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$1 a Month, in Advance. ''Let our just Censure attend the tmo Even*."-Shaksprare. Single Copies Five Cents By J. A. SELBY. . COLtJMBIA, S. C., FRIDAY MORNING, MAY 19, 1865. VOL. l.-NO. 43. USB COLUMBIA PHONIX, PUBLISHED DAILY, EXCEPT SCNDAT, *. BY JULIAN A. SELBY. TERMS-IN ADVA NC E. . SUBSCRIPTION. ^ix months, - - - - . f?5 One month, - . - - - 1 ADVERTISING. 'One square, (ten lines,) une time, 50 eta Subsequent insertions. - 35 cts Special notic(#ten cents per line. Interview between the President and the South Carolina Delegation-the President's Policy. WASHINGTON.-June 24, 1S65.-A delegation from Soul h Carolina, con- . Histing of the following named persons, had late this afternoon an interview, 3y appointment, with the President: Judge Frost, lanac E. Holmes, Geo. VV. Williams. W. H. Giililand, J. H. Steinraeyer, Frederick Richards, Wm. Whaley, James H. Taylor, William J. Grayer, and Juseph A. Yates. The President' said that it was his intention to talk plainly, so there rdight be no misunderstanding. There? fore it were better they should look each other full in the face, and not imitate the ancient augures, who, when they met one-Another, could smile at their success in deceiving the people. He said if this Union was to be pre? served it must be on the principle of fraternity, both the Northern and Southern States maintaining certain relations to the Government. A State cannot go out ot the Union, and, therefore, none of them having gone cult, we must deal with the question of restoration, anil not reconstruction. Ile suspected that he was a better States Rights man than some of those now present, Mr.Ho'mcs-You always so claimed to be. (Laughter.) The President replied that he al? ways thought that slavery could not be sustained outside of the Constitu? tion of the United States, and that whenever the experiment was made it would be lost. Whether it could or could not, he was for the Union, and if slavery set itself up to control the Government, the Government must triumph and slavery perish. The in stitution of slavery made the issue,' and we might as well meet it like wisc and patriotic and honest men. All institutions must be subordinate to the Government, and slavery has given way. He could not if he would re? matad it to its 'former status, ile knew that some whom he now ad? dressed looked upon him as a great people's man and a radical. But how ever unpleasant it might bo to them, ne had no1 hesitation in saying that before and after he ent .red public life he was opposed to mono'polies and perpetuities and entails. For this he used to be denounced as a demagogue. We had a monopoly South in slaves. Though he had bought and held slaves, he had never ?old one. From Magna Charta we had derived our ideas of freedom of speech, liberty of the press and unreasonable searches, and that private property should not be taken for publie uses without just compensa? tion. He had these notions fixed n his mind, and was therefore opposed to claps legislation. Being providen tinily brought to his present condition, he intended to exert the power and in? fluence of the Gnvernment so as to plate in power the popular heart of this nation. He proceeded on the principle that the great manses are not the mush? rooms about a stump, which wet weather supplies. Ue believed that this nation was sent on a ?rest mission -to afford an example of freedom and substantial happiness to all the Powers of the earth. The Constitution of the United States, in speaking of persons to be chosen as Representatives in Congre ;s, says that the electors in each StAte shall have the qualifications requisito for electors of the most numoro ;? brauch of t!-o Stato ? ogiabv ture. Here we find n resting-plsce. This was the point at which the rebel? lion commenced. . All the States were in the Union, moving in harmony; but a portion of them rebelled, and* to some extent suspended ?and paralyzed the operations of their Governments. There is a constitutional obligation resting upon tbe United States Go? vernment to put down rebellion, sup? press insurrection and to Tepef inva- < sion. The slaves went into the war as slaves, and came ont as free men of color. ' The friction of the rebellion has rubbed out the nature and charac? ter of slavery. The loyal men who were compelled to bowVnd submit to the rebellion .should, now that the re? bellion is ended, stand equal lo ?oyal men everywhere. Hence the wish of restoration and the trying to get back the States to the point at which they .formerly moved in perfect harmony. He did not intend to serve aoy par? ticular clique or interest". . He would say to the delegation that slavery is gone as an institution. There was no hope that the people of bou til Caro? lina could be admitted into the Senate or the Hotise of Representatives until they had afforded evidence by tljoir conduct of this truth. The policy, now that the rebellion is suppressed, is not to iestrore the Stnto Government through military rule, but by the people. While the war has emanci? pated slaves, it <ims emancipated a larger number of white men. He would talk plain, as the delegation had said that was what they desired. Ho could go to men who had owned fifty or a hundred slaves, and who did not care as much for the poor wliite man as they did for the negro. Those wdio owrf the land have- the capital to employ help, and therefore some, of our Northern friends are deceived when they, living afar off, think they can exercise a greater control over the freedmen than the Southern men who have been reared where the insiitu lion of,slavery 1ms prevailed. Now he did not want the late slaveholders to control the negro votes agaiust. white men. Let each State judge of the depository of its own political power. He was for emancipation. Ho was for emancipating the white ma.. ?is well as the black. Mr. Holmes asked:-Is not that al? together accomplished? The President replied that he did not think the question fully settled. The question as to whether the black man shall be engrafted in the Consti? tution will be settled as we go along. He would not disguise the fact that while he had been persecuted and de? nounced at the South as a traitor, he loved the great mass of the Southern people. He opposed the rebellion at its breaking out, and fought it every, where, and now wanted the principles of the Government carried out and maintained. Mr. Holmes interrup!ed by saying: We want to get back to the same po sition as you-describe, as we are with out law, no courts are open, and you have the power to assist us. The President replied that the Go? vernment cannot go on unless it is ba*ed on right. The people p South Carolina must have a Convention, and amend their Constitution by abolish? ing slavery, and this must be d?ne in good laith, and the Convection or Legislature must adopt the proposed amendment to the Co'.stiiution of the United States, which prohibits and excludes slavery everywhere. One of the delegates said: 'We are most anxious for civil rule, for wo have had more than enough for military despotism.' The Presiden^ resuming, said that as the Executive he could only take tiie initiatory steps to enable them to do lbe> things which it was incumbent upon them to perform. Another o[ the delegates remarked that it was Resumed in some parts of the country jijat in consequence of the rebellion tho ^?ntberr)"*6tateb bad for felted their rights as members of the Confederacy, and that if restored it could only be on certain conditions, one of which wa? that slavery shall be abolished. This could be done only through a Convention. The President replied that the friction of the rebellion had rubbed slavery out, but it. would be better so to declara by law. As OD? of the dele gates had just remarked that the Con? stitution of South Carolina did not * establish slavery, it were better to insert a clause antagoni?tio to slavery. Judge Frost ?aid, substantially: The object of our prayer is the appoint? ment of a Governor. Thc State of South Carolina will accept these con ditions in order that law and order may bo restored, and that enterprise and industry may be directed to use? ful ends. We desire restoration a9 soon aa possible. It is the part ol wisdom to make the- best cf circum? stances. Certain delusions have been dispelled by the revolution; among them that slavery is an element of political strength and moral power. l[ is very certain that the old notion respect? ing State rights, in the maintenance of which those who made ihe rebellion in South Carolina erred, has ceased to exist. Another delusion, viz: that cotton is king, has likewise vanished in mist. We are to come back with these notions dispelled and with a new system of labor. The people will cordially co-operate with tho Govern? ment in making that labor effective and elevating tho negro as much as they can. It h, however, more a work of time than the labor of enthusiasm and fanaticism. The people of the South have the largest interest in the question. We ate willing to co operate for selfish, if for no higher motives. We have taken the liberty, encourag? ed by ^your kindness, to throw out suggestions by which the policy 0/ the Govern nient will be most surely and effectually subserved. I repeat that the new system of labor is to be inaugurated by sober, sound and dis? creet judgment. Tire negroes are Ignorant. Their minds are much inflamed with liberty. They are apt to confound liberty with license. Their great idea is, I fear, that freedom con? sists of exemption from work. We will take in good faith and carry out your, intention with zeal, and hope for the best; and none will rejoice .more than the people o? the S^uth if emancipation prove successful. Free? dom to tho slave is freedom to the master, provided you can supply a motive for industry. The people of South Carolina, from their fidelity to honor, have submitted to great sacri fices; they endured all. Wo are de? feated and coiiquereu by the North, j who are too strong for us. The same good faith which animated them in the contest will not be lound wanting in their pledge ot loyaly support to the Government. There may grow out of this blessings which you have not foreseen, and some pleasing rays now illumine the horizon.. I suppose the oath of allegiance will be taken with as much unanimity in South Carolina as anywhere else, and we will submit to the condition of things, which Providence has assigned, and endeavor to believe All discords harmony not understood, And partial evil universal good. ' We cheerfully accept the measures recommended, aud would tbapk you to nominate at your convenience a Governor to carry out the wishes you have expressed. President Johnson asked thc dele? gation to submit whom they would prefer to have as Proviso-al Governor. To this they ie died they had a list of five men, viz: Aiken, Mcllliley, Boyce, Colonel Manning, late t-rover nor, and B. F. Perry. All of them were spoken of as good men, but who had been more or less involved in the rebellion. Mr. Perry waa a District Judge in the Confederacy, until a few weeks befbro it ro'tapsed and r paid to have always been a good Union man and a gentleman -ol' strict integrity. The( people certainly would respect him, and he could not fail to be ac? ceptable. The President said he knew Benja? min Perry well, having served with him in Congress. There was no spirit of vengeance or vindictiveness on thc part ol the Government, v?nose only desire was to restore the relations which formerly existed, ile was not, now prepared to give them an answer as to whom l;e should appoint. But. st tho? Cabinet meeting 'next Tuesday he would repeat the substance of this interview, with a hope to tho restora? tion which the gentlemen present earnesdy desired. The delegates seemed to be much pleased with the proceedings, and lingered for a -rrTe time to individually converse with the President. TABLE VARIETIES iS-ORTEI) CANDIE.-?, ri Figs, Raisins, Ruck Candy, Almonds, Buttsr 2"*uta. Julv 6 ZEALY. SCOTT & BRUNS. JUST RECEIVED PER STEAMER GRENADA! "V i ci Gr rantoY! ALARGE stock of French CORSETS. Ladies'SHOES, HOSIERY and PA? RASOLS. Call at H. SOLOMON A CO.'S. Assembly street. West, below Plain. July G FISH FOR THE TABLE. KITS MACKEREL, " SALMON, Pickled Scotch Herrings. July 6_ZEALY. SCOTT & BRUNS. SUSPENDEIS. C0L1JVR>. ^ L. C. HANDKERCHIEFS. And a variety "of DRY GOODS, for Ladies and Gentlemen. July 6 ZEALY, aCOTT & BRUNS. Gen. Sup ts Office C- & S. C. RTR.^ ^ ^ CHESTER, JULY 3, 1865. T TNTIL further notice, trains will be run vj daily on this road, as follow*: Leave Chai lotte at 8 a m.; arrive at Adger'a about 4 p m. Leave Adger'a at 7 a. rn.; arrive tn Charlotte about?:* p. m. JAMES ANDERSON, ,Sup't. July 6 12 Lost, BETWEEN thc Catholic Church and the College Campu?, a large GOLD CHAIN, which the finder will be rewarded by leaving at Mr. C. J. BOLLIN'S, oj.po site Catholic Church. July 3 COLUMBI A MALE S^W?L~~ rpiIE exercise of this SCHOOL, for ?he -JL second session of 1865, will commence on the 17ih of July, in the Sunday School Room of the Marion Street Methodist Church, the temporary use of which nehcol room has been secured by the principal. The numher of scholars will be limited. Compliance with the regulations .>f the school and close attention to study are required, arid will be exacted, of every pupil. Tuition will be at the rate of %.>() per session of five months, payable by half sessions F. W. PAPE, Principal. July 3 :i* AMNESTY^ THE TERMS OF PARDON. Proclamation by the President of the United States of America. Whereas the President of the United States, on the 8th day of December. A. I). 1863, and on the 26th day of March, A. D. 1864, with the object to suppress the ex? isting rebellion, to induoe all pe.-sons to return to their loyalty and to rectore the authority of the United States, ?SAUC pro? clamations offering amnesty and pardon to certain persons who had, directly or by implication, participated in the said rebel? lion; and whereas many persons, who had so engaged in 6aid rebellion, have, since the issuance of said proclamation, failed or neglected to take the benefits offered thereby; and'whereas many persons, who have been justly deprived of all claim to amnesty and pardon thereunder by reason of their par.icipation, directly or by im? plication, in said rebellion and continued hostility to the Government of the United States since the date of said proclamation, now desire to apply for and obtain amaes ty and pardon; T? tho end, therefore, that tins sn th er i tv of tbe Government of the United State? may be restored, and that peace, order and freedom may be celnblished, I, Andrew Johnson, President ot the United States, do proclaim and dec?ate that I hereby grant to all persons who have directly or indirectly participated in the existing rebellion, except as hereinafter excepted, amnesty and pardon, with restoration of all rights of property, except as to slaver, and except in cases where legal proceed- ' ings, under the laws of the United Staten providing for the confiscation of property of persons engnged in rebellion, have been institute;!, but or, the c<?ndit!on, neverthe* . lei-s, that every snell person shall take and subscribe the following oaih or nfrirma r.ior, and thenceforward keep and inu.n tain said oath inviolate, and which onth shall be negistered f<>r permanent f reser? vation, and shull be of the tenor and effect following, to wi': I,-, do solemnly swear or affirm, in presence of Almighty God, that I- wiii henceforth faithfully supp"brt and defend the Cott3t.itutiou of the United States anti the Union of the States there? under, and that I will in like manner ahide by and faithfully support all laws and proclam?t ons wliich have been made during the existing rebellion with refer? ence to the emancipation of slave?, ot? ho lp nie God. The following ciaea of persona are ex? empted.from tho benefits of this procla? mation: 1st. \U who arc, or ahall have beeD, pretended civil or diplomatic officers, or otherwise, domestic or foreign agents ol the pretended Co'ifedersto Government. 2d. All who left judicial stations under the United States to aid in the rebellion. 3d. All who shall have been military or naval officers of said pretended Confede? ra! c Government above the rank of colonel in tho army or lieutenant in tho navy-. .ith. All who left seats ii the Congreso of the Uni'ed States to aid the rebellion. 5th. All who resigned or tendered recig nations of their commissions ia the army or navy of the United States to e~nde duty in ri sisting the rebellion. 6th. All who have engaged in any. way in treating otherwise than lawfully aa^sri Boners of war persona found in the United States service, as officers, soldiers, seamen or iii other capacities. 7th. All persons who have been or are absentees from the United States for the purpose of aiding the rebellion. 8th. All military and naval officers in the rebel service who were educated by thc Government in the Military Academy at West Point.or the United State-, Naval Academy. 9th. All persofia who he'd the pretended offices of Governor of States in insurrec? tion against the United S!nFT3. 10th. All persons who left their homes within the jurisdiction and protection of the United States, and passed he3-ond the Federal military lines into the 60-called Confederate States for the purpose of aid? ing the rebellion. 11th. Ali persons who have been en? gaged in the destruction of the commerce of the United States upon the high 6eaf?. and who have made raids into the United States from Canada, or been engaged in destroying the commerce of the United States upon the lakes and rivers that sepa rate't he British provinces from the United St a t cp. 12th. All persons who. at the timi when, they seek to obtain the benefits hereof by taking'the oath herein prescribed, are in military, naval or civil confinement or custody, or under bonds of the civil, mili? tary or naval authorities of agents of tho United States, a? prisoners of war or per? sons detained for offences of any kind, either before or after conviction. 13th. All persons who have voluntarily participated in said rebellion, and the esti? mated value of whose taxable property is over twenty thousand dollars. 1-lth. AU persons who have taken thc oath of amnesty ns preser-bed in the Pre? sident's proclamation of December 8, A. D. 18i55, or an oath of alegiance ?to the Government of tho United (States since tho date of said proclamation, and who have not thenceforward kept a nd maintained tho same inviolate.. Provided, that special application may be made to tho President tor pardon by any person belonging to the excepted classes, and such clemency will be libe? rally ext ended as may be consistent with the facts of the ca;,: and the peace and dignity of the United States. The Secretary of State will establish rules and regulations Cor administering and recording the said amnesty oath, GO a3 tr* insure its benefit to the people and guard the Government against fraud. In testimony wn*pre*>f, I havq hereunto act my hand and caused the seal of the United States to be affixed. Done at the city of Washington, the 29th. day of May. in tho year of our Lord 1865, nnd of the independence of tko United States the edghty-ninth. ANDREW JOHNSON By the President: I WM. II SewARP, ctecrotarr c* B'a'e. 1 T-ine 3 '