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Wh*t look, old ChrtttfMU to-diy?
Slid I, mi (ofity
A? he throwoutfit*linefor prey,
p :^Poor mortal folk (aborning.
W)ihne<r?f#?fcNw,r**oiu4ht oknin,
. A uii-er with * bargain- y
Toooteho nmly *nm, I took
A driMle-Ulled iuri0ut~
{ A would'bo Mfe Mad os my book,
r "AiimpUnffatl dram writ.
in, tjiiMfh oft you with
S.tIO hod *OIB,
1 cautht o wtgoow with o hifk*
/Vl>c ?uh}i?t for diuec lion:
' An offlrc hunUr with ? lio,
Well mHwd for ?UetW
we&~
Ynw top* bitM wWI it ? cortc,
(Whin there'* o boltli to it)-?
Your Ji* will even bito it po?k,
IT no NHll annoy through it.
, Yo'tr Aid man Hkw a parchment, when
By mortf?fto torn* on?S bitten;
Yonr younpter like* ? frr-hcr ?kin,
' Whin yet there's nothing written,
8om? thy oneV pity ihoul the line,
Till prudence wnserfeehle;
Aodthowi it |i*t ire often miuc,
Who only meint to nibbtt.
Ttier*'* few indeed of email or greet,
(Or I ? to moth ni<l?k?tt)
Bu* rjjuy, by tone peculiar hrit,
He tempted, end then b?> UKott.
Hut there i? one of ill thi reft,
Who moit employ* my cook;?
Th? i<f/er ple???? me th* best,
Hi bite* the naktdhook"
HOUSE OT COMMONS.
Mr. UUSfvlSSO^ 'S ?peech In reply to Mr. Enter,
and Mr Williams, on tli'< vibjeet of the pro
hibition ftf foreign Bilk, grounded on ? petition
of the Silk Weaver* to that effect?
[GsnrfeMJ
This advertisement was inserted in the
Micclesficlii Iris, and any one may refer to
it. The consequence wns, that a vast
y.rr.bfr of people immediately rushed to
M.ieclesfield, and they were doubtless soon
?up> lied with more than the 5,000 they
?v.int?d. Here was a demand for infantine
operatives?for the work of children of 7
??cars of age, ?nd those infants to be put up
:i manufactories which were so greedy of
their tittle labours as to cnll for them at the
early age of 7 years. ?ih! at the very mo
ment too when this House was pastuug an
tct to prevent the employment of children
under the nge of nine y'.irs, (sis we under
stood) for morn than 12 hours in the day
(Hear, hear ) Now 1 know not how many
of those 6,000 persons were procured?1
perhapxthe whole nu.nher; but this de
mand for ?uch 4 quantity of additional as
sistance augur* certainly more of that pre
dicted falling off in the trade of Maccles
field. But to this advertisement which I
have rcod; allow me to refer to another
which, dthouah I have not myself seen it,
t am informed, by undoubted authority, ac
tually aptMvtred in the Macclesfield paper.
?4VV mtod 1o be ballt immediately, 1,<<00
bouwta." (Hear.) If, therefore, this was
the state 01atrade, and it trade too. which
was to end in July, 1026; I will ask whit
confidence is to be placed now in tnose
who, with equal confidence in IB24, pre
dicted that trifle would be destroyed before
the end of the next twelve months ? Can
any one, then, who has reviewed and con
tidcred those facts*, believe the statement
tow made, that the trade is in a rninons
stall, and it likely soon to cense altogether?
Alter such proceedings as those I hwe re
ferred to, the'Inhuman--for I will call them
Inhuman?efforts to Induce an many young
and helpless and desolate children to flock
into Macclesfield, fan any one wonder if
two month* after such nn event, tho?e chil
dren were turned out of employ, and left
in n *t?de of very great distress, so much
so, that elevetf persons were* found in a
State of starvation. .
Mr. Ellice observed, he had merely stat
ed that the eleven persona bail been remov
ed from ths town.
flfr. Huskisson continued.?Well, then
can one he surprized if, onder those cir*
cumstances, thero had been eleven orders
for Removal? Having now, I trust, satis
fied the Houae, that if there be difficulties
?If there be distress felt at this moment in
Spitftlfalde, distress and difficulties are e
qu:dly felt in t.her districts and other
branches of manufacture; and I will ?ty,
that, notwithstanding the rival manefacto*
at Sudbury. at Mto< kbridge and else
where, the rAanufactures of SpitidAetd*
hive made greater progress since the pass
ing of the act complained of to this moment,
than for any previous period. Under these
circumstances, therefore, is H surprising
that the silk manufacture should not h.ive
Jbvmod an esceptioo to the distressss which
have overtaken every other branch ot
trade t (Cheers.) I have fclt hound, even
thes dwasely, to defend myself, from the
attack of my Honorable Friend ; and whep
*? whole system ot oar commercial po
~ hsd'been slacked, I trust I shall be
EM"'' JUti!
by what hod ocevnd to 8J
America,) my ho*. Friend opposite con)
curred in those measures. To what ex
tent did tboM dumgatio our colonial poll
cy go? To remove thoee datiee which
were lit the period of the enactment io tend
ed for (be protection of trad*. I' MB ear*
prised, therefore, that an lion. Member,
who ought to bo hotter informed, whose
iadement ought to bo more correct, aboold
bo blind to the conseqnencea of thejm be
neAcial measures?beneficial I will call,
them. because, while they removed the
charges a poo importation, thoy wore at
tended with no lose to the Rerenue. I hare
called for the proilnction of a |mper which
has not ret been furniehed. but which shall
in let* than twenty-fodr honra Jw placed in
the bands of erery If on. Member of thin
House, and which will shew the increase
that baa followed In tbo c? nsumption of ove
ry Nrticle. the duty on which has been lea
vened. The importation of one article will
be (band to hare increased 5,000i another
10.000?and other* in a atill greater pro
portion ; and yet I bear from thosu who
are more conversant with the transmission
of millions sterling, from London to Paris,
tb.it with the operation* of general trade,
thun it iti to this principle and te this system
of tree trade, that the distress of the coun
try is t*j be ascribed. (Cheers.) I am
most happy to any that the results of tho
principle on which I have thus acted, have
fully borne me out in all my anticipations,
(n the six months which followed the re
?taction of thn duty on coffee, the consump
tion ofth.it nrticle more than doubled, with
out any decteuso in that of tea. The in
cr*b*eit consumption of wine was in tho
??mc proportion, and thus it wn? found that
(lie mnic amount of Revenue was produced
with these additional advantage*?progress
in our liberal policy without any increased
pressure on the country. (Hear, hear.)?
I come now to the main point of the ques
tion. It is admitted that silk is easily
smuggled?and Hint indeed it mnv be smug
gled into {he country to any extent. No
lion. AIcAdicr who now henrs me. who will
not admit, that if the dutios were .10 per
cent, higher than they arc, smuggling would
increase Smuggling is never prevented
Hy prohibitory duties. Smuggling is nut
an evil for which prohibitory duties are re
medies. It if argued that when prohibited
goods are landed, ami come into posse
sion of individuals, you may follow them i
and nizc those articles in the King's name,!
upon having received the oith of any in '
former that they arc of this nature. Now
I nm realty surprised that any of those
Honorable Gentlemen, who aro so jealous
of their right*, nnd who are no noxious lo
take advantage of every opportunity to
Maud up and defend (he people's rights,
should rise in this House, and advocato
luch a system. Tt is singular in tho ex
treme, that chey should so for forget 4)ie
feelings l?y which they appear (o bo gene
rally actuated. To wh?t doei this amount
?this power of seizing nnd examining all
who aro suspected of wearing or keeping
prohibited good* ? Why to this, thnt if
any man?no matter whnt may he his rank,
be he the lowext peasant or the highest
Peer in the realm?he suspcctcd of wear
ing a Bandanna handkerchief, he is liable
to hare his house searched, and his premi
ses ransacked, to look for those contraband
goods. If such ii measure be indeed a re
medy, it is most assuredly a remedy that
encourages to had pasaions; n remedy thnt
encourages to fraud; and a remedy that
leads to danger Rut is this n remedy ; or
is it not an effective one ? If it he effective.
I say, bad though it maybe, and bad though
it be proved, st'll retain it. Rut let u? see,
is it so, or is it tho contrary t (Hear.) In
con?equenc*$ of the frequent reference
m ule to the subject of smuggling, I have
taken tho trouble to ascertain wh.it quanti
ty ofsmuggled silk* have (h en seized with
in the lust ten yearn, and have found it did
not exceed on an average ?>.000 per an
num. [Hear.] I could not of cour?e le-?rn
the exact quantity which hits been actually
smuggled in, but 1 found, on inquiry, that
the quantity entered outwards for hngland
at the French custom-houses, amounted to
upwards of ?150,000 per annum; the
whole of which must hove found its wav in
to thU country. Will any man, therefore,
?ay that there is nothing in this which re
quired amendment? The Hon.Gentleman
has referred to Indhi silks?in reply to
which observation I will tell him thnt those
are imported in large quantities, and sold
for exportation only at the Knst India Com
pany's *ales. Do they go to France to
be put round the heads of the ladies there
ortheneeks of the gentlemen ? No. They
are sold at the India sales here to the a
mount of ?600,000 or ?1.000,000 annual*
ly. and at an average of 4s. per handker*
chief. They are purchased publicly; what
then become* of them ? They are shipped
off to Hamburgh, Rotterdam, Oat end, and
Guernsey; and thence they all return hi
ther again. [Hear, hear.] It follows,
therefore, that by such a system of fraud,
perjury, and every other vice, will be
created, and the tendency of which being
to demoralise. It cannot t?e too mm ter
minated. f The handkerchief, moreover,
which is sold here for 4?., return*, and ia
bought et 8s.; the whole of which differ
AMen Mma SnlA |||* gumLnle ?r* mim?i
?net jiM imp ,iii pooitw oi formgntrt
-end smuggle! "*
ll- ^ M ^ fii #tju
ON fo?fr wmj
thet (K being the
to the tbealree WJM_
qutt their plaoea during the perfonnenee,
-nd, WbhhJTtr return, merely tie their
handkerchief* to their scat*,? claim which
is uniformly reflected) he examined them
in several instance*, end found that those
handkerchief* were nil ofcetton; net one
of *Qk hitd he ever seen among them.?
[The Right Hon. Gentleman here, in sop
port of this part of hi* argument, teferred
to the known fact, that almost every man
in Society weara India handkerchiefs, and
that if n man were summoned before a ma*
Kistrate for having bad a Bandanna ronnd
hit neck, the magistrate would be bound tp
commit him, although, he himself might
have one in hi* pbcket.1 Therefore, con*
tinned the Hight Hon. umt., you have to
chooao between a moderate protecting do -
ty and p prohibitory law which produces
objectionable consequences. But that ia
no{ the whole of the case. B.efore the re*
peal of the law; a manufacturer would say,
when n piece ofiilk waa shewn to him,?
"1 know, and I can prove (hut thla ia French
manufacture !"?"How "From its su
perior quality; from ita substance and it*
admirable workmanship?for it is Quite im
possible that any equnl to if Could be made
in England ** (Hear, bear.)
Would tho manufacturer aay, that ex*
cellence in fabric proved nn article was
French; yet it was in that way ttfat French
good* were detected But ia that the case
now ? One fact i? worth an hundred assor*
tiona : An extensive French manufacturer,
after the passing'of the law ao much mil
understood, or at least misrepresented,
Mid, "The English have opened their trade
?the prices of labt.r must fall?>1 wdl there
fore go over and try if 1 cannot do better io
England than in France." He came over
and settled here.?He went to work ; em
ployed men in Spitalfields and Manchester,
who worked under bis own instructions ?
He succeeded, and?I blush to own it?ex
cited the jealouxv, nnd drow down upon
himsell the unmerited persecution of the
British manufacturers. [Hear.] The Jut
ter snid; "This tro<io of hi? is only a clonk
to cover the importation of French goods ?
But th.it was not enough?they implicated
my Hon. Friend the Hucretxry ot the Trea'
sury. [Mr. Herries] in the infamous charge.
It wan even alleged in the newspapers.?
My I Ion. Friend sent f ~ ihe parties accus
i e<l, and they repelled the charge withindig*
i n ?tion They were Called before the Lords
J of the Treasury. Tho British manufuc
turer was lirtt heard?the other party was
then called in; ami denied the charge.?
What did Ihe British manufacturer say ??
That, indeed, if ho had ncceta to the books
of the accn?$d, lie could soon establish the
fort with nbicb he charged him. V\ hst was
the resource of Ihe indignant foreigner ?
" My books I you shall see them. Let an
officer accompany me, and 1 will send them
here in a hackney couch." He did so: and
in those books Wero found the whole of
the entries connected with his manufacture.
The ofltar found the name of the foreign
house from which be had purchased the
materi.tl?the property in hit house cor*
responded exactly with his stock account.
Man for man, as stated by him, were found
at work on the very goods described in
his books. (Hear.)
The English manufacturer still persist*
cd, and pointed out n great quantity of goods
which he contended mu?t have been smng>
pled. What did the French trade?man do?
He called upon tho English manufacturer
to chooae tho most skilrbl person in the
trade for hi* purpose, aaid ?go to my stock
?tdm it orer ; select from it whatever
you please, and on the proof of its being of
English orFrench manufacture,let the guilt
?
v. ?uuincais ui chiivt pany rctl/'*
The offer w.n accepted. What mn the
result ? Thirty-seven piece* oat of one
hundred were selected. The Frenchman
averted they weie English manufacture.
Il?w did Le prove it? He brought forward
the very men by whom ev^ry one of those
thirty-seven pieces had been made in Men*
chester nnd Spitalfields. (Load cheering)
I state thi? with feelings of shame; feelings
of disgust for the treatment of those per*
son*?nnd the retufo they hnd met with,
for their attempt to improve manufactures.
[Cheers.] Hero yoa had the best judges
in the country, declaring that (ho articles
brought forward were of foreign manufac
ture, and yet wbeo yoa proceed to inquire
into the charge, yoa find they were all mis*
taken. Therefore, I assert, that a prohi
bition is no hotter than a well-regulated du
ty Now I have endeavored to ascertain
what are the wages given to boys in ?ng '
land, and I find, that on an average it is I8d
a week. I question much if the rate of
payment tor labor is less in Franee. The
whole consumption of silk in France is not
equal to the consumption in this country ;
there can be, therefore, no demand here,
that will not increase the rate of wage* there
and consequently keep Hp the prices of or
tides of French manufacture. I consider.
therefor*, that a duty of 30 per cent, will
nlwavs be a sufficient protection; and I do
not fear that any danger can arise from such
a limitation. We have, it la supposed fire
hundred thousand persona engaged in the
silk manufacture. What i* their average
stages? Is it an low aa 10a. per week t?
Wn will take it et that, which is not b* *"
m a m iL .i _ _a M n If?n Mam
iWIMlM m IPW ponion fii invia mnj
children nnder nine years old. I will si
' with another each
Add to this iotertst of capital
Mote*. U will amount *
.The Lord.* Report fised
nefoctnred silk at 16 mil.Mons, another esti
mate* it at J t; let ua take the amount at 14,
aa that which is consumed by the people of
this country. Will it b? said, therefore.
Unit 30 per cent, weald not be ? sufficient
pfotect^t doty t for if the whole 14 mil
lions were imported the daty would amount
to upward* of ?4,000,000. The whole
consumption of France it not equal to that
of Enf0and( and I will therefore any, that
under a fair system of management, with
our improved machinery, our ladnet
uomy, end perhaps the lowered pi
other article# of consumption, we shell be
placed on e footing, where 90 per cent,
would be found an adequate protecting du
ty. The inquiry rnmlo by Parliament in
connection with this subject, wea not loeee
iy or inattentively conducted. . Wee' not
sufficient time taken for deliberation ? Did
their Lordabipa rush to i conclusion with*
out having examined competent witneaaea
or without giving due weight to their tes
timony? No 8trj no auch raah precipitan
cy can be cfturged against them/ [Hear,
hear, hear.] The whole tenor t?f their in
quiry hat established the utter groundless
ness of auch an imputation. Tim noble
Lord who presided over that Committee,
aa well aa the Committee generally, had
most diligently, and with the moat laudable
anxiety, investigated all the bearing* of the
very interesting question before them. And
what, let me eik the House, was the evi
dence of that CoatmhteeT Not that 30 per
cent, would be a sufficient protection to the
home manufacturer; no, but that 15 per
cent. wan fully adequate. (Cheers.) When
1 state ?Jiis fact, let i^not oe supposed that
X stand up for the decision of their Lord
ships; but that 1 think we are now on the
safe side when we make the duty double
whst was recommended by the Committee
(Cheers.) 1 (ear. Sir, that I have proceed
1 ed to too great a length- (Hear.) I cer
tainly have gone too great a length for those
who are already natiffied that the system of
policy pursued by his Majesty's Ministers
in the last year, is that best calculated to
promote the g6od of this country?'cheers)
?and I have gone with but I fear little sue
cess against those who, with their new re
cruits. with the Hon. Member for Taun
ton, Mr. Baring, and the Hon and learned
Gentleman opposite, think the safety of the
country and the cc 'inuance of her trade
depend on protections, prohibitions, Spi
talfietd acts?(cheers)?or for those who,
with the Hon. Member for Staffordshire,
Mart with horror at the bare mention of po
litical economy- He thinks, and indeed
has told us, that thoso who put faith in, or
who adopt such principles, are only fit for
Laputa. [A laugh.] When, Sir, the Hon,
Bart, wiilied me at that celebrMted island,,
anxious to secure a favorabfo reception
there, I naturally asked myself whateortof
recommendation I should !ake, and certain
ly it did not occur to me to solicit a letter
from the Hon. Bart, who, if I mistake not,
has professed himself a Brobdignagian?
[laughter]?his letter, therefore, could not
have much effect; but I shall tell him what
was the introduction with which I was re
solved to arm myself. In the first contest
which we had to 6ght during tho Bullion
discussion, the first question was, what
ought to be the proper standard-?we we re
philosophers and economists, a* we were
recommended gold and silver as tho fittest
for that purpose, and if the practical men?
(a lsugli/?had agreed to that definition,
there would have been no farther dispute.
The question then so much agitated
would have been at ouce determined and
for ever aet at rest. 8ach, however, was
not the case, and so many were the opinions
and so great the discrepancy between them.
Tnatouo hundred volume* of pamphlet*
were published, proving that these metal*
neither were nor ought to be the itaodnnl,
and defining whet it really wm, Taking,
Sir, some interest in the doctrine* of our
forefather*; I read the?e publication* with
considerable attention, and certainly not
without n due seme of the novelty and im
portance of the principle* hid down in
them, and I wa* enabled. Sir, to extract no
lee* than fifteen definition*, each purport
ing to fit what the standard really wa*.?
'Laughter.] The first definition Mated that
he only true and legitimate standard wa*
'the abstract pound sterling.*' (Continued
laughter ]?Thus the solemn opinion of a
very distinguished practical gentleman,
connected with the city, had it* reign for a
season, nnd among the practical per**** in
that *eat of trade it had unquestionably a
great run. It wa* at length exploded, and
nAat the standard wa* on all hand* declar
ed to be the "ideal unit."?[Great laugh*
ter.) This doctrine prevailed for a raw
month*, and at length th# atandard wa* de*
fined to be nothing morehor le** than "the
?erne of value in paper nioney with respect
to commodities." [Continued laughter.]
Now, 8*r?Jf I am to be banished to Laputa,
I shall content mjrielf with this little Dic
tionary ?4 definition* and I am sure there
iano philosopher in that mo*t philosophical
island, who will not tbiak me nt to be, not
only at the head of the Mian, but likewise
to have all the county banks placed under
my special controul a*d direction, i -hnera
Indeed, Sir, uale** philoeophy ha* mueh
declined in that ceontvy within tltt
o^nttiryt or unleaa it f ------
trlee have, in that i
altered. I ran f
for 1 have no
ahUdcetf
i li l *
Go
to" the tokMura of I
dam follow frtm'^T
sy?tem of pro
?t is too mocb for fallibia men to ugr, that ,
it can only work idlfood, b.-tit is my sin
cere opinion it will assuredly work groat
tioM which hevp Kro t
here stale ond aVow my intention to ?
that system, and I wo find to kvow HI
tho House nod the public. !!?*
cused of inflicting Injury upon i
nod sacrificing them and theTOj
rash and visionary theories Sift
with indignation thi? charge in tbo
this House, nntblhe public, rw unju?t to I
feeling, m to' my character. <: (CbeeriJWl
Havo f, Sir, violated any doty to Ood or
man, that I am to ho told thet I ought toJ>e j|.
overwhelmed with remorse for the distreaiV' ?
I have brought 00 individe*!* by 0 perse
verenco in my roth theories ? wood God!
Sir, can any man supppaeme totenalbfe to ?s*
tho distreaa which ?t preient unfortunately* 4
affects not only the nHc trade, but rther
branches of otflr manufactures? But, Sir,
I have adoty to perform M a Ministor of
| the Crown, and before I can Utfen to -tnj
own private feelings however strong thoy ;
may be, I must ask myselfwhether tho
courso now pursued la that likely to pro- </
doce ultimate distress, or whether it it not
the best calculated to benefit in the sod, K
those who now clamour most agaioat it?
I have alao. Sir, to take measures Of pre
caution to prevent those miterie* which
have flrom time to tim*, in apite of the prtjf y
hibitory duties depressed tno trade. And ?; *
I aasure the House, that I look on our pre
sent system as necessary in guarding against
these alterations in the value of proper*/7
which have so often proved fetal to ond en* '
tailed ?o much wretchedneaa ob tbo victim*
of such an unsettled atate o/thing*??md if
we do not continue the operation of that -
system, I have to warn the House that we
must espect the recurreoce of those acenee
of dtstrea*. In conclusion. Sir, I protest
against these unmanly appeals which am.
daily made to my feelinjp. I know tbo
painful conseqoeneea to which poor people
I are subjected, from n want of employment.
I look, however, to e better rtato ofthingt.
I think with the Right Hon. Gent opposite,
(Mr. Tierney) nnd 1 hail his declaration ?"
with joy. that there ta nothing in the state .
of the Country to make ua despair. (Load
cheers.) I think with him, that <rar trade*
and our commerce are atill on a securei nn?l *
firm baaia. 1 feel. Sir, tiiat the preapettygi,
of the eouetry remain* in the aame atate,: ?
and although its eprings mav for the mo- ?
moot be depressed, it will, I have no doubt.
In e short time recover and that atate bf
confidence be reatored, which makea eve
ry man rely oo the iodoatry and support of
his neighbor: a confidence whkh is the*
true aonrco of national prosperity and of
commercial greatness. I trust. Sir, I shall '
li?e to aee the day whentUe operation of '
these principles which we Oow advocato
from the conviction of their" utility Will ,1
product the happy results which we to
warmly anticipate. and whether in pobtto
lor In private life, all the consolation re
quired under the weight of obloquy now
heaped on me, ia that the House end the.
public abould hereafter feel grateful iooa,
for having b the hoOr of trial remained firm
jin the adoption of thoae measures which
| have already teceived the approbation of
l Paitiament end which in my conscienceJt
believe to be calculated to promote the
beat interest* of the country.?[The fright
Hon. Gentleman resumed his aeat 'amtdat
general cheering.}
Hf. A. Baring then rote amidst cries of
M Adjourn.** He was sensible of (he great
dumlrBntnpM under which he cUimed lb#
attention of the House, after the powerful
aftd eloquent address which they bed just
board. (Cries of adjoaru from ell part*
of the House.]
(he
I frno
for Cored
Mr Secretary Canning.?-If* Sir,
question to be discussed were only (he
(Jon of the Honornble Member for Co
try, it might, perhaps, be disposed of |o< t
night; but aa thespeecfi of my Right Hon. i,
Friend his involved beneficially, I think '
for (he coentry, (be whole question of
our commercial policy, nod which I should
have no hesi(e(ion in allowing le 'stand or
fall hy, I think, we ceunot well dispose of ?
n matter of such magnitude at Ibis sitting*
Tbe dsbele was (hen adjourned.
In answer (o a question of Mr. Home, r.s
lo whether the report on (he Promissory ?
No(es Bill wss (o be discussed to morrow.
The Chancsllor of (he Kscheqaer-setd,
(he dehete ofto-nigh? having been so im
portant ss to be adjmjrned, lie Would not
bring on the question of the Promissory
Notes Bill to-morrow, but suffer it to
stand ever*
The orders of the Oaywel^ th^n gone
through and the House adjourned at aqufrir
ler past eee o'clock.
Mr. J***#?
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