Farmers' gazette, and Cheraw advertiser. (Cheraw, S.C.) 1839-1843, November 22, 1839, Page 6, Image 3
HI turn of buek,
emoo'fe lands,
find hia account
:ro? for year4
fpr fumtly usp,
his swino^A^j
era, or |^>pi
o^tkUWdW
for good
IE.
*
s?a $ilk Soofoty.
? Strnjgp as the word at the head of this
u nruokr may appear to eqnli a pla-'e as this,
','7 ' )>fctTe? only-oho that w?i serve as an index
to thesubject of our present remarks. The
ailliiftsinnas is culled a humbug by many of
* Ike eowspapera of the day ; nnd the mulberry
business la nonsiden-d or asserted to
fee the, very prince of humbugs, by m my
people, no well as bv larsro nar.ion of ilie
i -v preea.* tV? <$p no* pretend to be more wise
then our neighbor** in the ordinary business
*s' of life ; but on this single subject we do proit'll
to hevo bestowed mofo attention lltnn
Can poesibly have beondeitotod to it by men
engaged in other pursuits, wnil whoso atten- ,
tion to k con only hnvo ,Mun casual, and
oven thon very brief and mperficial. Wo
therefore assert, that the silk business is no
ktunbeg ; thot tho spoculuiiou, as it is called,
: in tnukicaulis trees, even in its wildes' aspect
iu no humbug ; that tho first will be
tho greatest among the many great blessings
yet conferred upon our happy country, ami
that the second, ** the speculation in mulii*
caulis," i* the very eieaus by which the
certain end speedy fruition ofihiugr'-st bleu- I
mttff is to obtained, W? know well that
* we shall bo called an " oirhusiast," wo
have often licrotofore been ; hut we euro not
-?-we marked out our ccurse many years
since, and have steadily pursued ??, re gird
less ulike of the obn'ruc ions jhrown m our
way by ignorao'oe snd tlursorasm and ruli.
culu of the oner wise. ,
It is saiJ that wo have now mow trees
in the county jhan be wanted fur the silk culture,
snd therefore the present trade is a
sheer speculation upon fancy stocks-in olh?r
words, u humbug. Well let us look into
the question. There are about 15,009,000
tiTtrees in the country. Suppose the whole
of these tree* to bo devoted tot He miking of
silk next ywtr.what will be th<? result ? They
will <nuke about 180,000 bushels of co^onus
the first year, which at 93, will b * $r>40.00l)
or 180,009 pounds of raw s Ik which
t $3 will be $800,000, mi 1 this supposing I
every tree w.ll be so employed, und every
oCoon reeled, an J every pound of silk
sold. It will not bo considered unreuvontible
to deduct ono.h?lf of the above
estimate on**-account of the very large
portion of tho trees that were ruis? J
1 ~fw~wa& M&. that will not, under the j
Suppose*! circumstances, be uppropriut'd
to miking silk, even though they ure not
sold at ulL. But to take the proposition h*
it stands without deduction, and wc find
we ahull not have one-twentieth part s>lk
enough to supply our home demand, an J
none tor exportation, (ustcad of $90,000
SL. u-aritJ^J ?iik, we want $20,003.00(1 worth
lor home consumption, and at least the same
amount for exportation, or at least forty.five
times us much ns we cos produce from the
trs -a wo have, even though the business
'^should produce its results with mathematical
' iulnn?^tvnMi >?ii? i?aiu ? ?/l .?!-> it? f.. 11
J ,J y ? VI ^ HW^IUIT ?(iu ?? IUII
quota of silk, without accident, or deduction
. from any cause whatever. But upon tin*
forest calculations and allowances for the
numerous casuulitiea attending all hunt ?n
elf?irs, at least double the uumhor of trees
will be required to produce the above results
one year with another, und consequently
our deficiency or product will be doublet! in
practice and therefore we shall want ninety
times as much ns wo can pruducc with our
present' stock of trees.
? The speculation in multicnulia" as it is
calkid, is the best and only means by which
sufficient supply of trees can be ob a tied
tit the country, for the pro<luc:ion of the
quantity of silk necessary, for homo con.
sumption and exportation. We huve .shown,
to our own satisfaction at least, that th?ceuntry
wants nt least ninety time* as
many bees us wc now prossess. If the
price of trees be reduced, so that there will
be no object in raising litem to sell, (lie silk
business will be confined to a very limited
amount ; for it must be borne in mind that
the siik culture is to be carried on by (lie
poor classes mostly, who have neither land
nor csplta) to raise treps.f Capitalists pro
due* tret#, and the poor classes use them.
If the capitalists abandon the propagation
of trees, their propagation ceas- s j and i
capitalists seo no prospect of profitable re-turns
from their invcstineuts, thev abandon
riw speculation of course. Some of U ?
TUo Rct. Sidney WiHer of Brir\kl?yvilln,
N. C. saddles the right horse with tha 4,Silk
humbug.4* He wks what is humbug T And
w?w?r?, that it is deceiving tho public by false
representations in regard to any fact or allrgud
fi?o\ Now who deceivos tha public in rcgatd to
mik culture and mulbeiry culture, tho friends of
tho business who deal only iu truths nnd facts,
ot its opponents who know and seem to csre nothing
about truths or facts in the ca*e, and deal
only in ridioalo and childish blabber T The opponents
being the deceivers, they are tho hum.
hugger 3.?Ga*.
f The Respectable author errs h >re. Tlio poor
will be producers o( silk, bat they will never ho
the principal producers. The business will Imjfor*
many years, be tho principal business of an
exieaaivo and wealthy section of this country.
If tin wesHhg agriculturist cannot make it pro.
timbie, tlie poor Oanuet, and if they eannot they
will nut toliow it. And if the wesi^ can mak#
U profitable.?more so than other ogricoW*^!
occupation*?why will they no* follow it 1 We
should like to s?? ? reason atated if any there
JJV ^ my .TWlfs "
-rwr?' *
o?9r.wi?Q utaH thing*, mW**-" ad.. lw
mitting that we wanted.** hundred tiroes aa th
many trees as wo h*?*gpt, tho tree mulii- di
|4ta??| so runi'Uy tfdtt even thai number will p<
bo suppfoiuidsft V.onr.** This is a mis til
take also* jMlthough a careful eultiva or *
may mw^iply a t*w trees even an hundr d *?
foW^ yW iho a*??rogo yield m the country >fi
QjrfuiHrily, is not more than t??n. fold, and the vv
'pay* season it was not more than fiveJold ; tl
so tl?nt it will require threw yours more, si
toon if evmy tree aed every bud bt? planted d
to accomplish the object ; but as largo por- b
lions now in existence will be devoted to 0
making silk, it will require six or seven in
HO produce a lull supply of trees, and noth- 0
mg but tbo continuation of the purchase H
and sale of the buds ut pretiy high prices, w
can accomplish it in ten-fold thai time. i
Therefore the specula ion in mulficaulet" o
is no humbug, in tins view of the case. Nor fi
is it a humbuu, when we consider the intrin a
sic value of ihw article, to witch wo now d
proceed. c
A now kind of cotton seed is selling in t
South Carolina st 83 per quart. Why 7 0
Simply because it is a better kind :hun that p
ordinary planted, being more productive. "
and of a better staple. Atthcs?av> lime tl
ordinary cotton seel is frenuentlv niven b
away and even used an manure. The plan "
klw? of cotton do no; consider ?. * n humbug" f?
or a u mere speculation" to give ut the rate b
of one hundred and sixty dollars a bushel a
for the aeed of n kind ot cotton that is better v
than the kind now in use, tho seed of which '?
they can get for nothing ; and well they a
in ?y not, tor in the en I this h'gli price is smore
than repaid by the produce. So it i* Si
with the mtiiticaulis. Tlirco cents s< ems w
a hign price to give for a single bud of a ?>
tnu'ticnlis or any other tree ; hut when it is h
considered that this single hud wdl produce" m
true five to eight feet high in one season, the m
price pud for tho original hud diminishes to "
tmerest 'rifle. What other kindol trees h
can bo obtained as rneaplv 7 The most
common orchard fruit tree# cannot be ol). tii
In ill--d us cheaply us you can obtain inulti f'
caulis trees by purchasing tho buds nt thr> e ,l
cen .s each. Look nt it. You must first 11
raise n stock from the stono, which req lire# ^
one yea ; you r?ust then obtain srions to r'^
bud tlieni wi h. and thus unotlier year is E
gone ; on the third your you have your hi
peach tree ready to plant. Now suppose St
you could get buds of pea? li trees thai ni
would, tn six months, produce good bearing
peach trees, would you consider throe cents p
eacn a price lor them 7 The value
of hij article consists in the amount of a Ivantage
its possession confers upon the pos.
s?*ssor ; and the puroli i??r of an article must
of course consider tint the possession of it
is worth inoro to Itini th in l ie amount of Sl
inon y he gives for it. No iii tvr how
easily live original possessor may have oh.
(ained it, nor how cheaply he can obtain ''
more, 4f it can lie made to prolueo more '
value than the purchaser paid for it, is 1
it cheap to him. Is the value of w iter ho
I"ss because itcos s its uothidg ? The very
fact tliut the null icaulis is so easily inalti- |
| plied and ho rapi ily grown, pr ves the great
I value of the buds* or ou tings that produce it. ^
Th?? intrinsic value of the article for propa. w
ga ion or for the production of mulberry or- *
I chnrds, thertfore, we consider even higher "
than i It "is ever sold for yet, if tit-* silk bus - "
noss I sell he not u h humbug ami to lim n'
consideration of tins part of the subject we
now proceed.
The silk business thin humbug. That )(1
siik can b-* produced for home consumption ^
and for exportation in all the Uni i d .St ue.s,
has been prove I. It is row a regular busi |J(
ness and a pi oft able one in many s'atesof m
lite Union, and is only roterde I in its pro.
gro s over the who!* extent of oar eon dry j ,|t
by the want of mulberry trees. T ie late | Ul,
t-xuiuMinn in in*? American ln?. i'uto nt j
Now York, of all desoreioiu of silk, from f {
the cocooii to 'he most beautifully fiies'esl
and finest fabrics, would huv? nslouid'd w
ad doubters on the subject. Tim editor o' sr
tlio Now York Coinmore.al, in a no ire ?>t .j
the exhibition, m iic-s tuis remark : "We lv
al uda to a circular or oval table, upon
which arc vo'l.e.ied various speeimens o <
brancliof industry which is now o.vi ini? t .e j
attention of very many of our most enter
prising citizen*, a.id ;n which a large am ai n ^
of capital is|dreudy invested. It is indeed
a matter of agrteuhlo surprise to inspect ()
! tlic various specimens of silk, and to mark a
I the progrc s which has already b-* n m ule {
n its growth and manufacture." Kichand
all of ttie producers of tboso sp< cim? ns tealify
to tjioprofitiibloa of the business. They jr
ire satisfied, even in this infantile sta o o!
the business, w itti ts profits. The people p
of Economy, Ponusylvana, have made the
growth and in mufuehire of s.lk a cons d? r i. p
blc br inch of their busnss for in my years ^
past, and the silk goods th'iv produce are of tJ
a quality tha will s .euro them preference
in any murker. We have now b fore us v
ton sp 'cuneiis of tin ir goods, ernbrneinL' 1 -
dross sitln, voaUngs, ribbons, which H
uioy regularly make, from the feeding of j
.ho worms o tlit* tiniH .<:d goods, ami wi.h s
w|j?eh they keep theirs ore supplied lor frail
trade. Tiw-sm people do no; pursue ,
speCit.'nlive object*. Tliey do. no: waste H
their tim" and cubital upon unproductive .j
subjocw. 1( i? fair, therefore, to co.icluJ
that I ho s.ili business is profitable, or tit-:y f|
would no; pursue it. That it is prnchcuhl'i
needs no argument. The fuct that it is par- |,
ued ut all | rovs its practicability.
L?t no one suppose that, because we ad. u
duce only one instance of the profiiabl - pur- tl
suit of the silk business, there arc n<> outer*
in the Country, There urea great nufiib--r; (
but the fact that it is prnfiuhlo with one, i* ci
sufficient to piove that i; may ho profi'nhle t(
with all who pursue it witli proper uit> miou. w
The si:k business, therefore, is no hum. <>
bug now. Muc.li leas will it bo so consid- (!
erod when it shall come fairly arid fully into le
opera.ion in our country?-a cotisummu ion ec
which thu writer of this hopes to live to see, re
and which bo will a< o shout J ho live ten di
yei.rs. Lot us look at (his humbug as ii ot
wtU tfigm present iuelf. Wo shall In hold u of
large heTpto** cjuss of tlio community, that V
now can scareejy ear? twenty cent* u day H
ith their needless, and upon which pittance
iey must live?-live did we any t no, enjre
life,.?from which pitta ice tltev must
iy house rent, and supp<>rt--?nr sustain
Fb in half a dozen helpless little ones-...these
o shall ???e comfortably providing for .hem.
dves by making siik Our worn.out
elds and waste lands will then he covered
?i:h mulberry orchards, and dotted with
)e comfortable cottages and Oocooueries of
Ik growers?-(for be it remembered, we
n not want an acre of lund now in profitalo
lillago in other branches of agrtcul ure.)
hir shipping wdl then he currying froin,
ts'ead of bringing 10, our shores. $20,000,*
00 worth of silk ; and then we shall sen nil J
ill rope indebted to us, the balance of trudu
'ill bo reversed, it will be in our favour,
ivJ we shall then regulate tin* money market
f the w orld. Then specie will route lo us
'om all nations, and then wo shall bc.iu fact
s well as in name, emphatically an iudcpoii.
tit people. All this may seem wild aid
xtruvagaut ; but look at it. If we ran
o itrive to do without importing $30,000.00
of any goods now imported, and to o\ ort
$30,000,000 of a new article, do we not
1 effect make a ddF ronce in our favour oil
tie balance sheet oi $40,000.tMK) ? The
alunce of trado has seldom been t'ni
inch against lis, and indeed it cou.'lno' he
jr tiny length of lime ; hut it has always
eon against us to a greater or Jess auioiur,
nd will continue to be so uu'il we can do.
dope some n<?w resource, ?produce some
ew article, which oilier nations will hit.,
il l this new article hua 'ii-cn dn-overed i.i
Ik. \\ o h ive shown tint wo can in ik
Ik ; that wo can inakeun tin i<lrud millions
or h annually without prejudice to an\
llicr staple, there cm be no doubt. We
nve shown that we can in ike it profitably,
i(,d therefore that we ran supply our own
Diisumption, which will save u? twenty
uliions at least ; and if* we ran supp'y our I
iitnu deiiiau 1, we v.v.i export ii ; tor, if wo j
>ii iiiorv- d infill < (iniri: illiu (II <1 (JU 'II )
ml Will in luce ojr peop'.oto use it in prerenco
o tho impor ?*cl ar trio, we can m k?'
at a price .m I of a qu.di V that will enable
s in st ll it in foreign conn ries, aiitl therein;
\vc shall export it. Willi s!k *vo can
vers: the balance of Ira le an 1 br a I
l.iropc in debt to us. Therefore. ?.!: s|lk .
iis-nega tli it now occupies lite n't-ntion of
> many of our enterpi izing eit zens, is no
iin.b ig , nmtnor is ilie ma I ioiuIis specula,
an ? humbug. t*. 0. S.
ruin tliu Plu'adelptna Saturday Evening Po3t.
MILS.
Though little nppe irs to bo sail, during
e universal depression w u- li exHfp
roug'ion tho busmess com minify, on t!?i
ibjec* of the S Ik eul up*, its friends in?y
:s?t assured ill it ir.uefi is doing und more
i contemplation. SoV'Tal ncvtinga of i!v
tends of lb s great cause. Ii ivn becu 'icld
urme tin: present month in t ds ei y/which
avc rcsulicd in the formation of a " N tinny.
I Association fort lie promotion ? f the S.lk
ultuie in t!u; Uu.i'ci ."sseie-," from , whie i
e happiest results aro autu ipa c t. Tin*
usmess of :l o sue ety will he m in.aged hy a
resident, fit'een vice presiden t, tog h r
i h twenty one directors and o In-r ollicers,
ho have been si-lee ed from among th
l ?S( disiinj-inailiod ind vidiials ia I'm uml
i?! d.ir-rcnt st 't"s. Five dollar* roii.stnu e* '
) iiuiiu il, and twenty-five dollars a lie 1
letnUcrship. The finds w ic ? may In alis'-d
.tie to bo evpsndol, un !er die ?tir |
: ion of die Assoc a ion, in the purchase
f cocoons, raw silk, on J nmnufacur d 'a- j
rirs ; and hi securing llie best re is j
.d o In r implements inquired for the siti, j
iM.icss tlironghou tfn* whole process of j
mi'jficturu. An extensive, permanent,'
id free exmbi ion of ml ni tiers r latino to !
e silk business from its mopa-nt to its
rf< ct stages, are among the obj'e:s eon- j
mpluiuJ by the association, with u view of j
rniiihmg s rangers wbo may visit the ci'y.
i well as the public general y, a all nines,
itli an opportunity of exam nine 'or t'lfinlvcs,
as to the actual progress and proha.
e sucoss of this silk cul ur*?. Tne sue it*,
lias already necured some valu ihle spe lens
from t us in iauf ictory of J. W (I l!, I
I ?unt I'l'-as .nt, O no, which are .m >ej? he ;
UK nHrfi?'l .n l iitII.. a..:..i. I
, ...... ... i.u.f.U'l) lliinil 'll IM1S J
i* ti iVu y??i ex i<iiiius 1, no Wi'.lis'.un lm.i Mr. i
/. only emnarlu'd in t 10 e'il?r;>r.se la-t I
>ting. Anion.; .Item are several spoon on-,
f broad. i i *h rilihons, o! various p litem",
rid fully rij'ial, so fur as our judgment go s, |
'any imported. S > p rfect are Iv.s ?rr mgo. i
lont.s, that he is ulr*ndy imuiMi- I to '
uy pattern or figure, however clitfi -iil , an I
l tlu- cours- ol taree or four liodVs have li s
iruigeim nts competed lor transferring
K'ni to lii.s looms, in ivhioh seven |i iri:s ol
fide rdiuons uro wove at 0:10 time, nod at
ie rate of one hundr. d yards per da v.
Itch silk plush lor hat in inn! ic ure* .ml
ther purposes, were among thespecimens,
o.l Mr r: 1.... ? ...
? ... until w.-iu a Hit:) iso,in- i K
olvet v .st, created from in tfrmls ,'nat last
l>rin<? vv- ro in the bud?his gnu!* };;lv?*
dually l??'rn manufacture I or produce.!
pom llio mo. us inulieauhs set ? ut I .st
priii". Mr. (i. W. Ash, of tins city, also
xlnlntc.l :t? tie meeting f>n I'ue.sd <y > \rn
ig, silk of a beautiful soft, rich and flossy
ppcarmco and of very superior qu t ?tv '?
ie value of it portion 01 which wis op-ail}
nhmired Iroin the fact of its hiving hi en
eled from perforated ocootis.
This association, wliieu is to < ss -nii.il.
N it ion a I in its chnracl-r, o:?j c\s and op.
ration is d? stuie?l t?fpro?e a iios: v dua .)
nd important auxiliary n the promo ion of
ir S.lU rnlnifu ? ? i'1'- 1 11
.. W,,|? w<ai i Ml U III II lf> ?,u i I I . I y* illll] i I I I \\i|l>
Mr I an iti'T' st in tin! mutter, siiould hasten
i forward their name* as members. wh r ?
an be done, we si'|ii)ose, taroje i tle? mud.
im of iilier of tin lol!'i/n<i? v 11'!< ecu,
we rtr-' informed, li?ve been hrtc.l
[Tiots of tl?e assort i.ion, viz N' c <>'a-i
(idle, Ksq. President, John II. Wilts
Treasurer; Mr. N. S ii;ent, 1 irr>r<Jiiier
Secretary; Mr. J<dm C'iurk, C r-j
tipondui^; Secretary Of tin- Vi e Pi? si
ruts wo ar* only able to mention 'bo names
P. S. Dupoiiccnu. tho Hon. (?. B. Wall.
"Now Jersey; Hon. VVm. C. it ves of
irgniu ; Calvin Blytho, Esq.; Jonathan
rb.Tts, and others of Pennsyiv ni?.
Othor nations, far less favourably situa.
ted than n large portion of our own has
proved itself to be, are successfully udvuti.
cing in ibis business, us wilnoss tbu following
extract.
" Tuo cultivation of Sill: in Prus.
sia is yearly increasing, notwithstanding
tin* frosts which destroy every winter, a
considerable number of mulberry trees. In
the neighborhood of Potsdam t her* are now
27r} plantations of that tree. Last year's
crno exceeded 13,000 lbs. of Silk of un excollent
quality, which sold at the rate of 30f
to 37f per ponnd."
11 kr?* is what Prussia has dono and yet,
al hough largo portions of our soil and ch?
intue are sut-sfuctordy ascertained to he lullv |
equal to tho bus' portion ef China, wo still
find ignorance and narrow inindness striving
to excite prejudice and distrust on this
most important topic. We bcholJ France
standing hi pro id defiance 011 her immense
trensur s ot solid specie, the fruits of Iter
Silk prodti<??( while Knjrlind is drained of
tier last d ?llar,?and America is suflcring
f o n importing every tiling, and exporting
comparatively nothing. Ilu every indicaflOII
l.ivnr tlili* tutu/. :mJ tin* StilL rnltiirn is
mos: usstfTe lly destined to achieve ? glorious
triumph in sji to of temporary IcpresR- j
toils or opposition of the dogs in tin; manger*
PHILOSOPHY OF AUVCUTISING.
A la'e number of (J.lumbers* Edinburgh
Journal cmi'iins a very inferos im? article
on the .subject of udviiising in the public
papers, bv nil "Oil Tr desman." His
i.leas on t'i" subj vt are certainly worth |!ie
mention of till aIi i ar- anxious lor bustle ss,
and aro simply an I bra fly as follows :?
firs utility offrqu- c.t an I r-gulir a'lv rttsuii?
<s llus tlit'fO is at all times a large
class of iH'istins, boilt i i count.y mi I town,
wlto have no lixed places tor tbc purchase
of curiam necessary articles, uii'l are ready
to be HWiiyd and tow ir Is tiny particular
pi ?co winch is oonstun'y brought under
their view. Ind.lF rent to all, they yield
wittiou' liesitation to the first who asks.
Then, in the country, a consider ?b|e number
ol persons, who wish a supply of them,
iiaiurdly oj? n a t'o.nrmnicu iou wt h lu i:
addrt*is, xvliiCti, pPi'liaps, lends to muoh u!.
I'TUir business-.. Ihjonle in the are country
also li iblu to be ftvorablv impressed by tbc
frequ lit sight,of the name in the newspaper.
The advortisin pu.yaequi e.s d stiliefio.i
1:1 Ibeir eyes, an I Inisth v arc led, 111 mule.
ing a choice, to pr -f r til r. U it ny far im
mos' important elfoci *.?f advertising is one
of an indirect n lure, t .at conveys tie im
presiioo thai die parly?pretending or no
pretending, quieUisli or not quaeUia't? s
mxious l??r business. One who is anxious lor
business, is unavoidably suppose 1 to be
industrious, at cn'ive, ?>.x 1] does every thing
hi tie iieates au i mos' trad sm in I Ue in in
WUT, and 111 general uses o.ery e.xpedie it n
so&ibfv ami at net his cos onie s. I'eoplr
".course iiko to purchase un Icr tlic.se c:r
c,um start cos, tiic s\s ton of :i-fv? rt sin,* assunn?
!11'* ti tli.it <m It cir.ai.ti> ane.es ex st at j
this p irttrui tr viop, th?n select it u? ?m;iJ nrf
Iv. Such arc the opinions ol t'.ic <>!<I trati* smail
n'ludej to, ami tiicy arc certainly supported
l?y fuel lor wlicfvi r h rciiul
tr system of ndver uin?; is pr i' 'isc I, and
110 b ick-draw mo or tinco <| titrable e renins
a nee exist, tt is usu illv s en to b>- a tend <1
' with a const I. rattle share of success too.
(in* Ir.fitr" in the p't.losophy ol t ic suhjeet
I tntiK he enreiutly attemfe.l t?>. A t'nnt ami |
untr qnrrv system :?t* adverti?.io^ ?tono '
succeed itv'tt in proportion. Drink deep j
or no! T11# Pi. nut >? >
- ? ~t"
Siiixi.iy A I.id. |
i?ov ."VIarcv and Senator Tallm trior. ok New
York.?<?ov. M trey in Ins messago to tlio j
L'-jjisi itoro of Now York in lr37, endoraod .
tlin Hub.lroaHory scheme, then recently, reoom. 1
mended to ('uiigreis Sy thu Pro-ideut. It r|>. '
pear* however that lip to * very nb??rt time b??.
lo o the date of til it iu"ds??je, l?ov. M. O*. ;
pressed himself as opposed to the uiossuro J
which thn in -rs suppo. ted, and no Bitixt ic- j
toiy roamin for the change has been puhli?lied.
Too following loiters and introJuction were
published III th'- N iW Yolk pipnt.S -i little he. j
fore tlio late Ctioil .11 tii.it at Jin. Wo copy !
thmn, not ho iniich jm nr. article of news, a? j
lo cxe.npiity tiio .1 grco o! reliance to bo
|,I..Oui 0:1 ilio prof iiSioiiM ofpolnical leader*.
I Mr. Tallmad.:** ti vv 11 be remembered,!
i It.13} r;?;irg"?l on ddF'icnt occasions, tint
! (.invT.ior \1 irey previous to tin; < xtr i ?? ?.
I s ?m of Congo st, in 1h:57. advised bun to
oppose mo Sub- I re ?*ury Scheme, and
'after the extra session, nj>i>rocc<l of his i>ppisition
to it.
To bring In* m it er to un issue between
ilit: partes, we are authorized and requested
to s ty, that eninedi tlely on tie* r< c i.-t ol
t ie Ar^us count mug tie* article above alluilftil
:o, Mr. T illin nlge ftd'ressod to (?ov.
Marry, <n Albany, uns following 1< ttt r,
w!t ?:u a is mailed at l*uun|tkeepsie on the
ltit'a ol O.-tnli- r.
PwUSMKr.r.r-ii:, (> ?. 15, 1S39. j
Sirt: I li i vo stale.1 on ditlerent occas o::s J
ibatprevious to the extra session of C >ugro>K
in 1M37, you n-lvis -d me,at my bouse,
to oppose fie Sub.Tiv.isury S loams il Mr.
V.i i lluTeii it'iouM reeoiiiin-'ii i; ; that uf.
, rrr toe ? s r.i s> anion, on bond of til*' stcaniI
hoot ) o i n;>[?n>V' il of my course i" oppos.
' ii-n a antl i o.i icmivil Mr. V i . Huron's m
J r* *()<mii)' n linn it, mil s ii.l in ton would
not endorse i; m your messn;?.? to tin: i,e?
jp.si ure. i>iit li nj> nions i ulso un lors'.in I
you tni' ly expressed to otht r-O
I wish you to sa\, whether you deny the
! ti iiili oi tin* above .slu.i'ni'jiit, or hli? tii'-r, to
i t:ic* ? rt?? ! in A it v V.'M.of'1 1 1 1
. ?>' i u-tv .i.i imi 7. lor intended a Jei.i
it wi i.
Very reKpoe.lullv,
Yi iir n.'t wrv'f,
N. !' TAM.M.\DGE.
II -n. w.-.: L. Mwrcy.
j To tir.s !i ttrr no ..ja' it has li"i n return
'I liy (inv. M ucy, nill ough inuily two
weeks huve elapsed ;,;nee its receipt liy liim
hi Jjc course in ii'. Mr. Talliiiudgc li'is
waited :!iis l< ngtli of time for the express
purpose of giving Gov. Marcy ample op
| portunity to respond to n"d his refusal to j
answer is considered an admission of its
truth. But Mr. T. Joes not choose to rest .
ti hero. r
At the time lie oddrex.s-d the letter to
Gov. Mu rev the also addressed one to G"n.
Lev. iluhboll. (lis answer is as follows.*
Itiiaca. Oct. 1!> I . 1859.
Dear Sir?I yesterday received your letter
of the 15th inst.
I was it) Now York at the close of the
extra session in 1857, and know ilia: G*>v.
Marcy .was there, and returned soon alt*r.
A few days after his return to Albany, he
told me, at his house, that lie hud return -d
in the hoot with you ; and o then expressed
much gratification at the course pursued
by yourself and the Conservatives in Congross.
He, ut the k imo time, s'rongly nod
openly condemn* d tlio S.ib-Troasiirv
Schema recommended bv Mr. Van Buret),
and express'd his dissatisfaction at the
course of the Washington (ilobe and the
leading Loco Fucos in this .Stat**.
During the extra session and after it, /
had Hov? rul conversations with Gov. IVJarey,
in all of which he cxpresse I the same
views. li s opin oils were frvly nrtde '
known to any of his political friends who j
were near him. I was not then a state officer,
but 1 know that a d.fi'er* rice of opinion :
xia ed between the state officers in ref* r- <
<*nee to the Sub-Treasury Sclr'ine, nod \
Gov. M trey declared to me, that on tli
reception of the sp'-ci tl message he had. in
presence of several of the statu officers,
openly expressed his disapprobation of 'h
I'icsident's r? commcndanuii. Tics" things
were no* secie's. Tney were knewu to
)undr*'ds hi the party, wlio then b* hevd
t' 11 if Gov \1 irey sh*?u!d come on* in his
mess ige, and tak?* the grounds he I) id t ik? u
in Ins conversations, h ' woul 1 be sustained
by tfie great body of the people of this
State.
Since yaar political consistency and integrity
h ivo b".*u c tiled hi question, for
suppor in<r, in 1S58 and 185'j. the m *m.
uri's uInch Gov. M,irev anil many lending
members of iln? parly openly suppor'ed
with you >n I8J7, 1 hav ilt-in -d it m? da'C.
on two Occasions, wher: \ on were present, |
to st ite verb illy, the substance c?f t'us I t.
ler,?I refer to the recent Conservative j
S at" Convention at Syracuse, an I the |
Conservative County Co.iv< n: on ul ih . > J
place.
Very r- speetfuliy,
^ our ob'i s'T*
LEVI : IMHEL.
lion. M 1*. Tam.maiju1:.
lien. II bh li was the la'e \ Ijntan'
C"o"ral oi .his iSu'.e?app >i it, d b. Gov
M.ircy.
T HE hi am: |f>\ \Y a u .
From the ijvi ir r f ont v h c the follow
if.g ur i< I routes, we prc-unie h >t en ire
ei'Htieo may be p! eAid upon its s'.atu?
of nis :
From th* Army and N*vy Cl.r nicl<\ Oi l. 31.
Florida War.? I n kc?*ou for active
ot?, raiioi.* having le'urned, an I the pub! e
mi'.d, in t ?c Army as \vt l! as out ofi , i?e
ing so:n wfuit agtated t>v the eontr.id.etorv .
nature of the re-ntr s m cuculaton, we have
mad,i iu(|tury that we mia; ?: inform ou
readers what tn< asu-vs vviro cut) cuijilulf J.
in the uppioam campaign.
(Jen. Taylor, t>\ the zc dons rind in llig
ni discharge of Ins dutie?, havng given
s itislaetion to ttic l> p.irtivcut, Will e<>n in
tie in command.
Ttir c.oojis now in Ft, rid* nre die thiul
regiment ol .nu lrn, a portion o, the s*
road ,'rap'ous, and tin? fmu, , ^.1 M\<h
' un I aevenih regiments ol infmt'V. 'I* ? I
t'md ar .l.rrv, having l.wn nun h i'uf*-?J,
Will be sent t.? the north, ui??l he rciieVt d*
by tin- firs: ar :;! ry. vdirdi h is bn a r-rru t
till, m d is now full. TliO c?xnpanie? of
the second dragoons t iat ari'.ved at New
York in the sprufg being now full also, w II
return to Florid.i ; and tne n^liii 'iiin o:
infmitrv now .heru wdl rem .in.
It is mti;n<i? d o drive Mm en niv o.:t ol
Mm settlements hy occupying the country
w thin and norm of a line drawn from |*ii;?tkit
to the tno'i'h of ttie ithlarooei ? , meluding
Fort K ng ; thrnce, along ti e w v?
I era co-is', 10 the A ppalachicid > ; an I hv
mi.iintatoing posts as low lowtt as the mo ith
of the Witnl icoocliee. T he inhabit nits
wdl be arnad, and the defence of their firesides
and neighborhoods confided to them,
with Btich assistance from the r- gut.os as I
o c 'saui may cn'.l tor. I lie pus s on tie* I
const it Tarnpa Hay will lie con.inueil, witn |
su'-h others as the Commanding (Jcmcr.M J
may find < xpedient.
Fxperi'Sicti having mourn'ully prov< d the |
mi r.r,*:ieahiht\ ol forcing Mte Indians- from j
th -ir swamps and hammocks, so fainihar to ;
tin in, hut accessible to us. no further at. i
j e.upis will at pre*.-lit he male ; |<> 4ving o |
[ time and the gradual -pond of' the settle, j
I on n * the ucco'iij li tunc lit ot an uhj ct uu- '
| attainable hv arms.
[ 'pi.,. * - - >
> iiu n-juiri s?o extensively crculu'ed ?j! |
!<onfe reu.es UHne-n 'h S * aviary <?l VV'.n j
and Major t-4i.-r.il-. M ?cou?b:uiil i";ir?*
entirely v\ i I;o'j( found it on ; no suHi con. j
h-rnnces luivn been hel l. Ivjua.ly tti fonnil. |
J is taut olwwlinjj srven thousand t.oops
to Florida ; it ail our regulars now nut of
the :m rid try wern taken 'rotn '.heir pr. te m
stadoiiN, they would not amount to the j
uunib'T nam d. The ;N >rtlivrn, Not'.li (
- - * ' - *
aii mi i ir?>iH < r*> Jin* i
as much vpusnl, ami stall 1 as much '
hi n<-i d of defence as docs the T?*rr tory ??f i
Florida. Tticro has he n no ?! >?^a etit-rtaut'
d iirrc'iift.re of s-mi Iu'o ti.e i i^lith In- ,
tntrv in o F.or ?l i, its p;?*s*h?in^ con-!
| sidi red < n I to ;*;? main iiianro of in n
rv o ' - herders of Can* la. Ta?*
to.ir'n nrnllrrv u .i In* .*? i.ti.iird lu>t vrcn (
Fort Niagara ai.il l>ulFalo.
It is hdi v**d I'lii' sonio a I lilioiii) small ?
vi .ss'ls mi!! be built or purchased, ami soul j
I'lffld rein irks wore pro|?ar.*e for the Cliron. J
iclo of O. tobi r 21, hut Kinro lh-*y wv:< wuttrn
information li m been roci ivo I w...eh o ndtia il
innxpodi, at 'o withdraw tl.r l*t ... *i..i*ry ut oto. I
eont from t!i? Canada Frontier. i'iie iti.rn will
therefore r ui on in Florida noti) the o*ig< n?vn
ot tlio h. ru :<! at otkcFpoiiits w.ll allow of its '
being roliovod. I
?? ? -g.
to- iho on 'st of Florida, to prevent deprw- .
datioiiM l>y the Indians upon wrecked ves- '
?nls and their crows.
Connected with lh'' foregoing remark*,
a re;ruspnet of recent events in Florida will
not Im; inappropriate.
Daring the l ist session of Congress an
appropriation of 95.000 was made Wor the
purpose o( holding n treaty with the Semi,
nole Indians." In vtituu of th:s apptoprmtion,
Gem ml Macomb wus son! to Florida;
and, being the Goneral-in.chief of the Army,
it was thought tli it liis rank would have
more weight and influence with the lud-nns
than a civilian CO-dd have. General Ma
cornli held eo -crencis wi ll some of the
chiefs and foully entered into an ugrrcnient
(the*-" was no written treaty) with
Chitto Ti^tenugg'Stlie acknowledged sue.
cesKor 'f Ar-pLucki, or Sam Jones; ('ho
latter, it in understood, lias never held or
exisi'isc l .any military command.but stands
in the light of n counsellor among his ti ibe.)
One of tun stipulations of this agreement
was t/ie establishment of a trading pus!
near the mouth of Synabel river. The
misiion of Col. II/r.nky to carry into cfleel
thu s ipulatiou, the surprise of his parly, the
mass ere of a por ion. and the escape oftl o
rest, are familiar to all. Sam Jones and
a s tribe were at the time in the vicinity
of Fort Lauderdale, distant about ICO
miles, mwl have not only dcrlied all participation
in, or knowledge of the massacre,
but up to tli ? Ia'e>i advices continue to
manifest a ncu r d d sposition am) an int< nturn
to abide by the agreement made with
U ii ril Macomh.
T'u' approacuing campaign, then, will
partake more of a d fensiv than offensive
chirae.ter, as tt wall l>e routined to driving
il>?' Indians from the s'-t led portions ct"
Florida, where they have committed depredations
almost wi limit cheek. It having
hem found impossih'e to force the Indians M
from their f istnc.-scs, any further attempt
to effect that object would only bo attended
Wit i a needless saer (ice i>f life and money.
A MoVlNrt SCKN1-:.
The Ivov'Uvillo |{i!t'or<li'f gives tin: /elI.twrg
d<'s<'i ip'niu of a path-tc seen*,
wh ch r> ton ly occurred at !' r h, Upper
(Jin-d i. The prison-T was indicted for the
mu-t r of hi , son iii I iw; |
i'oihips# vv -should notice that, during J
tin* invov.iu i'ion. th'? willow of the deceas- L
id, wio was at .he sun'-time the daughter
??.' the prisoner, w.is on the p ut of the t'< - ]
fence, hrwoglv m o coin t o la: sworn. H!?:
nppi-u'cJ in mourning?pale, thin. nti".
gre d'seo iijiomvI ; .uid it w;m only wit.i d
.VI ion on fcr p in I hat she could keep U,
? o nposf d enough to h(tmU ; howevtr, II
i,ii*Ini'g vers ma * rial win elicited from he.- >/
I ^ fet luig i tu qiicn ly overciime her, tied "
s!ic huri mi into loud sobs, at one ot which
t inrs s!ic cost her eyes upon he prisoner,
in i sta edit <J ' fulher ! father /* 1 he
court, ul coui*e, <>i ler> d Iter removal ; shim
I to pass It- r fa h?-r, 'o vshotn she rx'on- A I
<lt! I la r hand in (In* mi 1st of M r sobs and i -'m
iihrn-liK ol .father 1 Jather /* The oI?l man,
ii n rs. rt .i lie J out hi-, hand ;o h s wid, .
tl daughter; the hand vs..ich, at the insti.
ga ion of las h art, had been the incti'ii
alike i f her misery and his o.vu ; she re.,
ceiv il it, to. I w.is taken away. The scope
w is tragical, and, tin.ugh, between theso ?
ninth e i uhv:Ju i's, brought lears to mi.iic
.11) eve."
IMPORTANT D.CISIitN? li \BEAS COM'Vs
CASK.
On thc2!s? S?t?'o:nher last, John S l/cy
tv.t < imprisoned tnd?T an affidavit, chary
nil I nn ? t!i tin* or n e of murder. in th *
n . ? f.t M >mSs pp. Ho ohtuiur.' - wa! of ' A
hufu'iii corpito Trot) ?!?? (!.nnine? i.i! (.'oar', ^
<tn his a(I? I..'.it iS.it lie ivii. ' c iv.un : t j
M ssis?.ippt?w.n innocent ( ? ?* cht>r?. ^ jj
an i tint: his r yS'.s as an \ uiorican *i n;
violated.
On the 5th ns'. the case mhh trod I<
appears that H'liceof t!jn arrest uvd dene
lion ha I been tj.ven "o the (iovoMtwr it
M ssissippi, andno answer had ln,e:t rcce.v
ed. It was ura-ij for the pr soner, tie;! r.r.
rharyu had beer.tna !? against him m M.s.
s s>i. pi, nor It ti.he Governor demanded
that he should h ihliveiel tip. That tl*:
("on>: tntion of ttn United States eti'y i'
lows the ai r? st of t per. on already ehar^ed
wi.hu crime in oie s ate, nn<! fleeing ?u' another.
That lawns dej rived ofhisri^V.t
r. i . .
ui iniii, Alien I.?* J m ill V I. Tint there
was no law utitliorai.!^ his detention. That
lit; sin u!d ' i! dischar^i il.
Tins A'toni'-y Cenera! stated, tl at ;Ve **
practice in such cata:* always h:.d b-vn, for
the 11 cnrdcr o inform tlv?- (Jovemor ot I he v>.
State where the crime is charged to have
Ifcu Commi tc I, of the proceedings, an!
aficr wai ino a reasonable time, without ??r?
.iimot and a demand, to discharge the
or soner from custody, lie buhn it:* ) the
case to the Court.
I lis honor Jiiilac Wa!!i, i:i r< r> indiro
the prisoner in n rust ?ly, ohs* tn that tl.?
stales oivc re Muni (lute's to each other he
14 !'-s :hose pia M iihi d hi h l'onstit;.t '?n
that t 'c arrest of | eisuns in eases hke the
present, he considered one of those du'ie.s.
He roiiiiJereJ [hit suMicieiit i ne hut not
- lapsed to hear 1'iot.n the (*ov? rtlor of Jliu
s hs ppi, and uft r such siiii" should lapse,
the Court would, on a; pi cation, or !er the
prisoner to be disi:!inr;p d hum cusl; dv.
N. Oilcans Hull. tin.
SUKUK At- ?TKK A'l ION.
Tliii riiflM'tw 4.ii?itii,,il 1
. ... , .. -M.^r ... wj v? V Ui? f I S.lji.
pIviMj. 'tic !os-? of a Dos'* was pcrfi.rrio ! u*.
\ 11??r.v last wis U t*) Prof Sior M ireti, ? ' *
the Mr.lioul ('otU'itf, w :!' ,oinp!? to s;iccca?.
In ttiis cic- f'!' pi'irnH nose was vn'.i.*' tv
t?oiv, and Us loss wns stijijili. | t?) drt.u h*
hi ? sufRioi ni stem from I'? f'on-l.ond, If n
i.lif it connected fit'Mvei n t: ? < l.rows, ?*;..!
l r.iioin?? down, rue! into t1 ??
form of :i iius<\ tin- r nv .<n?l l;ici.<>ing ;.urfa<*c!
Iiimiij; ' lns< !v nppl i .1 ?o a similar raw
surface innde upon t e rnargn of the forni'-i
noso, to wli oil s'on is afToeted.
Trie All?..n\ Ar 'i:s adds tliat t!i: p -li of >h
a p'si it ir ol licit r?:v, and sas'ttiiiO'f the J
pai'dul and t? <! <>u* opt ration with signal
lortitndc, nti 1 ut its termination rose from
thn op'-ra'fnjitaM", a".d w <> :n d
1