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coeijmjiiat^ Thursday Morning, June 10,1075, Proposed Wholesale: EmiqeatIon to Liberia. ?A pamphlet. has been i lately published by Mr. Alexander G. Murray, of Georgia, advocating the romoval of the wbole body of the negroes of the United States to Africa. The writer, who is a prominent lawyer and an ardent sup? porter of General Grant, takes the ground that the negroes are a burthen to tho country, being totally deficient in energy, foresight, economy and intel? lectual oapaoity. He asserts that the best workers among the old negroes will do no more than sixty per cent, of tho work they did as slaves, and the young men not more- than forty per cent, of what they ought to do. The losseB by stealing before the fruits of the earth or animals can be brought to maturity n so great that it discourages the raising of vegetables, fowls or stock. Mr. Murray apprehends tho abject impoverishment of both whites and blacks whenever tho latter equals or nearly equals the former. To remedy this state of things, he pro? poses that all the negroes should be shipped ofT to Africa, a country which ?"God made to suit the negro," where tho spontaneous productions of the earth supply him with food, and where the climate is so warm the year round that the transported freedmcn will have no need to buy clothes. A more impracti? cable suggestion was never made. Con? ceding the desirability of removing tho negroes in the United States to Africa, will Mr. Murray inform us, pertinently inquires the Baltimore Sun, how it is to be effected? Let us suppose, in tho first place, that they decline to go, which is a very reasonable supposition. How does Mr. Murray propose to deal with them in that event? Is, there any power in Con? gress to order and compel tho departure from the country of any class of its in? habitants, not to say citizens, not con? victed of crime? "We have had the expe? rience of the long existing colonization societies of the country to prove to us that but a limited number of the colored race horn and reared on this continent are disposed to make the venture of emigration to Africa, either for their own or the good of the race in general. Why, then, should j it be expected that the negro in this wholesale way would wont to go to Africa? i What opening is there for such numbors? What business could they engage in? Supposing, however, that there were inducements in Africa for the emigration of the black race from this country, how would they go, at whose expense, and how long would it be before they were all gone? There are 4,000,000 of them at least in the United States, In the last fifty years 9,000,000 of Europeans have come to this country This is on enormous influx, but it has been stimulated by the unheard-of de? mand for labor here, the vastness and variety of our natural resource, the penury of the European masses, the at? tractions of free government, and tho indomitable enterprise of the European racos. They came, too, at their own ex Sonse, spread over a great length of time, o Government on the face of the earth could, in a limited period, have paid the cost of such an exodus, even if it had been willing to do so. The negroes of the United States have no means of then own to emigrate, and the immense ex Eense of the wholesale emigration would ave to he borne by the General Govern? ment. Does Mr. Murray think this practicable, especially with such a na? tional debt as we now have? If they are n burden to the country now, when they produce by their labor the most valuable of its exports, what would they bo if the country had to pay their way to Africa, especially if their plaoe as laborers is not properly supplied? Muking all rea? sonable allowance for what is stolen, it is but a drop in the bucket compared with the national wealth which they pro? duce, even with their labor in a disor- I ganized condition as at present. There Is no country in the world which has I labor better adapted to its section or pro- I ducts, if properly regulated, than tho South has in its negro population. While the North and West are ransacking the j earth for workingmen, the South has ' them in abundance for the cultivation of its leading staples. What would hecomo of this cultivation if the negro laborers could be suddenly shipped off at once to Africa? Where would the men come ' from to supply their places? We look upon all such projects us Utopian in the highest degree. The negroes will not go; they could not go if they would, and if they would go and could go their places could not he supplied in many a day to come. Hence tho proposition is not only impracticable, but undesirable. A Talk with the Indians.?Those of our readers who have been befogged as to the exact nature of the negotiations which were carried on during last week with Spotted Toil and his party at Wash? ington, will find the following a very entertaining letter from a Washington correspondent of tho Louisville Courier Journal, who gives the results of an in? terview with Spotted Tail and a descrip? tion of the talk with Secretary Delano and Commissioner Smith. Spotted Tail's exposition of the religious status of our red brother is quite encouraging and highly ' poelloal.' The'HBeaven of Spotted Tail la strongly materialized, qnito enoagh no to satisfy the authored of "Gutos Ajar/' as Lo will havo his gun, dog and pony and Other material comforts ip.' tho other world. Spotted Tail's views concerning civilizing influ? ence are highly intelligent. Ho Bays all the Indians want is a chance and time. But then there is little doubt that Spot? ted Tail is a first class liar: Tho Sioux Indians arotstill undecided as to what they will do with rogard to the propositions made to thorn by the Government, and the strong likelihood now is that they will go buck to their homes in Dakota without signing any treaty whatever. Tho pow-wow which was held yesterday at the rooms of the Socrotary of the Interior, between Mr. Delano and Commissioner Smith on the one side and the wholo Sioux deputation on the other, was a very remarknblo nffair. It exhibited to a very great degree the utter ignorance of the red men of tho binding forco of the white man's statute laws, and the extraordinary amount of patience that is required of the persons who deal officially with these savages. Red Cloud, in preparing hiB toilet, had endeavored to appear from the waist up as a white gentleman, but from the waist down, in that regard, ho was sadly deficient; the white man's apparel in that part being represented only by the tail of his close-bodied black cloth coat. His coat was of good cut, was new and glossy, his black silk vest fitted him well, and his white linen shirt, with its plaited bosom, was faultless; but it was a number fifteen around the neck, and the paper collar ho wore was about num? ber seventeen and a half, and the result was that on both sides of the collar button tho collar bulged out in an un eracoful curve so as to turn tho little lack bow or neck-tie outwards and dis? play its under side. It was some little time beforo I discovered that Red Cloud didn't wear trousers, that below his vest his shirt made a part of'his outside apparel, and that he wore on his nother limbs the nsual Radian leggins. When he arose to speak, his shirt in front ap Seared somewhat-like a Mason's apron, ed Cloud was the only person of the Sioux who, on this occasion, wore a coat All tho rest' wore shirts, vests and leg gins. All wore, or had with them, their blankets. Red Cloud had no paint upon him whatever, and Spotted Tail was also unpainted, except on his scalp where tho hair parted, which was colored with a streak of vermilion. All the balance were painted?no two alike?and seemed to vie with each other as to who should look the ugliest. Ball Eagle was smeared all over his face, scalp and hands with a light yellowish green, suggesting at first Bight a bad case of jaundice, while Black Bear was marked with streaks of red vermilion around his eyes, nose and mouth very much after the manner of the scarification of the South Sea Island? ers. The paint in most instances covered tho wholo face, neck, scaty and hands. It was very warm; tho perspiration flowed copiously from the "white brothers," but the colors of the red man remained unbroken. Their suffering from heat must have been intense, as they each used a fan, and that a large one, as vigorously as the hottest blood ed Japanese. When the Secretary of the Interior finally arrived, the "how! hows!" had passed around, and Commissioner Smith had explained the object of the conncil, Rod Cloud came to the front There was some disappointment manifested by the whites present at this movement, for it had been expected that Spotted Tail would bo the speaker. However, when Red Cloud commenced his speech, the impressivenesH of his manner and the words used seemed to suggest the idea that piobably ho had been under-rated. With uplifted hands and eyes reverently turned to Heaven, he said: "Great Spirit, hear my voice; have mercy upon me now, and pity nie. Before I speak, I wish to call Heaven and earth to bear witness to what I say." He then pro? ceeded in quite a long speech to say that he and the bands connected with his agency had concluded to accept tho $25,000 offered by the Government, but not on the terms under which it was offered. He wanted $10,000 in one hand and $10,000 in the other, and the $5,000 laid on top of that. lie wanted it now in cash and not in presents, and he wanted tho Government to be ready with more money next winter. lie com? menced then a long and tiresome state? ment of the grievances of his tribe, and before hu concluded had to be reminded that such matters could not be consi? dered ut that time. Altogether his speech was a failure. The first impres? sions created by him were dispelled by his subsequent talk, and he stepped down and out rather in disgrace, and much to the relief of all his "white friends." Ho was followed by White Swan, who was put forward by old Lone Horn, as a "young man" who knew tho w ishes of tho Sioux well, and who dared to say what he thought was right. White Swan in dress was the best representative pre? sent of tho wild Indian chief. He was crownod with a high band of eagle feathers, from which there hung a trail of the same materials about ten feet in length, and which stood out on his back much like tho fin of a sun-perch. On his breast was a shield of porcupine quills, bright silver bracelets woro on his arms, and large rings in his cars. Ho is evidently a swell among his peo? ple, and a great heart-smasher among the maidens of his tribe, but there was not a singlo point or angle about his fea? tures that did not indicate the most heartless cruelty. Your correspondent was informed by ono of tho agents pre sont that White Swan had just como in off the war-path when he was sum monad ^jy tho Great Father to como to Wash in g ton.\*-, The burden of White Swan a speeoh seemed to be en endeavor to have all the people of the great Sioux nation regarded as equals in whatever distribu? tion of presents should be made, but he was far from being intelligible as to any matter that he spoke about. Notwith? standing his great apparent gravity, he became confused, got his subjects mixed up, and finally wound up by saying: ??Well, I'd like to know what you all want with us, anyhow?" Many of the Indians seemed to appreciate the fact that he was making an ass of himself, and told him to .stop; but he didn't heed them. The report of his speech in the papers is very much oinheihshed. Hav? ing heard every word of it, however, your correspondent was impressed with the idea that White Swan was a court that didn't know itself, and that his talk simply amounted to nothing. As soon as White Swan had finished, Little Wound, a chief of no mean quali? fications, belonging to the Red Cloud agency, arose, and, in n very decided manner, told the Secretary and Com? missioner that he nnd his band would not accept their propositions. That while ho had counseled his young men, since the establishment of the agency, to peace, and would do so still, yet if the Government should offer them $40,000 a year for 100 years, they would not yield the rights, or any of them, they now had. Little Wound was remonstrated with by severnl of tho chiefs of his agency for his course, but he remained unmoved. Mark the word! That Indian will give the white people trouble before he dies. He is yet a young man. When Little Wound had concluded, Mr. Delano said ho wanted to hear from Spotted Tail. Tho latter did not hesi tato to arise, but before speaking very solemnly wont through with a hand? shaking all around, saying "how" to each person. After calling on tho Great Spirit to hear what he said, he imme? diately announced that he and the bands of his agency would be entitled to 510,000 of the money offered by Congress, jjjid that they accepted the offer. Here was a long pause. The Secretary and Com? missioner seemed pleased, and expected that this speech would make a pleasant finale to the council, but the next sen? tence told on thorn very differently. ??But," said the chief, "I want the cash in niv hands before I sign the paper." It was hero explained to him, as it had in the outset been explained to Red Cloud, that the North lino of Nebraska included tho South port of the <5ioux reservation, which extended to the North fork of the Platte; thot it was absolutely necessary for tho Sioux to give up their hunting Erivileges South of the Niobrara River, ecause this privilege, resulted in an endless collision between the Indians and whites, in murders, robbery and other crimes, and that Congress had, last year, authorized the payment of $25,000 for presents, to be distributed among the Sioux, if they would give up tliOj privilege mentioned; that if tho de? putation present, or u majority of them, would sign a treaty for that purpose now, the probabilities were that more would be given them by the next Congress. Spotted Tail said that the matter was of so gravo a nature that he would rather, beforo signing the treaty, submit it to the whole Sionx nation in grand council; but he was reminded that the Act of Congress expired by limitation on the 30th day of June* 1875?about one moon?and that he would not have suf? ficient time to call this grand council, and that if the treaty wos signed now, the Indians present might nominate their own agent to make the distribution of their presents. Spotted Tail insisted on the cash, and said that if the presents were bought here and distributed out in his country after the treaty was signed, his children (meaning his people) would get very few of them. He further sug? gested that the money be drawn now, so us to bring tho matter within the limita? tion of the Act of Congress: let the pre? sents be bought and distributed, and then the treaty would be signed. The Secretary and Commissioner now became impatient, and told him that his sug? gestions were entirely impracticable, as the treaty must be signed, and presents bought afterwards, before the vouchers for the money would be cashed by the disbursing Ofncers of the treasury. The council came abruptly to a close. Spotted Tail saying that he would go and have another talk with the Groat Father he fore ho signed the paper, and at once, without further ceremony, getting up with all his people nnd stalked out of the room. The deputation hail tluir proposed [ talk with the Great Father, this morning, but they were told just what Mr. Delano ' and the Commissioners had said to them, j and still they refuse to accept the terms of the treaty. Red Cloud, Little Wound \ and Spotted Tail each distinctly and j more than once said that it would bo of j no use whatever for the Government to propose that the Sioux should move away from their present reservation, yield up the Black Hills and go to the Indian Territory, for they would not do i so under any circumstances. I After the close of the council yoster i day, vour correspondent was accorded a long interview with Spotted Tail. Seve? ral Indians and halt-bloods wero present. The conversation was oponed something aftor this manner: "Spotted Tail, you are regarded by the white men ns tho wisest chieftain of your nation. Have you any objection to talking with mo on matters not pertain? ing specially to your visit to this city?" "I have no objections, except that iny mind has been, and is now, troubled about that paper which the Commissioner wants us to sign, and I cannot talk to you long. What do you wish to know from me first?" "I was very much impressed with the manner of Red Cloud nnd yourself when you opened your speeches in tho council this morning, and I want you to tell me -rznr.?. .. .-.?? ~ -?? somewhat of your religious belief.", Spotted Tail, after quite a pause, pro? ceed edj in answer to questions, to talk very gravely, the following being subf stantially what he said: . ;? "Most Indians believe in die Great Spirit, ion heaven and in a hell. Bnt some are unbelievers, and think that, when they die, they are no more, just like the dog und tue horse. There are but two worlds, tho one on which we live and that one where the Great Spirit dwells. Tho spirit world is more than 10,000 times larger than this, its hunting fields hnvo no end, and tho game there is inexhaustible. Its flowers are more beautiful and. fragrant than any we bave ever known, and its maidens are lovely as the colors of the clouds before a setting sun, and never grow old. The land does not have to be cultivated there, but every kind of good fruit, and in the greatest abundance, hang upon the trees and vines continuously waiting to be plucked. Nothing ever dies there, and tho wants of all who go there are con? stantly and forever supplied without the necessity of any work. All good men, whether they are white or red, go to heaven, but a great difference will exist between the conditions of the races of men and individuals there and what they are here. Everything nearly will be re? versed. The wealthy here will be poor there, the powerful and great here will be humble there. "The Indiana who liikve Jjoen over? powered by the intclligenco and skill of tho white man here will have a better chance there. Everything which has been taken from them here will be given back to them there, even to his gun, his dog and his pony. Here the Great Spirit has been oh the white man's side; there be will lean to the cause of the Indian, and then," said the chiel, his eves flush? ing tho meantime a fearful realization of the present condition of his people, ??we'll fight it out, and we will not be driven from our hunting grounds like the sneaking, savage wolf. The bad men of all nations will go down into the centre of the earth and be excluded from the spirit land." "But tell me. You know that when you die?when your people die?they rot like the horse and dog. and their bodies go into tho earth, the air and water. How is it that you are to go to the spirit land and do everything there as individuals very much alter the samo manner that you do here?" "We go there as spirits, and there get new bodies, which tho white man cannot kill." "Have you not heard through your missionaries about Jesus Christ, tho Son of the Great Spirit?*' "Yes, I have heard all about Him; how good He was; what great things He did; how He would help the bad man to be good, and how He would lead all who would listen to Him to the Great Spirit, His Father; and I have also heard how the whito "man I killed him. The Indian never would have done that; he never would have murdered the Son of the Great Spirit. He would rather have loved Him better than his own life; would have given Him anything and all he had, and for Him would have gone upon the war? path and conquered the world. It was for a long time after I first heard about Jesus Christ that I did not ?inderstand how the white man could have killed Him; but when I got better acquainted with the wdiites, when I realized the fact that they had no respect for the rights of the Indian, would take away his home [ whore he was born, murder him and his children, despoil his women, and rob him of his winter's food, I then very readily understood how they could even kill the Son of the Great Spirit u.s they did." ? "Do the Indians often pray to the Great Spirit?" "Yes; on almost all oc? casions, whether great or small." Does the Great Spirit answer their prayers?" "Yes; he always answers the good man. He has given us all wo have, and is always present to give us more, if we ouly do no wrong." This conversation was, notwithstand? ing that Spotted Tail had said it must be short, prolonged for nearly two hours, and much was said by this chief which was of great interest to all who had heard hhu, even to the Indians and half bloods present. On the subject of dress and civiliza? tion, the following conversation in sub? stance occurred: '?You have said to the Commissioner of Indian Affairs that you want in your annual distribution of rations,'' (which for the last seven years to the Sioux has amounted to from $1,000,000 to $1,200, 000 per annum.) "you want tho same kind of food the white man eats. Don't ' you think it would be much more com I fortuble if you would wear the same kind I of clothes as the whito man? Would not ! the white man's trousers suit you better ? than your leggins and blankets? ' I "Yes, 1 would much prefer the tl'OU ? sers, but if I put them on my people j would laugh at me. You would not like to put on the Indian dress and walk i about the streets of the city of Washing I ton among your friends, for the same j reason that I don't wear your breeches. My people would prefer to be and do : like white people, but they must have time. We have only had agencies about seven years, and grand councils are not often called. Soven years is not enough to change the Indian into a white man. How long," continued Spotted Tail, turning to your correspondent and laughing, "do you think it would take to make an Indian out of you? Would soven years be enough? My peoplo are not lazy; for years my women havo raised fields of corn and pumpkins with tho spade alone. We havo no good farming implements, but if tho Great Father will give us some, ho will soon see what we can do. Our ground is very rich and fertile. Wkntovor we plant grows well and high, and it would not bo many years, it we had the implements, before we could grow all the food we wanted. The Yanktons, on the Missouri, have their farms and houses and plows, their school-houses and churoh.es, and (heir young men /Bretf litt} thf|wfn& and speak English. Four?en fears ago they were as wild as. my people; and qfy peo? ple can do aa ranch Qs they. Give us time and you will see what we can do. But we will nerer move from our present land." "You said some time ago that all good men went to Heaven. What is a good man?" "I must go and think over that paper the Commissioner wants me to sign," and ho strode out of the room as unceremoniously us he had out of tho room of the Heeretm y. In a talk with the Sioux agents, your correspondent learned that none of tho Sioux could he trusted; that they were in all respects like children, and were totally unconscirms of gratitude; that if the Government or any of its officers yielded to them at all, it was accounted to cowardice, and not to the desire to benefit the Indian. All in all, they are a very curious people. Crrr ILvrrnns. - Cool spell continued yesterday. The hair is to be worn up high on the head again. Figures never lie, but they don't al? ways stand straight. "Yours truly," often means "not yours by any means." A well known medicine, of recognized merit, is Heinitsh's Queen's Delight 8 The festive mosquito is now practicing industriously at the bar?netting. The Randolph Rifles pic-nioked, yes- ? terday, at Fielding's grove, and had a target-firing also. A new and popular perfume is called "Modesty." It knocks the spots out of all others. , A man too busy to hike care of his health, is like a mechanic too busy to take care of his tools. The Fourth of July falls on Sunday this year, and what are we going to do about it? [gif Seth Green is right, you con take your wife fishing with you. He says fishes are not frightened by talking; they have no sense of hearing. Old type metal, suitable for many pur? poses about mills, can bo obtained at Pi;cen ix office at 25 cents a pound, or 20 cents by the 100 pounds. Round trip tickets arc being sold by the Greenvillo and Columbia Railroad officials for the college commencements at Williamston nnd Walhalln. A double daily passenger train is soon to bo run over the Spartanburg and Union Railroad -avoiding the tedious delay at Alston. If there is not a city ordinance subject? ing to a fine any person throwing orange and banana peel on the pavements, there should be one. If there is such an ordi? nance, it should be enforced. Mulony and Hayward, convicted of personating Deputy United States Mar? shals, passed through this city, yester? day, on their way to the prisons in New berry and Anderson. Rev. W. S. Plumer, D. D., Professor of Didactic and Polemic Theology in the Theological Seminary, in this city, has resigned his chair. Subsequently Rev. John L. Girardean was elected to fill the vacancy. A colored forger, named Frank Chirp, was arrested, yesterday. He had at? tempted to pass notes at Mr. Gyles' grocery store, and being suspected, a po? liceman was sent for, when Chirp ran off, but was overhauled. He was lodged in the guard house. Col. LeRoy F. Youmans delivers an address before the Richland Rifle Club, in the. Opera House, this evening, at 8 o'clock. He is an excellent speaker. The doors will be open at 8 o'clock, and members of the club, acting as ushora, will he on hand to seat visitors. The Baptist Sunday School have a pic? nic, to-day, at Fielding's Farm. Wo have been requested to say that wagons conveying tho children will leave tho church at half-past 8 o'clock. Persons furnishing baskets will please Bend them around by 8, with a card attached, bear? ing the contributor's no mo. The mem? bers of the congregation arc invited. The following tablo shows tho rate of commission charged by the Post Office Department for money orders: On orders not exceeding $10, 5 cents; over $10 and not exceeding $20, 10 cents; over$20 and not exceeding $30, 15 cents; over $30 and not exceeding $10,20 cents; over $40 and not exceeding $50, 25 cents. No fractions of cents are to be introduced on an ordor. United States treasury notes or national bank notes only re? ceived or paid. -? o- ? Committee op Twknty-Fiye.?At the request of E. J. Scott, Esq., Chairman of tho Committee of Twenty-Five, who is now absent, I give notice that a meet? ing of tho committee will be held at 10 o'clock, this (.Thursday) morning, at Hibernian Hall, over Agncw's store. Punctual attendance is requested. JOHN FISHER,