalry between thei roads. The information of the infor mant is that Mr. Inman is to get the place now held by Mr. Cecil Gobbett, ' 'and that Capt. McBee is to be given a position to include the business direc tion of the Georgia Central and the Richmond and Danville. There may not be anything in the logic of the deductions, but it is interesting all the same. La Grippe Attacks e50 Soldiers at Ones. j MINNEAPOLIS, Marcli, 13.-A special to the Tribune from Omaba says: "250 soldiers at Fort Omaha are down with la grippe. The hospital is filled with - sick men." 4,000 DowN WITH THE GRIP. PITTsBURG, March 20.-The grip is thoroughly epidemhic in Pittsburg and fully 4,000 eases are reported. Several of the most prominent physicians are fllaicted, and at every business firm numbers at least one down with the disease. A mong those whose death can be directly attributed to grip is Alder man Cassidy, well known in city affairs, who died to-day. The disease is far more aggravated than ever known here. Again the Belied Buzzard. [ From the Philadelphia Press.] LANCASTER, March 8.-The famu "belled buzzard," which has been seen in various sections of the coutry, as far south as Georgia, has made its appear ance in the lower end of tiiis county. Willam .iohnsdi of Eartic and Jacob Stuck and Benjamin Miller of Provi dence township saw the bird and dis tinctly heard the tinkling of the belL. State Exclusion of Chinese in California. SACREMENTO, March 13.--In the As ~embly yesterday the anti-Chinese bill passed by avote of 49to5. It provides or certificates.of resid~eiet~ Chinese ' 2ow in the State and the- exclusion -of dil others. Theabill hash y passed