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Touched by Tillman. Be Takes Issue With Gov. Evans About Clemson. STICKS TO CONSTABLES. A Lengthy Interview With the South Carolina Senator -Expresses His Views Fully. Senator Tillman, who was in the city on Wednesday, was seen and asked his opinion in regard to the mach talked of strictures of Gover? nor Evans on the state of affairs 3t ' Clemson ^The senator replied thoughtfully, walking back and forth - across the floor with his hands behind his back "Tam surprised," he said, "at the attitude of seeming antagonism thai the governor has assumed, and also with the one sidedness, so to speak, of the comparison he makes between Clemson and Winthrop As I am a tiustee of both colleges, I ara of course more or less familiar with the details of their managent and also with the difficulties under which th^y have labored. And a great many who people have criticised, and who , perhaps have grounds for ciiticism, would understand the situation better if they could be made to understand the complex character of the work which we are trying to organize and c rry on at Clemson. Professors to fill the various chairs are plentiful SQDerabundant, in fact-and it is only a question of who to choose ; whereas, to find .suitable men to . teach the branches which we are try ing to make the foundation of the education we are giving at Clemson has been a great and difficult under? taking In fact, we have two col leges side by side at Clemson, and they are both entirely new to our people, and there are no men edu. cated in the south who are fitted for teaching in either. The mechanical department is in effect a' technologi cal school embracing engineering, both mechanical ?nd electrical ; and experts tu the various branches, who mast be paid, and paid handsomely, to .be obtained at all. or else a boy who goes there wi 1 not be able to get the special training he desires and needs "There is foundry work, electrical engineering and al! the vatious branches embraced under the head of mechanics and engineering Then when we go to the agricultural side of the college we h?ve the chemical department, the practical application of the science of agriculture, horti caltare, dairying, floriculture, veten* nary science, and in addition to this we are charged by the United States government with experimental work for which we receive an ann nal ap . propriation of $15,000, known as the Hatch fnnd And then comes the analysis and inspection of fertilizers, another separate branch, requiring a clerk and inspectors and analysis, and it is easy to see that with all of these expert men, who .are not re quired in an ordinary literary school, our corps of teachers must largely exceed what they would em pl og "Then coming to the literary or English 8chooj, because, while we are teaching these industrial and practical arts to agriculture and hor ticnlture, we have to have the same professors as the ordinary co'lege ; in other word?, have never supposed it was the intention of the State to ?end forth boys from Clemson that could not speak and write English correctly and be able lo enter into discussion with the ordinary college graduate on terms of equality. The demands which come from 6ome sources that we shall cofine our? selves to agriculture and mechanics, accompanied on the other hand with the demand that we shall not have a fitting school, would appear to ie quire *.he trustees and laculty to make brick without straw The friends of the denominational col? leges demand that we shall not com pete with other colleges in literary training and that we lower Clemson to the level of a mere labor school, in which the boys be required to work and go forth mere artisans or meehinist8 or farm laborers, without the necessary metal training. If we put the school on that level then we ? had better kill it. But at the same time we are confronted with the facti that a great matty of the bo}-s who ' come, being the sons of farmers in remote neighborhoods away from high schools and having little oppor- j tun?ty to prepare themselves, have reached the age of above j 15, for they cannot enter young \ er, without sufficient training to en? able them to enter the freshman class although the requirements are very low ; and we are thus brought face to j face with the proposition whether we ! are to turn these youths away and j not give them the benefit of the train- j ing, or whether we are to take them j in and train their minds in the ele- ! meritary branches of an ordinary j education, while they are learning 1 the technical branches taught in the { school. When the college was first organized we had no fitting school, but admitted all who came the freshmen class, but were requir 3 by circumstances to organize the -pre? paratory school, whic' was taught by the entire faculty In other words, the students of arithmetic ? would go to the professor of mathe matic8, but when they were out of his room they were left to their own devises, and never having been schooled to study, they did not know how to study and did not know real? ly how to prepare their lessons ; and after having tried that system for a year, we decided to organize a pre paratory ' ol and put them in n (or six ho ?, day at least, so that the professor could overlook and as sist them "But thc point which I wish to make in regard to the governor's criticism is this: Winthrop, with whose management I am familiar, and of which I have nothing to say except that it it has been as well managed as any new college that has ever been organized, has as large a preparatory department as Clemson and the girls of South Carolina have shown that they are no better pre? pared to do college work than the boys who bavo gone to Clemson If there were schools in every county, within the reach of the poor boys, who have had no opportunity to pre? pare to enter the freshman class and of these poor girls, tow, 1/ would be the last man to encourage them to go to Clemson and Winthrop unfitted But the State has expended large sums on equipping these colleges ; thev have faculties on the ground and the question is wnether they ninst confine themselves to teaching only those who are fitted to enter and do college work I, for one, would be glad to pee an improvement in the common schools and high schools that would enable^the colleges to take only these? who were fitted and 1 have lent every effort in the Con 8*itutional convention, in increasing the two mill tax to a three mill tax, and I see no reason why in the near future we may not have a system of ? free schools that will ruu alt least six months when we will not offer an op? portunity to any future governor to demand that we shali not have fitting schools run at the State's expense "Furthermore, the South Carolina college has ever since its organiza lion had boys enter who were not fitted to do the work of the freshman : class, and I do not see why Clemson \ should be singled out and a demand made that it shall not receive these illy prepared boys, who have not had an opportunity to get the necessary , training. ' Object lessons afforded a j farmer's son at Clemson is in itself almost an education.* When asked what he had to say about the dispensary part of Gov- ( ernor Evans's message he said that he was not discussing the dispensary "What do you think Clemson can , be run this year for ?" "I am glad you mentioned that." , he replied, "for it enables me to state , that all the money spent has not been . spent for running expenses I have not the figures, but I know that a . large part of it was appropriated by the trustees last year for equipment, and I would like to say in that con? nection right here to the members of the general assembly that they can not spend money more wisely than . by going in a body to those two in? stitutions and seeing where the money has gone and what has been done with it, and then decide what they want done with them, and what ever they do 1 will be satisfied with * it, for 1 am sure they will act wise- 1 ly." ; "How much will it take to run Clemson this year ?" ' We are told that we have spend , $40,000 ; $15,000 of that comes from , the national governmeent for ex peri mental work, by a special appropria? tion, and we have at Clemson a let- , ter from the authorities at Washing ! ton to deprive ns of the benefit of that appropriation if we use it for ( any other than purely experimental , purposes So we have to use that . appropriation for experimental pur- , poses solely, while the enemies of the college contend that the national . appropriation is enough to suppor | the institution ( "But even after thus using it and depending on the other sources of , income, I think, and I have said time . and again, that after we are thorough ly equipped we can get along with | ?30.000 additional to the appropria , tions, and I think if the legislature ( will give us ?30,000 and give the balance of the privilege tax to Win i , throp that the two colleges can be ? , run on the privilege tax almost with- ; out an appropriation from the treas- , ury." ..How much of the $194,000 was , for tuition fees ?" "There wer? no tuition fees charged Ii will be remembered that during toe CoDStitational convention tho question ( of tuition fees wa? brought, up, and I was twitted, or rather thc question was ask^d, why no fees had bt-on charge*]. Taking it ca a persona! allusion; I said . ? sent my chick for fha tuition 'for roy ! . ;-on. and had ?>ad if returned with the statement that Mr. Tindal and myself were the <?n?7 two <!;:if had tender.-:] tuition frca and that the beard of ttus- j tce^, under :h*? act accepting the Clem- j son beouest, ::?:.') 'leeided that we were entitled to fr<'e tuition under Clemson's will, and lb:> money was "returned. When I was governor 1 once or twice j called the attentiuu of the general as- | ' sembly to the necessity for some act designating some method by wbi^h tbe college should arrive at a knowledge as to who should pay tuition fees The Citadel has had difficulty in regard to beneficiary scholarships. At Winthrop we have simply to put the students and their parents on their honor. At Ciem soo we are barred under the act from chargiog tuition even and it is neces? sary to amend the law 99 "Under the existing law couldn't the board collect tuition as weil as at the other oolleges ?" "No " "Can they ever charge tuition fees ?** "If they will change the law we can charge them and determine who is to pay them " "I thought there was some condi? tion r "There is a condition in Mr Clem? son's will which was misunderstood when the act was passed. The condi? tio^ under which we were not to charge tuition fee? never came about., and yet the legislature io passing the bill ac ceptiog the bequeath provided that we should not oharge tuition fees 'as pro vided in Mr. Clemson's will.' which was, never provided " AS TO THE DISPENSARY. "Will you talk about the dispen? sary ?" .'What do you want about it?" ' Governor Evans io his massage says that the law is better administered than ever before." ..That is a question for the people to dtterrnine. I did my best " "What about the Shell letter?" "That is a confidential letter that bas been made public, and I do not care to say anything about it.'' "What about Mr. Burns' bill to do away with the constabulary?" "If you do away with the constabu? lary you bad bad better do away with the Uv. Until the agitation for the repeal of the law has passed and the enemies of the law understand they bad better try to get tbe benefits of it you will be compelled to keep the con? stabulary." 'Dou't you think the enemies of the dispensary would fall in behind the law if tbe constabulary were withdrawn ?" "It would be mocb easier for the governor to discharge the constables if be found that they were not needed and the grand juries and police did their duty. I think the new governor will have discretion enough to reduce the force if be finds he has no use for it I am sure be is ao eoooomical man and just as solicitous for the welfare of the State as aoyone. In conclusion Senator Tillman said : "I want you to say that I would be very glad if the legislature would ap? point a c ommittte to investigate the ^barges and insinuation that have been coade with reference to the dispensary management. Let them then turn ou ill the light and see what there is io :he insinuations that have been made As for myself and may administration [ want them to put on all the vitrol :bey can and if they find anything but honesty, parity and the best of inten? sions I want it shown, and I take it :bat all who have been connected with :he dispensary would like to have .the ?ame kind of clearance cf the insinua? tions that have beeo made." "Stumped" by Stamps. Ihose Issued by Republic of Cuba "Go" Ia the Mails. WASHINGTON, J? n 14 -The appear! ince of the stamps of the so called Ouban republic in the United States mails has caused much commeut here ind was the cause of some discussion it the postoffice department to-day as to whether such stamps could be recog Dized as proper for tho transmission of mai's into the United States, as this government has not recognized Cuba as a free aod independent country. This is probably the first of its kind where insurgents have established their jwu postoffices and ustd their own ?ttamps, which were transmitted in the mails to the United States. At the postoffice department it was stated that these stamps were good so far as the Uuited States was concerned, as our postal laws required only 5 cent stamps be prooerly-cat>celied and the envelope containing mail matter bear the post? mark of a regular post-office. Tbese regulations have been complied with so far as the departmuot knows. Had they not been admisible, the letters bearing thpse stamps would have been aarked with the letter "T" at the re? ceiving office in this country, meaning ";ax collect/' The department knows nothing about the postoffice stamped on the envelope, except that i' is in Span? ish territory and Spain is in the inter? national postal union. Th? stamps might give rise toa rieii jute diplcmatic question io which tho p<-stoffi:e department would take no part, but refer the matter to tho dept ment of state for settlement.. i WHITE & ? Fire Insurance Agency ESTABLISHED 1866. Represent, among other Companies : LIVERPOOL & LONDON & GLOBE, NORTH BRITISH h MERCANTILE HOME, of New York. UNDERWRITERS4 AGENCY, N. Y. LANCASTER INSURANCE CO. Ca nita] represented So,OOO,OOO. Feb. 28 We Offer Yoi; a- Remedy Which Insures SAFETY to LIFE of Both Mother and Child. BOBS C0NFINE5IENT OF ITS PAIN, HOBROB AND DANGER, Makes CHILD-BIRTH Easy. Endorsed and recommended by physi? cians, midwives and those who have used it. Beware of substitutes and imitations. Sent by express or mail, on receipt of price.? Sl.OO per bottle. Book "TO MOTHERS" mailed iree, containing voluntary testimonials. BRADFIELD REGULATOR CO., Atlanta, Ga. SOLD BT ALL DHCGGISTS. LODGE DIRECTORY. Olaremont Lodge, No. 6t, A. F. M. Meets Thursday rights of each -nontt, on or before the Full Moon. L. S. CARSON, W. M. fl. C. MORES, Secretary. Beit'ah C1npt~r,%No 25. R. A. M. Meets on First Tuesday of?each nonti;. L S. CARSON, High Priest. F. M SPANN, Secretary ?] -ii Gamecock Lodge, No. 17, K. of P. Meets every Monday night at 8 o'clock, except fifth Monday night. H. B. BLOOM, C. CJ R. WALSH, K. of R. & S Sumter Lodge, Nc. 1077,\K. of H. Meets every First and Third Mon lay nights at 7 o'clock. W. J DTJRANT. Die. ft. C. MOSES, Rep'r. Fidelity Lodge, No. 251, K. &L. of E. Meets every Second and Fourth ^louday nights at 7 o'clock. J. S. HCGHSON, Protector B. J R?TAME, Secretary. Sumter Council, No 649, A. L. of H. Meets every Second and Fourth Tuesday nights at ? o'clock. W. F. RHAME, Com. J. N. CORBETT, Seel Sumter Lodge, No. I, A. O. U. W. Meets every First and Third Thurs da/ nights at 7 o'clock. H. C. MOSES, M. W. B. WALSH, Rec. Pocahontas Tribe, No. 16, /. O. R. M. Meets every Friday's Sleep at the 3th Run. R. 0. PURDY, Sachem. B. C. WALLACE, C. of R. Sumter Council, No. 7 Jr. O. ?. A. M. Meets on Second and Fourth Tues? day nights of each month at 8 o'clock. WM YEADON, Councillor. B C WALLACE, Sec'ty. Holly- Wood Camp, W, oj W. Meets every Third Wednesday .right at 8 o'clock. E. W. HURST, COD. Com. R. S. HOOD, Clerk. Carolina Council, No 515, C B. L. Meets every Second and Fourth 'Vednesday in Monaghan Block. NEIL O'DONNELL, Pres. A- H. EBERHART, Sec. Chucuola Lodge, No. 281, 0. G. G. Meets Second and Fourth Wednes? day nights at fi o'clock. G. N.. MARSHALL, Com, B C. WALLACE. Secty. All of the above societies hold their meetings at the Masonic Tem? ple, except when otherwise speci? fied Bicycles ri rn-l and work warranted. A Fe* fat sale. Also wheels io w.i> t<? p&:;tri e?wtd ri i:'r* Von will find US a? Brabham's Shop JENKINS BK;>3 ti&n-rrtriri fi"i lA^r. csa think ?HrtOiHiy-?i? h icf some simple BSW62 5S.tfU ifiS? iU?? thing to patent? Pr? ' j <>>:.T idoa.*: tlsev :.~ay bring yon wealth. '.Vr: j'OHN WKDDEiiSUKN & Cv... Patent -ittor iiC>.... W?sbiL'gton, h. <:..;.- their JJ,?00 prize off' j audilif >i two hundred inventions v/unted. i The Fall season is at ?ts close We have finished our stock-taking and find that we have a great many Short Lots, Single Pieces, Dress Patterns, emnants, &c. 1 We therefore inaugurate our January Sale, and will dispose of them at a a A word to the wise is sufficient and when we say these goods must go to make way for our. coming Spring Stock, every one knows that they will go Price Will lie ii? ?fojeci. And the wise will reap the benefit. All the Ladies' Cloaks and Capes that are left must go. We will not a carry over a one till next Fall. In our Clothing Store, we are offering special inducements^ $22 00 Overcoats at $17 00 $18 00 *' " $13 00 $15 00 " " ?10 00 y $12 50 " " g 8.00 $10 00 " " $ 6 50 S 8 00 " " ? 5 00 $ 7.00 " " $ 4.25 $ 5 00 " " $ 3 49 $ 4 00 " .? $ -2.98 Men's Underwear. Men's Suits at about half price. Children Suits at Cost. $1.25 Children's Suits at 75 cents, We have a large stock of Men's Red, Grey and Tan un? dershirts and Drawers, all new goods which we will close out at first New York cost. Remember what we say. These goods must move if price will move them as our Spring Stock will be large, and be in. very early. Yours for business. Sumter, S. C All business men wish to begin the New Year with a clean Ledger, and we are prepared to aid them to the extent of selling them all the s eeded at the closest prices. Give us a call and we can supply your needs. A FULL LINK OF Office Supplies, Ink, Etc. THE i PRICES WE OFFER SELL: THE GOODS. I 1 Liberty? Street.