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■PJ ’ ® *r; ifl WETHER THOMPSON AND SAUNDERS LABORED HABMOklOtjSLT Of coum. ■ _ Tiny RoaWanged Card Index. / Q- Q. Well, yon knew that I not Only work 1>nt the white and colored men. but also the white and. colored women? | ordinarily Yes, m&’m. - — was no objection jQ. And there raised. A. tfo. FIRST ASSISTANT TALKS Dr. Saunders Skillfully Cross-Exam ines Dr. Thompson, Causing Him to Admit That They Worked To gether Harmoniously in the Inter est of Asylum. Following is the official steno graphic report of the cross-examina tion Saturday of J. L. Thompson, M D., first assistant physician. State Hospital for the Insane, by Eleanors B. Saunders, M. D„ second assistant physician: Dr. Saunders: Dr. Thompson, heUere you told that you and I work ed harmoniously? A. We never had a word. • • .* • Q. Each lent a helping hand? A Yee, ma'am. Q. And you and I have worked more harmoniously together than any other two? A. Yes, ma’am. Q. And you and I have worked more closely together than any Other two? A. Yes. Q. And spent more time together naturally, from working in the office? A. Yes, ma’am. Often Exchanged Ideas. *0. We have exchanged more Sas? A. Yes, more ideas than any others. Q. And whenever you conceived a new plan for improvement, didn’t you glvg It to m.e?_ A. -Yes. Q. And didn’t I always give you mine? A. You always did, cheerful ly. Q. And, after all, ours was a .kind of a feeling of co-operation? A. Cer talnly. Q. When I began to supercede you as you say, did you object In any way? A. Not at all. T didn’t object because, as I stated, I said nothing on account of bxlsetlng Q. Didn’t you rather think it was helpful for the two of us to work to gether? A. Yes, ma’am, I admit that. Q. Did I object to the stenogra phers doing your work? A. Not open ly. I never heard of your objecting Q. You have no reason to believe .that I objected secretly? A. No. Q. Then you tried as hard to keep up your work as I did mine? A. Yes ma'am. Q. I found no objection to your ward improvsments? A. But by your insisting on her keeping up your work kept mine underdone. Q. Well, as a Superior officer, could nqjt you have insisted on her doing your work? A. Rather than to bring about friction, I allowed the thing to go on. Purchase of Supplies, Q. Will you tell me how we bought medical supplies from afar, not from Columbia? Who does the ordering ..from afar? A. It is meide up gener ally here at the office and then sent to Dr. Babcock, as I understand. _Q. When we order by catalogue dQ£Bfl,’t each one look over the cata- a’and get what he would like? Vhaven’t done it now for a long time, except for one instance recently I gave the order, but I have'never gotten it yet. • -—• Q. Well, Dr. Babcock did the or dering? A. My objection was that was never consulted. I knew, that Dr. Babcock gave the order, but the things were looked up by some one else than myself. Q. Well, couldn’t you have made up your orders from any company that you wanted and wouldn’t they have been gotten for you? A. I be lieve they would; no doubt that they would. Q. Did you know how I did when I wanted anything? A No, ma’am Q. You know, I am sure, you re member that Mr. Bunch said that he would rather not have the medical supplies come under his contract sys tem? A; I do not remember that Ward Improvements. Q. When we had ideas of improve- takihg your ward for acute patients from Hie fifth to the seventh? A. No Q. Has there been any interdepart mental changes in which you were not consulted? A. In my department? Q. In the whole institution. Have Ire ever changed the bell or anything libs that, that we have not asked you or. Mr. Austin, or both? A. I do not know anything like that 0. You approve^of systematic ex amination of patients'? A. I do. K Q. When the diet kitchen was or ganlzed, didn’t your patients get food In Bsoportion to mine? A. Yes, ma’m, ■ I know they did. u were, willing to adopt the present record system? A/Yes, ma’m mroworaar index; system in the general 4 A. I do. . Q. Yon don’t object to its being pnt tn good condition? A. No, m‘am. Q And. yon didn’t object to my helping the stenograph*! did yon? No ma’m. -V ; ’ ~ Foa knew that I <18 It? A. I Q. It was not .anybody’s special I work, was It? A. No. > found it convenient ment for the patients? A. I have heard no objection. Q. Has It been a source of com fort and diversion for them? A. It has been quite a source of comfort to mine, I know. Q rvvsTi/: . T— — * iilntwy white male paty white male nursee? A. Yee. ma’m. Q. Hava yon ever asked tor piles that you did not get? A I sorry to say that we did not gfet patch work. MR LINCOLN GROUND ROKEN FOR MEMORIAL TO DEAD WAR PRESIDENT. «« ,uw ITl n> * • lww ’ ““ *• T -- WILL BE WBVrir TOKEN ma’m. _ VI . . -- . , Q. If yon eall lend enough yon ue-| Q Nobody objected to my amuse- L^y ^ what 70n wanted, did you Are Oonnect- not? A Yes, in a way I got it Q. And yog didn’t feel that you I were In any way required to ask me for whst you wanted, did you?| Wouldn’t yon get It as well as I? Latterly I have appealed to you. to be partly seresaed from Nat: «h#»b*r by means of a Ionic enigmas. Surrounding the walls these memorials to the man, Is ned a eollbnaade forming n symbol of the onion, each column a state—30 In all—one tor isting at the time of Uneoia’e death. On the walla above the eollonaade supported at Intervals by taglen will he 48 memorial fmtooas, one for each mate now existing. By means of terraces the ground on which the memorial will will be raised nntil the building Itself Do you\ remember when I at- cau8e j k Be w you were In charge of tempted the improvements in the| the dlnlng white male dining room? You didn’t ■ w. V'-.v ; • * mi-. v rr ^ W “ h ^ W «* be ?6 ieet Aer than thi pres. Structure to Commemorate Mar- tyred President's tdfe—Description of What is Planned. WANT* THEM TO KNOW GRADES OF COTTON. Point With a Set of Ground was broken at Washington . Q. In the ordering of drugs, could I recently the anniv reary of the object, did you? A. No, except i“| no t you have Ordered what you Want-1 birth of Abraham Lincoln, for the this way—that is all right, excuse me Has there eevr bee nany objec- Lincoln Memorial, a $2,000,000 vill take that back. tlon to your white male patients hav- structure, the purpoee of whose de- Q. You didn t object to my giving I lng ^y ^lad of drugs that they need- signers Is that It shall stand through you a graduate trained nurse for your ed t A j doJl ot i aia n ot know time as an example of the beet In dining room? A. No. * of w hat wds being ordered. Probably! architecture and sculpture that this Conditions Improved. some things that were ordered 11 age could produce. Q. And didn't you feel that she has I would need but would not order it ifl There was no formal ceremony Improved conditions there? A. I do. It wasn’t there. In other words. I ?®tt| connected with the .beginning of the Q. And don’t you think th$ expense that I should have been spoken to in wor k f or the reason that there was was well worth while? A I do. Those regard to It, through respect and to not aa ffl c lent time between the com- things I was not consulted about, be familiar with what was gotten. I pietlon of the details of signing the but still I approved them. Trained Employee. j contracts and the birthday anniver- Q. You know why I did that? A. q. Whenever there was a new em- sary of the martyred president to For an Improvement ploye in the office, did you ever oh- arrange a program of sufficient ex- Q. Do you know .under whose or-Meet to my training in ttfe new em-|cellenee to mark the opening of a ders I did It? A. I suppose under Dr. p] 0 ye and giving you the use of the work of such magnitude and senti- Babcock. I think In my department old trained employe? A. No, mental Importance. So it was debid- It would have been well enough to q. go it was my part to train In the I ed to let the ceremonies go over until consult me. I would have raised no I new employes? A Yee. the laying of the^ cornerstone. For- objection. • f Q. DldnH you get the full benefit of mer President Taft, chairman of the Q. Didn’t I talk daily with you anA the training? A Sometimes. I am not! Lincoln memorial commission,’ did Mr. Austin about it, how things were Low. not come to the city to see the work going on, and didn’t Mr. Austin help? q. Well, is that my fault? A- Well start. A. Mr. Austin helped, I am sure. it looks to me like it Is. You Insisted The site, for the .memorial M In !- '’•’’’'ytMI tip and Ij Potomac park on ah ' i axiB”, planned 0. And didn’t all the male nurtes can ilQ t get.mine done. more than a century ago, at one end and patients fall In and help? A. Not q. Did you ever complain to Dr. 0 f which is the capitol, the monu- all, but they helped. j Babcock? A. As I stated in my com-1 ment of the government, and at the Q. But nearly all of them helped? J plaint, I did not, knowing the exist-1 other, more than a mile to thie west, And didn’t a white male patient in fog friction 1ft the management, your department that had a former q. Something was sal<| awhile ago navy service do most of the reorgan- about Miss Davis being sick recently. izatlon? A. Yee, ma’m, he did. Do you know what is the matter with I w7th~ the' ‘LpUoi a7d Q. Do you remember that when it her? A. Well, I can not say posi- 1 y was in good working condition I of-Lively, but I heard that It was mumps, fered to change it for you and you q. Mumps Is an Infectious disease? said, ”1 am very satisfied; let it go a. Yes, ma'm. on as It Is?” A. I remember some- Q. Is it qultpJMr to bring her back thing like that. | to the asylum while the Is suffering A savtaf of $7S,000*00* a year to the cotton grower* of the Sooth, it to estimated by Senator B. D. Smith of Sooth Carolina, would reeult If the amendment he proposes to offer to the agrienRural appropriation bill to adopted. He would appropriate aboot will be planted four $i,o<h>.ow to furnish each shipping ot tree * l«*vlng in point in the Sooth a eat of gevon- ment standard grades of cotton, to gether with a tot of samples showing the spinning value of each grada, to that hereafter producers of cotton might not be deceived by buyers and tor values arbitrarily fixed by cottoa the Washington monument. Still further to the west will be the Lincoln memorial, where It will the Washington monument that would be impossible on any other site, and will be closely related also with Arlington cemetery, where those who fought for the Union are burled. Q. So there was no objection to my w i th it? A. I heard of her being on “ I* J*™!?*® work? A. No, ma’m. Q. Do you remember when Dr. Blackburn came to the hospital? A. I remember about the time. Laboratory Work. Q. Do you remember that Dr. the street for two or three weeks be-, fore she came back. memorial bridge Unking the Lincoln Memorial with. Arlington. . . , The design of the memorial Is the Q. Do yon know under whose care work of Henry Bac<m a , Ne# York 8 « W -S 8 w °" * r vu architect, approved by the memorial Q. You know that I have always] ___ commission. -His Idea was that the memorial to Lincoln should be com- a man, a memorial of his Gettysburg apeqeh, a memorial of hli second in cared for the women, the laundry wo- Blackburn came in and offered to dol men and all? A When they were onl p 0 7^ o7fourieaturee^*staUto*of work for us? A. That is what he was toe premises, there for. I . Visited Sick Nursee. Q. Well anyway he offered to do I q. And. you knew In the white w©-| augural address, and a symbol of the It? A. Yee, ma’m. men’s department that when they United States which-he preserved. Q. Dr. Blackburn was able to do were sick I went out to see them? A Each feature will be related to the all of the work.that you asked? A.I j can aot say that you visited them others by means of design and posi- He did all of the work that I asked. 1 - ~ , i Q. When I was doing some labor atory work did yon object to my dol ing some for yon? A. No, ma’m, I did not. ent grade. First a circular terrace 1,000 feet In diameter will be raised 11 feet above the present grade and on Its outer edge concentric rows the center a plateau 785 feet in diam eter—greater than the length of the capitol. In the center of this plateau surrounded by wide, roadway sad walks wlU rise an eminence support ing a stone terrace wall 14 feet high, 856 feet long, and 186 feet wide On this terrace will stand the memorial building ot white marbel, Its Unes of pure Greek beauty reflected in the waters of the lagoon at the foot of the broad step*. The movement for ? this memorial was started in 1801 by the late Senator Cultom of Illinois, Lin coln’s friend, who died only a tew weeks ago, just too soon to enable him to see the fruition of his pur pose. From 1808 until last year the plan was In progress, final action hav ing been taken nnder another bill In troduced by Senator Cnllom la 1810 the memorial should take were aub- mitted and considered, among them Various suggestions as to the form an arch on Meridian Hill, a memorial at Fort to coffnect Potomac park with Arling ton cemetery, and a government road to Gettysburg. At times there was It Is notable that the site, finally considerable feeling displayed in the controversy. selected by the commission of fine arts, the memorial commission and Congress Itself, Is the one first rec ommended by the park commission under the act of 1902. Many of the objections made at‘that time to the site have passed with the years. The city had not developed so far in that direction at that time, the site was not so easily accessible and the ground was much lower and more swampy The members of the Lincoln mew- orial commission are: William B. Taft, ebairtoan; Joseph C. 8. Black burn, recently appointed to fill the vacancy left by the death of Shalby M. Cullum, Joseph G. Cannon, Oearge Peabody Wetmore, Samuel Walker McCall, Champ Clark, and Thoaae 8. Martin. J rofeesionally, but I knew that youjtlon and each will bn so arranged ent to see them otherwise. I that It will become an Integral part Q. Well, do you know that I didn’t of the whole in order to attain unity have charge of Miss Davis when she! aB <i simplicity In the monument. . wu sick? A. No, 1 do not know who j Bach feature is meant to Impress the And 1x1 the meantime, when waa her physician. beholder with Its greatest force, and Dr. Blackburn did not do the work q. Well . ^t ft to the benefit of this it is sought to accomplish by and before Dr. Blackburn was ready, the institntlon that she cduld work means of isolation, though not to the didn’t I do some work for you? A. whl i e 8 he was confined to her room? extent of Impairing the relation of Yes, ma’m, I A. It was reported that she was out ^h feature to the others. Q. You didn’t object? A. No, mam. on t he street for .a week or ten days} The- most important singly objecu Q. And wasn t_this case of grave before she came hack. W |n b e the statue of Lincoln, the plan importsjQce? A. Yes, mam. Q. Win you state who reported belng for a 8eated flgure placed wen Q The case of intra-cranial pres- that t0 you? a. j would rather not ln the background of. the largest ^ Y ® u _ kn ? w u and th e work mention the name. chamber. The sculptor has not yet there . A. Yes, ma m. Q. You know that it is so? A. No, j been selected. ’ This chamber will be Q. Do you feel that It was any j on iy bave her statement, disadvantage to the patient? A. I do - q Then It is hearsay? n °t- - - | ma’am Not Less Womanly. A. Yes, Q. And in ttUT work on unoccupied by any other object that might detract from the effectiveness tha-etatue and the visitors will be -it The smaller halls at each side of the central chamber each will contain a memorial, one of the Gettysburg Q. And do you feel that I was any [you knew that we were doing experi- less. womanly for doing It? A I doLiental work? A- Yes. aot. * - j Q.’ And yot^ knew that the mpst Q. And you know It was a Was- recent treatment for this disease I address and the othef of the inaugu- serman test that I did? A. I do not Intravelnous medication? Do you I ra j address, in bronze letters on mon- remember. You did several of the know where It la made? A. Well um ental tablets, while adjacent low \yasserman tests but I do not remem- that part, as I say, has nothing to do re ii e f s win relate in allegory Lin 6er for that particular man. (with this testimony. I will appeal to| coln * 8 qualities as evidenced by those speeches While these memorials will be seen from any part of the hall they are Q. Well, you consented to my doing the It? A. For the patient? I can not re- Hard to Get. call whether for that particular man Q. I just want to bring out that it a Wasserman test was made or not. I is made in Germany and very bard to Q. But didn’t I tell you, after 1 get? A The medicine that she has completed the white female depart- reference to. ment, that every' time I made a run 1 q. I didn’t mean to take this ad- would fill-out the racks with your Lantage of Dr. Thompson. I wanted patients until Dr. Blackburn was to bring ont the fact that }t Is made ready. A. You did. in Germany and it it very hard to Q. May I ask yon when yon wrote import and when we get it we gener- the letter of condemnation that you ally get a good anpply. Didn’t you presented on December 12th? A. It have the full privilege if you elected, was written on the morning. [as well as I? A. 1 way, Dr. Banders, that yon were this work for you? A. I do not re-| giving the okder, order for that par- member whether it waa that week or tlcular medicine; yon came to me, not. It was not long before that. yee; I didn’t aak you; if I wished any Q. You dp not deny that I have? and how much, and, aa 1 already stat- A. No ma’m. | ed, I asked yon to get IS to SO doses.- Gave Help Freely. We spoke about th > different aises, pital? A Not to my knowledge, Q. Hive I ever Jailed to help you In I ® 1 ®- And it la a thing that will fpt any way that you asked me? A. I can I "Poto it will keep. not remember a single time. . Q. When Improvements ware made, clu *ion. any definite conclusion, the extended to them pouvtaslesT was there ever any objection to its d ®Y Ve tpokejUEUtC it? A. I under- That Is the custom. v isl Well, did we. come to any eon :on, any definite conclnsion, the white male de-l 8tood 11 waa a deeded not recall, bo-1 40 get that amount for being extended to the partment? A. I can not cause I did not know all of provements that were being the white female department. Q. How many patients bave- von —vt A. Lhava about 4 - Q. Mow mauy nurses? A Inelnd-j q. And tug night watches I have $8. wanted Q. Have you any white women] didn’t I nursee la your department doing med- Aftar W1 wnrVV A linn* N ded order for you tna. Q. W« | misunde 1 waa that might have been a it A Well, ah tgr waa positive^ leal work? A None. 0, You have no partment rich? A * tin yourde- ; for the to you? bettri Q. Well, the time this unfortunate discussion had come up, do you know how long it had been here? '• A. I had told Dr. Fulmer the day before it was here. Q. Well, Dr. Fulmer got what he wanted? A After fussing about it. Dr. Fulmar didn’t fuss; it was through me. I seat the meeeage to you. Miss IrwUTIras speaking for you. I suppose you had sent a sage by Miss Irwin. Q. Has there ever been any objec tion to any doctor in this State or ont of thla State Visiting in the hoa- Q. We are rather 'filling to have all citizens admitted; all doctors and all county officials, we bare always extended to the: Senator Smith received Saturday frost, the departmaat of agriculture the results of Ha teat ea to the differ ent grades of cotton standardised by the government to determine the Ltorotejamonnt of waste ih converting a given number of hales Into yarn; to estab lish the actual strength of the yarn from each grada; to blsaeh the cot ton and yarn from each grada, and to determine the ooat and result of ths bleaching. Only the "toll grades’' were tested. "Taking the whole ftndlsga,’’ said Senator Smith, "on aa average the difference between the high grades and tha low grades aa now quoted tn the market is from $10 to $15 a bale. sag 4 .t Potomac park with Ariing- UmaU QQ^haif of tha crop at mid dling. This would give 7,500,000 be low the middling grades, and calcu lating that the farmers have lost, be cause ©f the lack of this knowledge an average of -$10 a bale. It would mean an annual loss to the cottoa farmer of $76,000,000.” Middling fair yarn, tasted as to Its strength in tha unbleached form, broke at 69.5 pounds pressure, in its bleached form at 66.7 pounds pres sure; good middling at 63.8 In tha on- bleached form, and at 61.6 tn toe bleached; at 61.4 and In the bleached 63.1; good ordinary at 66.4 unbleach ed and at 60.9 bleached. On the matter ot weals there was .32 par cent In middls fair; 8,48 tn good middling; 10.28 in middling; 18.89 In low middling and 16.47 In good ordinary. - ' ♦ ♦ — HAVE HEATED TILT. Words Pass Betwc Governor and a Newspaper Reporter, Saturday's bearing by the asylum investigating committee waa markad by a colloquy between Governor Blease and Joe Sparks, one of the best known newspaper men of Co lumbia—ofTheAugusta Chrouicle’tJ' Columbia bureau and a member of The Columbia State's staff—who has been reporting the meetings ot the committee. The governor read extracts from the record of the committee’s slons which, he said, sustained his position in the whole matter. He stated that, unless this would be in the printed report of the committee, he wished to send It In a special mes sage to the 1 legislature, as he knew the newspapers would not print H Mr. Sparks arose and said that, If the committee would furnish him copy of the minutes In question, he would gladly publish the vital parts Governor Bljease said, "Yes, and the 'vital parts’ will all be against Governor Blease,” to which Mr, Sparks replied: "The governor may point out what he considers the vital parts.’’ "When I get to be news censor for The Columbia State,” said the gov ernor, "I won’t be on thla earth; will be in hell.” "Yon are damned right,” quickly replied Mr. Sparks. Chairman Mauldin rapped for or der before other remarks had 1 exchanged, and the "exchange of repartee” ended. Augustus Octavios Bacon. Uni tod States senator from Oaotgia tor noar- ninotooh years and chairman of tho foreign relations eommlttoa tines the ascendency ot tha Democratic -j party March 4. 1813, died Saturday ft a Washington hospital after aa Ulnase of ten days. VICTIM OF ODD ACCIDENT. \- Q. And has It' been extended ; to outside of the State? A so. When wo find fte is a loctor we tried to extend to courtesies wa could. doctors thlhk so leal doc all tften Sumter Overseer Killed While Build- lng Wire Fence. I ' J. D. Norris, an overseer on Mr. J H. Myer’s place, several miles west of Sumter was killed Saturday in a-most deplorable aclidenL He was stretching wire to build a fence when. In some unexplainable manner, the fingers failed to catch In the meshes and the lever flew back and struck him on the ample, knocking him unconscious. He died abont two hoars brier withont re- fdal Ihai f»u —d 1 1ft 6he Held Q. And other two i harmoniously? more so torn* L Decided- tor tha 34 wa any at- aitii tho i twenty mimntes,-bet i unable to Teore for Womaa Gave Five children, three boys and twe girls, ware horn Thursday to Mrs. llartha Drury, wife of a. Spencer County. Ky., farmer. Tha girls died. for this genuine Victor-Victrola .bearing the famous^ victor trademark/ —a guarantee Equality f'nm* jo rnnii 'OtSri