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f/Ga coc6 "Best College Newspaper in South Carolina" Member o; South Carolina College Press Association Published Weekly by the Various Literary Societies Terms--$1.50 a Year i'Entered at the Columbia, South Carolina Postoffice on November 20, 1908, as Second-Class Mail Matter NEWS STAFF .ISADORE POLIER .....................Editor-in-Chief W. Lum CROCKER ..................Managing Editor W. O. VARN .......................News Editor FRED MINSHALL .................Sports Editor MIss ELLEN HOUGH ..................Co-Ed Editor JIMMY BALDWIN ...................Feature Editor REPORTERS Thomas Wofford, W. J. Thomas, James Hearon, Harold Hentz, A. W. Holler, Robert Ingram, E. R. King, J. L. Murden, W. A. Brunson, Elizabeth Hardy Catherine Phillips, Elizabeth Lindsday, Ora Jackson. NEws ITEMS may be handed in to members of the staff, or phoned to editorial rooms at 907 South Main Street, Phone number 4109, between the hours of 3 to 6 p.m. on Wednesday, and 10 to 11 a.m. or 2:30 to 5 p.m. on Thursdays. BUSINESS STAFF C. W . ScorT ..............................M anager J. R. PAT% ...............................Assistant R. B. HILDEBRAND ........................Assistant SAM READY ............................Circulation FRIDAY, DECEMBER 4, 1925 Tag-You're It "'Tag, you're it;" and the great American game is on. Fair damsels approach us with meaning looks in their eyes. Before we have recovered from the shock they have fixed a piece of cardboard on our lapels and extracted divers coins for the suffering Bozo of Afghanistan, or, was it the league for preventation of sore throat among gir affes. At least t was some noble cause that left us vowing that we would dodge the next tag-clay if we had to go fishing. With most of us in this general mood the Y organizations of the campus plan a tag-day. Mon day for the benefit of the poor children of Colum bia. We confess. that our- fishing tackles will re main undisturbed for Christmas trees should come to every child once a year. Even if the suffering 'Pekinese are never relieved we are not excused from contributing to the happiness of children whose parents are in need. The downright cussed streak in us fades out as we remember the youngsters who have come to the campus the week before we left for Christmas holidays. Their overflowing joy and thanks for the gifts our small donations have made possible, removed every vest'ge of sourness in our souls. Here it is, straight from the shoulder: Univer sity men and women can spare something to pro vide for these children. If you think that dollar or two should buy your mother or father a pres ent, just stop) and ask what they would say. Makes you begin to feel sheepish. Get rid of that comn plex and see what your mite will do. Then, do with all your might. - 'j.s.c. -- Wanted-Cooperation At the present moment we suppose that the p.hotographic editor of the Garnet and Black is wondering how many students will take notice of the appointments posted upon the bulletin boards. The photographer for the 1926 Annual will be on the campus next week and the students are asked by the editors to report to him at the hour posted on the chart sheets. Each year the campus dumbells glance over the appointments and secretly resolve that they will wait for the setcond round of the photographer in the spring. A fewv saps at the heads of some clubs have the same notion and the photographer wastes half of his time waiting for students to report for sittings. 'rhe task of putting out a creditable Annual is no small one. It has been placed in the hands of a capable group of men and wo'men. .If they are given the cooperation by the~ btudents, their pro duct will probably be the best turned out' at the University. Those that have a sneaking notion that appointments can be deferred to some time later should remember that the only way to get a good Garnet and Black at the end of the year is to include his or her beautiful countenance in its appointed place. Greater Carolina's Big Guns Carolina makes another bid for the hall of fame. Unless some one steps forward to dispute our claims, the laurel wreath will be awarded to our student body as the most apathetic, inconse quential, and puerile to be found within the list of American institutions of higher learning. The scholars declare that profanity is an in dication of a limited vocabulary. But any critical observer who has noted the actions of our student body this year, would be sorely tempted to go be yond the realm of good English to express an opinion. Without exception the meetings have shown about as much seriousness as might be ex pected from children of the grammer school age. At this point the editor is tempted to dismiss the condition of the student body with contempt uous silence. For, we have no student body. Be yond the sphere of their class rooms, their club3, societies, and other organizations, the student body does not exist. We do not act as students of the University of South Carolina; we do not think as Carolina men and women. Those who doubt the truth of the statement have only to linger a few moments at a meeting of the student body. linger only a moment or two, time enough to see the students filter through the doors at the end of chapel exercises. Gaze upon the representatives of the largest student body enrolled in the history of the University. Count them on your fingers, they usually number eight or nine. While the flappers and teahounds lie to the drug store, while the yokels gather in their rooms, while the all-wise intelligensia settle world affairs, -a handful attempted to put across some student body action. They fail, and they will continue to fail. They may elect representatives to this board or that; but they will not be the student body of the University. And, because there is no student body at the University of South Carolina there will be no stu dent body opinion. Questions concerning the Hon or System, or of lesser gravity will never be sol ved by wholesome discussion-for there is no wholesome discussion. We go on, rolling up num bers and losing the cohesion that made student opinion the guiding force of the campus. We are now a splendid collection of a few worthwhile students and a disproportionate number of men and women who either can not, or, will not think. To complete the gloomy picture, the editor must honestly confesses that he sees no golden ray of hope piercing the clouds. He can see no rea son to expect a transformation of these clods nto students who realize that the campus is their home for four years or more. This gradual disintegrat ion of a student thought centered about an active student body bodes no good for this or any other school. 'the only ones who can be excused for their insensibility to the seriousness are the type of student that South Carolina does not need; they are not needed at any other University. If this be unpleasant, make the most of it. - U.S.C. - What the Editor Thinks In the Open Forum of this issue is printed a letter from John Laurens Mills, president of the student body. Mills is aside from being president of the student body, one of the clearest thinkers on the campus. His letter on the Honor System should receive a careful reading. It bears a note of finality concerning the series or articles con tributed to this page, and, unless some niew idea or proposal is advanced by the student body, will con chude the Formn discussion. This should not be construed as meaning that the Honor System is to be relegated to limbo and be referred to at chanice bull sessions. If this happens, a great deal of printer's ink has been wasted. The time has come, in the opinion of the editor, when the matter should be discussed at a formal meeting, or, meetings, of the student body. Referring again to Mill's letter, the editor should add that he does not necessarily subs.cribe to Mill's idea of the worth or organization of the Honor System. As he sees it there is room for debate concerning substituting student espionage for a system for faculty espionage. But this matter should be decided by the student body. All the comm1unicat'ons addressed to the editor have not been published within these columns. Duplication of ideas was natural, and the editor has judiciously tried to select the lettres that re presented the different attitudes. We believe that they have all had behind the motive of improving conditions by stirring up discussion. The response of these individuals reveals a healthy condition that should culminate in action by the student body. Therefore, the problem simmers downi to the qestion of whether the student body of the Univer sity of South Carolina has enough interest in the controversy to cryrstallize its opinion by united action. - u.s.c. - Charlotte O6ser-ver says that Winthrop was the first college to have its beginning in a stable. "Debe" The Forum THE FORUM welcomes all signed communications (your name need not appear in THE GAMECOCK) expressin opinion on student affairs. A department establi as a clearing house for ideas. Address your letters to the . DITOR-IN-CHISF. THE GAMECOCK Student Body President Writes Editor, the Gamecock: I have followed with keen interest the dis cussion in the Gamecock for the past few weeks, regarding the Honor System. Every writer makes practically the same point; namely, that the ratio of efficiency in the matter of enforcement depends upon the moral consciousness and courage of the student body itself. This statement is undeniably true if we take it for granted that the students, as a whole, recog nize that our present system is the best form of organization that can be devised to put the Honor Principle(that every man is accounted a gentle man until he proves himself otherwise) into pract ice. There seems, however to be some "conscient ious objectors", so to speak, and, it is largely my purpose in this article to defend the Honor System as an ideal. The fact that the Honor System is a system, and, furthermore, a system of surveillance, is the object that one hears from those who think about the matter sufficiently to have objections. Our predecessors at Carolina had the same basic ideas of honor that we have, and the Honor System, as they established it, was merely their embodiment, in a set of regulations, of these basic ideas, with a form of procedure against individuals. Experiences had shown that sonic breaches were to be expected, and, in order to protect men of honor from unfair advantages that dishonorable practices would give to offenders, some sort of pre ventative and protective measures had to be taken Consequently, the Honor Systen as we have it to day. Any objection to unpleasant connotations of the word system is trivial, for this word is only a generic term, and, means no more than, for in stance, the word code would meant in the same connec tion. As regarded the other objection-that our Hoii or System is one of surveillance-it may be neces sary to say a few words. In order for any system pf this kind to be effective, to have teeth, if you please, there must be some method of reporting breaches of honor. I cannot conceive of a more efficient method, theoretically speaking, than the present one, where a duty is imposed upon each student to report such breaches of the Honor Sy stem as come to his notice. The idea that the members of the Honor Com mittees have a higher duty than the average stu dent in this respect is an erroneous one. If that were true, it would mean that we are working un der police system, where there is no obligation at all upon the student at large, and where there is nothing expected of him in reporting dishonorable conduct. The members of the Honor Committees have, in addition to the duty of every student, only that of having to sit in judgement at the trial of reported offenders. That is the sole function of their office. Suppose, for example, the Honor System were abolished. Immediately upon its abolition, a system of espionage by the faculty would have to be sub stituted, and where would the difference be. There would b)e only one: in the later case all recogni zed principles would be discarded, whereas, under present condition., no matter how lax and ineffi cient the practical workings of the Honor System may be, wve still have a recognized ideal of honor, to the efficient keeping and safe-guarding of which we may always give our best efforts. And, so it seems to me, if we subscribe to the broad p)rinciples of honor upon which the Honor System is founded: "every man is accountedl a gentleman until he proves that he is not one ; and every ma.i's word is accepted as true, unless there Is clear evidence that it cannot be so taken"--all objections to the Honor System, as it is at the present conceived and embodied, are unconvincing and childish. This leads us again to the first statement "the ratio of efficiency in the matter of enforce ment depends upon the moral consciousness and courage of the student body itself"-and the evi (lent lack of moral consciousness andl courage which have brought about such a deplorable con dition. It is to be hoped that free discussion may prove a remedy. That is my hope, as it is the hope of those who framed the endictmnent and whose burpose was to arouse and quicken such discussion as would lead to a unified and decided student body opinion regarding all such practices as are in disaccord with the principle of honor embodied in the Honor System. -- U.s.c. -- The problem of colleges for women: How to keep red-hot mamas from soki:. Y.M.C.A BARBER SHOP EXCELLENT, WORK REASONABLE PRICES L. M. MCCARTY, Prop. Your Patronage Appreciated CAROLINA STUDINTS I A Good Place to Eat MRS. F. F. 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