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Student's Request I Was An Al-Sti Student wants were not recognized last week when a petition requesting earlier holidays was flatly turned down by the President's Council. It was reported at Student Council that the rejection was unanimous. Dr. W. H. Patterson, member of the council, said that this year's calendar was approved last semester by a group from Student Council. This last point is very interesting. We cannot see why such a group would approve of such a calendar since this year's calendar presents an almost identical problem as last year's did. Surely such a group could look far enough ahead to see that the students would not be pleased with the calender. And they are not. We believe that at least 90 per cent of the students, if a vote was taken, would desire the earlier holidays. Before the request was presented to President's Council this thing was thought out, and we believe that mature judgment was given to it. The main student objection is that stu dents will not have enough working days before Christmas to do any good. Holidays begin at 8 a.m., December 21. That means that students can leave school on Thursday, Fee Situati The administration has made a wise move in not agreeing with the proposal to make students pay their room fees this semester for room reservations for next semester. As was stated last week in an editorial, we were not in favor of the proposal at the present time. We are of the opinion that the move was being made at the wrong time. If students had been required to pay their fees this semester the confusion that might have arisen would have nullified any thing Housing Office had been hoping for in the new system. A news release was handed out last Tues day to the effect that students would be required to pay the $55 deposit between January 3 and 22 in order to insure that they would have the same room for next semester. If they did not pay during that A Student W4 A Hungarian student spoke to Carolina students last Friday in a foreign tongue about something that does not seem so foreign to us--Russia and its threat to democracy. Although the title of his speech was not this he talked about this threat. This 21-year-old student who went by the name Istvan Laszlo, which was not his real name, came to this country to speak to the American people about Hungary's plight. His talk was a very moving one, not because of his delivery but because of what he had to tell. He told how Hungary has lived for so long as a slave state to Russia, and how they got tired of living that way. They Many Studer A Southeastern regional meeting of Inter national Relation Clubs and the State Student Legislature meet in Columbia this week end. Representatives from 10 Southeastern states are expected to attend the IRC meet ing. Such notable figures as Dr. Philip E. Moseley, head of the Russian Institute at Columbia University; and John C. Broger, who was the principal advisor to Adm. Arthur Radford, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, until September 1, will ad dIress the IRC delegates and visitors. These two men will address gatherings in Russell House Assembly Rboom today and tomorrow morning. Dr. Moseley will speak on the "Political, Economic and Social aspects of the Soviet Challenge" at 2 p.m. today. Mr. When our vices leave us, we Don't say~ th flatter ourselves with the credit are stands over of having left them, and thunders a La Rochefoucauld, Maxima, 192. hear what you * * *trary. I took on. draught of life, Emerso1 I'll tell you what I paid,* Precisely an existence- Be sure you a The market-price, they said, ahead. Emily Dickinson, Davy C 'or Holiday Change sdent Request December 20, after classes. That leaves Friday, Saturday and Monday-three days -in which to work. For some it will mean fewer than that because it will ,be Friday or Saturday before they can get home due to the distance from South Carolina that they live. The distressing thing about all of this is that Student Council, which is supposed to represent the student body is not being recognized. Whether the President's Council thought this petition was a good one or not, it was nevertheless the desire of the student body. And it was the desire of the every student if you want to get technical about it. Be cause, as we said, student council is elected to represent the WHOLE student body, and therefore what they do is the WHOLE student body doing it. The petition was presented in plenty of time to allow students to make traveling arrangements in accordance with this earlier date. It was also made in plenty of time for professors to make other arrangements for tests that they might have had scheduled for the last couple of days before holidays begin.-Herbryant on Is Better time they might have to give up their room in favor of someone who had. The regular time set aside for paying fees and tuition is between February 4 and 8. Early payment would have caused two problems. One is that this move would have hit many students by surprise, and another is that it would have put more work on the Treasury Office. University Treasurer Frank Welbourne said that they would have had to set up the front office to take the early fees and then have to turn around and made more arrangements to take up the regular February 4 through 8 fees and tui tion. By changing their minds we think the administration did the right thing. Herbryant ants Freedon tried to do something about it. Istvan led an army of 5,000 against the Russians. They were freedom fighters. In the face of over whelming odds (Russia) they were almost successful in gaining their freedom. They (lid not make it because they are a tiny nation. The whole population of Hungary is about 9,000,000, about the same popula tion as for New York City. And they did not have any help. It is hard for us to conceive of the courage that Istvan and his army must have pos sessed. But we sympathise with them. With such strong persons in this worldl as Istvan and his countrymen we feel that freedom and democracy is strong enough to live and grow even in the face of a great threat. Herbryant lits Meet Here Broger will speak on "Military aspect of t he New Soviet Challenge" at 10:45 a.m., Saturday. Ninety-two delegates from South Caro lina colleges and universities will be on hand for the meeting of the student legislature. They represent 14 schools. Each school will have senate and house of representative (delegates. The meetings will take place in the State House where business will be carriedl on just as though it were being conducted by regular senate and representa tive members. Both of these activities should prove edu cational andl interesting to studlents. Both of these are good for the maturing mind. HTerbryant oled Ings. What you Nothing except a battle lost you the while, can be half so melancholy as a ) that I cannot battle won. say to the con- Duke of Wellington, Dispatch, 1815. ~Social Aim.. * * * * * My way of joking is to tell the re right, then go truth. It's the funniest joke in the world. rockett, Motto Bernard Shaw, John Budl's War of 182. Other. Island, II. "6 NANCY FOX Are Students Conservative' A college newspaper survey recently reported that, as re flected by college papers today, students now are far more con servative than their parents were. No reason for this was given but explanations have been offered that suggest that the apparent conservation is, in a way, rebellion against the rebel lion of the last generation. An other theory expounded is that students today are concerned mainly with security and want to take no chances of jeopardiz ing that security in the face of turbuhint world events. " Carolina has been described as the "most conservative of the conservative schools." Whether this observation was made ac curately, or the observer simply mistook something akin to lazi ness for conservation is debat able. We tend to feel the observa tion is correct, but slightly ex aggerated. Anyway, the Univer sity hasn't always been conser vative. There have been days of rebellion here. Those were the (lays of fiery oratory and stu dent insurrections. Those ex ploits have now faded into ro mantic tales for the history books. We're Romanties Nevertheless, history might explain our lack of real rebel liousness now. Our history af fords us with adventure and ro mance while conservatism is p)lainly comfortable. Besides, we're romantics through and through. We're rebels, too, but only completely so during crucial times. . . . Fog indices are going up, up, up. Collegians have always been prone to classify friends and non-friends according to looks, brains, personality, etc. The cur rent gauge abouts is the fog in udex, that in a second-cousin man ner embraces the other categor ies but mainly stresses mental alertness. The peak of fogginess is nu merically designated as 20, but occasionally an extremely obtuse individual will merit a rating of 20 plus. We aren't sure of our statistics, but coeds are gener ally higher on the fog index than are men students. The lat ter, though, are by no means out side the pale. Fog-bound people are usually happy folks. Lost in their misty reveries, they're easily identified by their characterisutic and in cessant, "Would you mind re peating that just one more time?" while their countenances have that "What, me worry?" lante. ROY WILLIAMS Religion OnV# A few fraternity and pledge classes have begun regularly meeting on Wednesday nights. This is an unfortunate trend which should not continue. In colleges and universities such as Carolina with at least 100 campus organizations com peting for students' attention and time there must be mutual co operation between groups. According to Dean Arney R. Childs there is an unwritten rule that Wednesday nights be re served for religious organiza tions' main meetings. Although less than one third of the stu dents at the University belong to fraternities or sororities, Monday night is reserved by the entire campus for their meetings. And this is as it should be. Need Cooperation Not only fraternities and so rorities but all groups through mutual courtesy should abide CARL M. REYNOLD Today Is Sig Today is significant. It marks two events of par ticular interest to Carolina stu dents. One past, one present. Of course, 15 years ago, the Empire of Japan launched a sneak attack on naval and mili tary forces assigned in the Ha waiian area. That was signifi cant. For during the same time, the Japanese w e r e negotiating through their diplomatic minis ters, in Washington, seeking peace, goodwill and better inter national relations. International relations were possibly.pt a low ebb during that time; forces were engaged in ag gression in Europe; dim views were being rapidly formulated in the Orient. The United States, however, was entertaining the prospect of continuing better relations with the Japanese. The International Subject This brings another interest ing event to mind. International relations are still an intriguing subject. Many people are dedi cated to this unique philosophy which attempts to adjust situa tions and tensions, making the world more ideal. Ideally, this is fine, but at best, it's still elusive and tricky. The second event, however, is the gathering of college students at Carolina this weekend, all of ROBERT TALBERT A Shor Have you ever been around someone that made you feel to tally useless and small? I felt this way last Friday. I went to hear Istvamn Laszlo, the Hungarian refugee, speak to an assemblage of Carolina stu Carolyn McClung A Lesson I The report from Student Council is that there will be no extension of Christmas holidays this year, despite efforts on its part to lengthen the vacation by two days. This is not at all surprising in view of the fact that when the same problem presented it self last year, an extension was granted and the committee was told by administration that this year's holiday should be attended to before the calendar year was made up. Student council at that time should have attempted to remedy the 1956 situation by ask ing for the extra time, but we understand that the present cal endar was approved by a council committee. It is regrettable that the com mittee in question was either composed of people who knew they wouldn't be back this year, or people who couldn't see far enough ahead to know that the CROWIN(G FOl UNIVERSITY OF! Member of Asmocia Founded January 0,. 1908, with editor, "The Camecock" is pubiliel University of South Carolina weel year except on holidays and duri The opinione expreseed by coln. necessarfly those of "The Camecoa an endorsement. The right to edi Versus Fra fednesday ~ with Wednesday nights being set aside for the religious groups. If fraternities are to comply with the high goals and purposes of their charters they should not alienate their members from the churches. It is most important that col lege students affiliate them selves with the campus church groups. It is a well-known fact that many students who let church attendance slip while in college never return to the church.. Freshmen, especially, should get into the habit of attending their church groups. With some pledge meetings on the same nights as the church groups many of them don't have a chance to enter the religious ac tivities of their church. The different churches in Co lumbia and throughout the state spend large amounts of money, time and personnel in an effort to reach students. The Presby S nificant For 1 whom have vital interest in the international relations field. The organizational convention of the Southeastern Association of International Relations Clubs is under way. Bringing great attention to the University, this association has as its purpose, among other things, the advancement of knowledge in world affairs. Carolina is fortunate in hav ing the convention on its campus. For delegates from ten South ern states have focused their at tention to this contrasting cam pus. Speakers of urgent impor tance and position will present authoritative views on the cur rent problems in the phase of international relations. The New Challenge The general subject theme is the "New Challenge of the Soviet Union." Fifteen years ago today, it could easily have been Japan. Times have changed, however, since that eventful morning. In ternational relations h a v e changed. Relations with Japan are now most commendable. The peoples of the former enemy are now engaged in great commerce, exchange of ideas and cultures with the American people and with the world. International relations, then, is a living thing. Where It suc ceeds in one area, it may be des perately lacking in others. 1 Giant Amor dlents. I was glad to see the huge turnout. SAs Istvamn's talk progressed, I felt myself getting smaller as his story unfolded. I thought to m.nelf that here is a boy, ap proximately the same ~age as For Council same problem would exist again. It is a known fact that college students like to work several (lays before Christmas in order to acquire some extra spending money. Carolina students are no exception. It is also a known fact that most communities and/or churches have programs the week beforo Christmas and that college students often take part in them, or at least like to be present for the programs and activities that have always been an integral part of Christmas. Carolina students are no excep tion. Damage for the present was (lone a long time ago and there's no way of undoing it. But we hope Student Council will take a lesson from the incident and act right away to see that Christ mas Holidays 1957 will be long enough to make them profitable as well as memorable. Ft A GItEATEIR SOUTHI CAROLINA ~le (:llealate Press Robert Elliott Conales as the first ied by and for the students of the !,on Fridays. during the colleg ,g exarninations. nnl,ts and letter wrriters are et k.' Pblihinu does not comstitute mrIn reserned. ternities ights terian Church alone spr $4,000 a year with its Westmin ster Fellowship program. Some .Are Not Aware I do not feel that some of the fraternities are aware of the Wednesday night meetings. I do not think that they would will ingly not co-operate with the re ligious groups. ' A partial solution to the prob lem might be the publishing of a complete University calenda of events by the "Y" or the Ad ministration in order to avoid such conflicts. There is no such calendar kept at the present time by any group on campus. Inevitably there will be un avoidable conflicts to arise In the scheduling of events on the campus. Organizations, however, must be on guard to see that their rights are respected, and not gradually infringed upon. There must be consideration and co-operation shown between groups. wo Reasons Peculiar as it may seem, at the time of the Pearl Harbor event, Russia was an American colleague. This even continued for a few years, and within the past 10 years or so, the picture has changed, the situation al tered. An Amusing Switch This is an amusing, but not too unsuspected, switch. And it is fitting that the dele gates to the convention here this week end should be interested in the new Soviet challenge. It is well to assume that many students, too, will be interested in the general subject matter, for an informed student is a good student. Much time and preparation has gone into planning the con vention here; and excellent speakers have been engaged. It is understood that students, who are not official delegates, will be allowed to sit in on the addresses, provided that all del egates have seats. This is a courtesy extended by the local IRC, and that organi zation should be commended for considering the students, who otherwise would not have the op portunity to hear such men of prominence speak on such an urgent subject. Yes, today is significant. It can be even more so, if the stu dent body will avail themselves to the opportunities of the day. ag Men most of the students at our uni versity, who without any pre vious military training took charge of an army of 5,000 and forced the Russians to leave his city. After the Russians had left, the control of the entire city was turned over to Itsvamn. He is 21. A slightly built fellow less than five and a half feet tall. In my eyes he was much older and wiser than 21; he was much taller than five and a half; he was a giant among men. All of this because he was fighting for, something we take for granted.3) Something that doesn't bother us. Istvamn was fighting for freedom. The right to be an in dividual in a free democracy. How Would We Act? I wonder how I would react if the thing of oppression was shoved on me? How would you the students of the University of South Carolina react? I like to think that we would stand as tall as Istvamn. I won decr what you think? How would you think and react? Anyway, I felt mighty, mightrg, small standing next to a man that I dwarfed in height. C C * From the craw of the Game cock: This thing about the Christ mas vacation time - the nine teenth or the twenty-first-is a lot of jazz. Man, don't the stu dents have a voice anymore? Or is theirs just a timid plea. As long as they are going to keep us around here for the twenty first, why don't we wait and come down the chimney with Santa and help him trim the tree with effigies. It would be a Novel Noel, to say the least. No Santa Here Yes, little girl, there Is a Santa Clause, but not around the