The palmetto leader. (Columbia, S.C.) 1925-196?, August 07, 1926, Page THREE, Image 3
Saturday, August 7, 1926.
v |L The Presiding Elde
REV. ALBERT
1 The presiding eldership?is?being
fought in Methodism today as never
? before..?The conflict is nut confined
to any one branch of the methodist
family, but the conflict over the office
is present in all sections and in all
of the branches of methodism in
/_ seen active rebellion .against the office
in many places. *
ItTs well to note that the conditions
which gave origin to the office have
undergone a change. The time was
, when only two or three men on a P.
VE. district were Elders. The others
were unordained men and men who
rM had been ordained to the office of
\peacon. -Deacons in. those.days often'
went "miles to find an Elder to consecrate
the Lord's Supper for them.
Anyone whp has read the life of
Peter Carwright, the( great Methodist
Presiding .Elder of 'other days, can
easily get a glimpse t>f-the-wonderful
work that many men have done in
the office in question. Cartwright and
the men of his day, often had ten districts
that covered scores of miles.
They, travelled night and day, ito.ldi.ng
revivals and organizing preaching
places. Some times they reported
fifty and sixty new church organizations
to each annual conference.
Some time new ^converts were taken
out' of a meeting and sent to hold the
fort at places to which there were
no other preachers -t? be sent.- This
jsame principle wasr.operative whenthe
A. M. E. Church adopted' the'
Presiding Eldership as a part of its
ministerial activity. Bishop Quinn
was the Peter Cartwright of the A. M,
Presiding Elder in the West is a
part of our history that can never be
foTgotten. So Methodism came to view
the presiding eldership as a great
vangelistie force. ~Jt regarded.it as
an engine for expansion. - Lt watted
upon its activities as a means of ex<
lending its borders and directing its
extension. However, it is well for
those whorfind fault with-it tu refresh
their,minds with the current history
of our tidies. The times have chan.
ged. Some things that men did then
can be done now, but not ^?st in
he way that men did them'at that
time. For instance, in those days,
?young men were "sent'out with nothi
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,ing, and they were told to bring
something in with them. I have
known?them to go to places where they
had five?members and report-to the
-' next annual -conference, over one hundied.
Reviuatsvwere the order of the
~dair. Then revivals \ver<j^iiot planned
. for money, but-for souls/ Now, 'in
| -rfiosfT of many instances,-they^are only
r - financial efforts. Now they are often
r carried on ten and fifteen days, and
Nif the financial, effort is good, no
sleep is lust abuut the uiicuineieted.
And thus the urispiritual condition of
the church in so many places. Then.
too, the rating of ministerial success
. . npotf ldollars and cents rather .than
upon some-other things that need
not be mentioned, as given rise to a
number-pf things that have been the
father , of the handicaps that afflict us
no\tf. _
Well,- it should be notted .that a
, presiding elder ^cannot do now what
the presiding elders did then. The
conditions have changed. The hundreds
of well-trained men in the districts
with them have helped to change
?these condition. Circunfs.tances over
which one can have- no control, limits
~~ the presiding elder today as never
before. - S?ome time he is appointed
to a district field in \\hich several
other denominations server ' The elder
is so thoroughly-cuUivatbd that he can
n6t function with the law of expansion.
' In some cases he can scarcely
keep that that has been given to him..
In other cases if he needs a point at
which he might' organize^ a^rtrurch,
he/has not ?one.,cent at his command
to push the effort located. If he
sends a man there and if he has nothing
to give that man to live on, when
he hears from that point again, the
pastor he appointed there has gone.
The presiding eldership functions
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wwvtvi til inunc tnumica LUUtty II1UI
have a large fund for extension work
rather than in those churches that
have not such a fund. However wise
it was in other days to send out men
with nothing, to bring in something
that policy will not work today. Peo-pie,
even of_one's own religious pur
suasion, who are nicely housW^Tn a
church of anothter faith are not apt
to leave it to follow the fortunes of
a religious pauper who has nothing
ta offer them except gab and gibber.
, ' Bossism is dead in all religious effortB
r' today. Then man or men who have
_ , nothing uptheir sleeves except that,
had just as well jump over boaAl.
Religious liberty, both trr thought and
action, are?the order of t.ha^ day.
_ Wo hav^frad a typo-of presiding older
who has trie4 to be a Simon Legree.
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- But such a man has novel' gotten any
I results "in the. past, and it is certain !
- that lie Can not get any resultsdn the
future. The spirit of times is against1
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It is true that over-bearing and un- I
brotherly men have, at different times j
" 111 the past, been made presiding, el-'
ders. The foolish acions of these have;
done much to contribute to the present
fight rtgainst the office. Then, too, we
haVe had some men who have taken'
the advantage of other men. ' Some.j
have even organized rings in their j
v.ovuvia aguuisi some men who were,
in their districts. The political pre- j
siding elder whose pockets areMilled
with cunning tracks is a menage to the
office. *
In the more than thirty years of
my ministry, I have served with some
funny presiding elders. I once had a
presfding^elder who spoke to the peo-!
pie I was serving, thus: "Now you'
must understand, that I am your presiding
elder. Your pastor is alright,
but he is under me, ahd I am above
-him. Both he. and you must do as
I advise you to "do. No man can .serve i
in my district with me, who thinks
that he isms big. a man as I am. I
do not want any man in my district1!
who thinks that he knows more than
I~do. I have no place for such a man
-In my district."
I have never collected that presiding!
alder's money yet. The people" to I
^ hom he thus spoke refused to pay-j
him. They informed him- that that
which the pastor feels that he must
take, we are not bound to take. You
'are' only a man like we, and we as J
men can da as we. please with old-'
own. At the end of the year, the |
Bishop was forced to change him.
I wish to say here that I have always
honored the office, and I have
always put forth every effort possible
to pay the presiding elders I have
served with, and yet it is an office
that I have never sought and dhe that
I DO NOT WANT. I have seen control-;
force ,some men to treat otKer
men in many ways in which I could j
not be induc&d to treat-any group of j
men. However, apart from all of >
I this, there are hundreds of worthy ]
men tilling this hard f>lace with credit!
to the cause and to themselves. They j
have the work'of tTlo"church at heart,
and they pull with the.pastors in their-'
- f.evoral districts <g^auceess. Thcytj
do no bossing.? They-tell no lies to i
any Bishop on any one. Thev even I
allow themselves to be ill-treated I
by lying and deceptive preachers and!
still do aiJ that.can be'done to help the :
same men who ill-use thigffi: Sotivcrtinrdr
they have a ty pc of preacher on their j
l.district who will induce the people to j
fight their support. Such a. preacher,
will ni-^nniyf hie nfTWrg tlin I
presiding elder. r Tft' such, a condition,"i
the presiding elder's position is indeed !
| a hard one. Scores of such men have
I been forced'.to suffer. I have seen
j some splendid men., in-this position'
i whose families were without food. 1
j The office is a dangerous tMace for a
' lazy man who over expects to servo
i in the'active ranks as a pastor again.:
It3 is well to note that the office i
of presiding elder has not lost its!
usefulness. It is still a'vital force in j
rmethodism. We have not reached the
I place when it can bo dispensed win-i
1 The several gradations in oui\ minis-;
t try and the peculiar conditions which;
j confront- us, .still leave a vital place
in which the presiding elder -may
function if he is efficient, The present j
outlook is fhat there vare white me-!
thodist bodies that wjll ahblish the .
office in the not distant future. The
degree' of?efficiency?to?which?therr^"
church work has been brought, along J
with the splendidly trained ministry j
they Vave, -may enable them to do this,1
buff- the A. M. E. Churcli has noti
reached the place when it can dis-?
j pense with it, and we do not know
when it shall r^ach that time. Howv
ever, lite time will come in the A. |
M. E. Church when they will be elec-I
ted by their respective annual con.ferences.
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Our ^present district method of e- j
piscopal assignment?is doomed. It i
has about served its purpose. Favor-!
uism ana rings nave doomed it. The
future will find our- Bishops rotating. :
Under such conditions, no more district
administration men will be needed,
and thus our presiding elders can
be elected by our anntfhl conferences.)
According to .the Iimita{,iQnjrLxim;[
work in some places, we have too'
many presiding elders. This -obser- [
vation leads to the fact that we have'
too many annual conferences. Whe- |
ther or not political or^other reasons ,
gave birth to them, the fact is that1
we have entirely Too many. The A\ M.!
E. Church .does not need six annual;
conferences in South- Carolina. The
unwise multiplying of annual conferancert
hae^alse-orertted new pre- siding
elder districts that have added
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nothing to the strengthour ?ause
For instance, only three presiding el
der 'districts are needed in the Pied
mont annual conference. If it i;
said that we have enough territory fo
four, it can be truthfully said tha
we have not enough work for foui
If it is said that the fourth one wa
created so that our work mikht b
"Tmlarjrort;" it can-be said that there i
not the slighest possibiliy of ou;
doing anything of the kind. The mi
gration and other causes have doome<
that to a failure, j.
. Take thpAbhovilic
stance.. That district is t'oo smal
to give any presiding elder a decen
living. The hundreds of peoph
who have left there for other point
make it well nigh impossible for sucl
a district to give a man a decent liv
ing. This-serves as only an illustra
tioff of similar conditions in othe
districts'! -The people are rebeHTngli
gainst these conditions. The worl
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cotifcrcoccs in this "State will maki
three of ours, and in some cases, th<
work in one of the P. E. districts ii
their conferences will make two ?in<
three of ours. We must either u.nd<
some foolish things that we have doni
or sull'er some serious setbacks in ou
work. . . i
No, the presiding-eldership systen
as we are now. situated is alright
What we~ need-is a re-adjustment o
our work so that it will not Work i
hardship on'cither the P. E.'s.-, th<
preachers nor the.people, and all wil
be well. If we fail to do this, condi
tions will force us to pay a price tha
we are not able to pay.,
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Eastovians are all . smiles having
two of its members to be reelected as
Grand Ofilcers, namely: Mrs. L. N
Scon and Mrs. Gertrude C. Woodward
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attend the State Grand Lodge No
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-Mttt. Woodward- beifig -a Grand Oflicer
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