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AN ABANDONLI ('11. REV. DR. TALMAGE AMONG TrIE PAL ACES OF INDiA. Three Thing. to See at the Ancient City of Delhi - Tke C:eLhinre Cate-The Paliace of the Mogui.--A odace of Amber-The Clock of Time. BRooKLYN. Dec. S'.-Continning his series of round the world sermons through the press, Rev. Dr. Talmage today chose for his subject Palaces in India," the tect being Aimos iii, 10. "Who store up violence and robbery in their palaces." In this day, when vast sumis of money are being given for the re demption of India. I hope to i!lcrease the interest in that great country anui at the sane time draw for all cIasses of our people practical lessons, and so I present this fifth sermon in tile round the world series. We step into the ancient capital of India. the mere pronunciation of its name sendiig: thrill through the body, mimi am soul of all those who have ever reaI its stories of splendor and disaster ad prowess-Delhi. Before the first historian inre his first word ie clay or ezl Iii r's word on marble or wrote .Iim - word on papyras DelhistootiP! mia. a contemporv of. Babivlon a' n veh. We know that' Deli et longer before Christ's tinie tim ve live after his time. 1lhtlii is huit on the ruins of seven cities, .lich runis cover 40 miles with wrecked temples, broken fortresses, split tombs. tumble down palaces and the debris of centu ries. An archoologist could profita by spend his life here talkig% wit.n t past through its lips of vencrabie ma sonry There are ahundred thiigsher- you ought to see in this city of Dlhi, three things you must see. I thing I wanted- to see w.. mere gate. for that wam-; Ptnk Z.p which the most wond~erfut l de etA daring which the world has ever seen was done. That was the turnig P)omt of the mutiny of lS57. A lady at Del hi put into my hand an oil pamntmg. of about is ~inches square. a pictu re well executed, but chiely valuable. fo what it represented. It was a sce-no from the time of the m-miny-tn< horses at full run larnesscd to a e riage in which were four >rsos She said: "Those persons on the front side are my father and mother. The young lady on the back seat holding in hem arms a baby of a year was my older sister, and the baby was myself. My mother. who is down with a fever im the next room, painted that years ago. The horses are in full run because we are fleeing for our lives. My iother is drivin-g, for - the reason that my father, standing up in the front of mie carriage, had to defend us with his gun, as -vou there see. .ie fought our way out and on for many a mile, shooting down the sepoys as we went. We haA? somewhat suspected trouble and had become suspicious of our ser vants. A prince had requested a pri vate interview with my father. who was editor of the Delhi Gazette. The prince proppsed to come veiled so that no one miigit recognize him. but my mother insisted on being prl5Ont, an~d the interview did not take plac. .A large fish had been sent to our family and four other fanmilies, the present an offering of thanks for the kmg s recovery from a recent sickness. But we suspected poison and did not eat the fns One day all our servants came up and said they must go- and sewat -the matter. \\re saw ~,wt~ intended and knew that if the servants returned they would murder all of us. Things grew worse and worse until this scene of flight shown you in the picture took place. You see, the horses were wild with fright. This was not only because of the dischag ofgnbttehorses were struck'and pounded by sepoys, and ropes were tied across the way. and the savage hallo and the shout of revenge made all the way of our flight a horror." The books have fully recorded the heroism displayed at Delhi and ap proximate regions, but make no men tion of this family of Wagentreibers whose -fight I am mentiomug. .But -the Madras Atheneum printed this: "And now! Are not the deeds of the Wagentreibes, though he wore a round hat and she a crinoline, as wor thy of imperishablel verse as those of th~e heroic pair whose nuptials graced the court of Charlem-ange? A more touching picture than that of the brave man contending with well nerved arm against the black and threatenino fate impending over his wife and c 'ild we have never seen. Here was no strife for the glory of physical prowess or the spoil of shin ing arms, but a conquest of the hu *man mind, an assertion of the powers of intellect over the most app)alling array of circumstances that could as sail a human being. Men have become gray in front of sudden and unexpect ed peril, and in ancient days so much was courage a matter of heroics and mere instinct that we read in imtmor tal verse of h,eroes struck with panmic and fleeing before the enemy. But the savage sepoys, with their hoarse war cry and swarming like wasps around the Wagentreibers, struck no terror -into the brave man's hear-t. His heroism was not -the mecre ebulli tion of despair: but like tha t of his wife, calm and wise, standing uprigL that he might use hmis aram- het er As an incident will -ometimes mocre* impress one than a genelity of state ment, I present the flight of this oie family-from Delhi merely vto illustrate the desperation of the tmes. The fact .was that the sepoys had takien posses sion of the city of Delhi and they were, with all their artillery. tighting back the Europeans whlo were on the outside and murdering all the Euro pens w ho were inside. The city of Dlihsa crenulated wvail on thr~ee sides-a wall 5+ miles long-and the fourth side of the city- is defendedl by the River Jiunna. In addition to the-se tw.defenses of wail and1 wamtr th were 40.000 sepoys, all armed. T we Ive hundred British soldiers wer-e to ta b~ that city. Nicholson. the immortal general, commanded them, and you must visit his grave be-fore you lea ce Delhi. He fell leading his troops. ilc commanded them even after ',eing mortally wounded. You will read this inscription on his tomb: "John Nicholson. who ed the a sault at Delhi, but feid in: the- hou (f . victory mortally wont> ml" !al <! - 23d of September.! la-Ja- .:' :. - With what (Junsi and mnen (0-enra Nicholson could mnuster- he had laid seigeto this walled city with devils. What f xul odds: Twelve hutndr-ed B-troops uncover-ed by any mill v work-s to take a city surround'red by'firm -ad nigh mna.onmry, on thme top of which were 114 gun~s and detfended by 40,000 foaming sepoys. A Iarger percentage of troops fell here th~u i any great battle I happlen to knoo. The Crimean per-centage of the fallen was 17.48, but the pe-rcenltage of Delhi was-37.9. Yet that city must be taken and it can only be taken by uc courage as had ne.ver been recorded(. in all the annars of bloodshied. Eve-r charge of the British regimienlts against the walls and gates had been beaten back-. The bens~ of hindiooism and - iri : Milnv coul do It b vI er o n diad. But Nd a dwtl all ex lil:aa:e~s the page of histtrv f I I is 1. *v .-o whic1 we nowti Wi. eth- woU i red ink. beca-use of the ear'eil rte thm inl letters of lih.for 1te illusriouis deedsW. Wr-1ito tiIem in lurs oF ht11(1. for h bereft. and the de 'I W ilte world ever forweL that Casinee g Lieuitel antS kalkeld -ad I home anld erats Bur1gess. Ca'rmichal mid Smith oier ed to take b:is o ' pwdrt' t the jtItfo of that g-te :-"d s-t iieim onnr11le. blowing opien, 1h e, althoulh'i they mu'st die ill doin it. There they 'A, just after sunris.e, -ch one carrying a sack 'colitainin --1 :Ipou-nds of pow der and doing this unier 'lie ire of the enenv. Lieuten'UHone was tihe first to'jump into 1th d. it which still reinius before.the -Oe. As, thev 0*o OIC by one failsumdt-' sIt alnd shcll. One of th i mru i' wouIded <hefal1s hm ; al "Ic~nk of powder, wtvihl ii hox o)f h:ri' mues to ,:m1 w1mI-l t xpioPn ieh ".at thook the earth .r n-mies anmaiiid part of the Cash ne-i' *at' ws lotwn into fragments. :0 thi imbodhi of seome of these heroes wile so "eatei'ed they were never 1 . iwrd r 1un ieral or grave or ion umnaat. The British army rushed in hrough i te bioken gate. and although x d were necessa ry beforeC the city was inl Complete possession thet criis was last. T he C-ashmere gate open, the capture of DeIhi ndall it contained of palaces and mosqu es aild trea'sures was posSi .Lor( Ntier o Madla a has lifttd a mmm ent netr thi- Ca-ion-re gate wit th na~esOf the me"'n who) thore i incribed thereon. That Engish to :6.- e(mm-n-r*'d and henice this e1notu, . I i T. after :11, the best momuent s te crate itsnelf, With thle dleepigo-Is i1 tie brick wall on the left hand -do m adebyOv tle two bomb she.and Lhe wall alo torn byi ten bombs-he :u'IC te 1 on thel right side defaced. and -sarped and plowed m'd -uil1ed by a11 st ves of long reach in g e r L-t the word O'nsli ner ee."a a- syitny for patioit .1Uill :-id :2- -ss s:1d self sacrifice. go 'am all history.A lat, ill litera -tue. all time. all etvrnit. My friends that kind of courage same itied wttill yet take the whole earth for Go( Indeed the inssionarie<i now at Delhi t eling amid heathenism .and fever and chol era and far aiay from Ioe. id com fort and staying Iere uintL they drop into thir vraves an- Just as 1rve n taking Dehi for Christ as wtere NiCli Soson n'd Home-and. Carmiieeal in taing )el'ii for Great ritain. Take this for t h I irt ser inie, leS.SC i -nothe D ing you must s if youw o o Delhi Ihg youl leave manyv things unse'n. I.s th.e palace of the llo gls.' It isan inelosure L00o yards' by 500. You entr through a v-uted hall nearly 400 feet long. Floors of Florentine mosaic and walls once ei Cir.ded and sapphllired and carbunieled and dianoned. I said to the guide, "*'Show us where once stood the pea cock throne." "Iere it was.- lie re swolnded. All the thrones of tne earth put 'ogethier would not equal that for costliness and brilliance. It hadl steps of silver, and the seat and arms wet-re of solid gold. It cost about 8150.00J0, 000. It stood between t wo peacocks. the feathers and plumes of which were fashioned out of colored stones. Above the throne was a life size p-ar rot cut out of one emerald. Above all wasa canopy resting on 12 columns of old, the canopy fringed with pearlis. Seated here, the emperor _on public occasions wore a crown contamn ing among other things the Kohinoor diamond, and the entire blaze of coro net cost $10,350,000. This superb and once almost supernaturally beautiful room~ has imbedded in the white mar ble wall letters of black marble'which were translated to me from Persian into English as meaning: If on earth there be an Eden of bliss, That place is this. is thIs, is thig, is this. But the peacocks that stood beside the throne have flow" away, taking all the display with them, and those white marble floors were reddened with slaughter, and those bathrooms ran with blood, and .that .Eden of which the Periani couplet on the wall spake has had its flowers wither and its fruits decay, and I thought while looking at the brilliant desolation and standing amid the vanished glories of that thironlerooml that somie one had better change a little that Persian couplet on the wall and miake it readl: If there be a pace where nuch you miss, 'That place is this, is thi<, is this, is tnis. As I came Omut of the palace into the street of -Delhi I thought to myself: Paradises are not built out of stone. arc not cut ini sculpture. are not paint edl in walls, are not faishio.ned out of precions stones, do not spray the cheek with fountains, do .not oiler thrones or' cr'own~s. Paradises are built out of naturles ulifted iind ennobitled. and wh-lat archhitec(ts compahtUs muay not swtteepI and sculptor's chisel mnay not cut. and painter's pencil may not sketch, and gardener's skill may- not lav out, the grace of G4od can achieve, anid if the hecar-t be right all is right. and if 'he herti he wirongall is itwrong. iwii nt e alilt you 't- leave. or eve whit h~uyo hav ititt -inp Indii< t nh m0 tC cll ' mn a 1-ud.--- -is h ;met mosue - ee Ia excep lt R. -ophia at icntnio ple,' but tl supsean soeb e 1pcs for \it -sphia a'ri nli mosquey, ftwh'il ~ is t Delhilt wa orig me it enterted~ 1.neiir oreAlohm I-(d1n were pro- 'rat i~ woit' . seen hee in~te crun attite Ech stn ofth i - r i : et ilongi by 15 the F sha for, hitsl ' ile kneeling The - -rion ilns ul 'd i l reqie Ia'-IllJ. pat: frok as ftilo tower its-n it -a. int t teavns, hre r-a in' :m'd ltonor1- ii meodidfth pr~ieofh e tti it o tlm 'It . i c i' 15 t domesl. with cpre 'tti tie. andr s: minaretf. scend.d ltihunare pd eiht yeirh ago Austin de Bordeau at S1aan je han quit this life, but their or'k lives and bids fair to staild until the (co-11 nelits crack open and the henispheres go down and this planlet showers oth er worlds with its ashes. I rej oe in all thise bg buildiigs, whetlthl'er dedi(ated to 31mdiniumed or Urahma or1 Buddha or Coifuciuis or Zoroaster, becalls)', as St. Sophia at Constaltilnople wasa Christian chu11r'hi changed into 1 o1sjque ald will vit he, elianged back agaim. so all the ios (ics aiid templesof stuperstititioln an1d sin will vet be tunied into churches. When Iidia an(1 CeVlon and China and Jaan are ransonied. as we all be lieve tlley will be. their religious struc tures will all be converted into Chris tIi i avslms and Christian schools and Ciristian libraries and Christian churcles. Built at the expense of superstition and sin, they will yet be dedicated to the Lord Almighty. The strange fact is that a ruler aban doned his palaces at Amberand moved to Jaipur. and all the inhabitants of tIle city followed. Except here and there a house in Amber occupied by a hermit, the city is silent a population as Pompeii or Herculaneum. But those cities were emptied by volcanic disaster, while this city of Amber was vacated because Prince Joy Singh was told by a Hindoo priest that no city should be inhabited more than 1.0() years. and so the ruler, 17( years ago. moved out himself, and all his peol)le moved with him. You visit Amber. on the back of an elephant. Perm ission obtai ned for your visit the day before a Jaipur. an1 elephint is inl waiting for you about sixmiles out to take yout Ip the steps to Amber. You pass through the a'WfulIy quiet streets. all the feet that tr.d th'e in tile days of their activity havinig gone on the long journey, and the voiees of business andl gayetv that sounded amid these abodes having ,lIIgaizo utter'ed their last syllable. You pass by a lake covering .51)o acres I whereithe Rajahis used to sail in their pleasire bIots, but alligators now have fll possession, and you coic to the abaidonled plaice, which is an en chI antment. No niore picturesque 1ace was ever c:osen for the residence of amonarch. The fortress above loons down upon this palace, and the alace looks down upon a lake. This ionarchial abode inay have had at tractions when itwas thehome of roy aity, which have vanished. but anti qouitv and the silence of many years :nd opportunity to tread where once Vou w. Id not have been permitted to tread may be an addition quite equal to the subtraction. I will not go into a description of brazen doorway after brazen doorway and carved roon: after carved room and lead vou under embellished ceil ing after embellished ceiling and through halls precious stoned into wider halls precious stoned. Why tire out your imagination with the particulars when you may sum up all by saving that on the slopes of that hill of'Iidia are pavilions deeply dyed. tasseled and arched: the fire of colored a.Irdens cooled by the snow of white architecture. bathrooms that refresh before your feet touch their marble. birds in arabesques so natural to life that while you cannot hear their voices you imagine you see the flutter of their wings as You are passmnL': stoneware translucent, walls pictured with hant ing scene and tritunphal procession and jousting p)arty: rooms that were called "alcove of light" and "court of honor" and "hall of victory;:" marble. white and black, like a mixture of morning and light: alabaster and lac quer work and mother of pearl-all that architetuere and sculpture and painting and horticulture can do when they put their genius together was doiie here in ages past, and much of their work still stands to absorb and entranuce archoeologist and sightseer. But what a solemn and stupendous thing is an abandoned city ! While many of the peoples of earth have no roof ~foi' their heads, here is a whole city of roofs rejected. The sand of the desert was sufficient excuse for the disappearance of Heliopolis, and the waters of the Mediterranean sea for the engulfment of Tyre, and the lava of Mount Vesuvius for the obliteration of Herculaneum, but for the sake of nothing but a superstitious whim the city of Amber is abandoned forever. Oh., wondrous India ! The city of Am ber is only one of the marvels which compel thle unlifted hand of surprise froni the day you enter India until your leave it. 'Its flora is so flambov ant, fauna so monstrous and savage, its ruins so suggestive, its idolatry so horrible, its degradation so sicken ing, its mineralogy so brilliant, its splendors so uplifting, its architecture so old, so grand, so educational. so multipotent that Inidia will niot be fuli lv comprehended until science has nmade its last experiment, and explora tion has ended its last journey, and the library of the world's literature has closed its last door. and Chiristianity' has made its last achievement, andl the clock of time has struck its last hiouri. A Ponitical tra'wl, SAvANNAH, Ga.. Jan. 2.-A Mforning Newvs' sp~ecial from Blakely. Ga. says The election today was the occasion of a seirious shooting aliray at Colqjuit, 3Miller County. in whicth J. A. Bush on one side a'nd two of th e Kambiell boys on the other were the panrtie en makged. The tr'ouble grew out of somne Eiterence in polities, Bush C hampioii in. thlestra~ihtDemociratic ticket. and was pr-eipitated by B~ush knocking old mian Kaimbi'ell down after heated al ter'eati in. wher'eupon Charlie and Bur' rell K-amlbrell drew the'iir pistols n le'am liring on Bush from oppos~te dire(ctionls at a distance'( of about tell paces. Bush drew his revolver and returne~d the tire, shooting at one of his assaiilants twice and then turiiing and shooting twice at the (ther'. wh en he atn.du faced ab out and fiired thle re maining chimabei' of his r'evolver. and iushied upon01 the onie conlifroninlg him and1( beat himi sever'elyv over thle hiead with the rev'olver. Bush was hlit in :hriiee places, one ball passin g th roughi thle thigh, aniotheri going thriouigh the pahn of thle hand and the thiird enter' ing the left side near' thle hlem t. His wounllds are' exNpeted' to prlove fxaa. Ti ha labredlls escaped w"it hiout serious ijury'. lhe p'artie's ar'e br 4ther's-in law and pr1omineni'it ini 1local athfirls. The'y ied Togethwr. I)EFIANCE. U.. .Ian. 2.-On the 3atnee riv'er, just east of this city Lst night, I lenryv Clemens. aged 213. and 3Miss Lillies Dieis, aged 21, were skati on thle ice near th~e Indiepeind ener' damn, wvhen thiey skated inito an ope'n sp)ace. There were no witnessesc' to the drowing, but seveiral girls who were skaitinig nearhi'leard a cryv an~d sph.ash, andi~ hoirrying to the spot, saw a brokden place in the thin coaiting of ice. whlich covere'td the openi space. Th1ey gave the( alarm11 and ini less than halfl h1our1 the bodiies of the yountg peo~ ple er taikeni from the water. The yotng" coupl e hlad been engtag~ed for sever'al vear's and~ they were to be marie~d in the near' futture. Fit o tile stampih dulties 1)aid( by pa tent nmedicinie malikers it has beeni esti malited tat at least 4.4100.044 ills aire taken byX thle iniha~bitanits of the Unitedc Kingdom every week. In France thle quantity is about half. Only about 1.0004.000 pills are taken weekly by the people of Russia. Thle largest pill takers ini the world are the Atustrali 2. As to the historical evolution of lay representa-jon in our ecclesiastical systeni. The editor says with great emphasis here also that "the veriest tvro in Methodist history also kinows that lay representation in our General and Aiual Conference was granted by the General Conference of 1866. composed exclusively of preachers. and by a two thirds vote. It is simply a filsification of history to say thateven this small representation was granted grudgingly only after a stubborn fght. Let us see whether the editor has all the history with him or niot. Any one who has read in even a cursory way that old standard of 'Methodist literature, the Methodist Magazine and the journals of the successive General Conferences, must recognize the justice of Dr. Abel Stevens' remark in his history of American Method ism (pace 520I. when lie says this ques tion of Ly Representation "has sel doni ceased to agitate more or less American Methodism from 'the first decade of its organization to our day." Are these "simplyafalsification of his tory?" To be specific-the Methodist Iaga zine of 1824 contains (page 574) the full report of the committee appointed in response to nnmerous memo:ials that had beset this and the preceding General Conference, on the subject of Lay Representation. There is some what of asperity in the report denying the request. The memorialists made repeated efforts, and being repeatedly refused, withdrew in 1830, and. ac cording to MeClintock and Strong and other Cyclopedias, organized the Methodist Protestant Church with some 5.000 members, introducing Lay Representation and discarding the of lice of Bishop. Are these all faisifi ers of history. toof The slavery question then absorbed the whole attention of the church, resulting a decade or more later in a Northern and a Southern Methodism. Scarcely had this issue been settled by separation. when the old question of Lay Representation resumed its sway in the General Conference; and the journal of the General Conference of 1854 (page 365) records a resolu tion on the snbject, which, together with several memorials, were referred to a committee. This committee dis p6sed of the petitions in quite a sum mary manner-denying the request and characterizing as revolutionary even the attempt to effect such a change. Is this also "simply a falsifi cation of history?" In the General Conference of S58 the question was again under consid eration and again the Conference re fused to make any change, (See jour nal 1858. page 582). Then came the war and devastation and prostration. After this hiatus, the General Conference of 1866 assem bled. Dr. A. L. P. Green had sent out a circular advocating Lay Repre sentation, and it was warmly discussed in the Annual Conferences-passing most by very narrow majorities. Dr. Green championed the resolution on the floor of the'Genreal Conference. Special night sessions were set apart for discussion of the subject, and the discussions were projected far into the night. I have the assurance of several livmg members of that General Con ference that the measure, after forty years of agitation and one schism, still met with strong and able opposition: and in the final passage was opposed by a strong vote of irreconcilables. Does this look like a spontaneous concession? In view of these incon, trovertible facts is it not the literal truth to say that Lay Representation was 'granted only after a stubborn fight?"" If a flgh:: that extended, as Dr. Abel Stevens says. "from the first decade of its organization to our (lay." more than forty years is not properly styled "a stubborn fight," then I con fess Ido not understand what language means. Now just a word as to Bishop Mc' Tyeire's history quoted by the editor to sustain shis position., I honor and even venerate the Bishop's memory, but that does not relieve me of my re sponsibility to seek truth and to follow it when found. It seems to me that the preponderance of testimouy-Gen eral Conference journals-is against the Bishop on this point, and as an honest man I am compelled to follow the testimony. It is not unusual for people of "ordinary intelligence" to ac cept as gospel tr'uth whatever they may find in "the book:" but I must be ~permitted to say that it is a little unusual and even surprising for one like the editor of The Advocate, who is supposed to know how history is made, and who has access to the sources of history, to predicate a dogmatic assertion upon a single quo tation from a single author without re ference to numerous conflicting data. Was the editor ignorant of these data, or did he assume ignorance on the part of his readers? However this may be. since the editor prefaced his criticism of my statement with an ex pressed purpose to adjure all per'son ality and motive on the part of the "author of this remarkable statement.' I suppose I shall be excused for declining to notice the epithiets. " mean and low" with which lie closed his editorial. JI. WMr. S-rOKEs. Oi'angeburg, July 24th. Note :-It is worth notice that the editor of the Advocate in his anxiety to bi'eak the force of the dliscrimina tion against laymen in the matter of representation on the floor of the An nual Conference pointed out by me, hold that the-General Conference is the only law making body: that the Annual Conference was almost entire lv an executive body, dealing with natters of routine-~and hence the agued) there was no need of larger lav renresentation. In this also hie followed Bishop MIcTycire. Yet when Bro. Herberti made pr-ecise-ly this ar' gument a few weeks ago. in reply to the edhitor's crusade against the Holdi ness Association, the editor holds up hands in holy horr-or at such her-esy. The mierest tyro in MIethodist polity knows that in a large number of mat ters that intimately concern laymen. the Annual Conference has absolute power. The election of editors for chrch papers apportionling the Bish ops' funds, Conference funds, ete.. arc all matters that intimately concern the lay membership who have these funds to pay: and vet 74,000t of them in this State ai'e allowed only 410 rep 'esentatves upon the tl( or of the Annual Conference. which deals with t ese matters. Although salaries have been steadily pushed upwar-d, while the ability of the nmembership to pay has steadily tended downwaird. expenses of delegrates to the General Conference have mn recent y-ear-s been levied thiroughi the Anrnual Con fer ens upon the memibership: and a host of agrents for' colleges and other enterprises hav-e been commissioned by Annual Conferences to go out over the country at large cost to the menm beship. Yet these gentlemen tell us that there is no need of lay represen tation in the Annual Confcrence. Does anyone sulppose that these addi tional burdens could have been laid upon an already over-burdened peo ple, if layman had been accorded rep) resentation in the councils of the church in proportion to number's and inluence ? So far from the General Conforence being the only law making body in our church, is it not perfectly plaim DR. STOKES GIVES HIS VIEWS ON THE SUBJECT. lie ThitIkA the Preachers Have too Much Power in the Mthodist Churci and the Lay nen too Little. ORAN:Etw;. S. C.. Nov. 9, '94. TO THE EDITOR: Kindly publish the inclosed article which was refused by the Editor of the Southern Chris tian Advocate, though it relates to matters involving the truth of history of the church, which matters he had presented in a misleading light. This adds another instance to the many where the organ of the church has de nied to the membership who support it the most ordinary fairness and jus tice. Very truly yours, J. W_%. STOKES. Here is the article to which refer ence is made and which explains itself. "PREACHERS AND LAYMEN. Under this caption the editor of The Southern Christian Advocate. in the issue of July 19.*attacks a statement ,u hich, he says, 'recently appeared in one of our county exchanges." As I am the author of the statement, and as the statement was made advisedly, I take it I will be permitted to give the reasons which justify the statemerit. Since accuracy of statement is the gage of discussion laid down by the editor. it may as well be recalled that the stateient wh h he says 'recently appeared." appeared in one of his county exchanges something like six iontis ago. Why the editor of the church organ, who is usually quick to resent any thing that can be construed into an attack oi the Church. should have allowed so gave a misstatement. as he evidently thinks this is. to go unchallenged so long: and why, hav ing taken up the cudgels so tardily. he shiould have wrested this one paragraph frLom its context in the body of a dis eassion which he-had arbitrarily shut out of the'Advocate, are questions that vill arise in every thoughtful mind. Here is the full paragraph which the editor garbled and then criticized: 'Finally. lie insinuates that I am ar raying the laymen against the clergy. On the contrary I am standing for truth ard the right of laymen in the church. Sixtv-nine thousand lay Meth odists in South Carolina paid $177, 9357. 5;) to the support of the ministry and the institutions of the church, and vet they are allowed only 40 lay dele gates on the floor of the annual Con ference which disburses this large sum: while 350 local and traveling preachers are represented by 200 dele !rates. Even this small representation kvas grudgingly granted only after a stubborn fight. As it is, such repre seniatioii as is given lay members is almost entirely under the control of the preaelers inl the last analysis. If there were no conflicts between preach eris and laynen until I came into this d iscussion. wly have the clergy fought ever.y effort to give lay members pro portional representation in the coun cils of the Church., Does any one suppose for a moment that the Advo cate could have been used to outrage and abuse laymen, and they denied the right to defend themselves, if the lay membership had had representation in Conference proportionate to their num bers and their donations?" The issues raised by the editor fall under two heads-first, the logical re lations of lay representation in our church polity ; second, the historical evolution of lay representation in our ecclesiastical system. These two top ics cover the whole ground of contro versy. In the first place. then, what is the logical relation of lay representation to the other features of our system? The specific point at issue, raised by the editor, is upon my satetement that "69,000 lay Methodists in South Caro lina paid $177,357.56 to the support of the ministry and the institutions of the church, and yet they allowed only 40 lay delegates upon the floor of the Annual Conference which disburses this large sum, while 350 local and traveling preachers ar e represented by 200 delegates." This proposition he disposes of thus: "Every Mlethodist in South Carolina with even ordinary in telligence knows that the amounts paid for the support of our preachers is estimated by laymen, collected by laymen, and disbursed by laymen, aid that the Annual Conference does not handle or disburse a single cent of it." In a rig'id, literal sense, possibly it would not be proper to say that the Annual Conference handles or dis burses any fund: but will the editor resort to such palpable sophistry, in face of the fact that it appoints its agents to attend to these matters of de tail: in face of the fact that the fund for superannuated preachers, bishops' fund. educational fund, And many oth ers, are unquestionably disbursed by the agents of the Conference either at Conference or dui'ing the year, and the i'esults passed in review at Conference? To hold that the Annual Conference does not handle or disbusr'e any funds, because. forsoothi. the funds are handled and cisbursed by its agents, would be puerile play'ing with words. And this is just as ti'ue of the funds collected and hpaidI out for traveling pireachers as it is in the' case of superannuated preachers or bishops or ~aiiy other und. While the "amounts p~aid for the s;uppor't of our preachers is estimiat ed by laymen." as the editor says, they are ti usually e st imated in the priesene o the preachler and under his urgent appeals. too ofteni regardless of hlood or dr-oughit or the poverty of the peple. While it is ''collected by lay men andl disbursed by' laymen." truly enough. itiis estimated, collected and disbused by laymen who are practi cly tie appointees of the prahr ihe agent of the Conference. True. they are electecd by the Quarterlyr Coin ferece: but they can be elected only uptflon noinationi by the preacher. by a body. the majority' of whom were elce'd upon01 the n'~minationm of the preaeer~ in'pevious years. What is to hinderi the pireacher' from nominat iig only those laymen who think to suit hiim: [s it not reasonably. sure that he wvill nominate such, If they can be had Take a conuc'rete case. The last qjuai' trIe C'onf terence for the year in a given c'harge is in session, a working majoity of whomu were elected uploni no1'Iniationt of t he preacher in past yeas. Salaries on thle char-ge have been1 steatdily pulshed upward, while the ability of the memibership has as steaiy' tended downward. Bro. A and Bro. B. sitting ste wards, resisted ai adv'ance ini assessmient last year be cause of special disaster from flood and drought and storm-and they are iiot noiuinated for' re-election, 'although they- are true and faithful, and repre sented the feeling of the membership. They ar'e not noina ~ted by the preach er-or that thecy fail to r'epresent tiruly their peo'ple. but because their views do not suit the pr'eaeher- and hence they cannot be r'e'elected. To this extent "such representation as is given lay members is almost entirely under control of the preachers in the last analvsis." This is the only natu i-al construction t~o be placed up'on my language. and hence the effort to pre judce lay representatives of past years against me by construing my state mient to mean an impeachment of their inte'rity, savors strongly of playing damental law-the iestrictive itules 'he-final decision is reached in the An nual Coi ferences, precisely where the undue clerical preponderance exists ? One canniot read a dozen pages in the Discipline without running against this fact. How then can any onie col tend that the General Con'ference is the only place where lay representa tion is necessary, if it be necessarv at all And if allowable at all. why should the clergy be allowed 350 times as much representation as laymen? AN INSURANCE:FIGHT. Whether the Lloyds Can Do Busines Without License in this State. CoLMBIA, S. C.. Jan. 2.-There promites to be a sharp fight in this tate over the question of whether the Lloyd insurance concerns must pay a lieense to do business. The conten tion of W. S. Monteith, the general manager for South Carolira of the Lloyd's, is that they do not have to pay license, as they are individuals. The following correspondence on the subject is self-explanatory: COLUMBIA, December 31, 1894. To the Honorable Comptroller Gen eral of the State of South Carolina. Sir: On the part of the underwriters of the South and North American Lloyds and the underwriters of the New York and Chicago Lloyds, Whip ple & Co., attorneys, doing husiness at 35 Liberty street. New York City, i write to inquire if there is any law that you know of that makes it neces sarv for said underwriters, wishing to do an insurance business in the State of South Carolina, to obtain a license from you foi such purpose, and. if so, pleaseinform me what are the essen tials. I am ready and willing to comply with any law that makes it binding upon individuals to obtain a license. and do not desire to evade any statute of the State of South Carolina: and will join with you in making it a test case as to whether the law as it now stands relative to insurance compa nies includes underwriters whom I represent. Respectfully, W S. IONTEITH. General 3anager Southeastern Divis ion. Mr. Norton sent the following reply to Mr. 'Monteith: "Replying to yours of the 31st ul timo I beg to say that being supplied with a copy of the laws of this State governing fire insurance, the require ments therein for companies. associa tions or associations of individuals wishing to enter South Carolina and do a lawful insurance business is be fore you and, I must assume. plain. It will be my pleasure to issue license to any company, association. organi zation or association of individuals wishing to enter the State, whenever such application is properly filed. ac compaied with the necessary prelim inary papers and fees as required by the faws of South of Carolina. None of the companies or associations re ferred to by you have made any form al application for license. therefore none have a license from this depart ment to do business in this State. "It is not the province or dutyFof this oflice to arrange test cases for the courts, but to enforce the laws as we find them under the advice and con struction placed upon such laws by the proper legal officers of the State. Whenever the proper papers in due form are presented they will receive prompt and careful attention and such action made known to the com pany or association filing them." Mr. Monteith has sent the following card to the Register regarding the ar ticle which appeared in yesterday's pager: C~OLDIBIA, S. C., Janurry 1. 1895. Please say to the fire insurance agents who it is said have written Comptroller-General Norton asking if the Lloyds, which hav'e recently entered this State, are doing. business under the laws of the State, ' that, as the representative of the Lloyds, I answer-We are doing a large business strictly in conformity with the laws of the State, and further, please say that I deny emphatically. and declare as untrue, the statement, by whomso ever made, "that the Lloyds have in no way complied with the laws of this State, and are doing an illegal business," and here assert that they have complied in every way with the laws of this State, and are doing a perfectly legitimate business, and when the Comptroller General sees proper to attack us, we will domon strate this.-Register. Georgia County- Elections. ATLANTA, Ga., Jan. 3.-The interest in the county elections throughout Georgia was slight and the returns are coming in slowly. The result in the State shows heavy Democratic gains in all counties. Mfany counties which were strongly Populistic in the last two elections returned to the Demo cticfld Gwynett, Bartow, Doug la.P lkerr-iwether, Campbell anid Gordon have all come back into the Democratic ranks. The following counties, as we expected, elected Popu listic oflicers: Cherokee, Chattahoo chee, Early. Taliaferro. Taylor and eDu tiie. Tom Watson's home. Some of the counties were so close that mix ed tickets were elected, among which were Harrison and Washington. Emanuel elected a Democratic ticket with the exception of sheriff. Elbert is so close that the official count w~ill have to decide the result, and then there is a probability of contest. The neroes in many of the counties voted solidfr with the Democrats. Out of 130 c'ounties in the State. the total number carried by Populists will probaly not exceedl fifteen, giving them th'e benefit of some of the d1oubt ful counties, remote fr-om telegraph stations, in which the result cannot be ascertained until the official count is made. G;old In a l'ine Stump. MItsKEnoN. 3Iieh.. -Jan. 2.-Willie Peterson and Weaks Carlson. aged 12 and 16 yiear-s. MIonday afternoon found &;omin gold under a pime stumip on the slope leading to Ryerson Creek. Some one had set the stump on fire and the boys were poking it with sticks when the money rolled out. The coin was in $20i pieces. The latest date on the coins 1801, and they are suppossed to have been secreted by Ted Boyce, a brother of 3Millionaire Jonathan Boyce of Grand Rapids, during the war. Ted died fonur years ago. ~Though he was not a miser-. he had a penchant for hiding mnoney and was sup)posed to have secreted largec sus. Thousands of dlollaris of hidden gold were recovered soon after the war by his father. A Narrow Escalw-. ENOMHNEE. M1ich. Jan. 2.-Martin. Frank and John Woesniak. the three tishermein who were carried out into the lake oni a ice fioe early vMonday moring. have i-cached laml. but in a badly frozen condition. Calls for help were herard by a fisherman who lives sixteen miles north of here after 10 o'clock MIonday night. Himself aid three others went out and fouud the men working their way to towards shore through the slush ice by means of oars and an old sail. They were takei-in tow and safely landed. All three were badly frozen and were nearly prostrated. MIartin, who is a cripple, was unable to move about as muh as his two brothers, and is in a very bad condition. He is so low from ex.sur tat he may die. THE COTTON QUESTION Soce Go(d Advice in 'egar. to Ret-e'ini the Aer'age. A correspondent of t he Southternt Cultivator and Dixie Farmerw forii Ponaria. S. C.. gives some exellent advice on the cotton q(estion. lie says: Without entering into a full discus sion of the subject, "Shall the South abandon the culture of cotton. or how can farming be made remunerative?" I reply by saving that the farmers of the cotton growig States were to di versify their crops. plant 20 per cent. less cotton, and that 25 per cent planted in provision crops. more money would be realized, and at much less cost than is now realized from the area planted in cotton. Besides this, the 25 per cent. additional to what is now plant ed in provision crops would make the country self sustaining. The depression among farmers ex tends over the whole country, but were they not in debt the grounds for complaint would be less real than otherwise. In my judgment. over production of crops of the civilized world, in the cereals, apparent from the prices of these products. It must be borne in mind that in 1S93 the sur plus production of wheat in the prin cipal wheat growing countries of the world reached 381,930.000 bushels' Russia, the United States and India alone, amongthe many wheat produc ino countries, show a' surplus of 79: 899.000. 69,518.000 and 42,562.000 bushels respectively. Such an excess of breadstuffs on the Eastern continent for several years past, where formerly there was a v*ry large demand from the United States at remunerative prices, is the cause of the depression in grain growing Sta-:es. A failure of provision crops in Europe would naturally force these countries to draw their supply from the United States, and at such prices as to make the growing of wheat remunerative to the wheat growing sections of this country. Flour is to day sold in the market at a price below the cost of production. The Southern farmers imagine that it is cheaper to buy their flour than to grow the wheat. Theo retically this may appear to be true, but practically it is a delusion. Every farm should be self sustaining. where it is possible to be so. It must be remembered that the pro duction of cotton is on the increase in countries where formerly very little was raised. Egypt. IndiaAsia. South Anerica and other countries are form idable competitors with the United States. the more forfnidable from the fact that laborers work for from 5 to 10 cents per day: The exports from the United States for the fiscal year ending June .30-h. 1693, and of cotton for the ten months ending June 30th. show an enormous decline as compared with the preced ing year. The total value of the lead ing articles for the time mentioned was as follows: 1892. 1893. Cotton......250,035,39S 180. 177.042 Breadstuffs.. 288,935,000 188.9S1,000 Mineral oil.. 44.191.001 41.550.000. A decrease in the exports of these articles of $173,000,000. The only solution that I see in the present embarrassment of the South is for the farmers to raise their own pro visions, to diversify, raising all the crops to suprly the wants of man and beast, and to reduce the area in cotton to the extent of at least 25 per cent. so that the production will not exceed 6,000,000 bales. Cotton can not be grown- at -5 cents per pound to buy provisions, and the sooner our farmers realize this fact, the better their con dition will be. If the South contin ues in the course now pursued bankruptcy will follow. Our land owners, to a large extent. will become tenants of capitalists, and thus destroy the manhood of our peo ple-a people chivalrous, hospitable. prosperous and contented. A TALEOF BLOOD AND CRIME. At toast 15,000 Persons Were Indiscrimi nately Butehered. BosToN, Mass.. Jan. 1.-Letters have been received by well known parties in this city from reliable sources in Turkey giving still further testimony regarding the outrages in Eastern Tur key. The following letters came from a city not a great distance from the scene of the outrages. The writer is a man in whom the hignest confidence may be placed, who has spent more than a third of a century in that re gion and knows the country and peo ple perfectly. This testimony is from a source which is independent from any which has been given before. La ter accounts increase, if possible. what has taken place. The letter just re ceived is as follows: The Armenians. oppressed b~y Kurds and Turks. said they could not pay taxes to both the Kurds and the gov ernment. Plundered and oppressed by the Kurds they resisted thenm and there were some killed. Then false reports were sent to Constantinople that the Armenians were in arms, in r'ebellion. and ordei's were sent to the 3Mushir at Erzeroum to exterminate them. root and branch. The order read before the army. called in haste for all the chief cities of eastern Turkey, was "Whoever spares man, woman or child is disloyal." The region~ was surirounded by sol diers of the ariay and 2.o00 Kurds also are said to have been massed there. Then they advanced upon the inhiabi tants, driving the people like flocks of sheep, and continued thus to advance for days. No quarter was given : no merc; shown. Mien. women and childen were shot down and hmech ered like sheep. Probably whzen :hey wreC set upon in this way sometrie to save their lives and resisted in self: defense. while those who could Ued in all directio)ns, but the majority were slain. The most prcbable estimate is 15,000 killed; thir-ty-five villages plun dered, razed and burned. Women were outraged and then butchered. A priest was taken to the r-oof of his church. hack-ed to pieces andl set oni fire. A large number of women and girls were collected ir a church, kept ~or days, violated by the bruatal sol diers, and then murdered. It is said that the number was so large that the blood flowed out of the church door. The soldiers contended ove a beau ti ful girl. They wanted to pr-eserve lhen but she too was killed. Everv ecl'ort is being miade andl will be made to fal sify facts and pull the wool over the eyes of the Europeon o'overnments. But the bloody tale will Yie known the most horrible, it seems to me, that the Nineteenth century has known. As a consummation of the report of the out rages, as several hundred soldiers were returning from the war, and in a vi! lage near us. one was heard to say that lie alone with his own hand, had kill ed thirty women. Some, who seem to have some shame for their atrocious deeds, say. "What could we do. we were under orders." A Vermont Judge has de~cided that when a gir-l who has taken an engage ment ring from a man, kicks him, she must r-etur-n the ringr or come to the scratch and marryv hin. He holds that no woman has a right to ring a confiding man in that way, give him Absolutely Pure. A creani or tartar aing powder. tii;.:hst of all in Ietavening strength.-LA est inited States Govern . meDt Food Re port Royal Baking Powder Company, 106i Wall -,t.. N. Y. MUST GO IT ALONE. The City Authorites Must Enforce the Dispensary Law. COLUMBIA, S. C.. Jan. 3.-The news hungrv reporters were glad to find Governor Evans in his office yester day because ther felt reasonably sure of 'retting at least one good ~item. They were not dis:Ippointed. Governor Evais was asked regard in- the Dispensary law and his pro jects for it., enforcenent. He said: -You c!'n stne tlhat 1o applications will here fter he received for positions on the conta1bijuiary foicc. instead of increasing the -foree we are going to cut down and give the cities and towns a chance to enforce the Dispen sarv law without the interference of State officers. They will be allowed to enforce it in their own way, and if they do it there will be no necessity for a return to the present plan or any other plan." "To 'ow many men are you going to cut the for "We expeet so cut it down to about thirty-five. "he answered, "about one fron each county. We have already cut four or five men off. We now have about eig.?ty men employed." Asked as to what disposition wil1 be made of the small foce to be employed, Governor Evans answered that they will be sent to the country and away from the cities and towns. A large number of them. he said, will Te placed on the border of this State and North~ Carolina.- It seems that just across the Soith Carolina line, in North Carolina. and bordering on this State. are four prohibition counties. A grelt deal of whiskey is made in these counties and is run across into this State and sold. The purpose of Governor Evans will be to have these - men watched and arrested. They will not be tried in -South Caroliria, 'ut will be sent back into their on n State for trial on the charge of making whiskey. The chance of conviction will be greater than in this State. Governior Evans was asked as to what th - cities and towns are doing about enforcing tLe law. He answer ed th 1, so far as he had heard they are doing what they can to carry it out to the letter. -The towns which have passed ordinance instructing and giv ing their officers the powerto enforce the law will, as I have stated," he con tinued."&be allowed to enforce the law in their own way. The towns which -do not pass ordinance to have the law enforced within the next thirty days will be aided and will have the laws passed for them."~ While the Gover nor did not say it in so many words he meant that the metropolitan police law would be put into operation in the -. refractory towns. Darlington is supposed to be one of these towns. That town passed an ordiinance instructing the police to en force the law before the Darlington riot. After the riot it is said that the town council repeale~d the ordinance. All the large cities of the State, Charleston. Columbia and Greenville, are enforcing the law. Greenville's mayor, James T. Williams, visited Governor Evans personally and prom ised that the law should be carried out. Sumter Aiken and Florende have passed ordinances giving their police power to enforce the law. Many of the smaller towns have done likewise. Governor Evans says that the rail roads have promised that they will hereafter aid in the enforcement of the law by refusing to haul contraband oods-thlat is, when they know that the goods are contraband. So the outlook is for a quiet enforcement of the famous la w by municipal authori ties. If Governor Evans finds that the municipalities are not earnestly trying to carry out the law lie will take a hand and metropoltan policemen will decot ate the streets of a number of places.~ An earniest, honest effort on the part of the municipal authorities everywhere is all that the Governor asks'or exp)ects. -Register. Ugly Talk from the Pulpit. PmN.. ills.. .Jan. 2.--Rev. Father Stolk. who last summer gained noto rietv by 1)ublielv asailingProtestants, said to'his parisiiioners yesterday: "'I have miembers who will not rent pews because thiey are too poor. yet they have money to get drunk twice a monthl. I ~wish they. would get drunk tonight and lay outdoors and freeze to death. There are members of my con gregation wsho allow their daughters to go to h 2Ih-toned balls and dance in full dress- no dress at all. Only inde cent Caitholies. Protestants and here tis go to such places." He said in olaineri words that lie wished from the I)0ttom of h is heart the girls who went o these dances woulId lI" ruined, and aded "I wi-sh every boy or young mant who attends these dances would hom disased andl rot and then the genration would sIoon he extermninat A hw~i; .eecnt. SI-AtRTANI~ln;. -JEtn. 1.-L. H. Thmnas. a nattive of Ohio. wvas killed vesterda a fternoon)l in a shocking inan-r.' ie was a blother-in-law o~f Auditor Epton and ha~d started to to towni from Cheroke-r to assist in as sessini roerity. His ho(rse became frihtened and thr'ew him from the -art. ')ne foot cauahIt between the spring and alex and he was unable to xtrcate it. lie was dlragged a half ile or further, his head and shoulders sriking the ground. Dr. George R. Dean wats sent for hatt the injuries Wre so g.reat that there was gjot the ihtest hop' for~ lhhn. Hfedied soon after' the accident. Three Kinled. Kanxn. N. H., Jan. 1.-As.a train m the Fitchburgr Railroad was comn ng ini toniight a sleighi containing (ha:s. Brooks. aged 1(t. andl his dauigh ter Ida. aged 25. and Tennis, a boy bout 15. attemrpted to cross the track t W\ater street crossing when the en gine struck the sleigh squarely throw ngi it and its occupants nearly 100 feet, killng all three instantly. The Old Story. Dora LAss. Ga.. .Jan. 2.-News has reached here that eight negroes were urned to death a day or two ago at Philips mill in the 'county. One of the niegroes was an adult and the oth ers children. They were all in a ouse which accidentally caught fire nd the inmates were constumed before