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THE COOSAW CASE.
The State Cannot Consent to the Reu1111
tion o1 M1ning by the Coosaw CounpanY
Unless the Leesees of the State Are
'ermitted to Mine Also.
[Special to the News and Courier.1
CoLUMBIA, 'March 1S.-The phos
phate commission met to-day at 12 m.;
present, all the members. Senator
Smythe came up to represent the Coo
saw Company. 'Mr. H. A. 'M. Smith
and Mr. F. E. Brotherhood also came
up to-day and had a hearing before the
board.
The correspondent of the News i nd
Courier made a proposition that he be
permitted to be present and take full
stenographic notes of the proceedings,
which would also be the property of
the commission. Governor Tillman
announced this proposition, stating
that he personally had no objection.
Senator Smythe also did lot objec.
The objection was, however, made by
members of the board that other news
paper correspondents might ask the
same privilege, and that colored and
incorrect statements might go out to
the press.
Senator Smythe said that he had no
objection to the presence before the
commission of H. A. 31. Smith and 'Mr.
Brotherhood.
The commission has so far given out
all of its proceedings to the press, and
the rule was not broken to-day. Attor
ney General Pope either reads the
minutes of the meeting to the report
!rs or makes an abstract of the same.
The special business of the commis
sion to-day was to consider the. reply
of Mr. Robert Adger to the last letter
from the commission and also to hear
Senator Smythe. The following is the
letter of Mr. Adger:
OFFICE OF THE COOSAW MI-NI. Co.,
Charleston, S. C., March 17, 1881.
Hon. B. R. Tillman, Governor and
Chairman Board of Phosphate Com
missioners, Columbia, S. C.
Dear Sir-Yotir favor of the 16th in
stant, stating that the board were not
willing to arrange with the Coosaw
Mining Company to resume operations
under your supervision nuless other
compaMies were allowed to mine in the
territory claimed by us, is received this
morning.
I regret that we cannot consent to
the conditions imposed by the board.
The proposition of the Coosaw Com
pany was made in good faith as a busi
ness offer, but to be entered into with
out_prejudice to the rights of any
party.
The issue in the case is whether the
Coozaw Company has the continuing
right to exclusively occupy the terri
tory in Coosaw River. This right we
are seeking to enforce in the courts. To
consent, pending the litigation, to
waive this right, and allow that to be
done which we are asking to forbid
will, as I am advised, practically put
us out of court.
Another practical reason also governs
our action.
You must bear in mind that the
million and a quarter of dollars royalty
which we have paid the State repre
sents that many tons of phosphate rock
removed from Coosaw River, more
than the entire amount taken from all
the rest of the State's territory. This
has, of course, seriously diminished
the original deposit.
With careful management and pur
suing the system we have always fol
lowed we hope that there is enough left
to supply us our average production
for a limited time tocome. But if other
companies are allowed to mine in it
under general rights licenses the result
in a short time will be to ruin the re
maining deposit.
The damage to us would be irrepara
ble, and we are sincere in saying that
if such licenses are permitted to mine
until the end of the litigation, expedite
as we may, we would not care to ex
pend the amount necessary to conduct
the suit to obtain a decree securing us
the exclusive right we claim.
As a proof of our sincerity in this
opinion we oflered the board, before
any action was takten by them in this
matter, the use of a complete umining
plant with which to make such a stir
vey and examination of our territory,
under their unconitrolled supervision,
as they might desire.
We are sincerely desirous of making
some arrangement with the hoard. It
appears to us from your letter that this
could be effected, but for the licensees
referred to thereiin. We fail to see why
A their interest should be the cause of
preventing a satisfactory adjustment
*-by which, pending the litigation, loss,
both to the State and the (Coosaw (oma
pany, could be avoided.
I am yours very truly,
RoBER~T AIDG ER,
Chief M1anager of the Coosaw MIining
Comnpany.
MIr. Smythe was then heard, and
afterwards M1r. H. A. M. Smith and
M1r. Brotherhood appeared before the
commission. At niearly :3 o'clock he
commission took a recess until later :n
the afternoon, the impression left on
the press being that the negzotiattions
had been broken oIl.
The rock on which tile negzotiations
were wrecked appears to be that the
Legislature instructs the commiussion
to perform a specifie duty, i. e., to open
up the Coosaw territory to mineirs
generally. Licenses have beeni gratn ted
to several companies to mine in Coo
saw territory under the act. and lhe
State cannot now revoke such licensve
without impairing its obligationms with
its licensees.
The genes:s of the Jitmeulty amue
dates the phosphate cmimission. It l
probably wvastinig time to criticise tin
phonhate connision, wvhih is
Ireation of anl act of the Legislature de
liping both its powers and duties.
MNr. H. A. M. Smith, after the ses
si:m. would not or could not be inter
viewed-most probably would not.
Senator Smythe said that the lie of
what he had to say was included in the
above letter. Mr. Brother';ood said
that lie would probably have a roasted
duck for supper, whih he said he
would dichotomize, so to speak, with
this correspondeut. The struthio
eamelus, however, does not usually sup
on canards.
AN OFFICIAL REPORT.
Attorney General Pope, secretary of
the phosphate commission, dictated
the following to the representative of
the News and Courier as the substance
of the proceedings before the morning
and afternoon session of the phosphate
commission:
I "The public has been apprised of the
fact that Mr. Adger, chief manager of
the Coosaw Company, had declined by
telegram the proposition made to him
by the board of phosphate commission
ers of this State. In a letter received
by the commission to-day and read be
fore the cormmission the line of thoughit
of the telegram is larged upon. The
proposition that toe don. A. T. Smythe
be beard before the commission waE
acceded to, and Ir. Smythe appeared
to-day and presented his views, the
board hearing him with great atten
tion. _Mr. H. A. 1. Smith also came
before the board, after which an ad
journment was had until the afternoon.
At this latter session the following
resolution was passed:
"Reso1ccd, That Governor Tillman,
as chairman of the board, be requested
to write a reply to the communication
of Mr. Adger this day received.
"The board also requested the Attor
ney General of the State and his assc
ciate counsel, 'Mr. George S. Mower, tc
take su'h steps as to the case nov
pending in the United States Court aw
will protect the interests of the State oi
South Carolina. The board then ad
journed."
Governor Tillman said to-night thal
he would not write the reply of thE
commission to the Coosaw Company
until to-morrow. In the light of thf
occurrences of to-day, however, it doe
not require much ratiocination to infei
that it will be a letter of rejection of th(
overtures of the ( oosaw Company. Ir
fact, it was understood, from Senatoi
Smythe before he left here this after
noon that the proposition had beer
non-concurred in. It was learned alSc
that Mr. H. A. -M. Smith, who, h(
said, represents one of the licensees
appeared before the commissioners thi.
afternoon, and that Mr. Srythe did
not so appear.
Mr. Brotherhood, of the Carolim
Comljpany, which has license to dig it
Coosaw territory, was asked what h(
proposed to do. He said that he pro
posed to obey the law, and for the pres
ent would not go up on the waters o:
Coosaw.
From stray remarks made to-nigbh
it is learned that the attorneys far thn
State do not and will not admit the
jurisdiction of the United States in th<
premises; so there's another brand-nev
howdydo. Attorney General Pope can
not be interviewed on the question as t<
how he will act, as per instructior
of the phosphate commission. Th
curious can, now go ahead and gues
whether the commission will take thn
bull by the horns or the fish by thn
tail. -
MIr. H. A. M1. Smith will lea.i
Columibia for Charleston. His busines
before the commissi-n, which wa
begun at the morning session, was con
cltided in the afternoon at the Execu
tive MIansion, where the second meet
ing was held. A fter hearing MIr. Smitl
the board went into p)rivate session ani
took the action stated above by Attor
ney General Pope.
As the case Low stands the State wii:
either file a demurrer to the jurisdic.
tion of the Federal Court, or answei
the bill already in on i ts merits, neithei
of which may be done until MIay. O:
course, this is providing that no unu
snal or summary process of settlemen1
be empltoyed by the phosphate com
mn:ss:oni. -
OuvERNOn TILLMAN MAKES TIlE RE
i'LY To) TI IE LETTER OF MR. AD)GER.
Ciocu! A, 3arch 19.-By resolutior
of the board of phosphate commission
ers G3overnor Tillman was authorized
to repliy to the letter of MIr. Robert
Adger, whose letter on behalf of thi
Coosaw Company was published to-day
in the Ne ws and Courier. Governoi
Tillman wrote this ultra ultimatum to
night, of wvhich the following is a copy
(O L Ur mA, S. C., MIarch 19, 1891.
To Mir. Robert Adger, Chief MIanage
of the Coosaw MIining Company,
Decar -Sir-Y our letter of M1arch 17
camne duly to hand and was submitted
to t he board of phosphiate commission
ers yesterdlay. We al<o held a confer
enee wvithi Mr. Smnythie, your represen
tative, in which the questions at issui
were faily and freely discussed.
There are in this case two main ob.
jects to wvhich the phosphate commnis
sion miust dlirect its attention in ordel
the State's rights and in+erests.
The issue is not whieti.er the Coosas
Companyv shall have a continuint
rih: to elusively occupy the terri
ory in Coosaw River, as y-ou say, but
iit, wn et her the State~ has nowv, or
sh:dl ever. have. pover' to raise the
roa'ty oin pho sphiate rock.
* econdi. WVhiether the mionopol'
wh~vich woll thuts practicatlly be giver
to: te Co-a Copnv sha:ll be con
1:' the C (oaw aay haOs "a con
tae''wt the State of South Caro
-linia to nerpetually m ine our riches
deposit at 'l a t(n, it is idle t think of
increasing the royalty as against min
ers outside of that river.
And if the monopoly hitherto
possessed by the Coosaw Company, by
means of which it has practically ab
sorbed the Sea Island Chemical Com
pany and the Oak Point Mines Com
pany, shall be allowed to continue, it
is only a question of time when the
other three companies will be forced to
suspend operations or be likewise ab
sorbed.
The main question is as to the right
to increase the royalty, for our obser
vation of the mining around Beaufort
has led us to believe that exclusive
rights are not detrimental to the State's
interests and that it would be best for
the State and the miners were all the
mining done by one company.
I would call your attention to the
fact that youroffer to allow us the use
of one of your dredges with which tc
test and make examination of the ter
ritory hitherto occut ' d by you could
not be accepted, because the offer in
volved the payment by the State of the
mining expenses and promised so little
practical knowledge that we did not
feel authorized to make such expendi
ture.
Whether there is much or little rock
in the Coosaw River is not at p7esent a
matter for our cons;deration. Whether
there is a variatlon in grade which re
quires peculiar skill, possessed by your
superintendent alone, to mine profit
ably is not the issue.
The ruinous lawsuit which youi
cowpany has inaugurated, and the
tenacity with which it fights for this
territory, will rather influence men's
opinions as to its value. It was our
earnest desire and hope to have saved
the company from such loss and the
State a decrease of revenue. But the
question by your act has to be decided
by the Courts, and neither the dignity
nor welfare of the State could be main
taimed, as we see it, had we agreed tc
the proposal you made.
Realizing how heavy- must be the
loss to your company in the deteriora
tion of the plant and disorganization of
labor, we would further suggest that
pending the lawsuit, you take a license
to mine outside of the disputed terri
tory along with the other companies
which have been driven out of Coosaw
by the injunction of the United States
Court, as it is possible you may thus
make running expens.;s. This is not a
disinterested suggestion, but it is made
in good faith. Yours respectfully,
B. R. TILLMAN.
Governor and Chairman Board .hos
phate Commissioners.
IRONY AND INCONSISTENCY.
[Special to The State.]
CHARLESTON, S. C., March 20.-The
Governor's answer to the Coosaw Com
pany create( considerable commen1
here to-day. "he irony of it was en
.joyed and applauded, but the inconsis
tency of its various portions was severe
ly criticised. The Coosaw Corr pan3
maintains a stiff upper lip, to all ap
BEEN VOTING SINCE MADISON'S TIi
And Stopped Drinking Whiskey When Hi
Was Eighty.
PITTSBURG, March 15.--Westerr
Pennsylvania has some very old citi
zens. Jacob Steel, of Masontown, Fay
ette county, is 102 years old. He votet
for James Madison, and has voted foi
every Democratic Presidential candi
date since. Mr. Steel lives with his
daughter, Mrs. Sally Bise, a well-pre
served lady of 75. His age is authenti
cated by his first marriage certificat<
and by the records of an old-time jus
tice of the peace which are still extant
His first marriage occurred in 1812
when Mr. Steel was 24 years of age. H4
never used tobacco, but was a grea
whiskey drinker until his 80th year
when he stopped because the quality o
the liquor sold then in Fayette Countj
had so deteriorated that he could no
drink it. He numbers among hi~
descendants ten children, thirty-eigh
grandchildren, seventy great-grand
children, and some of the fifth genera
tion. Mr. Steel expects to vote for th4
Democratic candidate for President ir
1892.
The A pril number of Dcmorcst'sFam
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c on Physical Culture, by Prof. E. B
Warman, A. M., giving a course o
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traction of this excellent magazine
"The Land of Our.Next Neighbor, The
Care of Palms in the Drawing-Room
How Art Students Live in New York
Giroesque Ways of Decorating Eastel
Eggs, Kite-Flying (or the boys), al
halsonely illostrated. several capita
stories, a line article on Thinness-It
Causes and Cure,by Susanna W. Dodds
M. D.. are a fewv of its other features
and there are nearly three hundrec
illustrations, including a full-pagt
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around "family" magazine, this onE
cannot be beat: there is something it
every number for father, mother, anc
every one of the children: nnd it if
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fings Dermorest, 1.5 East 14th Street
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this powerful- altatdive gives tone anc
strength to every function and facult:
NEEDED IMPROVEMENTS.
The Report of the City Fathers of New
berry ov Water Works and
Electric Lights.
At a meeting of the citizens of the
town, held January 22ud, 1S91, it was
referred to the Mayor and Aldermen
to ascertain and report to a future meet
ing, to be called by the chairman, the
feasibility of having both water works
and electric lights in the town of New
berry.
According the Mayor and Aldermen
have procured such information as they
could with reference to the matter re
ferred to them.
Mr. Wm. C. Whitner, a competent
civil engineer, and part owner of the
water works and electric plant of the
city of Anderson, visited our town,
made some surveys, and inspected the
sources of water supply, and at the re
quest of Council wrote the following
communication:
"In reply to your request to give you
some idea of the cost of a system of
water works and electric lights for your
city, I beg leave to submit the follow
ing:.
"A system of water works giving
your city complete protection from fire
and furnish an abundant supply of
water for domestic purposes would cost
about $48,000. Sush a system would
extend all over the city, and give pro
tection through about 60 double nozzle
hydrants. The ordinary pressure from
the stand-pipe in the business portion
of the-town would be about 55 pounds,
which would throw a stream 75 feet
high. The pumps would be in dupli
cate, and of such capacity as to furnish
not less than four (4) hydrant streams.
"A system of electric lights, furnish
ing both are and incandescent lights
for streets and domestic lights, would
cost about $15,000. Such a system
would consist of duplicate machinery,
and would be so arranged that the
street lights could be operated indepen
dent of domestic lights and vice versa.
"If both plants were combined so as
to be operated together, they could be
built for $60,000, and this would be far
the most economical arrangement for
operation. With both plants combined
you ought to be able to get your streets
lit by elictricity for about the same sum
you are now paying, besides giving
your citizens an opportunity to light
taeir business houses and residences
with this convenient and superior
light. One of the greatest advantages
arising from combining -the plants, is,
that your engineer is always at his post
during the night with a full supply 'of
steam, and can on a moments notice,
put his pumps to work, in the event
there should be a large conflagration
exhausting the supply of water in the
stand-pipe and thus decreasing the ef
factive pressure. This arrangement is
very desirable, and is apt to have con
siderable w-eight with insurance com
panies in reducing their rates."
Mr. J. L. Fitzgerald, a civil engineer
'of Schenectady, N. Y., writes as fol
lows:
"The probable cost of a cheap system
of water works for your city will be
about $40,000. This includes every
thing. Should you wish a better fire
protection than the above estimate will
effect the expenditure of $10,000 more
will give one of the best in the country.
The electric light plant will cost from
$8,000 to $10,000, depending upon the
number of lights and the system
adopted." -
The above estimates are based upon
the idea that the town would own and
operate the plant. To do this the town
would have to issue bonds by act of the
Legislature covering the amount of
$80,000, or whatever sum might be
agreed upon, thus entailing a tax for
the yearly payment of the in terest there
on, less such sums as might be realized
in the way of income from private con
sumers after paying running expenses.
What this income would be would de
pend entirely upon the success with
which the plant could be run, the
amount of patronage from private con
sumers, &c. It might be made so sue
cessful as greatly to decrease the tax
necessary to pay the interest on the
bonds, but it is a question as to how
far municipalities are prep)ared to oper
ate such works successfully.
Another, and possible a better plan
by which we may have both electrie
lights and water works, is to give to
some company a franchise for a num
ber of years, granting them the exclu
sive privilege for such number of years
of operating such works, and con tract
ing on the port of the town to pay so
much each year for water and lights.
Such an arrangement exists at Afider
son, Spartanburg, and in other towns
and cities of the State, and wou!d cost
our town anywhere from $3,:5(I( to
$4,500) per year, decreasing possibly for
a number yt ars as the income of thme
comp)any is inicreasedl by individual
consmers. An act of the Legislature
would be necessary to raise the income
for this purpose as wve niow go to our
charter limit in the matter of taxation.
In this connection it will be well,
probably, to read a p)roposition~ made
by Mr. Paul Hemphmill to the town of
C1'.ter as illustrative of the idea above
advanced.
MR. H EMPHIL L's PRoP~oSITION.
STATE OF SorTH CAROLINA,
COUNTY OF CH ESTER.5
To the Mayor and Wardens of the
Town of Chester, in CQunty of Ches
ter and State aforesaid :
UENTLEMEN : I, Paul Hemphill, of
the town and County of Chester and
State aforesaid, whose name is hereto
attached, -acting for myself and my
assigns, herewith respectfully ask you
to grant me, my heirs and assigns the
which I hereby make certain propo
itions as specified below:
Ist. I ask the privilege to use the
present and future streets, alleys and
:horoughfares, of the town of Chester,
-. C., for the purpose of laying water
ind gas pipes, hydrants, laterals, checks
ind valves, and the erection of lamp
posts for gas and poles or posts for car
ying electric wires and lamps for light
ind wires for connections and power.
2nd. In consideration of the great
-xpense we will be obliged to incur and
he improbability of such works paying
inything above expenses for some
rears to come, and the benefit and sav
ng it will be to the citizens by reduc
ng the rates of insurance, and also in
onsideration of the further sum of
wenty-five dollars which I will pay
o the town of Chester, S. C., on de
mand, I ask that this privilege be made
xclusive for thirty (30) years and that
Jhe property and works which I or my
ssigns may erect in connection with
he conduct of the said works, be re
eased from all town taxati:n for the
period of five years from their comple
ion. Furthermore, that when the
ras mains are laid or the eieetric light
wires are placed, and either or both
Alants are running, the town will agree
o use either the one or the other or
both, as the case may be, to light the
streets, alleys or thoroughfares in
place, as far as possible, of the present
asoline lamps, provided the light fur
aished by me or my assigns is good.
3d. Whenever excavations are made
7or the laying of pipes, laterals, hy
drants or posts or poles on any of the
treets; alleys or thoroughfares of the
.own, the said streets, alleys or thor
)ughfares shall be left in as good con
lition as before the excavations were
made.
4th. On the granting of these privi
leges, a charter under our State laws
will be applied for, and a joint stock
company will be organized to be known
s the Chester Water, Light and Power
;ompany, for the purpose of supply
iug the Inhabitants of the town of
Clhester with water, lights and power.
The water to be used for general and
ire purposes, the lights to be either
as or electric or both, to be used
ither for public or private purposes,
ind the power either to be gas or elec
tric, to be used for any purpose to
which such power may be applied.
5th. In the formation of the joint
tock company the citizens of the town
f Chester shall have for 30 days after
the books of subscription are opened
the' right to subscribe to the stock of
the company before outside subscrip
tions shall be received.
th. Should work not be commenced
on construction within twelve months
from the granting of the charter then
this priviege shall be null and void,
otherwise to remain in full foice and
effect.
7th. Should the town at any time
during the exclusive privilege granted,
desire to own the plant or plants that
may be erected by me or my assigns,
it may acquire the same by paying for
it, at a valuation to be fixed by arbi
tration of three experts, one of whom
is to be chosen by-the Town Council,
one by nie or my assigns, and the
third by the other two.
8th. That I, my heirs and assigns,
shall have two years within which to
complete for use the water works and
one or the other plaats for use; and
that I, my heirs or assigns, shall have
three years from tbe granting of the
privilege with,which to complete the
plant for the other light work and
power, and that in case said plant is
not completed within the three years,
that the privilege as to that light and
power shall lapse for non uses, and
that I, my heirs and assigns, shall fur
nish water and lights at rates comnmen
surate with the rates charged for said
water and lights by other companies
with like privileges by other towns of
like size in this State.
PAUL HDMIHILL.
At the request of Council two civil
engineers have examined the sources of
water supply for the town, and both
agree that either branch of Scott's
Creek, striking themi at a point above
the town so as to avoid con tamination,
wvill furnish an abundance of water,
and a committee of Council who visited
te city of Anderson while investigat
ing this question reports that the water
suplly for that city comes fronm a creek
like in size and location to Scott's
Creek. and that the wvater works in
Anderson~ seems to be very successful
and quite satisfactory to the citizens.
The only other source of water supply
is from artesian wells, or a system of
driven wells, but as to the cost of these
we have been unable to get any deti
nie informnationi for the reason that we
have no such wells in our section of
the counit ry. If our water suplyv could
be had from such wells it mnigh t prove
much more acceptable t han water from
the creek, or from any other surface
source. The difliculty is as to the un
certainty of procuring it, and the proh'
atle largely increased cost.
As before said, a committee ofCon
eil visited the cityv of Anderson. This
mompittee was highily pleaised with
the vater works. The city is lighted
by the incandescent system of lighting
which, while far superior to the old
systems of l ighiting by lamps, (lid not
conie up to the expectations of the
comiittee, and the commnittee was im
pressed with the fact that arc lights,
especially on the more p)ublic thorough
fares, would have beeni far better. A
con.hiation, if possible, of the two
system~i would be better-the arc lights
to :e used miainily for street lighting,
and the ineandescent light for build
The C'ouncil has'. received a vast nunm
number of communications from par
ties interested in water works and elee
tric lights, but none of thenm con tam
information moore deli nite thani is con
tained in this report. Ilespectfully sub
:ite by Tim: CousctL.
GEN. WADE HAMPTON.
lor
Candid and Interesting Talk With a Col- I
ored Journalist. StU
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[New York Sun.] cec
PETERSBURG, Va., March 16.-As '
the Coast Line limited express slowly dic
crawled out of the Baltimore and Poto- for
mac depot at Washington the other -,oi
morning, I became conscious of two in- ho:
teresting facts, Gen. William Mahone
of Virginla, and Gen. Wade Hampton pe<
of South Carolina were passengers sisl
with me. Further, I found to my sur- tor
prise that Gen. Wade Hampton and
myself occupied the same section in rey
the Pullman sleeping car. Gen. Ma- th(
hone and his family oecupied the sec- thi
tion opposite to us. He got off at Al- pe]
exandria. He does not spend much
time at his Petersburg home now, but
he lives at the national capitol and ha
makes frequent excursions to Alexan- Po
dria. Every one with whom I have hit
conversed appears to believe that the cal
political grip of the famous Readjuster crc
has been loosened, and color is given to mc
this opinion by the fact' that he is no for
longer active in affairs in the Fourth we
Congress district, where there is war to hil
the knife between him and Col. James th(
D. Brady, the Collector of Internal for
Revenue and member of the National of
Republican Committee, and Congress- riv
man John Langston, whom the black ms
and colored voters swear by. sid
Gen. Mahone does not appear to
have grown old fast during the past
eight years. His long hair and expan- kn
sive beard are slightly streaked with pe,
gray, but his step is quick and light, thi
and he seems on mighty good terms 1
with himself. His overcoat was heav- N
ily fringed with black fur; he wore a a s
cream colored slouch hat, and his gai- na
ters were low cut, setting off his very to
small foot and exceedingly high instep.
After we passed Alexandria I took yo
my seat by the side of Gen. Wade
Hampton and asked him if he would ob
talk on general politics, as he had just fal
terminated his long Senatorial career.
He was not at all averse. He is a very be
venerable and dignified looking man. ex.
His snow white hair, Burnside whis- an
kers, and black slouch hat gave him a -
patriarchal appearance. He wore a suit no
of gray. ful
"I am in favor of free coinage of sil- sei
ver,"-he said. "It should be of the full no
standard measure, however. I don't
think the silver question will be one of ne
the leading questions in the campaign
next year. I think the next Coiigress eh
will dispose of the matter. There is th
sucu a general demand for legislation m;
favorable to silver that it cannot be dis- i
regarded. No; I do not think it will ta:
play much of a part in the next cam- in
paign." H
"What about the Farmers' A llience?' ch
"Well, it will not amount to much er:
in the politics of the future, because its pa
schemes are impracticable and because of
it is manipulated by demagogues. I era
have always been in favor of the farm- VO
ers having more organizations among sh
themselves for their own benefit. I re:
am a farmer myself and naturally sym- ov
pathize with the farmers. I want to th
see them prosper, and .amn in favor of of
any organization among them that to
will effect this result. I do not think
that anything in this line can be ac- in
complished by the Farmers' Alliance. H
On the contrary, I think that it will
work great damage to the interest of
the farmers. The legislative relief they re
seek is class legislation of the simplest
kind, and that sort of legislation is c
always objectionable on general prin- th
ciples and at variance with our maethods t'.
of government." . mn
"What influence would such legisla- tu
tion as the Farmers' Alliance demand w
have upon our system of government." fo
"If it were possible to conceive of St
any such legislation as the Sub-Treasu- re
ry, the bonded warehouse, and other vc
schemes, it would inevitably lead us
into endless confusion and ultimately bc
bankruptcy. There could not possibly P1
Ibe any other result from it. But it m
does not seem probable to me that any~
such legislation is at all possible." e
"General, liow do you account forb
the fact that the South, which has al- YF
wvays been opposed to class legislation
and paternalism in government, has a:
gone Imad over the Farmers' Alliance re
schemes?" ca
"I cannot explain the matter." Sen-p
rttor Hampton replied. "The farmers
have had a hard time of it during the t
past few years. They have not maide
atny money. Th'ley are burdened with M
debt. They want relief, and, unfortu
niately, imlagmne that they can secure It th
from the general (I.vern mnent."
"W\hat iniuenUce' vill the Farmers'
Alliance exercise upon thle Presidential
election next year?"
"Very little, if any. National elee
tionls are only all'eete d. by national
issues. The issues raised by the Alli
anee are local and class rather than na
tionlal. 1 do not think the Presidential
question or next year will be materially
ati'cted by any action the Farmers'
Alliance may take. The tight will be
between the two old parties, as usual." wl
"Has your experience in tihe Senate ab
been a pleasant one?" by
"Well, yes; very pleasant. I do not ag
believe there is a Republican in the ilnl
Senate wvho does not regret that I have an1
been displaced, especially among the t
older ones. My re.lations with both lor
sides of the Senate have beenl most rui
cordial. I think my record has been lar
unlique ill at least one respect. Of the m
5m me1asurIes reported by me, as Chai
man! of the CommIittee on Military
AihlLirs, not one of them was acted de:
upon adversely biy the Senate. no
"What are my future plans, politi- A
ally? I have none. I have done with ad
public affirs. I must now look after sa'
- personal affairs, which have been
g neglected."
3ut the leading newspapers in your
te nominated you for Gove:nor the
ment Irby was nominated to suc
d you in the Senate."
I know that. But I am not a can
ate. I have never been a candidate
anything. I never asked a man to
,e for me. I have not sought public
iors.
But you have the confidence of the
ople of South Carolina. If they in
upon your accepting the guberna
ial nomination, what then?"
This looks like Constance's Neck,"
lied Gen. Hampton, "and that house
re, near the Potqmac, looks just like
one where I had an interesting ex
lence during the war."
What was the incident, General?"
'Well, the same old story; a spy. I
I a man who wanted to cross the
Lomac, but I aidn't know how to get
a over. Well, just then, a man
ne in and reported that a .py had
ssed the Potomac in the early .
rning. We made diligent search
him, with but little success, and we
re about to give it up when we found
a locked up in a box under a bed in
house we have just passed. We
eed him to disclose the hiding r lace
,he boat in which he had crossed the
er, and we used it to send over our
,n who wished to reach the other
e."
'What became of the spy?," I asked..
'I sent him to Richmond. I don't
DW what became of him, but I ex
:t he was-That is a pretty view of
river."
'Presidential candidates? Well, if
w York goes to the Convention with
Mid delegation it will get the nomi- t
ion; if not the nomination will go
the West."
'What Western man have you in
ir mind's eye?"
'Oh, none in particular. The most
;cure man in a break away from the I
orites usually captures the honor." I
'What do you think of Gov. Camp
I of Ohio, Gov. Gray of Indiana,
Congressman William R. Morrison,
d Gen. John M. Palmer of Illinois?"
'They are all good men; but I have
thing to say as to their candidacy,
-ther than if New York does not pre
it a solid front in the convention the
mination will go to a Western man."
'What about the Speakership of the
Xt House?"
'I think it would be a mistake to
ct a Southern man as Speaker. I
ink some good Northern or Western
in should 'he selected. I think the
mocratic party made a.great mis
ie in the Fiftieth Congress by elect
a Southern man as Speaker of the
)use and by giving the pricipal
airmanship of committees to South
1 men. Again,I think the Democratic
rty made a mistake in the campaign
1888 byflogdingtheNorth withSouth
i speakers. It is a bad policy. The
ters resent it. If Northern speakers
ould be sent into theSouth we should
ent it. We kudy more about our
en aflairs than outsiders do. I th.ink
e Northern voters resented the fact
our sending them Southern speakers
instruct them in 1888.
"Then you are not in favor of elect
a Southern man Speaker of the
>use of the Fifty-second Congiess.
'Emphatically no."
'What is your opinion of the future
ations of the races in the South?"
'Most hopeful. I agree with the re
~at opinion of Senator Carlisle that
ere will be less and less of friction be
'een the races; that they will come
are and more to understand the mu
ility of their interests, and that they
11l more and more co-operate together
Sthe common good. In my own
ate the coloreed people have great
spezt for me. and in any division of
tes, caused by the position of the
armers' Alliance, I am sure that the
st elements among the colored peo
Swould co-operate with the best ele
ants among the white people."
"That being the case, would you not
'l it a public duty to accept the Gu
rnatorial nomination if offered to
u?"
'I mlust straighten out miy personal
airs," replied the General: and he
illy looked as i: he wishedI not to be
ied upon to make other sacrifices
ejudicial to his personal interests.
"No: I have no regrets in leaving
blie life. I have tried to do my du
,My relations with colleagues in
e Senate have been most pleasant.
p. publie life all the way through has
en regulated by a strict regard for
e exactions of the duty imposed upon
y, and 1 can not but feel that I have
vays labored for the piubiie good, ac
-ding to my light.~
As the cars sped away southward1 I
ild not but think pleasantly of the
cold type of Southern gentleman.
T. Tr'oMas FoRTU-NE.
The Wrecked Locomoativc.
L('olumabia Record 21'th.1
ocomotive "No. ?52," a coal buriner,
iich was wrecked on the C.& G. Road
>ut fourteen miles above Columbia,
running into a washout some days.
>, was brought to the city this morn
eand will be placed in the Richmond
. Danville shops here at once for re
rs. WVhen Master Mechanie~ Green's
ee get to work on the 252 it won't be
g before she will be in first classi
ining trim and be making her regu- t
trip) over the road again. The loco
ive is not near so badly damaged as
s at first supposed.
~or the cure of colds, coughs, and a
angemient.s of the respiratory or
other medicine is so relia
er's Cherry Pectoral. It re -
hmatic and consumpti N
lanced stages of di - -
wed innumerable 11 -
GEORGIA CENTRAL GONE.
'he Richmond and West Point Terminal
Octopus Scoops it in.
[From the New York Sun.]
A rumor exists in Atlanta for the last
ew days to the effect that a large move
tient was on foot as to the disposition
f the Central Railroad of Georgia. It
said that the Terminal Company will
ase the Central for 99 years. Pat Cal
Loun will go to Savannah this week
nd will discuss the matter with the
flicers and directors of the Central
tailroad there and with Gen. Alex
.der. On the rumor that the road
vould be leased for 99 years, the stock,
vhich has heretofore been selling from
10 to 112. has advanced to 118 and 119.
'here is no doubt that the subject of
be lease is now under discussion, and
he terms proposed guarantee 7 per
ent. net on the stock of the Central
>ayable semi-annually. It is under
tood that the lease will be made under
he name cf the Georgia Pacific road
nstead of the Terminal Company. This
vill make a continuous line from
;avannah to the Mississippi River at
Xreenville where the road will connect
vith the Gould system and with their
oads running direct to the Pacific
)cean. It is not improbable that solid
rains will run from Savannah to the
Pacific coast within six months. It is
inderstood that Mr. Gould is very
nuch in favor of the lease, and says it
vill be a greai move toward the devel
ipment of Savannah as a great port.
'his will also give a short line from
5avannah to Washington via Augusta.
THE DEAL MADE.
SAVANNAH, March 18.-The lease of
he Central Railroad of Georgia to the
tichmond and West Point Terminal
3ompany in the name bf the Georgia
?acific Railway was practically decided
ipon at a mecting of the Central Rail
-oad directors here to-day. The Termi
ial's' proposition was discussed and
-eferred to a committee, which agreed
ipon the terms of the lease to-night
rhe lessees will take the road and as
ume its indebtedness, and will guar
Lntee the stockholders 7 per cent on the
:apital stock, which is $7,400,000. John
E. Inman, Hugh Inman, Samuel In
nian, John C. Calhoun. Pat Calhoun,
harles H. Ph.nizey and Mr. Swant of
Sew York, were at the meeting to-day.
President Inman left her to-night for
&ugusta. He will be in New York
2ext week, where the lease will be con
aemated. It is said to-night thatevery
,hing will be transferred in about two
weeks. The lease of the .Central will
will give the Georgia Pacific a through
ine from Savannah to the Mississippi
River.
AN INTERESTING RAILROAD RUMOR
[Special to News and Courier.]
COLUMBIA, March 18.-A trustwor
hy visitor from the Peidmont is au
hority for the statement that
something specially noteworthy now in -
progress with the Richmond and Dan
ville and the Georgia Central railroads.
Re believes that Capt. S. V. McBee,
president of the Richmond and Dan-A
ille, is about to be elevated to even a
igher position than that which he now
so ably fills. He says that the visit of
Capt. Mc.Bee to Georgia, which was
reported recently in the News and
Courier from Columbia, means a great
eal. Capt. McBee, he says, visited Au
gusta and was to leave Atlanta to-night
for Asheville.
He said that one of the shippers in
Greenville said that the instructions
now were that it makes no difference
to the local agents whether goods be
shipped by the Richmond and Dan
ville or by the Georgia Central. This,
he said, means something, as he under
stood and others understood that
has been business rivalry between the
roads. The information of the infor
mant is that Mr. Inman is to get the
place now held by Mr. Cecil Gobbett,
and that Capt. McBee is to be given a
position to include the business direc
tion of the Georgia Central and the
Richmond and Danville. There may
not be anything in the logic of the
deductions, but it is interesting all the
same.
La Gri ppe Attacks 250 soldiers at Once.1I
MINNEA POLIS, March 1.-A special
L the Tribune from Omaha says: "250
soldiers at Fort Omaha are down with
La grippe. The hospital is filled with
sick men."
4,000 DowS WITH TH E GRIP.
PITSBURG, March 20.-The grip is
:horoughly epidemic in Pittsburg and
Eully 4,000 eases are reported. Several
f the most prominent physicians are
laicted, and at every business firm
.umbers at least one down with the
lisease. Among those whose death can
>e directly attributed to grip is Alder
nan Cassidy, well known in city affairs,
vho died to-day. The disease is far
nore aggravated than ever known
iere.
Again the Belied Buzzard.
[ From the Philadelphia Press.]
LANCASTER, March 8.--The famous
'beled buzzard," which has been
n various sections of the coutry
auth as Georgia, has made
nce in the lower end o
Villami Johnson of o
stuck and Benja p
lence townshi ead
inctly hear
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e only DISCRIMINA.
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