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<&J?B mm&W BBmmwm??h T ; ~ .... cilhR lW.SOU fH.CAROM.VA, WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 83. 1813 NUMBER IS SB VOLUME VII Kjllu . ..... ' ' " - - ?v IT - -*.. 1 ' ' ?rr*t- -FT , y l.n I \ m i ft >11 ,rTl p? - By ZTf* MAC LiLlX. Tkbms:?Published weekly at three dollars a year; with an addition, when not paid within three months, of twenty per cent per annum. Two new subscribers may tako tlie JMpef at ^ fire dollars in advance; anu ten at twenty. Four subscribers, not receiving their papers in town, may pay a year's subscription with leu dollars, In advance. A year's subscription always due ir> advance, j Papers not discontinued tosoia'lt subscribers j in arrears. Advertisements not exceeding 1 lim'S inserted : r one dollar the first time, am! fifty cents CilUli nbsequont time. For insertions at intervals dl two weeks 75 cents after the first, and a dollar if the intorvds are longer. Payment due in advance for advertisements. When the nuiiiVr f insertions is not marked on the copy, tiie advertisement will be inserted, and charged til rdered out. 0"The postage must b; paid on letters to tlii editor on the business of the office. " 'a g1 w^u}s.j az,7~[ ARTIFICIAL GRASSK3. From the Temperance Advocate. PmHINO CSKKK AGRICULTURAL SOCIRTV. T1 i? Pnmmides aunoinled to nronnre * "" r i i i and present a dfmnoir or Essay, to be bv this Society forwarded to the State Agricultural 3->ciety, be? leave to report: That in the discharge of this duty, they % have been influenced by the hope that a tew facts, the result of experience, will be j fnore and better calculated to promote the subject, which the State Society had in view, when thev parsed the Resolutions, which have called forth this It -port, than any theoretical essay, however well written or plausible it might be. There is no pursuit of man, which depends so j much upon circumstances, as that of Agriculture. There is, therefore, no purnutt in which general principles are so often misapn'ied. Consequently, finespun theories are not weil calculated to promote the general intercut. In selecting, the cultivation of the or. tifiria! grasses, as the subject of a m". inoir, to be submitted to the^State Society, the improvement of the-soil, is (be ullcrior object to be kept in view. To accomplish this* the ground must be stocked ' with the grass seed every time it is sown in either wheat, rye or oats. Tile grass j iwiei generally are red clover, red top or ! Herds grass, Orchard gras; and Tim dhy. To adopt this course, the farmer must be ' p??parcd to let his land lie to grass r.t least , - ' . I I * A .! 11 i ' Itirae years, otherwise me owject wm not be accomplished. The advantage* to be derived, are first the pes*arc tor uis stock, second, preventing the land from washing, third, the vegetable matter which is left upon the soil to turn under when ploughed down. To improve ic soil, you must have manure, to make manure you must have stock; to keep stock, you must have grpaw. 'Therefore, it is considered that' i the cultivation of grass is of as much, if 1 pot moro imj>orta?ice, than moat ot the , crop* we do cultivate. It is said hy some, who laugh at the idea of sowing grass eed, that we have a plenty of grans with out sowing. The grasses, however, ^ which we want, are those which come culv and continue late. Such is the ted clover, red top and orchard grass; of the timothy, we cannot speak from experience Having said this much, l?v way of introduction. wc will now speak of facts. J The facts reported, have been the cx- 1 perience of one of your Committee.. i fn the month of February, about | thirty acres of ground, then growing , Wheat and rye upon it, was sowed with 1 ( red clover seed. The seed was sowed ( Upon the ground, and permitted to go down with the ?now and rains. The method adopted in sowing was, to mix u?..rl Miilh u.hcc m.-tilf: mnwt na inii.th ?*sed to the bushel of a*hc> a? wa.i intend- '' etl for one acre, which was about eight pounds of seed. The clover grew up m j the spring, and at (he tine of cutting the ! grain, was generally about six inches. \ l The sun)m r of 1^37, it was pastured, after the crop of grain was taken off, with j hogs and small cattle, and soine times ,, horses and milk cows. The summer of I 1838, no stock was permitted iogo upon if, until it was in bloom, about the middle of June, to first of July, when about fifty 1 ?? C Mn/lt fi ft If /?AIA*U ? n<l I IIO^.I, KflWUtll I (;i l y nuu ill i r vwu J| Iinv some horses, were permitted to pasture 1 upon it, until the crop was eaten off*. The Stock were then taken off* and the clover hen grew up again, and made very good ' fall pasture, though not so good as the first. The spring of 1639, about fifteen bdshels of plaster of paris was put upon part of the field, about one bushel to the icre. The crop of clover was not so good < this year as the crop of 1836. but made very good pasture, and was treated much fts it was in 1838. This year satisfi'ed the^proorictor of one fact, of which before [ he had doubt, vi7j that red clover will I stand our summer heat and dry seasons. If it withstood the dry seasons of 1838 | and 1839, we may expect it to withstand j our ordinary dry sca-o is. The fall crop j of 1839, was perm tted to go to seed and j - -1? i ? t 1 ! ripen, when me wnoie w;i*? tumcu ui.mvi, with a large two horse plough, brought from New York for that express purpose. In the last of November and month of December, as the season would permit, the ground was agimi sowed with w beat nod rye, and a better crop was taken off it, at the harvest of 18 10, than eve. was on it since it became what is termed old land. The clover at the time of liar vest was generally from eight to twelve inches high. No stock was permitted to go upon it until the clover wets blooming: k. - ! rit this time it \Va>? generally eighteen inches high, and some stalks measured two feet. It was then a sight well calculated to satisfy any one, that it requires hut to try and we can grow clover. The spring of 1841, the clover came on as usual, hut the weeds Sprang up and smothered it so that the crop was not so good as either crops. It is intended to fall on the ground this winter, and plant corn in it tiie next year, then sow again in wheat and rye. with a view to see whether a sufficiency of seed is in the ground to stock it again with clover, of which a doubt is entertained. The land upon w hifiii.this clover grew, is a stiff soil, ori<Mual growth of timber, hickory, post.oak, r* c? # - . black-oak, black-jack, and some few pine. The location is upon the south fork of Fishing Creek in Chester District, about fifteen acres of the laud his been cleared upwards of forty years, the remainder about twenty-five years. There has been no manure put upon it at any time, except about one aero, an I thaUbut very trifling. The cost of the clover seed was a few cents under oight dollars por bushel, delivered on the farm, so that each acre had about one dollar's worth of seed Upon it. That seed stocked the yrotlnd for five years and two heavy crop* of wheat and rye taken olFit in the time and after the first year, the pasturage is considered, worth morth more than a!l the expense would be, if it bad to be stocked every year with seed, and ten per cent, upon the val.je of the land. Hogs will fatten to make good pork, without any other feed, hv giving thern a little salt occasionally. The richness of the hotter and milk is known oniv to thoss who have seen such. Care is to be taken when cows arc first put upon the clover, not to put them on until (bedew isoflT the clov. er in the morning, and not Jet them stay ou long at onetime, for a few days ; afterwards by keeping them otf until the dew is dried up, no injury is to be apprehended. There is no injury to be apprehended to hogs at all. No serious inIi. j avar r. ft, n#p!(inr<>(! it-111) horses 1 ,i.i; .,.JV?v. - it will salivate a little the second crop, but hy giving dry food, the salivation nil! sown stop. No part of this clover was c.it for hay. but in another experiment it has been mowed success full v. In the spring of 1*37, about one and a half acres of ground vhich had been previously well manured by cowpenning, and i crop of turnips taken off it the winter >f lSd-j, was sowed in clover and orchard jr.ass together. The grass seeds were own witli oats. The orchard grass, it was ascertained afterward*, was not sow. ui sutficiently thick, as it came in hunch, a. A heavy crop of oats was taken otF the ground, and the clover was cut that lutumn, w very good crop, though not well cut on account of the out stubble.? in the year ofH3i, the clover was twice wt each cutting, about eighteen inches n * ~ and two feet hi gh. The orchard grass began to spread upon the ground this vear, and hy the next spring, Hot), took the ground from the clover generally, where it happened to I* thick. The years I84U, and 1844, me grass na? i>een permitted tori|>en its seed, and then cut. It is a hard grass for hay. when p?riuittcd tostaun until the blown come* upon it, [>ut when it i* young it is tender, and stock is very fond of it. The advantage sf this grass, as a pas.lire grass, is that it comes early in the spring. On the first of April, 1841, it was sixteen incite* long in tlse hhuie, and afforded a go d hit for cattle. Another advantage, it continues green .and is good pasturage late in the fall. After til the natural grasses in our fields are dead and of no service, this grass is green and good paslurag'. On the tenth of November, 1841 stock were tnrr.ed upon it, and had green grass of from eight to twelve inch, nss i* the.hladc. Whether if the grass had Seen thick upon the ground, the sods tun it.I hnvA r.ikfn the same hold, is not known, but as it is, the sods appear to We as firmlv fixed in the ground as broom grass. This grns* is of very rapid growth and in a fow days after being cut, shows itself springing up nunin. The result of experience is, that it is a fine grass for pasture; hut not so-good for hay. No manure was put upon this ground from the time the grass seedsWere sown. The . I soil is a yellow sandy, with a yellowish j clay subsoil, lias been cleared upwards thirty years. ' In the spring of 1837, about one ncre, and in the'spring of 1830, about three acres were sown in red top grass seed.? In each case, thfc grass seeds were sown * ? --.. ? l. * I rt/i/* /if nri*/iiirwl Willi OIIIN. t inn JMV-V*; m a small branch nr s. The one acre was originally wet and boggy, lint lying at the font of a long cleared land* (he wash upon it* has covered it from six (rt ten inches deep and it is no'tV perfectly dry. The year before the grass seeds Were sown, it was well manured and planted in corn, and produced a very good rrop.? The crop of oats Was good. The first year could hardly lie seen, The next not a good crop. Each year since that, a very good crop of hay, hut amount hv weight not known. The crop ?{ 1941, was generally from two to three feet high when cut: and as thick upon the r,.... . ^ i ground as it could stand. This makes! | an excellent hr.y, and upon a soil weli J | pfdpnreo, yields a bountiful return. The . I three acft!s Was before the west side of i the branch, and was old meadow land, which had been used as a natural mead- i ow for a great many years. The natural I grass had boen entirely subdued by weeds of different kinds, and the ground abondoned as a meadow, add turned Utit, as it is usually termed, about five or six years before being ploughed up, it was again put under fence, but the natural grasses done no good. The winter of 1837 and 18^8, a heavy doat of long *ta. ble manure was put upon it. Then fal- | lowed, as well as the nature of the ground j I would permit, and planted in corn. There was a bad stand of corn, in consequence of cut worm destroying it. In the spring of 1839, it was sowed with oats and fed ' top grass seed. There was but an ordi-! nary crop of eats. The grass has been standing lor hay ever iince, and the crop j of 1841, was a very good crop, though j not so good generally, as the one acre, hut it was owing to the fact that it was j j not so thick upou the ground. It is he- ! leived that the next crop will be bolter, as it appears to be spreading over th? j ground. A part of this, however, was ; j three feet high by measurement. The ! I I.n.l mlimli tlua nPAUT.' IU ivlm t lUfnl. V JI i II |;vn WIIIVIS ill(<9 011/rr.ij !? ?*? ? ?W V??. , led culil black-jack land* some places wa- i ter rises in it, which ha?* beea attempted i to be remedied by cutting a'ditch a long its margin, but has hcert so far unsucceas- j ful. Whether this grass wiii grow well j upon high dry soil, cannot b? stated from ' any experience, hut no doubt is enter-I taincd that it will. This grass makes an i excellent pasture, both early and late, j and at this time, the 10th of Movcmlier, j i the small cattle and horses are grazing j j upon the meadow, with apparent delight, J that they have treated with the luxury of j green grass. Nothing can he said ahout Timothy grass, from experience, more than that it is helcived it will grow, because, if ten or fifteen stalks will grow luxuriantly, there is no reason why acres should not. An attempt was made with tho timothy, but from defective seed (it is supposed) ' but a few stalks of it grew. They were j about three to feet high to the top of the j seed stalk. Your Committee have thus presented i the result of the experience of one of its j members, upow the growth of what is cal- I led the artificial grasses, in contradiction j to the natural grasaes of the country.? i The fact is to be ascertained, whether we . have not grasses growing in our fields, i which if cultivated, might not he equai to any which is brought from abroad. It is found that the rye graas grows spontaneous in our fields, and if cultivated, ; might prove of great value to us. In i looking out for grasses, however, we ought to look for those which grow from the old root, arid not from the seed, be-; - ? . i ' cause thoee which come Iroin the seed,; never come to maturity early io the year and are, therefore, not so beneficial as a pasture grass. So much has been written on the atib- j jeet of grasses their values compared with each other, the lime of cutting them ; the manner of curing hay, Ate# that it is : thought unnecessary to say anV thing, hut what hay been the rssult of our expe- , l rienec. So well satisfied have # been ; with the result of our experience, that we ! have determined to go into business upon j a larger scale, with a view to the improvement of the soil directly, by turning 1 under the clover j indirectly by procu- , ring .an abundance of food fur stock of alt i kinds, without which manure cannot be , made. This we cipect to do by making hav of herds graas and timothy. One of; your committee has now on hand, rsady ' to Imj committed to the earth, thirty j bushels of red top seed, cost in Philadel- , piiia sixty-two and a half cents per hush- | el. Three bushels of tunolhy, cost in Philadelphia four dollars twelve and a half j cents per bushel. Nine bushels of clover t, seed, cost in Philadelphia six dollars and j fifty cents per bushel for part in New j York. We have been thus particular in j giving prices, because we known some of j our citizens imposed upon in the purchase j of grass seeds, f?>r want of a knowledge of their current prices. Clover seed i? gen- j crallysoldhv the pound, and a bushel j weighs from sixty two to sixty-five pounds. We have thus, Mr. President, given j our mite to aid a cause, which has been i so long neglected in our state, but which , is now, we hope, nboi/t to rise to a high j rank in the estimation of society. That I the farmers will no longer suffer them- j selves to be looked upon as beings of an j inferior order, hut stand forth as they are j the lords of the soil, the sovereigns of the I country. R. G. MILLS, Chairman. Fishing Creek, Nov. 10, 1841. ])r. Granville Sharpe PalMson formerly Professor of Anatomy in the Jefferson Medical College is among the applicants for the benefit of the General Bankrupt Law, in New York city. > v5 . r 0 CONGRESS. | fi KNATK, I The following r port of Ihe rerfta'ks bf Mr: | Calhoun, when presenting the prMcoe<iln|fs of' the Legi.?!a'ure of South Carolina; tfri^|ic fth ; inst., ii by the odrrespoiiilcnt of the Charleston ' Mercury. Mr. Calhoun said, he had received frovn J the same source, the proceedings of his [ Legislature on the subject of the contro- j versy between the States of Virginia and New York, which he asked might he read, j The report having been read, Mr. C. said ; it would be seen that these proceedings j grew out of a law passed by the State of Virgirffans a rflcttsure of necessity to pro. i ^ I k n?L>/ll r fn I .1^4 t U 4 IrsJtt jl ICl/l IIVIKCH ao'" 1,1 l,,v; |>UMIITJII ,I.VIUI[|. u by the State of New York, and that South Carolina had backed Virginia in 'he position she assumed, and had passed a similar law. It was not his purpose to say a } woid in vindication of the course pursued by these two statah If any vindication were necessary, it Was amply made by the very able Report of the Legislature [ just read ; but he rote to ask i'ne earnest and solemn attention of the Senate, and especially Senators from the non-slaveholding Stares, to the result of (he course pursued by the Abolitionists. The present J was a suitable occasion to do so, as it was ( one of the stages of its progress*. Whatever doubt might have existed of the tendency of the Abolition movement at its J origin, there could he none now, that it , would end in the dissolution aud over.1 throw of the Government, if it was not arrested, and speedily arrested. He would pass over the result which had already to a considerable extent been produced? the estrangement of those who should he the best of friends, and repeat lite profound conviction, that the inevitable tendfcncy of the abolition movement was to j destroy the union of these States. Sla- I very in the South, was not simple slavery, but a political institution, and to her tho most important and essential of all others. What was the object of Divine Providence in commingling the two race* together in such large and nearly equal j numbers, it was not for thena to inquire, j They were, and it was only under the j present relation of master and slave that } they could exist. Break that relation,; and the inevitable result must be, the expulsion of, or destruction of one or the other by forco. In this posture of affairs, what was the course to be pursued by the South? She must piotect and defend herself by all the means placed | within her power by the Constitution.? I The communication betweeu the North ( and tho South has become daugerous to j the latter, not because there was a body { of fanatics in the North, but because they wiclJ a power sufficient to gotern the legislation of some of the States in passing laws which a (feet the property and endanger the institutions of the South, and to counteract the mischevious tendency of such laws, the Legislature of; "" j' # %" 0 I Virginia has, with consummate judgment, i moderation and patriotism, made such j amendments to her police laws as were | rendered necessary, and South Carolina has assumed a position by her side. What j would he the result if the course now pur-1 sued by certain portions of the North 1 should be persisted in ? Why just in pro. portion as the communication between the two sections should become dan. gofous, the' Southern Slates would move in a body f they would he compelled to move in a body, and pass laws restricting the intercourse with the North, until the ; communication would he slapped alto* gethcr?by mail, as well as commercial, for the nam*regulations will he applied to stages, steamboats and railroad cars, as to vessels navigating the ocean. This do they would, and do they must. He called upon gentlemen of the North, ho appealed to them in the name of our corn "'in munirv and nf naf riot ism. whether ...v.. -- r I such a stale of things between the two portions of this Union was desirable. He referred to the proceedings in the other wing of the capitol; he referred to the proceedings of a Convention of four hundred delegates recently held in New York, in which the slaves of the Southern States were invited ty leave their masters, and the mode of doing it successfully, pointed out to them, and they were promised protection and nssistance when they reached the North. He would not coin, mr.-nt on the mistaken views relative to the position of the Southern slaves, which were entertained at the North, but would assert, without the fear of contradiction, that there was no body of laborers in any portion of the world without the limits of the United States, who were so comforta blein their physical condition, or had so great a proportion of the avails of their labor applied to their benefit. He would not contrast their condition with tint of the white laborer in our own country. He appealed to gentlemen from the North, for the sake of our common country, to exert their influence to put a stop to me*, sures which, if persisted in, will destroy one.third of the Union, and extirpate one if not both the races that now inhabit itThe remarks of i\fr. Calhoun were lis. tened to with the most profound attention, and ! cannot but hope fhat his earnest apd solemn appeal will have a mast snlu. tary effect. ' The document was then ordered to be printed. S!i.*v ?xvv_Vfh 7th. States refusing (lie Ijand Distribution. The following involution, submitted j some ddjrs since by Mr. G'lAHV was then i taken u(*f ! Rctblved, 'ifhiit the Committed on the Pubiit: Lands be instructed to inquire into the expediency of jtfovidfrfg by law that, whenever any State or sUtes shall refuse their proj)#rtion bf* the proceeds of the puhlfc' land?, such proportion shall be dis tributed among the residue of the assenting States,' Mr. King said he presumed the Senator was not serious in presenting fhe resolution ; and, if he was not disprtfed to ask action upon it, he would movt to lay the subject on the table. Mr. Clay said he had much niitfre rea- j son to srtpposo the Senator waSfrotScrimrs i in what he had said, than the Senator to suppose he was not serious in offering his resolution. He would toll the Senator from Alabama what were his vie^s.upon this subject. His resolution was' to hi- i quire what should be done with the land 1 revenue appropriated to a State, when ' that state refused to receive the portion thus appropriated* He would not make I a hasty disposition of the land whrch any Legislature, under the influence of party feeling, miyht refuse to receive. Thaf, he conc< ivi d< would be unj i$'t to (be pen- | pie themselves, who, he thought, held different opinions from their Lcgrsfrt(d(es i upon this subject. He believed, how. ever, that if the People continued to oh ini'f ii E-f rl twn r>r 11 > r/in f .anials I itrftj uhrmlri r; ",,vv ?? state thoir objections, that something should be done with the lands thus refused. He would rtsfc, what was to he done? His opinion was, that aft* &ny State perseveringly refused to redeivc this land, it would he proper for Congress to make some other disposition of the proportion belonging to such State. Mr. King said he did not think the Senator was serious* He had tofrt us over and over nga.n that the land belongkd to tho states; and would he, because a State regarded the land sales as a comO g mon fund, and declined to receive if, np. propriate it to otiier Stafes? Did it belong to tho State so refusfrtg, or to the other States ? If it belonged to a dissenting State, would they appropriate it 10 others because that state refiWtrd to receive it ? Mr. K closed with a call for the y?ris and nays; which were ordered by tire Senate* Mr. Clay hoped ?jbartrld know how many Would vote for andf how many against this resolution. lie had said that the land belonged to Alabama : and, if they refused to receive it, what (ben ? The case was like that of a father dispensing his property to his children. If one child refused to receivo his jrortion, could not the father appropriate that child's portton to the rest of the family? The General Government, as the parent of the States, had given the land to (he states, and one of the family of States had refused to receive her portion. Now, if Alabama or South Carolina refiwed to receive her portion, let it bcr given to others. lie was ready to vote for (h'? proposition at any moment. Gentlemen had called the distribution policy one of robbery and plunder. How robbery? H<?w plunder? If ho was disposed ]to retort, he might show thot the robbery rested net with the receiving states. Nothing was to he gained by this language. Who wcro the robbers ? Congress was the agent of this robbery, and the states the receivers of the stolen goods. Congress, aft* f ten years labor, ing to effect the object, had paasod ttvfe bill, and the people of the states receiving '.heir proportions would have had the ben. crfits of it. And this was called robbery. What was to be gained by sueb cfimirM* tion ? What was the question submitted 7 It was one of distribution, involving iiidi. rect taxation to the extent of supplying the means in the Treastrfv withdrawn from it by the bill. It proposed that the Government should be hereafter carried on without relying upon tho land fund which belonged to the states. Mr. Calhoun said that the Senator from Kentucky showed profound iguor. ance if he expected that South Carolina could be bribed try this fiiftd. Nineteen twentieths of the people of his state were opposed to this hill. It was a great question, and he held it as far more important than gentlemen upon either Hide ot the Chamber. It was n question of revenuo ?of union ; and, if a hold man were to desire the dissolution of the Union, he con!J not wish a stronger means to accomplish it. He knew that (he Senator from Kentucky was ardently attached to this Union, and therefore cheerfully acquitted him of any such object in his defence of this measure; but any man wishing to accomplish this could not have the way more clearly pointed out than by the operations of this measure. Mr. C. proceeded to comment upon this measure as one of revenue. The effect, lie said, was to make orte-third of the Union fiat the to* w"hich wruld be created by the withdrawal of this fund. The tax-paying portions of the country had to pay the tax created by withdrawing the money from the National Treasury through the operation* of the distribution bill. In regard to the land, theques! tion was, whether the (and belonged to the States or the Union. If it belonged to the Union, you had no right to touch a dollar of it. South Carolina nnd Alabama regarded it as belonging to tho Union ; and,* so regarding it, they hid5 <J%j3 thought it improper to npprbpridte thr money to Slate purposes . In regard to . the immediate question before the Senate, .- --SEflj a htf hoped the Senator would go to - aH lengths, and carry out his objects. He. saw light ahead, and in two years alt of the measures of the party who had made this tfifddf tWeff measures', would bo swept V* ^ Mr. stalth, of Indian#, stated this fei^ i sons why he should rtrffi fn fai ?r of the j. resolution} though he would .not hav<*: v' 1 isetf, ft# Said, had not the yeas and nayr heen called. As a matter of courtesy,-' he should vote for the proposed inquiry.' It had not been usual to refuse to authorise suc'n inquiries, when asked for. * In \oting for the inquiry, in no way did lie' * ommit himself upon the matter involved \ >n the inquiry. His impressions wore, however, in opposithm to that disposition 'of the refused d/sfrikufion which might* he inferred front rhe resolution submitted. Mr. S. complained also tff the dH?" . oj cussion which* ?md arisen on thiif-hfejdet "1 (nsoiH (ft' place', hnd.gtfy# fWlltftf that utkun I I % a 11 Ir\ Vor\ua I tkw l<frwl' wilt; II Uiv; ifiu iv i |||? IflllU uvoiuvw tion act came up- for consideration/ hcf | should go fully into the subject/ : Mr. Allen continued, the debate. | rose not to discuss th'e immediate questtoif i raised by the Senators from South Urfro*' ; iina and Alabama, lie wished to say that he concurred in the remark, that the question was whether we should leafre if to the states to lay taxes for Sittc p irposes, or an indirect tax by the" General Government for State purposes. Sbalfthe State lax itself for its own purposes," or should the taxing power of this Gov : rftrment be exerted to,support the States? lie rose to say that this was tho question' ^ I at issue, and no othef. He tone to Ex., ! this admissirm, made by the friends of . the bill. Shall, then, the Stale Governments tax themselves for-their own oh*' jects, or shall the General Government" be taxed for these objects? Mr. (/lay said be hoped itlfii IfWF <fcrlflro., j ?ty of eitil war which/ tWtf tfMffie of his remarks', the SehfttOf from Ohio pre.' ; dieted asriconsequence of this.alt of tho last session' would he averted. Thflrt an argument to frighten old wtftflenwifh. Oml war! for what 7 Fof passing a di?-'^ tribution bill. In regard to the question' argued by the Senator from Ohio, if if1 wa* properly stated, Mr, C. hoped ho* ' \ ! would reiterate it until it was beard hy'"M* { every man. and women, nnd ohiki in thef*" wH country. He had him.olf over and over" ! agairt declarer! that there was n? p<Jwht' y I in the Constitution to levy taxes for tho! purposes of di-tribution. No o/w on InV ... > side of the question had ever contend-d - J j for such a power. The nearest appro*** .'*? matron to it was the recornmetidntfoirf of i thtf ?fenatOf'? friend ni the Hermitage** Gcffitfral J,tcfcso?r, who proposed tt distri-' ^ bution after taxes had beep levied. Now,* S what did the friends of the distribution | policy propose ? Nothing more than this* j The public land was the common proper/ tv of the Slates, and the Whigs proposed ~ : to give to the states what was their owuv Was this robbery? Was it pluidee't i Now, said Mr. Clay, will'the SvnatW | from Ohio stato me fairly ? If he will*- . Ire will but repeat what the Whig* have | consfrtMly proclaimed upon this floor for ten long years: that the land belongatf ! to lire stales, and tfie Whigs proposed tOf ' . ' , : give them what was already' their Ok**. > ^ ^ ! Mr. Clay then replied very briefly (n - v- - * ..ft. a * I < .t... J ! . /. * ' '{#> r'<jS& 1 tr*> last remarK* or ine rrenaior from* ->?/- m I South Carolina. He j?hM he did not profess to kn<nv much of the pwple of South' , J i Carolina* JAe had never been in th?r ; ; ^ state, and had only had the pleasure otf ^ . * communicating with gentlemen of that >. . - t r ?5* he had met them in one or other of the branches of Congress. In regard . to the question under consideration^ ho i neither knew, nor?with respect he said | It-?cared whether the state vrouid receive the money or not. But (continued Mr. C ) the Senator front. I South Ciroliua thinks the1 (treasure will lead j to disunion. . , Mr. (jafioun slid, by way of expfanatiuty * thrft the tendency of the measure would to lead to (I'sunion. [ Mr. Clay said he thought differeW^ sod i that the effect of th'?f tfistrrbuiitnr would, <ui the contrary, be one ot thp strongest bonds of I I lf>> I 7(11(1(1 Mr. VYoodhury tboti^bt tlW Steoaetor front [Kentucky must be tinder name mistake as to the receipts from lands under the distribution . * bill. The title to the land was with the gene, j ral government. It.was a truat fund. Tim i money deceived from the sales of land would go into'the Treasury. It one 6f tho Stated j refused to receive its proportion of the mocrny j from the sale of land, it would go iuto> thw i Treasury, and would be confiscated and ap*. i preprinted to (he euuwnou pu'posej of tb? ' Union. In regard to the effect rtpos the faees of the Union* it was obvious that the State# would be taxed f?>r their fulf proportion re- ..T ceived under the distribution bdl. m>p? fttdehfed States would have to submit to an indirect taxation lor the support of lbs G'or1 crnment. The operation 6f the' scheme was s } tct compel indirect taxation for the purposes of . | distribution. ! Mr. Allen thought he tad not' misrepresent, j ed the Senator from Kentucky, for. the reason I that the effect of his proposition would lead to the results lie had named. The' system* "war a stre^b of the taxhg power, afl'-icting the : peope, and two millions and a h*J had l)U ready oeen lost to :he Peopte by it 1 Mr. Mangum moved to amend the retold* ' lion by add ug thereto the words 44 or in whnt manner thi*e proportions ought to be disposed of, or .whether any <j'S|>oaiuoa ought to b# made of them.'' f v !"* ;.r' . * % JV *-Jt ' ,# *.. a - ... ""-dfci yi/*-. \ A, * v W<*- Jrft '*A * ' ' Jl** * - ?