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of each article shall be so and so?
A. What is the intrinsic value?
The actual minimum intrinsic value
is what it says here (referring to the
firenlar he read.)
Q. The intrinsic value shall be
not less than $1.50 and he could sell
it for $1.40; isn't that what that
means?
A. It means this: that the board
instead of allowing competition to
work
Q. The committee will construe
this as the judges (the circular.)
A. Let me give a little word or two
-on intrinsic value.
Q. If the board desires to hear
from you, all right.
Senator Tillman, addressing the
chairman of the committee: May I'
have the permissiun to do so?
Chairman Hay-You can explain
your testimony, senator.
Senator Tillman-Some years ago'
we had a great discussion throughout
the United States as to the intrinsic
value of gold nd silver. The sena
tor then went into a discussion of the
issue in polities some years ago as to
the intrinsic value of gold -and silver).
Q. What does one X mean'
A. I have told you.
Q. That was of your creation?
A. Yes.
Q. One X as it means among the
whiskey dealers
A. It is a common kind of whis
key, of the cheapest sort.
Q. As compared with two X, three
X and four Xt
A. -Yes. that is it.
Q. That is your only objection to
this, that it does not require competi
tive bids?
A. That is a ,reason. and that
these men have broken their oaths in
office and have disobeyed the law and
have bought whiskey as I have -de
seribed. -
Q. Haven't you always contended
in liquor hwouses allowing on liquor
that the rebates belonged to the state?
A. No, I never said anything about
i* Ibnever said a word about rebates
on whiskey in my life.
Q. I understood you, with refer
ence to your arrangement between
Hubbell and yourself that there was
a reference to a rebate of 7 1-2 cents
n the price3
A. Seven and a half cents per gal
lon.
Q. And von told Hubbell he could
ave it?
A. I said you take it, because you
are crediting the state and I don't
want to bother with it.
Q. What would you say if these di
retors had done the same thing?
A. If they had given the people as
good whiskey as I did and bonght it
n credit, I would say nothing. I had
no law requiring me to have whiskey
bought by competitive bids.
Q. I am talking about rebates gir-:
en in consideration of purchases.;
Didn 't you admit that the rebates be
longed to the state and not vou?
A. It did not belong to me at all:
did not toneh it.
Q. Now. as I understand it. I tried
to follow you. you spoke of dishon-!
esty and mismanagement in the same
breath. Has this board violated the.
law in not enforcing the requirements
that no man could purchase liquor
without a written request ?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Don't you know that the state
board of-control has got no more to
lo with that than yon have as United:
States senator?
A. You have got the law, so don't
ask me. You are a lawyer and can
interpret it.
Q. You have stated that this is,
evidence of the mismanagement, if
ot of dishonesty
A. Not dishonesty, but. nisman
agement and neglect of duty.
Q. Have you read the dispensary C'
law within the last two years?
A. I think so, but not all of it,
because it has got so awfully long and
lots of it ought to be cut out.
Q. Do you not know that it is re
,.uired that the auditors shall be fur
nished with these request books and.
turned over to the dispenser, by
whom it is required to be signed and
f4terwards returned to the county au-'
-tor?
A. I think that is the law.
t . Pray tell me at what time the
te board otf contro! has ever had
onnection with these request blanks.
The state board of control has ab
solutely nothing to do with the ac
in of the county dispenser.
A. That is your aSSertioD.'
Q. That is my afsettioD).1
A. Who appoints them ? Who up
points the county board?
Q. I am not talking about the
county board but about the county
dispenser.
A. Who appoints the dispenser ?
Q. The county board.
A. Who appoints the county board?
Q. Wait a moment. give me time.
The county board is appointed by the
state board upon the recommendation
and by the consent of the members of
the legislature from the various coun
ties, that is so?
A. Yes.
Q. And the law expressly sayvs
that the county dispenser cannot be
discharged. appointed or suspended
except by the county board. Now
how in the world do you make out
that the state board should have en
forced that provision, that no man
should buy liquor except upon a writ
ten request?
A. My understanding of the law
is that the county board is appointed
by the state board. upon the recom
mendation of the delegation of the
legislature from that county' and I
would suppose it was removable by
the same instrumentality which ap
points them. And if a county board
disobeys the law is it not. the state
board's business to remove them?
Q. How would you suggest that
the state board should ascertain in
stances of the violation of law?
A. Has not the state board got in
spectors traveling from county to
county to make examinations and look
into the work of the dispensaries?
And of its system of bookkeeping and
the correctness of the bookkeeping
and don't they report to the state
commissioner?
Q. You have made no attack upon
the county boards as you have made
upon the state board?
A. I have not made any attack
upon the county board except in my
speeches I have called attention to
the disappearance of this requirement
of the law.
Q. Where .do you gather this in
tormation to which von have refer
red and upon which you have based
your conclusions? D)o you do SO ex
lusively upon this circular?
A. That advertisement has been
unning in the papers for I do not
now how long.
Q. You get your information chief
y out of the newspapers. do ,you not?i
A. I have gathered most of it
from the newspapers and a great deal
>f it by talking with men who travel
about the country, who say what is
~omn on...
Q. Don 't you know that not a sin-.
gle member heretofore of this board
as appeared before this committee
Beginning Frida)
est feast of valuE
Newberry. The
White Mercerized Waisting, worth
1.2 cents, our price 9 cents the yard.
White Mercerized Waisting, worth
5 cents, our price, 10 cents the yard.
White Mercerized Goods for Waist
md Shirt Waist Suits, worth 25 cents,
ur price, 19 cents the yard.
White and Colored Mercerized
loods, worth 35 and 40 cents, our
rice, 24 cents the yard.I
Silk Fafie for Shirt Waist Suits,
orth 50 cents, our price 34 cents.
White Mercerized French Waist
ng, worth 65 cents, our price 49 cents.
White Linen, every thread linen,
Forth 39 cents, our price 24 cents.
White Linen French Century Cloth,
orth 15 cents, our price, 10 cents.
White and Colored Lineene, worth
1.5 cents, our price 9 cents.
36 inch Linen, worth 50 cents, our!
rice. 39 cents.
Big lot of Brown and Colored Dress
inens at 19 cents the yard.
Plain English Nainsook Dress Linen
0 cents, 12 yard-pieces, $1.49.
Positively no goodg ch~
hA
i]in exoneration against himself?
A. I have never seen or under
stood why they don't appear before
the committee to be catechised and it
is a mystery to me why they don't. I
do not intend any discourtesy to the
committee but it appears to me won
derfullv strange that tis committee
should have skipped the head of the
machine to ao and look after the lit
tie fellows. I do not know why the
committee has not probed into the
Richland distillery, who are its mem
bers, who are the stotkholders and
what are the contracts. I presume you
gentlemen will get around there af
ter awhile. They have got nothing
but the glass works and they have
broken some of the bottles.
Q. Now, senator, you also make
the statement that the present board
has bought. glass bottles at a highcer
figure than they could have boughtI
elsewhere?
A. That is the evidence I have read.
Q. That this present. boarl has
Idone that?
A. That is what I understand.
Q. Suppose it will be shown t)
this committee by recoids in their
possession that ever since Mr. Towill
and Mr. Boykin have been on this
board there have been competitive
bids, and that the Carolina Glass
factory was the lowest bid. what
would you say then?
A. I would have to go and see
what was done before. If there has
been competitive bids and an honest
award of contracts and the law com
plied with, I would say that this
board is not responsible. As to the
glass bottles; I do not see how glass
is cheaper in North Carolina and Au
usta, Georgia, than in Columbia. I
would go to Augusta, Georgia, and
buy the bottles and slip them through
if necessary.
Q. As to the growth of the dispen
sary: It has exceeded your expecta
tions?
A. I have said that if the law
could be enforced and if the people
lend it their support, that the state
would make a million dollars profit
on the whiskey business and have
less drunkenness in the state than
they ever had before. I believe that
QOX. In reviewing~ the situation as
you have seen it today, do you think
it is fair now, not having seen the
full statement or testimony of any
one of them, to continue to charge
that the:e is dishonesty and mis
management. against these men when
they have never had their da.y in
court: do you think it is right?
A. 'lI do not see any impropriety
in my having an opinion. I base my
~Morning 9:30 o
a .In White Gooc
se prices for Thr
Check Nainsook, 'BIG VALUE, our
price, 4 1-2 cents the yard.
1 lot English Long Cloth, worth 15
cents, our price, 10 cents the yard.
Linen Finished Chambray, worth4
12 1-2 cents, our price 9 cents.
1 lot India i4noni, worth 12 1-2
ents, our price, 8 cents the yard.
1 lot India Linon, worth 15 c,ents,
our price, 10 cents the yard.
1 lot Check Nainsook, worth 10
cents, our price, 7 cents the yard..
40 inch India Linon, worth 15 cents,!
our price 10 cents the yard.
46 inch Persian Lawn, worth 39
ents, our price 24 cents the yard.
READY TO BE MADE SHIRT
WAIST THAT YOU CAN'T
AFFORD TO MISS
BUYING.
100 ready to be made Embroidery
Shirt Waists the 50 cents kind, for
29 cents each.
75 ready to be made Embroidery
Shirt Waists, worth 60 cents, 39 cents. j
rged, no goods on appr
THE RIGH
belief and my criticism upon the mis
management and corruption in the
state dispensary upon the failure to
have competitive bids.
Q. Going back to the hard stock
question. Suppose it is shown that
when these men took charge, this
present board. that the hard stock
amounted to $204,261.25 and that to
day that amount has been reduced to
$18,334.75 and all of which came to
them from previous boards, and they
have accumulated none, suppose that
should be shown by the records, what
would you say on that point, as to
their management and misconduct?
A. You will have to tell me how
they got rid of the hard stock.
Q. As to the Fant letter: You re
ceived that letter five years ago?
A. If I had not seen a copy of it
in a paper I could not have recollect
ed when. I believe it is dated the
29th of December, 1901, practically
the 1st. of January, 1902. that is four
years ago.
Q. Governor 1IsSweeney was gov
ernor
A. 1 think so.
Q. I was attorney general, Mr.
Gunter was assistant attorney gener
al, Mr. W. W. Harris held position
under the governor. Now the names
of Governor McSweeney and Mr.
Gunter are mentioned in there: that is
so?
A. I think so.
Q. Did you take any steps then,
senator, about these matters to look
into them!
A. I was in Washington at the
time upon senatorial duties. I might
have my secretary to look at his
stenographic notes and to look up a
copy of the letter I wrote. So far as
I- recall, I wrote this: "Dear Sir: I
am sorry that you find that you think
there is something wrong in the dis
pensary management alid corruption
in the appointment of constables. As
Governor McSweeney is responsible
for the constabulary. it is his busi
ness to look after you. and you as
his subordinate ought to report them
to him.' That is aboult all T recol
lect.
Q. What did vou do with that let
ter?
A. .1 have no more recollection of
what. I did with it than the man in
the moon. My son, who was my sec
retary, may have sent it to Col. Jas.
Tilman., but I have no recollection
and do not know. When I get back
to Washington I will make inquiry.
.By. Mr. Welch.
Q. You base your charge of fraud,
dishonesty and collusion upon your
construction of this circular that it
does not allow for. competitive bid
clock we will Op
s, Embroideries,
e Days: Friday,
50 ready to be made Embroidery
Shirt -Wait, worth $1, for 69 cents.
50 ready to be made Embroidery
b Val Lace Shirt Waists, worth $1.50
or 98 cents each.
For Three days we will Give each
Bady buying $5.00 cash, a Subscrip
bion to The Designer, for One Year.
Standard -Patterns for sale here. 10
md 15 cents None Higher.
rO MIDDLE MAN'S PROFIT HERE
Bought from the Importer, direct,
his big Lot Embroidery containing
L,200 yards. Everybody knows they
ave advanced 10 to 20 per cent, but
o give our trade larger value than
aver, we will give the profits away.
Lot No. 1.-Containing 3,000
ards of 4 and 5 yard pieces Lawn,
id Cambric edges, worth 5 and 7 1-2-1
ents, our price 4 1-2 cents a yard.
Lot No. 2.-Containing 2,000.
ards, worth 10 and 12 1-2 cents for
cents the yard.
oval. Please do not as
T PRICE S~
ding
A. That is one basis.
Q. Since that time you have read
as to the purchasing at higher prices
by the dispensary of liquor than could
be purehased elsewhere: that is an
additional reason?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. And on the ground of incom
petency, you base that on the failure
to,use request blanks?
A. And various other things.
Q. I want to be frank with you.
A. I want you to be. I am going
to be frank with vou.
Q. These gentlemen on the state
board, they want to clear themselves.
There has been no formal indictment
against them and the only way they
know of to prepare themselves to
meet the issue when it arises is pub
lie opinion. The committee charges
nothing against them. If you have
any other grounds upon which you
could base incompetency or fraud
we would like to know it; and for the
reason that we want to clear the repu
tation of these gentlemen. That is a
reasonable proposition and request.
A. That is a reasonable proposi
tion. As to the disobedience of the
law in regard to biis, in my opinion
is so clear and plain it. is not worth
while to consider that. The disobedi
ence of the law in regard to the re
quest blanks is so clear and plain,
but we are mixed a little on account
of having the legislative delegation
mixed in it.
Mr. Welch then carried Senator
Tillman through a very rigid exami
nation on the following points, sta
ting the figures and soliciting answers
to the following questions:
First, as to the amount of accumu
lated hard stock at cost price to the
state (inventory at state dispensary
1904), $102,261.25; second, the esti
mated amount of hard stock in local
dispensaries at the same time, $102,
000.00; total amount of hard stock
inherited from former boards, $204.
261.23: and claimed that the above
was reduced in price and sold at a
loss to the state, making a small
profit for~ towns and counties, showing
that the amount of lhardl stock still
on hand at the state dispensary was
$18,684.25, all of which was inheri
ted from former boards.
And lie carried Senator Tillman
through other figures showing esti
mates in favor of increase over for
mer administrations for the same
time of $29,180.66 and that the total
net earnings of state and county dis
pensaries for 1902 and 1903 were
$1,205,380.68 and that the total net
earnings of state and county dispen
saries for 1904 and. 1905 were $1,
in our doors for <
Laces and Ribbc
Saturday and Mc
Lot No. 3.-5,000 yards Swiss,
Lawn and Cambric Edges and Inser
tions, worth 15 to 25 cents a yard, for
10 cents, your choice.
TORCHON AND VALENCIENNES;
LACES PRICED RIGHT.
1 lot Linen Torchon Edges, worth
10 cents, our price 5 cents a yard.
1 Lot Wide Torchion Edges and
Bands, worth 10 cents, our price* 5
ents a yard.
1 Lot Wide Val Lace and Insertion,
worth 15 and 20 cents, our price 10
cents a yard.
A Pretty Lot All Over in Lace and:
Embroidery.
1 Lot Dainty Val Laces and Inser
tions, worth 10 cents, our price 5!
ents.
5,000 yards all Silk Ribbon, Nos.
0, 60 and 80, all colors, at 10 cents a
yard. Big Lot Persian Ombrea and
heck Ribbon, for all uses.
k for a memorandum to
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645,694.02, or a difference of $441.
000 in favor of the last administra
ton.
Senator Tillman warily replied that
the lawyers were trying to get him to
endorse the present administration
but lie wasn't going to do it.
The investigation TIhen c0nIluded
for the day and Senator Tillman re
turned to Washington.
NEW
SPRIN
GOODS
I desire to call your
attention to the New
Spring Goods we are
receiving. A beautiful
line The Regent Shirts
in all the new colors
and patterns at $1 .00
and $1.50. Anewsup
ply of Corless, Coon &
Co. Collars and Cuffs.
James A. Banister's
Fine Shoes, and Ral
ston Health Shoes for
Men, and the Excelsior
Shoe Co.'s line for Men
and Little Gents are
already here, and oth
ers are to follow.
New Clothing,
New Neckwear.
New Hats,
New Pants,
and other Men's Fur
nishing Goods expect
ed daily.
Come and see them.
Tell your friends about
my store.
A. C. JONES,
Newberry, S. C.
Feb. 14, 1906.
BON SALE
)nd.of the great
>nls ever given in
>nday.
Big Line Children's Underwaists
from 10 cents up.
A PBW TUG OF WAR PRICES.
50 Large Honey Comb Bedspreads,
worth $1.25, Price 89 cents.
50 Large Marseilles Design Bed
spreads, worth $2.00, Price $1.39.
A. C. A. Ticking for feathers,
worth 20 cents, Price 12 1-2 -cents.
2nd to None Bleaching, worth 7 1-2
Price 5' cents.
Lonsdale Cambric, worth 12 1-2
cents, Price 9 cents.
Shirting Prints, best, worth 6 cents,
Price 4 3-4 cents.
Good Check Ginghams, worth 6 1-2
cents, Price 5 cents.
10-4 Brown Sheeting, worth 25 cents,
Price 19 cents.
10-4 Bleached Sheeting, worth 35
cents, Price 29 cents.
Pride of Virginia Bleach, worth 10
cents, Price 8 1-3 cents.
be made,
RD,