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VOL. Ill, NO. 4.3.
GAFFNEY CITY, S. C., THURSDAY, DECEMBER 3, 1890.
$1.00 A YE A It.
THE NEW COUNTY LAW.
QUESTIONS THAT HAVE ARISEN
PASSED UPON.
The Attorney General Gives Some
Opinions Construing the Act.
Only One Box Neces
sary.
The mutter.of the elections for the
formation of the new counties in
volves many issues which are being
constantly presented in one form or
another. Every time the people
proceed with one of these elections
certain questions as to the construc
tion of the act governing the forma
tion of new counties arisejandjthe At
torney General is called upon to con
strue the law.
Here, for instance, are a number
of legal questions propounded to the
AttorneyjGeneral’yesterdayJby Mr. L-
Baker, the chairman of a Limestone
county committee. They are given
together with the answers and will
bo of special interest to all concerned
in the formation of new counties:
Wiil it be legal for persons living
within the boundaries of the proposed
new Limestone county to register
December 7, it being one of the three
days in each month required by
law?
Yes.
Will they by so doing bo legally
qualified to east their votes for or
against the new county; the elec
tion having been ordered for Decem
ber 8?
Yes.
Will it be legal to open the regis
tration books on any day previous to
the first Monday in each month?
No.
Will a voter so registering be en
titled to vote in the now county elec
tions?
No.
Can a person be registered at the
county seat by another person if he
will make oath that the person, or
persons, he represents has all other
legal qualifications?
No.
Is it necessary to have three boxes
al each polling precinct? The law
having required u two-thirds majority
will it require a two-third majority
as to rame ami place?
No, one box; second, two-thirds on
all questions.
Would a failure of a two-third ma
jority as to name or place invalidate
the whole election?
No.
AN IMrOKTANT OPINION,
The attorney general has also ren
dered the following opinion which
wiil likewise he of special interst to
new county people:
Messrs. M. M. Tate and others,
Managers of the Now County Elec
tion, GalTncy, S. (’.
Your telegram was received just as
1 was leaving Columbia and I de
layed answering until I could inves
tigate the question. I wired you my
conclusion and now give you the
reasons upon which it was based.
Section :• of the act of regulating
the formal ion of the new counties
provides that all persons entitled to
vote undi r tin* Constitution and laws
of this State at general elections
shall bo entitled to vote at such elec
tions. (See acts 1811(5.)
It is evident t hat persons registered
on Decemlx r 7 are entitled to vote al
general elections and that qualified
them to vote at a new county elec
tion. it is true that section 7 of the
registration act provides tout the
registration books .shall he closed 80
days before a special election. (See
ttet 18% page IlSl.)
But lo not consider a new county
election n special election within the
meaning of that act. I understand
the term ‘ special election” as used
in this act, to mean a special election
for odicers or something of that gort,
while u new county election is a
regular election pursuant to law.
The general assembly could hardly
have contemplated closing the regis
tration liooks in any county when a
new county election is to lie held 5M)
days before such election. Such a
course might seriously interfere with
the registration of electors for t.he
general election following. But the
registration act and the new county
act, being new, may not thoroughly
harmonize; hut 1 take the view that
under them a person registered on
December 7th and otherwise qualified
to vote la entitled to vote In a new
county eh 11ion held Docomber «Kth.
I here is another and more serious
question that might arise and which
I merely cull to your attention with
out expressing any opinion. You
(ill wIim fve that section 7 of the
Iplstrution books act requires the
juistraliMii hooks to he opened on
the first Monday in December, 189f>,
at the court house and kept open for
three successive days. This will in
clude the very day on which your
election has been ordered and may
complicate matters.
Yours very truly,
William A. Bakbkk,
Attorney General.
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Have both your reg
istration ticket and
your 1895 tax receipt
when you go to vote
next Tuesday for the
New County.
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He Used Foolish Argument.
(Correspondence of The Ledger)
Gkassy Pond, Nov. 3<*.—Editor
Ledger : I have seen so much writ
ten for and against the new county
that it docs seem that the question
has been sufficiently ventilated so
that any one might see it to his per
sonal advantage to support the pro
posed new county.
The Headlight uses the most fool
ish argument in his ‘‘three brothers”
example that I ever saw in print. Mr.
Gantt seems to think or trios Lo make
us believe that we would he deprived
of our homes, stock, etc., should wo
determine to establish Limestone
county.
He must remember that all we
would lose of our own improvements
would be the residence, which would
be the court house and jail and other
public buildings. As to the parish,,
or county poorhou.se, I see from the
presentment of the grand jury that
Spartanburg county has forty in
mates of that institution and there
is only one from the cut-off that I
know of personally. Then again,
why will we have to issue bonds to
meet debts? What debts? I should
like to know.
Gaffney will build the court house
and jail. If Mr. Gantt calls a bond
a promise I would like to know what
he calls a promise.
Mr. Editor, why is it that we build
more churches and school hodses? Is
it ndt for the benefit and convenience
of our children and our neighbors?
Surely it is; then why should we not
have oar courts and records more
convenient?
If we can sec it to he to our ad
vantage, I think the Headlight ought
to be content to let us alone, as the
other papers of the county do.
If our taxes were to be higher
would we not be benefitted in other
ways in return? Yes, in many other
ways.
Now, Mr. Editor, this is the first
article 1 have ever written for your
paper, Publish it, if it will do the
ne\(’ county any good.
Bill Dooley.
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Have both your reg
istration ticket and
your 1895 tax receipt
when you go to vote
next Tuesday for the
New County.
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Draytonvillc Dots.
(Conespon'lence of The Ledger.)
Draytonvillk, H. C.. Dec. 1.—
Mr Editor:—The news in our part
of the moral vineyard is all about
the new county. Wo have got such
a new county fever on us that the
first tiling we say when wo meet our
neighbors is how is the new county
getting along and then we go on and
ask him about the health of his
family. We have been doing this
way and arguing with each other
until it now looks like old I'nion
county is going to roll up a larger
majority than either of the other
two old counties in the cut-off for the
new county, hut there are some few
who are still opposing, some for one
thing and some for another. .Some
are sincere in their convict ms,
others 1 fear are lotting their blinded
prejudices run before their better
judgment. It is u fact, a lamentable
fact, that some of them say they do
not want to see any of the new county
literature nor do they want to hear
any argument in favor of the new
county. This ought not to ho so. It
does look like that a man ought to
be willing to look at both sides and
consider which way is the best for
himself and the largest number of
people concerned.
The health of our section of county
generally good.
Very respectfully yours,
Kamiilku.
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HAS HE PROVEN A TRAITOR?
LARA SAYS THE HEADLIGHT
IS FALSE.
The 8th of December Will Be a Mo
mentous Day for Old Spartan
burg, Union and York
Counties.
(Correapondence of The Ledger.)
Mr. Editor—The 8th day of De
cember is almost here, and I feel
that it is a momentous day for this
section of Spartanburg county—yea.
for the entire county, and more yet
for South Carolina. We are then to
vote Yes or No on the question of
establishing a new county out of the
counties of Spartanburg, Union and
York. I say it is momentous to the
people within the proposed cut-off,
for it will be a change for the better
or worse. Let us reason and see if it
will be to our disadvantage or against
our interest. No, stop, those Gaff
ney people are bigoty and voted 11
votes for McKinley out of about 2(57
for Bryan, and I intend to resent
any such an insult to Democracy by
voting against a new county. But
you forget my proposition to let’s
reason and see if it will do us any
good or harm to have a new county.
Ah, but I don’t like some treatment
1 have received at the hands of some
party in Gaffney, and 1 can’t cast
my ballot in a manner that is cal
culated to do him any good. How
about us—me and you, my friend—
will it help us any, not the man
in Gaffney?
But I like old Spartanburg. I
have lived within her boundaries all
my life and I want to die there. Yes,
that sentiment is good and patriotic,
but it is only sentiment and does not
affect our material prosperity in the
least, my friend, does it? No, of
course not, but Spartanburg is now
very rich and a new county would
commence very poor and our tax
levy would be increased. Why so?
/ boes Gaffney not propose to build
the public buildings if the county
seat is established there? and has
not the comptroller-general said that
the tux levy in the new counties,
without an exception, is less than in
the old counties from which the new
ones were formed? That Giiffney
bond, is it any good and collecti
ble? Of course it is good and un
questionably valid and legal. It was
drawn by one of the best lawyers in
South Carolina — Mr. Hardin, of
Blacksburg—and it is now on record
in Spartanburg, subject to the criti
cisms of the world, and is it not rea
sonable to believe that if it were de
fective in any particular somebody
would have found it out before now?
Wc aro an integral part of Spartan
burg, but I assure you we carry our
own load now—just what we would
do if wo should form a new county.
To illustrate, every brick in a build
ing sustains its own weight, and no
more, and it makes no difference
whether it bo the bottom one or the
the last one on the topmost pinnacle.
Again, the Gaffney cotton milis
have a capital of about .$10,000,000.
Quite a rich concern you say. Sup
pose you have $1,000 cash and you
invest it in this mill, are you worth
any more because you are a stock
holder in a million-doliar cotton
mill? No, you are worth just the
same thousand dollars, and have
only the one one-hundred thou
sandth control of >t that you had
before you invested it there. You
have just one vote in one hundred
thousand. But suppose you put
your thousand dollars in a mill with
a capital of fifty thousand dollars,
you would still only have a thousand
dollars, but you would have far more
control of it, for you would have one
vote out of every fifty.. .Just so in
this rich old county you spoke of.
You have so small an interest your
voice is not heard. Ku is it not
clearly to our interest to east our lot
and invest our money in that institu
tion and locality where we can and
will be recognized, where our voice
is heard and listened to in matters
which are ours? Yes, your reason
ing is good, and I shall think more
about it than I have yet, but I am a
Reformer, and always have been, and
have felt it a duty that I owe myself
and my party to listen in a measure
to our organ, the Piedmont Head
light, and it strongly opposes a new
county.
I, likewise, am a Reformer of the
Old School, and have regarded Mr.
Gantt our friend, but 1 now absolve
myself from him forever. I have tiad
occasion several times heretofore to
doubt his sincerity, but never till
now was it so evident that he is un
reliable and treacherous to his fol
lowers. In this new county matter
ho is meddling where ho has no
business. I think wo have blindly
followed liis lead long enough. He
was once the mouthpiece of the peo
ple, hut he is now endeavoring to
assert himself dictator. His only
harp is the ‘‘unsophisticated far
mer.” Is there no other class of
human beings ” unsophisticated ”
but us? What does he intend for us
to understand by the expression ‘‘un
sophisticated farmer?” The meaning
is, as I infer from liis writings: “You
farmers aro a class of idiots and
don’t know it, but I do, and I am
your guardian, help yourself if you
can, you durn fools you.” E.ery
issue of liis paper on the new county
subject is an insult to our class. In
no instance does he appeal to us as
creatures endowed with equal facul
ties of reasoning with ourselves and
with other classes of men as to what
is best for us, but us if he hr.e.v o , .:r
inferior capabilities, he appeals to
prejudice alone. Is this not a'■fact?
Where can you find one single sen
sible argument against the new
county advanced by Mr. Gantt in
any of his papers? In the Head
light of last week (to say nothing of
the previous ones) what reus .ns does
he offer us for opposing the new
connty? Not one thing except to
call our attention to the fact that
some of the Gaffneyites wore white
caps to Spartanburg six years ago to
a political speaking. I denounced
that act then and do now, but show
me the common sense in recalling
these unpleasuntries at this time in
such a case as he does. Have we no
reason to which our editor can ap
peal, or is it that he has nothing to
offer us but prejudice? He sneer-
ingiy mentions that Senator Tillman
will speak on the olh instant to us
concerning smaller cuunGes. lie has
a right to speak and be listened to,
for from him we shall expect to have
good, sound counsel, not founded on
prejudice, but common sense. We
expect him to address us us human
be.ngs, capable of reasoning our
selves and listening and heeding to
reason.
Last week Mr. Gantt said : “Small
er counties breed nothing but law
yers and'higher tuxes, ami I cun
prove this to any man who will take
the pains to tind it out.” Wtiy don’t
he Sake some pains in this matter,
as he appears to desire to nestle us
so fondly under his wing? He has
had two months to prove to us that
our taxes would be increased, and
yet be has not shown it to be a fact
in a single case.
Mr. Gantt would have us believe
that all the new counties that
show a reduction in tuxes were
formed before the last con
stitutional convention, and that
there is quite a change in the law
now. lie again attempts to deceive
us by simply misstating facts. Very
well does he know that there was no
change in the constitutional law as
to the formation of counties except
as to area, wealth and population;
area being the principal change. We
will start the new county (if at all)
with no burden save what we are
now carrying, and which we will
continue to carry if we remain in
Spartanburg. Then what aro we
forced to conclude as to Mr. Gantt’s
position in this matter? Is is not
clear that some motive other than
the interests of his “ unsophisticated
farmer” is moving him? Is it not
evident he is working against us and
for the moneyed interest of others
than his supporters?
Let us drop him, traitor that he is.
Lara.
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Have both your reg
istration ticket and
your 1 895 tax receipt
when you go to vote
on Tuesday 'for the
New County.
Clifton Chronicles.
(Correspondence of The Ledger.)
Ci.irroN, 8. C., Nov. 30, 1890.—At
a meeting of the Sloan Literary So
ciety of the No. 2 school last Friday
afternoon, the following question
was discussed:
Resolved, That the United States
should annex Cuba. W. I’. Darity,
Henry Seay and Miss Zillie Bushes
spoke on the affirmative side, while
the negative was represented by C.
B. Morrow and Miss Alice 1‘rugason.
The judges, Misses Ola Allen, Cora
McKenny and J. I). Bailey, though
evidently Cuban sympathizers, felt
constrained to decide in favor of the
negative:
In the next debate Thomas DIgby,
E. B. Willis, and Misses Lola Turner,
Ola Allen, Cora McKenny and Belvia
Allen will participate, the question
being
Resolved, That Columbus deserves
more credit for the discovery of
America than Washington for the de
fence of the American colonies.
Mr. E. Bomar has returned from a
business trip to the North.
Mr. Sum T. Reid spent last Sunday
in Greenwood.
Mr. B. D. Bates, of Gaffney City,
was here about a week ago. His
friends wore pleased to meet him.
Mr. J. C. Putman, of Clifton, has
moved to Gaffnzy.
‘‘Seaton.”
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TEN QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
MR. J. L. SPAKE TO THE PIED
MONT HEADLIGHT.
He Docs Not Know that the Answers
Will Be Satisfactory but they
Give Reasons that Will
Influence Farmerc.
Editor Gakfney Ledger:
I send you a small contribution in
answer to the Piedmont Headlight’s
hard questions. I think I have an
swered them satisfactorily. Please
print and ask Spartanburg papers to
please copy for benefit of the coun
try people. Truly, etc.,
J. L. Stake,
From The Plains.
Editor Piedmont Headlight: In
your issue of Nov. 20 you take occa
sion to score very severely the people
who wish for a new county. In the
course of your lengthy article you
make the assertion that ten proposi
tions which jou lay down in the form
of questions, cannot be answered,
and that, unle-s satisfactorily an
swered, would be sound reason for
voters refusing to estaolish the new
county.
Now, I propose to answer your
questions and show that there is
nothing in them, and that, if not
dictated by personal selfishness, yet
there is a strong presumption that
Spartanburg interest is, at any rate,
as strong against, as Gaffney interest
is for, the new county.
Your first question is:
Must not you bear your share of
Hie public debt of the three old coun
ties, and which leaves the cut off
sections just os heavily involved as
before the new county was created?
Answer: We agree. If we have
it to pay by being in the old counties,
will we be any worse off by having to
pay it in the new? It is evident that
wo will be in the same fix in either
county, so that question is nothing.
If the new county mokes us pay it,
so will the old ones.
Second question:
Must you not relinquish your in
terest in the court houses and jails
and public enterprises that you have
helped to pay lor?
Ans. Yes: but if we do, won’t
we get others? Ain’t we better off
by having them nearer home? Who
wouldn’t swap an old house fora new
ons, when he gets the new one in a
place much more convenient to him
and more suitable?
Third question :
Will it not lie necessary to build a
new court house and jail, and do you
think that the people of Gaffney will
be content with public buildings
that will cost less than $40,(XX) be
sides the $15,000 to be given by
Gaffney ?
Ans. Just so Gaffney foots the
bill what possible difference can
it make? Gaffney is to furnish it,
and if she has tlie pride and push
and cash to do so, don’t you glory in
her public spirit? Wc do and you
ought to.
Fourth question:
Will you not have to employ three
skilled and experienced men for a
long series of years to copy those
public records, or else come to one or
the other of the court houses, when
ever a land sale is made, or a case
involving the question of title comes
up, and will you get any pay for this?
Will not this require more trouble
than to attend court as witness or
juror, and for which you are paid
mileage?
Ans. You must surely be object
ing for the fun of the thing. What
do you have to do in the old counties?
Don’t you have to go to the old court
houses whenever a land sale is made
or a question of tit le comes up, and
will you get any pay for it in the old
counties? Your fourth question is
simply ridiculous. What possible
effect can the new county have on
these facts? You must surely believe
the new county is going to be moved
off somewhere out of reach of Spar
tanburg.
Fifth question :
Will you not have to construct sev
eral costly bridges over Broad river
which can now be dispensed with?
Ans. Is it any objection to the
forming of anew county that a pub
lic improvement will be set on foot
that should have been completed
years before? Should not the citi
zens of the great commonwealth of
South Carolina' be so connected in
their interests that it would be and
is a stigma on the fame and honor of
York and Spartanburg counties that
a watercourse divides people so close
in interests of all kinds. And pray
why should the bridges be costly,
and why wouldn't the ferries do the
new county as well us the old?
Sixth question :
Most of the cotton mill property
being locate 1 in incorporated towns,
where is your road tax to come from,
except oul of the pockets of the
farmer, must not the former put his
hand in liis pocket to make up for
the taxes relinquished when he cuts
himself loose from those cotton
mills?
Ans. The same old story. As if
the farmer didn’t know he paid fur
everything anyhow. Oh, no, Mr.
Headlight, the farmer knows he has
to pay and he always had to pay, and
now Gaffney, a city, wants to pay,
and the farmer for once, is going to
let the town pay. The farmer knows
your question is all 1 umbug, for
Union and York don’t get any of the
cotton mill money, so you see the
farmer is'thinking tof" iiirnserTr^lsd
lie knows it is lots better to have a
court house only ten miles away in
stead of twenty-five.
Seventh question :
How in the name of common sense
and reason can you keep down an in
creased tax levy when you have just
us heavy a publiedebt as before the
new county was created, and must
then go to work from the ground up
and incur a heavy bonded debt before
a case cun be tried or a prisoner con-
lined?
Ans. You must, suppose that a
prisoner cun only be confined in u
$20,000 jail. We know that it won’t
cost any more to coniine a prisoner
and try him in a new county than in
an old one: and wo further know it
is state law that governs this; our
tax levy need only be for the actual
needs of the county, and being a
n wly wedded party, wo won’t set
out ms expensive us you “old. wunt-
to-sliow-off married folks.” We will
try “an economical government eco
nomically carried on” plan, and so
keep down our tax levy.
Eighth question:
How can the establishment of a
court house at Gaffney possibly' help
the farmer and land owner in the new
county? Can you not to-day buy
farm land around Spartanburg just
as cheap as you can around Gaffney,
Greer’s or Woodruff?
Ans. Don’t know and don’t care
whether we can or not buy land us
cheap one place as another. The
question is: Is it not more conve
nient to have your court house
where you can go and get back every
day, and not have to fool a hotel bill
every time you go to court? We
think Spartanburg has a peculiar
interest in the farmer’s pockelbook,
aqd it don’t seem that it is altogether
t»n interest that would tend to keep
the farmer’s money in the farmer’s
pockelbook. Maybe if the long and
expensive trips the farmer has to
make to Spartanburg did not benefit
Spartanburg so much that city
would not care whether the fr tier
got his new county or not. So 3n
you cry out at Gaffney remember,
“folks who live in glass houses
should not throw stones.”
Ninth question:
How much will the towns of Gaff
ney and Blacksburg contribute to
ward keeping up the public high
ways? Will not this burden fall upon
the country people?
Ans. They have not said, hut if
Blacksburg is as liberal as Gaffney
the farmer won’t have to pay any
thing. Anyhow, the new county will
keep up its roads. You need not fear.
Gaffney lias gumption enough to not
Jose any trade for lack of good roads,
and you know all roads lead to the
court house.
Tenth question :
Why. in lunning their last line, did
they leave out every town, cotton
mill and thickly settled community
from which tuxes could be collected
to help support the new county? Was
not this purposely done so that the
town vote of Gaffney and the influ
ence exerted by the persevering and
clever people of that place should
overbalance the country vote, and,
should the new county bo created,
will not this town still overbalance
the rural vote, as was the case in
Edgefield, and make of the country
man a nonentity when it comes to
politics?
Ans. Green eyed jealousy. Your
tactics are silly. We all know town'8
strive to rule, and will have town
rings. But if we had in the old
counties one dozen towns with all the
ring influences, all at work against
the poor farmer, isn’t it very evident
that Gaffney is doing us a favor to
give us only two to work against us?
Why, you aro actually making ('alT' i>%
ney a friend to the country people!
These two towns have only one-fourth
of the votes in the new county, ai)4
if the other three-fourths can’t man- , {
age that, why, let her go. As for
expenses, the new county had only
three criminal cases in last court, ■„
and she wants to get out from so ex- . •
pensive a county as Spartanburg, "
anyhow. Look at her criminal docket. '
Spartanburg is too costly a county
for us peaceable citizens. Further,
we want you to understand, we want
the new county for the reason we
want evfciy other improvement, of
modern times The same cause that
induces us to dig a well close to our
houses prompts us to have our court
house nearer to us, to save time and
labor; the one word, “convenience,”
tells you why.
Now your questions are answered,
whether satisfactorily to you or not.
They give the reasons that will influ
ence the rural population to have a
new and mor' convenient county
created after Dec. 8, next.
J. L. Ht.vkl,