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vises lioo.kecprs to carry their hives to
fields of this crop in autumn, as well as to
heath ialids.
4'Tfce Farmer's Assistant," says, ''We
^ cannot recommend the cuituro of buckwheat
on lands which are suitable for more
valuable crops ; ^Jt on light, srnoo'h lands,
particularly, the farmer may find his account
in keeping a fielJ of a few acres for a yearly
crop of buckwheat, as well for family use
its for *;s:s'i;ig in fattening his swine, &<"
A bu^l of gypsum to the acre, or perhaps
less, applied yearly to the ground, wou1^ be
fiiutrl to keep it rich enough for good
I crops," (Complete Farmer.
Sim ClXXl'aE. I
Friii the Joarml of tjje American Silk Society. J
theJPlhbug.
Strange us the word at the head of this
' nriiclo may appear in such a pla ? as this,
it :s the only one that will serve as an index
to the subject o our present remarks. Tiie
siik Mis mess is cali< d a humbug by many of
the newspapers of the day ; and the mulberry
business is considered or asserted to
be tie, very prince of humbugs, by m my
people, as well as by large portion of the
press.* ?Ve do not pretend to be more wise
than our neighbors in the ordinary business
of life ; but on this single subject we do profess
to have bestowed more attention than
can pocsibly hive been detfoted to it by men
engaged in other pursu ts.^md whose attention
to it can only have b*en casual, and
even then very brief und stloerficial. We
therefore assert, that the silk business is no
humbug ; thot the sjieculu'ioii, as it is called,
: in muiticaulis trees, even in its wildes* aspect
is no humbug ; that the first will be
the greatest among the many great blessings
yet conferred upon our happy country, and
that the second, *'the speculation in inultiJ
ca;dis," is. the very means by which the
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curtain and speedy trurion oi .n;# gr ai nit:*,
sing is la obtained, We know wc;l thit
we shall bo called an w en busi isf," a- wo
have often licretofore been ; but *e earo not
?we marked out our course many years
since, and have steadily pursued i*f reg tr<J
less alike of the obs'rucious thrown m our
way by ignorance and the surasm and rail, j
oulw iif the over wise.
It is saiJ that we have now more trees
in the countv than be wanted for the silk culture,
and therefore the present trade is a
sheer speculation upon fancy stoeks-in oth.
? r words, a humbug. Well let us look into
the question. There arc abo Jt 15,O0J,OdO
*f trees in the coun'ry. Suppose the whole
of these trees to be devoted to toe m iking of
silk next yoar.what will be the result ? They
will muko uoout 180,000 bushels of cocoons
the first year, which at $3, will b $")40.000
I iJrt Hrt.1 hnlin^j nf" r<t W s l L" wlljcll
*- * *VV)VVV inrtaiiwii v? I ?' - w
ut $ j will be $31K),00t), an 1 this supposing
every tree wll be so employed, and every
cocoon reeled, an J every pound of silk
sold. It will not bo considered unreasonable
to deduct ouo.h;?lf of the above
estimate on of the very largo
por.iou of the trees that nistd
*o mell, and that will not, under the
supposed circumstances, bo appropriat d
to making silk, even though tiiey are not
sold at ail. But to tike the proposition as
I stas is without deduciion, and wc find
we shall not have one-twen:i"th p art s 'k
enough to supply our home de/nand, an J
none tor exportation. Instead ot 8'dd,00U
uosrtKjof sdk- wont $20.003.01)0 worth
lor nomc consumption, nnd at least the same
amount for exportation, or at least forty-five
/ ' .1
itfties us r*uch as wc cat produce Hum me
tra s we have, even though the busiii?*^
Mould produce its results \?i:h muthem oical
precision?every tTccgrow and yield its full
quota of silk, without accident, or deduction
from any cause whatever. But upon the
forest culcuiutons and allowances for the
numerous casualties attending- all humm
utftirs, at leas', double the uumb'T of tries
w ill t>e requ red o produce the above results
on? year with another, and consequent,'
our deficiency of product will be doubled in
practice and therefore we shall want ninety
r.'Vir? as much as we can produce with oar
present stock of trees.
' The speculation in muHcculk" as it s
culi*<J, iothe best and only means by winch
u sufficient supply of trees can ho oh a tied
?n the country, for the production of t:??*
quantity of silk necessary, for home consumption
and exportation. We have shown,
to our oicn satisfaction at leas', that lh?*
country wants at least ninety time* as
many trees as wc no.v prossess. If the
price of trees be reduced, so that there w jj
to no object in raising tiiem to sell, the silk
business w;ll be confined to a very limited
amount ; lor it must be borne in mind that
the silk culture m to be carried on by the
poor classes mostly, who have neither land
nor cnp'tal to raise trefs.f Capitulate pro
duct irot^, and the poor classes use ilium.
If the capitalists abandon tin propagatton
of trees, their propagation ctvjs ? J and i
cupit il.sts see r;o prospect of profit able returns
{.Mm their investments, the\ abandon
i'i ; speculation of course. Some of t e
w >
^ otf Wallop ftT RrlnHnwilli*
N. C. Baddies the right horse with Ihs ''isdk
humbug." IIo asks what is humbug? And
answer*, that it is deceiving the public by false
^presentations in regird to any fact or alleged
the'. Xi.v who JeceivoB thd public in rcgud to
mik ciitare and mulboi ry culture, the friends of
tho business who deal ouly in truths and facts,
o<-:!? opponents who know and seem to arc nothing
about truths or fads in the ca c, and deal
oj.ly m rid.culo and childish blabber? The op.
pnnents being the doceivtrs, tb^y are the hum.
buggers.?C/.Z.
f The respectable author errs h >rc. The poor
Will be producers of silk, but they will never be
tho principal produorrs. '1 ho business will before
many yeara, be tho principal business of an
exta.nsivo and wealthy section of this country.
It tho vr'a'.U.y agriculturist cannot make it profun
We, tiie poor cannot, and if they cannot they
wdl not loliow it. And it tho wealthy can make
U profitable,?inorc so than other agricultural
occupation*?why will they not follow it ? We
should like to see a reason stated if any thore
ki. -??. To.
' T'
Over.wisc jp ail things, have said-?" admitting
that we wanted t*r> hundred times as
many trees as we have got, the tree multiplies
so rapidly that cvrn that number will
be supplied ia ?h- ye.tr." This is a mis
take also'. Although a careful culliva or
may multiply a fw trees even an hundr d
fold, yet the average yield to the country
ordinarily, is not n;ore thant<?n-foid, and the
pasf season it was not more than five-fold ;
so that it will require three years nurr,
even if cvoiy tree and every bud be planted
I *0 accomplish the object ; but as large portions
now in e xistence will be devoted to
making sdk, it will require six or seven
'to produce a full supply of trees, and nothing
bu: trio continuation of the purchase
and sale of Uie buds at pretty bigh prices
can accomplish it in tenfold mat time.
Therefore 44 the sp"cula ion in multiracial'
is no humbug, in this view of the case. Noi
is it a humbug, when ?e consider the intrin
sic value of the article, to wiich we now
proceed.
A new kind of cotton seed is selling ii
South Carolina at 80 p r qu irt. Way '
Simply because it is a better kind ban tha
ordinary planted, being more projective
and of a better staple. Atthes?mo mm
ordinary cot on see l is frequently giver
away and even Used as manure. Trie j?!an
tt-rs of cotton do no: consider i ? a humbug'
or a u mere spnculaiion:* to give at the rati
of one hundred and sixty dollars a bus he,
for the seed of a kind ot cot on that is bet lei
than the kind now in use,the seed of waiof
they can get for nothing ; and well thej
uny no', tor in the en 1 this h g!i price i>
more than repaid by the produce. So it i>
with the tntiittcauhs. Three cents s< con
a hign price to give for a sngie bud of fl
mu tical sor any other tree ; !?ut wnen it h
considered tint this single bu I wdl pro iuceai
tree five to eight fi-ct high in one season, tin
price p 'id for rh ; original hud dimiii'shcs to
ihe merest trifl . Wlt.if other kiodol treej
can be obtained as cneupiv ? The mo.si
common orchard fruit 'ret s canno! bo ob<
tain d as cheaply as vou can obtain inulti
caulis trees by purchasing the buds at tlir f
oen s eacu. L >ok at it. You iiiu.st firsi
raise a stock from the ston^, which req lircs
one yea ; you '"iia: then obtain scions to
bud them wi h. and thus another year ii
gone ; on the third year you have youi
peach tree rea iy to plant. Now suppose
)ou cnuid Lr"t buds of pea< h trees thai
would, tn six months, produce good bearing
| poach tre<-s, would you consider three canb
each a high poce for th' m ? The value
j of an article consists in the amount of nl.
vantage its possession conf"rs upon the pos.
s"ssor ; and the purch is t of an article musi
I - c ? _ : i.u. . : e .
ui uoarsc corimu^r hi u me possession 01 n
8 worth inoro lo him dun the amount o!
mon y he ipvrs for it. No n? tVr ho a
easily the original possessor may have oh.
tained it, nor how cheaply he can ubtaii
more,<if it can he made to pro luce mor
value than the purchaser piid tor it, i:
it rhenp to him. is the value of w ?ter in
hss b -cause iteos s usiiothtdj? ? The vert
; fact that the mui ioaul s is so easily maltij
plied ?? ! uorapi f 1 v grown,pr ves tin* grea
1 value of the buds'or eti tuigs that produce it
The intrinsic value of tin? article for propa
o i ion or lor the production of mulberry or.
-hards, therefore, we consider even lughe
than i h is ever sold tor yet. if ih ? silk bus
ncss i sell he not u a humbugand to tin
1 consi ieration of this part of tue subject \v?
now proceed.
The silk business ihtn humbug. Tba
siik can b * produced for home cousumptaji
an I for exportation itt all tiie Uni.ed .St ties
has been prove I. It is roar a regular busi
ness and a piofi able one in many s'at? so
ihe Uu'on, and is only rob'rdel in its pro
gro s over the whole extent of our eouatrj
hy the want of muiberiy trees. T ic lah
exhibition at the American Ins run; u
New York, of all deseri ion* of silk, frou
the cocoon to he most beautifully furs'iand
finest fabrics, would have aslouidi-i
ad doubters on the subject. The editor o
the New York Commere,al, in a no ic" o
he exhibition, in uc-s tais remark : ** W<
a! lid to a circular or oval tub!", n ui;
which are eo!l various speeiniens or
branchoi* mdasny which isuo.v o.vm intj t-".<
attention ?.i wry many of our most enter
prising citizens, an !.n which alar"" am >u i
of capita! iddreidy invested. It ismdeei
a matter of agreeable surprise to insper
the various specimens of silk, at id to inar
the progre s v\ h:c!i lias already b'* n ni id
n its gro wth and manufacture." E icli a u
ill of tbe producers of those sp< cim< ns t??s
tify to the profitable^ of the business. The
are satisfi* d, even in litis infantile stae c
the business, ^itli ts profits, The p op!
of Economy, PenusyJvan a, have made lb
growth and m inufheturo of s.lk a cons d*r t
hie brmrh of tlie.r bus n ss for in my year
pai?t, and the silk goo Is tlrn produce siren
i quality tha a til s cure them pr<-fer? ne
many murkc. We have no.v before u
ton *p-crnieus of tiuir goo 's, eru'iruein
dress s.lks, v .-s'ings, rihb >i)s, what
i try regularly make, from the fe.-dirig ?
[ .bo worms o tlie tints .ed goods, and wi
i which tney keep tie ir s ore supplied for r
j tat! trade. These people do no; pursu
speCid ilive objTin y do. no: wast
their time and capital upon unproduo.tiv
I subjects. It is lair, therefore, to co.ieluJ
that the k.u; tiii.vfu'jis u prohi.il,!< , or lii-:
would no: pursue it. That it is praehcabi
11 ;eJs no argument. The Let that it i? pji
tied ut all | rovs its prac t.cabilfcy.
L?t no one suppose that, becauw* we
i duce only one instance or the pndiinbl 'pui
suit of the s:ik basiiiess, there are iiootmr
in the Country. Tnere urea great iiu/ub 'r
hut the tact that it is prof) able wiih one, i
surfieiunt to piove that i; may be profruhl
vvuii all wliopu'sue :t with proper uinniioi
The si k business, therefore, is no hum
bug nuio. Much less will it be so consid
ered wlien it shall come fairly and fully mt<
operation in our coyutry?a consuirmia ioi
I which the writer oi this hopes to live tos? e
and which ho will sie shoulJ lie live tei
years. Let us look at tins humbug us i
will then present itself. VVesliull behold l
large helpless class of the community, thai
' no w can scarcely earn iwr.ty ?ent j u day
with their needless, and upon which pittance
they must live?live did we say ? no, endure
life.?from which pitta ice they ntusl
pay liou.se rent, and support-?or sustain
life in half a down helpkss little oms*.--the.s<
we shall s-e comfortably providing for themselves
by mak'ng si'k Our worn-ou:
fields and waste lands will thMn he covered
wrh mulberry orchards, and dotted v?ith
the comfortable cottages and cocooneries o
, silk growers?(for be it remembered, wc
l do n<?r want an acre of land now in profira
ble tillage in other branches of agricul ur?*.'
Our shipping wdl then be carrying from
i insvad of bringing :o, our shores. 829,000,
O(K) worth of silk ; and then we shall are a I
Kurope indebted to us, the balance of tradi
, will bo reversed, it will be in our favour
nd wc shall then regulate the money marke
' of the world. Then specie will come to u
r from all nations, and tuen we shall be.in fac
ns well as in name, emphatically an indepen
t d-nt people. All this may seem wild an<
extravagant ; but look at it. If we chi
> contrive to do without importing $20,000,
- * : ? .1 1
7 j ot)U oi any c??ci3 now nnj?ornu,"uu iu v,-v
r pori $i0.0;>0,t)0;>r?f a new article, do wo no
in efle<t make a d'fT roue in our favour 01
? th? balance sheet oi $40,OOO.Of>0 ? Th?
i balance of trade has seldom bem I'm
much against us, and indeed it could no' bt
' for uny length of time ; but it bus ai vay?
been against us ton greater or l?*s.s aiiiourr
I and will continue to be so uri'il we can do.
r vdope some now resource. ...produce sorn*
\ new article, which other nations will bu?
? and this new ar'iole has b^en discovered i;
j s Ik. V\ c have sbo vn that we can m?k
i silk ; that we can inakeuu hu iilred million:
i wor h annually without prejudice to un\
i other staple, there c in be no doubt. Wi
i have shown that we can in ike i! profitably
i arid tbereloro Chat we can supply our owr
> consumption, wnich wi'I save us twenty
, millions at least ; and if we can supp'y 011
, home demand, we c m export it; for, if wi
I can mak" s II* at a price and of a qualrj
, that wdl in bice ojr peoploto Use it in pre.
f renee otlie impor ed ar icle, we can m -k<
> it at a price .in I of a quali y that will enabl<
; us to si II ;t in foreign coun ries, and 4here
II far: v.c shall export it. With s.Ik wo cat
, reverse the balance of trade an! br ng a'
i Europe in debt to us. Therefore.-'.ke sill
busmegs that now occupi's tiv; diKmtion o
. so many of our cntorpiizing nt zens, is n<
i hua.b ig , neitner is ihe mul icaulis specula
r uon a humbug. G. B. S.
; j .
k From tha Phi'adelpnia Saturday Evening Po3t
SILK.
Though little appears to be sai l, during
, he universal depression which exwfj
t hroug ion the business forn numty, on th<
f suhjec of tiu* S Ik cul ure, its friends m?i
. rest assured that rr.uch is doing und moc
in contemplation. ScV'Tal meetings of t!v
j (ra nds of th s great cause, li ive bevu bek
. during tue present rnon'h in ids ci y/wbicl
^ liave resulted in the formation of h 11 Notion
, ni Association for the promotion oftfte Sill
('ultuie in t!in Una. cl from . wbie!
' * - - - - i 'p.~
t ie happiest results are amuipu ei, i ?
, husmess of :l e sue ely will fx? m inaged by <
president, fif een vice-president, tog" he
wi it uvn v one directors nnil oilier officers
wtio have been ss?-lec cd from among tli
r most distinguished individuals in th'd am
the different st'it'i. Five dollars ron*titu e
an annui], and twenty-five dollars a l:f<
membership. Ti?e finds w ic ? may b
realised are to be exp aided, under ihc dir
ec ion of die Assoc a ion, in tin; purciias
1 of cocoons, raw silk, and manufactured fa
' bries ; and in securing the best reel
' ut.d o htr implements icquired Ibr tlie silt
business ibrotigbou trie whole process c;
manuftcture. An extensive, permanerr
' J and fr? e exliibrion of ail m -tiers vdating t
' *be silk business from its incipient to it
perfect stages, arc among the objects con
* I t"inplajad by the association, with a view c
1 furnishing s rangers who may visit the cir\
as well as the public generally, a1 nil :ime?
r with an oppcrtunity of exam.ning 'or them
solves, as to lite actual progress and probn
bh success ofthe silk eul ur-*. Tne socio
p tv lias already neeured some valuable spr
* ci n-ns from t >e manufactory of J. W. CM
4 M >unt l*ieas.iiit, O no, which are among ii
oos perfect and beautifully finished oud
we a .ve yei ex inline !, no Withstanding Mi
\V. only emaarked in t ie enterprise la:
?p. ing. Among hem arc several specimen
1 of broad. ?i *h ribbons, of various pattern
an d fully equal, so far as our judgment go> i
' to'any imported. S > p rfect are h:s arr uig?
c meats, that he is already enabled to 'ak
" any pattern or figure, however difficult, an
\ in the cours" of three or four hotfts have h
* orangeint nts completed for transferrin
( them to bis looms, in which seven p eccs <
1 wide rtbuons arc wove at one time, and i
* the r??t?* of on - hundred yards per da\
* ilich silk plush lor hat mmuiac:ure> an
other purposes, wore among the specimen."
i: am! Mr. G himself'wore a handsome si
velvet v sf, created I'roin materials that he
*' spring wore in the hud?his goo Is hav
actually been rnauufaeture 1 or produce
from lite ino-us mo! icauhs wu ?.ut In
1 spring. Mr. G. \V. Ash, of tins cuy, als
exhibited a? th?- meeting on Tuesday ever
(' mg, siik of a beautiful soft, rich a-.d gloss
1 appearance and of very superior qu i ity
'' the value of a portion oi which was greatl
enhanced Iroin the fact of its having bee
) reeled frotn perforated cocoons.
"* This associat on, whion is to essentia
r' ly N itional m its character, ot?j cts and oj
cr.ition is destined t<fpro*e a most vidua.i,
! and important auxiliary ii the promo ion <
r- the S.Ik culture in this country, and all vvii
"* (eel an itC'T st in the matter, should haste
; 'o forward their names as members, wh e
s can be done, ue suppose, throu?'i the me.
'' ium of t ith?-r of tie. following lM-ntletr.ei
who, we an- informed, have been lecte
- officers of the association, viz. N c '?'n
- l';ddle, Esq. President, John H* Wi
y lets Treasurer; Mr. N. Solent, Kr
? cording Secretary; Mr. J?>lmC!urk, C\ i
. responding Secretary 01 the Vi<c Pr< si
? dents we are only able to mention the name
i oi P. S. Dnponceau. the flon. U. B. Wal
i of New Jersey; Hon. Wni. C. K ves c
t Virginia ; Calvin Blythe, Esq.; Jonatha
' Urb.Tts, and ethers of Pennsylvania.
i * Othor nations, far less favourably situated
thau a large portion of our own h is
: proved itself t be, are successfully advaui
en;' in ibis business, a3 witness thy lollowi
.
i ing extract.
11 T'te cultivation of Silk in Prussia
is yearly increasing, notwitbstandI
ma the frosts which destroy every winter, a
i considerable number of mulberry tree's. In
f | the neighborhood of Potsdam there are now
? 278 plantations of that tree. Last year's
croo exc.t ed'-d 13,1)00 lbs. of Silk of an ex.
) Calient quality, which sold at the rate of 30f
, to 37f per pound."
llEre is what Prussia has done arid yet,
I although large portions of our soil and c|i?
i ma;e are sat.sfactor.ly ascertained to be full v
, equal to the bos' portion cf China, wo still
t find ignorance and narrow inindneas striv-?
ing to excite prejudice and distrust on this
t most important topic. We behold France
I standing in pro id defiance on her immense
1 treasur s of.solid specie, the fruits of her
i Silk pro due**, w ule England is drained of
her last d d?ar,?and America is suffering
f o n importmg every thing, and exporting
t comparatively nothing. Bu ' very indica.
l tion is favorable now, and the Silk culture is
runs; assffe lly destined to achieve a glorit
ous triumph in sp to of temporary depress
ions or opposition of the dogs in the manger.
4
, PHILOSOPHY OF ADVERTISING.
A L'e numb- rof Chambers' Edinburgh
Journal contains a very in teres ing article
" ' - ?L ? --..LI!,.
, on rho subject ol acivrusing in me puum:
i papers, by nn " 01J Tr tdesman." His
? ideas on toe subj-ci are cert i inly worth t!ic
i ?t!cntion of ull who nr" anxious for business,
f and are simply and bra-fly as follows
; firs' utility of fr--qn<*r.t an J r-gulir advt-rti,
sing is this there is ut all times a large
i elass of iH'rsons, both n country and town,
who have no fixed places for the purchase
r of certain necessary articles, and ore ready
to be swayed ami towards any particular
i place which is constancy brought under
their view. Indifferent to all. they yield
? wittiout hesitation to the first who asks,
t Then, in the country, a considerable num
lier oI persons, who wish a supply of them.
i nnturdly op-*n a comraunica ion wih I'm:
I address, whicli, perhaps, leads to much ul*
i | t^rior business-.^People in the are country
f also liable to be fivorably impressed by tbe
) frequ nt sight.of the name in the newspaper.
The advortisin p irty acqm es dstincfion
in their eyes, and ihusth^y are led, in makin?
a choice, to pr 'fi r hi n. But by far the
most important effect of advertizing is one
of an indirect ii iture, tiat conveys ;he iinf
pressiou thai the party?protending or no
pretending, quaekish or not quackish?a
anxious for business. One wlio is anxious for
/ business, is unavoidably sup|>osed to be
p industrious, at:en'ive, civil does every thing
- in (be neatcs and most trad-'sm in I kemanf
r#t'r, und in general uses e.ery expedient to
I- Kafcify ami arrant bis cos omer.s. People
IPcourse iiko to purchase under these cirft
c^jftstances, the sys em of advertising as*
1 surjn<? tliein that so h circumsances ex st at
c this particui >r siiop, they select it accord ng
ly. Such arc the opinions of the old trades*
f man alluded to, and they are certainly sups
ported by fact for wherever a regulur
system of adverising is practised, and
d no back-drawing or unconquerable circum
s auce exist, it is usually s -en to be a tend d
2 with a consid* ratde share of success too.
e (hie feature in Uie phdosophy of the subject
must he carefully attended to. \ fijrit and
n untr-quen' sy.-tem of advertizing dors my
succeed even in proportion. ' Drink deejj
5 or taste not the Pierian Spring.
k Sunday Atlas,
if
'* Gov Marcv and Senator Tallmadds ofNeh
York.?Gov. Mircy in his meaaago to th<
Legislature of Now York in lc37, endorsee
i- *
tho sub.trcaaary scheme, then recently, recom
mended to Congress by the Pnr ideut. It ap
n"'ir? hftA'Pvcr thai un to <t verv short time be
5 r? - -r *
) fore the d<te of that lucasig*, Gov. M. ox
pressed himself as opposed to the inrasun
vvhiclt the m !*sig"! supported, and no sitisf tc
toiy roason for tho change has been published
( Tho following letters and introduction wer<
published in thi* Now Y?ik p ip?rs a little be
fore tho late election in that atato. We copj
thorn, not so much as an article of news, ai
to exemplify the d. giee of reliance to bt
is placed on tho professions ofpoliiical loaders.
s, Mr. Tallmadge it w;II bo reiTiembop'ti
k- i lias char2"d on difTuent occasions, tint
I
: Governor Marcy previous to the extra aes
1 ston of Congress, in 18:17, advised him tt
is oppose tue Sub-Treasury Scheme, arte
Z a fter the extra session, approved of his up>f
position to it.
it To bring he matter to un issue betweer
the parties, we are authorized and requestor
i to say, that immediately oti the receipt o
<, t ie Argus containing the article above allu
k iied :o, Mr. Tdlmudge ad iresscd to Gov
st Marcy, ai Albany, the fallowing letten
e which was mailed at Pougjikeepsie on tie
d 16ih of October.
st PoUGHKEKIME, Oet. 15, 1639o
Sir: I have staled on different occasions
thai previous to the extra session of G.?n?
y gross in 1837, you advised me,at iny Aonse,
; to oppose the Sub.Treasury S heme, it Mr.
|y Van Buret) should recommend i: ; that of.
n tcr the ex ra session, on board of the steam1
boat you approved of my course in oppos.
' - ? ll . t
|. I leg it. aricJ roiiJi iniV tl .Mr. V .? ? inneu s in
>. recommending it, and said tiiatvou would
It; not endorse i; in your message to t!ie Le>
jf gisiaiurc. Such opinions I also understand
? you freely expressed to other*n
1 wish you to sav, whether you ?h*ny ihe
i triii!) oi the above sluietoonh or whether, ir
J. the article in *?!- A'inr.y Arg is,of il.e 14'!i
i, .list., w)o iiaVe au'dior avdor intetided a ded
ni il ot i.
is ; Very n*pn<\fully,
I- Your ob't serv'f,
> N. I'. Tailmadge.
Hon. Wk L. MaRcy.
To t!us Utter no aj^cr fins been returna
ed by Gov. M ircy. mthough neuily twe
I, Weeks huve elapsed since its receipt by him
>f in clue course innik Mr. Tailmadge lias
n waited this length of time for the express
purpose of giving Gov. Marry ample op.
f.
portunity to respond to it, and his refusal to
answer is considered an admission of its
truth. But Mr. T. Joes not choose to rest
it here.
At the time lie addressed the letter to
Gov. Marcy.hc also addressed one to G"n.
Lev. Hubbell. {Its answer is as follows;
Itiiaca. Oct. 10 i, 1839.
Dear Sir?! yesterday received your letter
of tho 15th iiist.
I wns in Now York at the close of the
extra session in 1857, ar?J know that Gov.
Marcy .was there, and returned soon aft?*r.
A few Jays after his return to Albany, h?
(old me, at his house, that he had return s
in the boat with you ; and e then expressed
much gratification at the course pursuei
by yourself and the Conservatives in Con
gress. He, at thesime time, s'rongly anc
openly condemn1 d the Sab-Treasun
Scheme recommended by Mr. Van Buren
and expressed his dissatislhetion at the
course of the Wash'ngton Globe and the
leading Loco Focos in this State.
During the extra session and after it, J
had several conversations with Gov. Marry,
in ail of which he expressed the same
views. His opin ons were freely made
known to any of his political friends who
were near him. I was not then a state officer,
but I know that a d.fiVr< nee of opinio;]
exis ed between the stale officers in rofirenee
to the Sub-Treasury Seh"i?c, ant
Gov. M irey declared to me, that on thrcception
of the special message he had in
presence of several of the state offijers,
openly expressed his disapprobation of 'h
President's recommendation. Tle-s" things
were nor secie's. Tney were knewn to
hundreds in the* party, who then Hievd
that if Gov. M ircy should come out in his
mess ?ge, and take the grounds he had taken
in his conversations, lie woul 1 be sustained
by the great body of the people of this
State.
Since your political consistency and integrity
have been called in question, foi
supporting, in 1533 and 1839, the m-an.
ures which Gov. Marey and many leading
member*; of the party openly supper'et.
with you in 1837,1 have deemed if m.? du'J,
on two occasions, where you were preset,
to state verbally, the substance of t!i<s I t.
ter,?I refer to the recent Conservative
'State Convention at Syracuse, an / the
Conservative County Convent on at th
place.
Very r> speci fully.
Your oh't serv\
LEVI MJBBEL.
Hon. M. P. Tallmados.
Gen. Hubb-Ii was the late Adjutan
1 Ceijeral ut this State?appointed by Gov
Ma rev.
THE FLORIDA VVAR.
From the quare.r from \?h c i the follow
1 ir.g or i< In comes, we presume hut * n ir?"
chance may be placed upon its state
in'-nts :
From the Army and Navy Chrcniclc, Oct. 31
Florida War.?Th* season I or active
o, e ra nuns having ic'umcd, and the pubi c
mir.d, in t ie Army as well as out ofi, be
irig somewhiu nu tated by the contradictory
nature of tie* re^ors in circul it on, we hav?
rn<?do inquiry (hat we might inform our
readers what measures were-contemplated,
in the approach.ng campaign.
Gen. Taylor, by the zedous and in eljj.
g?*nt disc:large of his dutier, havng given
satisfaction to the Department, will con:in
ue in command.
The troops now ill Fhrida are die thirc
regiment ??f artillery, a portion of the secood-fragowns,
and th<t srr.^d, sixtri
un I seventh regiment* of infant-y. T o
r tfiird ar:.i.cry, having lecn mm h reduced
> | w;!l be sent to the no'th, and be relieved'
i by the first nr; tilery, which has been recru't
ed, and is now full, Tlfti companies u
' the second dragoons that arrivKj at I\?*w
j York in tliH 8prufgo?*ing now full also, w!
- j return to Florida; and the regiments o
3' infantry now dice will rem .in.
.1 ft is intended o drive the en. my o.it o
. i he settlements by occupying the country
3 wtlun and nor-h of a line drawn from i*Hat
ka to the rnoeth of the Wiihlocooei et?, in<
j eluding Forffv ng; thence, along the west'
? em coast, o the Appalachian!.*; an Mm
3 maintaining posts as low Jown as the mout!
of the Witnlacoochee. The inhabitant!
will be armed, and the defence of their lire
sides nnf neighborhoods confided to them
' with such assistance from the r< gulars tn
o- casim may call for. The pos s on th<
} coast at Tampa Bay will he continued, wit!
^ such others as the Commanding Genera
mat find expedient,
fixperienco having mournfully proved tin
4 icr racticability of forcing the Indians frori
I tfc-'ir swamps and hammocks, so familiar t<
j them, but accessible to us, no further at
tempts will at present be made; leaving <
time and the gradual spread of the settle
men s the accomplishment of an obj"Ct un
, attainable by arms.
The report so extensively circulated o
conferences between the Sivretary of VV'a
and Major Generals Macomb and ?vottan
entirely wihout found xtion; no such con
ferences have been held. Kquaily tiufonnd
ed is that ofsending seven thousand t.oop
to Florida ; if all our regulars now out o
the territory were taken firom their presen
stations. thev would not amount to thi
number nam-J. The Northern, Noi'.h
i western ami Southwestern tronturs an
quite as much exposed, and stand as mucl
I in need of defence as does the T<*rr tory o
Florida. Tiicro lias been no ent"r
tain* d heretofore ol" sending the eighth in
.antry in:o Fior dn, its pios'T.ce being eon
( side-red cssen hi to the main etmnre of net!
fra'niy 0:1 toe borders of Canal;:, T.'i
fourth artillery W'.i he s.atioucd bot.vee;
Fort Niagara ar.d Buffalo.
It is hrii v--d tha' some additional sma
vessels will be built or purchased, and se?;
I'h.'so rein irks were preparrc for the Chror
icle of October 224, but since they wore u t itle
information has been received witich renders
inexpedient :o withdraw the 1st artillery at |?r<
pent from the CanaJa Frontier. The third wi
therefore remain in Florida until the exigent
ot the at-rvico at othcrjioiats will allow of i
being relieved.
1 j to- ih'; frowst of Florida, to prevent depr<-- *
dntions by the Indians upon wrecked ves!
*o!s and their crews.
' Connected with the foregoing remarks, * j
a retrospect of recent even's in Flurida. will
not be inappropriate.
Daring the last session of Congress an
appropriation of $5,000 was made "for the
purpose of holding a treaty with the Serni.
nolo Indians." In vfitue of this appropria- ,
tion, Gent ml Macomb was sent to Florida;
and, being the tie:iera!.in*chiof of the Ar.
my, it was thought that ids rank would have
; more weight and influence with the Indians
1 than a civilian co-dd have. General Ma
cornh held co / fences wi h some of the
1 chiefs, and ffnally entered into an agree
meat (then- was no written treaty) with
1 j C.'iitto T'?>tenugg<\ the acknowledged sue.
t cesKor *>f Ar-pLucki, or Sam Jones ; ('ho
, latter, it is understood, has never held cr
; exercised any military command,but stands
} in the light of a counsellor among his tiibe.)
One oftne stipulations of this agreement
I was the establishment of n trading post
. near the mouth of S) nabel river. The
i mis/ion of Col. to carry intoeflect
i t!ii> s ipulatiou, the surprise of his party, the
> miss' cro of a por ion, and the escape of the
i?st, are familiar to all. Sam Junes and
i. .iii tribe were at the time in the vicinity
of Fort Lauderdale, distant about 100
miles, and have not only derfied nil participation
in, or knowledge of. the massacre,
but up to the latest advices continue to
manifest a neu ral deposition and an inten.
tion to abide by the agreement made with
G-n nl Macomb.
The approacuing campaign, then, will
p rtuke more of a defensive than offensive
c bract or, us it will be confined to driving iil
thi Indians froiri the set.led portions of '
Fbrida, where they have committed deprc- I
; tl.lions almost widiout check. It having
ben found impossible to force the Indians
frcn their fastnesses, any further attempt ]
to:ffcct that uhj?*ct would only be attended I
wii a needless sacr fire of lifo and money.
r ?___ .fry!
j A MOVING SCENE. ^ . ?j|
The Rookvilie Recorder gives the fo!?
l.nticr description of a pathetic seen ? J]M
wh!) r?'cen ly occurred at P<r.h, Upper I
, Cat da. The prisoner was indicted for the
| miner of his son in-law:
"eihips wo should notice that, during Ifl
' the krestiga'ion, the widow of the decens
ed, ^o was at .ho same time the daughter -aH
of tli prisoner, was on the part of the cV.
feuotbrongh* in'o court to be sworn. S!e
?pp?.'*:d in mourning?pule, thin. ant.
( gre t discomposed ; and it was only with
I'X'-r ij on her part that she could keep . rJf^B
romped enough to speak; however, fuMH
uo'liin very ma'eritil was elicited from her.
Ife filings (requrn ly overcome her, and
she but cu' into loud sobs, at one of whicli HI
, tmes s? cast her eyes upon 'he prisoner,
and scu'ched 4 father ! father /' The
court, ocourse, oidered iter removal; she j
hud to pts h< r fa her, to whom she exten- ? deJ
her ?ud in the mi 1st of h'*r sobs and H
jt'iri^Ls of fyhrr t Anther /' The old man,
: m tears, ro-bcJ out his hand to his-wUL
ed daugbtei the hand which, at the instil > 1
ga'ion of hi h -art, had been the means
alike of her is-cry and his own ; she re- ,
ceiv' d it, an^ns taken away. Tlie scene
was tragical, nd, though, between these .?*humli'e
mdivicals, brought -tears to many
' an e\o.M
IMPORTANT tciSIOX?HABEAS CORPUS
CASE.
! On the 21st So'ember last. John S bioy
was imprisoned nd?-r an affidavit, churg..
i ing him w;th the?riT:e of murder, in the ^
?' vt'e ?4* Miasiss'Pf, He obtained writ of "
, habeas corpam frufi Uu.' Comme* ?a! Court,
* on his itffi Ktv it hat he tva* * citizen c-f
Mississippi?war nnocent of* ?e charge?
f and thai his rgh; as an \tnerican were y
* violated.
I On the 5th hs. the case was tried. It
t appears that ntticoof the arrest and deti-n..
lion ha I been given o the Governor i t'
f Mississippi, amino answer had beer, received.
It was urp?d for the prisoner, that no
charge had boermrilo against him in Mi*- P
ss*!,.pi, nor haoihe Governor demanded h
- that he should b delivered lip. That tin?
' Cor^tifution of th United States only uL
i lows the arrest of i person already charged
s w i;h a crime in oie sate, and flteing.into
another. Tint he was deprived of his right ~~~
, of trial, which lie demanJed. That there
i was no law authorising his detention. That
J he should ' e discaargod. I
? Tlie Attorney General stated, that the j
1 practice in such cases always had b?en, for ^ I
the R corder 'o inform the Governor of the
. state wnere inc crime is ctmrgcd to nave I
1 been committed, of the proceedings, an J I
> after wailing a reasonable time, without nn
. answer and a demand, to discharge the
y nrsoner from custody, lie submitted the
case to the Court.
His honor Judge Watts, in remanding
the prisoner in o custody, observed, that the
t Mates owe certain duties to each other, hor
those prescribed by th: Constitution?
; that the arrest of persons in cus**s like the
present, he considered one of those duties.
. He considered that sufficient time had not
s elapsed to hear fiotn the Govrrnor of Mis.
f; sissippi, and after sucli time should t lapse,
t! tiie Court would, on application, order the
? ; prisoner to be disc!iarg? d from custody.
- j N. Oyleans Bulletin.
H
^ t SURGICAL OPERATION*
I Tho curious surgical operation of sup.
! plving the loss of a nose was performc! ut
j Albany last wool; by Prof ssor March, of ^
11he Medical College, with complete success.
In this case the patients nose was entirely
; gone, and us loss was supplied by detachu
! ing sufficient skin from the forehend, leav
| iair it connected between t> eeyi hrows?, und
|| bringing down, and molding it into the
n form of a nose, the raw . nd bicuiing surface
being closely appl nl to a similar raw
surface made upon t' t* margin of the*forn
mm nose, to wh oh a<lh? s:on is affected.
11 The Albany Argus adds that the patient '*
u rest lent ot that city, and sustained the
,B painful and tedious operation with signal
lb ' fortitude, and ut its termination rose from
! the opera-ingtable, and wdVd :.o'? "a
W.
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