Historical Newspapers of South Carolina

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IPqjDOfcd to $ortiqultur4,^g|j||^^^JJj|||^|yH^^aolitiqr., and the Current gteics of the $ng. f . ?^^^ ih.?.N.?!l'La?--^,r,or- 1 uifi. nnil ltnrfon ma! l?:- u 1 : , iT. niviMiUiiir? ?XKAN?E STORY. a talk with till outi^tw in tiie heart ok the iiuhir. Dickens C. II., Juno 28?"Tho next trouble I got iuto," continued Redmond. Hook place some time after that one in which Duckworth was killed, and it resulted in uiy capture." "I escaped however," ho added with a laugh of merriment over the recollection. Omitting unny interesting particulars which might bo considered irrelevant, and would cxtcud this letter to a greater length than permissible, 1 commence in the uiiddlo of his story. j THE WUISKEY BUSINESS. A large reward has been offered in North Carolina for his apprcheusion, nod having A United States Court and verv aneerfv rnn. fiction, Itedinond transferred" the scene of his SIMmM IntfT South Carolina, where Jjo drovo a thriving trado almost in the tnidst of tho^ReTPaues," who tried in vain to catch him. "I bought and soiu pulv thc^ best whiskey," he said, "aud could always get $1.50 per gallon for uiy stock where other traders could only command $1.? 'Redmond Whiskey' soon became well known and was sought after by everybody, oven the llovenues. I was always very liboral with my custom ore and have frequently S6t-put a ten-gallon keg for a'treat,'aud **^y?sS^li8ip|? drtak.?veTy drop iu a few hours. floabt that [ have 'treatttT'awhy fhlfy 1,500 gallons in this "*ay siuce I begun. I did not-^liiad treating my friends, bat I did hate to treat a rascal, as I havo often done, though I never said a word.? The fact is," he added, "thcro is very little profit in tho business, and what with losses and captures, and tho risk of arrest and imprisonment a man necessarily runs, it does not pay to follow it. 1 havo not distilled a drop for three years, and have not sold any for over six mouths. HEU.UU.MJ ULTllAYKD. Among others with whoui I used to trade was a man named Van Hendricks. I met him ono day and ho told me that he wanted to buy a quuutity. We finally agreed to meet at a certain house that night, where I was to deliver tho whiskey and receive the mouej. He wanted it on credit, but 1 Could not afford to let him have it, so he promised to coo^tod brjog^tfce qppney^? He wa?to meet i+nsnt 1 o'clock that night, and after dark I drci/ off what he wautcd (I had to ui&ko the faucet out of a sweet potato!) und carried it to an outhouse, where 1 waited for him. Amos Ladd, my wagon driver, was with me, and we kindled a big fire on the hearth and laid down to sleep. About half-past 12 Hendricks and Januison came in, aud 1 drew a pint bottle full and 'treated' them both. 1 then laid down again with my coat and boots off aud wo oomuicuced talking. I had my pistols by me, one in sight and ono under my pillow, and Hendricks asked me to let him sco what kind I used. Ho picked up one and examined it and then asked me to let him sco the other. This made mo suspicious, and I replied chat I never allowed any man ? to handle all iny weapons at ono time. THE CAPTURE. Just then a crowd of men, who had been wnitincr nnfsifto KiimI. nnan ito <!? ? ? "' q ? ? ? vr |/wu DUV UVUt UUU rushed iu on me and surrounded me.? There was a big light iu the fireplace, and I saw a dozen guns WQro cocked and pointed right at me. Tbsy wcro hollering, "Surreuder 1 Surrender 1" as fast as they could, and Autos Ladd said, "I surrender." < I said nothing, and turned over to get my pistol Jrom under tny pillow, and saw thai Hendricks hud run around behind me and had mv own pistol within a few inches of Uiy head. Several of tbein jumped upon oio at once, and held uie down and pinioned toy arms, and then they turned mo over on 9 my back and Burtou and Gary tied my wrists close together. It was all dono in a moment, but when they jumped on me, I thought to myself, 'if there wero only two of you, how quick I could turn you uuder.' If 1 had done so, however, (heyvpould have riddled me with buckshot and balls, so I thought I would wait. BRUTAL TREATMENT. When they wero tying me they used n small strong rope, and they pulled mighty hard on it. I had a 'rising' on ono wrist and they hurt mo pretty badly; they broko ^ho rising and ourcd it. Hero is the scar naw Ka aoiri IntirvKInrv Kuf lF V*o/l *A??n Hvn? MV r vw.m my arm off I wouldn't havo Inid a word.? When 1 was tied, Barton asked ine if I was Moj. Redmond? 1 said, yes! Ho said, 'Yes, G?d d?a you, you aro tho man who wanted to kill me.' I replied, *1 havo not wanted to kill you ; I could easily have done so if I had wanted.' He ordered me to get up, but pulled so hard on the end of tho rope he had me tied with that I couldn't get up. It is no easy thing to rise when 1 1_ ___ __ t i- - ? you nre on jour dbok wun jour nanas uea. I tried to do so, but couldn't get up quick enough to pleaso him, end then," said the outlaw, his eyes flashing at the recollection of the indignity, "then he kicked at me, his boot grazing my side 1 If he had kicked me squarely he wond have hurt me, though I don't think he rould have hnrt me much, that night, whatever lie did, but that was enough. 1 felt like I w?h as strong ns three men, and sprang up I don't know how. I kept qnict, however, and they held r . k a s. >uu 1110 iiuuu iuiu my pocKCl and took out my pocketbook. 1 had one hundred and eighty-six dollars. Ilo asked me if i't was mine '( I said 'yes, put it back iu my pocket, you liavo no right to take my moucy. He said you have no right to it,' and kept it. 1 thcu said, 'Look here, I waut my boots.' A DASII FOR FREEDOM. Barton dropped the end of the rope he had been holding and started past me to get the boots which wcro by my pallet. I was mad because he had kicked ins, and felt as tall as if I wero three feet above the flotr. I turned my hands iu the rope and 'whopped' uiy urms into Gary'a breast and knocked him down. 1 knocked Moore down in tho sau?e w*J ou tlu other aid$4 tho Dthers ' ffWfnitf standing two-deop between me and the door. I kicked at Charley White, who gave way ; tho rest scattered, and I jumped out of the door liko L had beco excused.? My wagon was in front of the door, fortunately; so I ran around it, gathcriug up ns *1 ran the rope with which I was tied to -liClJ? it from tripping me, (I knew they would catch mo if 1 fell.) They dashed out after mo. Bang! bang! went their guns. The balls struck all around mo and knocked up tho snow. I hoard one of them say, 'By G?d, I know wc havo killed him;' but I know they hadn't, and kept on. I was still tiod so tight 1 couldn't get loose, though 1 kept tugging at the rope ns I ran. T nad one pistol iu my pocket, aud twisted my hand* round and got it out, but dropped it in jumping a big chesnut log. FIRST CATCII YOUR. HARE. VtaflMMIlMAfcd&n the way, boil went over it without any trouble. I thiuk I flew over, I got over so easily. Tho officers turned back ; they woro afraid to follow mo very far, and then I stopped and untied tho rope with my teeth, and know I was safe. The snow was thick on the ground, and I was without hat or coat aud in my stocking feet. I knew they had my pistols, but as they had Amos, too, I determined to rescue him or dm^f'tlibught they wouldn't stay long about there after I was loose, so I ran accross the fields iu my stocking feet to a neighbor's bouse. I won't tell his name ; but when I got there the soles of my stockings were cut to pieces by the ice, and tho legs were clinging around my ankles. I knocked and ho let me in, and I told him those 'hell-fired devils' had captured me and my driver, and I intended to tako hitn away from them. He gave mo a hat and a coat and shoes, nud a gun and ammunition. 1 tl^awenl back to the load which I knew tWy would have to travel, and waited for them. I heard theni getting ready to start with Amos, and all were talking and shouting together. They had captured a highstrung blaok mare of mine, and when they hitched her to the wagon to start one of them whinned her. nml ?h? Koiron L!?.L ri I "VB"" *" """ things to pieces generally. Barton was anxious to get away, so Amos told me afterwards, and stood by with his gun oimtflgHlt' every noise he hoard in tho bushes. They got started finally ; tho bay mare did all the pulling, as the black was mad ; and I heard them coming yp the road. AmoHtn crying ; he was nothing but u boy, then, and I can't tell you how 1 felt. ATTEMPTED RESCUE OF AM08 LADD. I just seemed to swell, I felt so big; but I couldn't help from crying myself. I knew my own wagon by the black mare, which I could see against the snow bank. Their's was a ono-horse-jConcern and was in 'ront, and just as soSHTtf H Wsoso within reach ^ levelled my gun and 6red1 t heard some j one holler, 'Run! run! run!' and heard I lJartou say, 'What'sthe matter?' I thought j to myself, you wait a minute and I will show you what's the matter. Then some one in tho fivrPiriAQt vnrinn firo/1 of ***** ?I* >**** . UII^VU Ml V?\4 nv MIU VTfXJ UI bUlCC times and they ull fell out oi the wngoa, and as they raa up the snow bank into the bushes I fired again. My gun wns loaded with buckshot, and when I heard sonio one groaning and I thought 'I have got meat this time.' I shot six moro times, but the banks were so high that I over-shot them and didn't get anybody. CI1ARLBY WHITE'S TERROR. Onoof them, Charley White had caught a shot in his thigh, and as Amos who was thon dodging behind the barrels /old me afterwards, tried his best to got under pynto Autos for protection. Amos -told nim *to uuK uuu mku ma oijuro j aiiu no repucu, 'I have got my shnro already.' " To do him justice, I may say here that the "Major" did not seem to think that, under all the circumstances, thero was anything particularly wrong in his single-handed attack upon the dozen Revenues. He certainly enjoyed telling how hard poor Charloy White had tried to crawl into Amos, and how his faithftil blaek mare had "fanned timbor" with her indignant heola. The officers took Amoe into their midst and drove off rapidly, and Redmond ceased firing for fear of killing his firiend. AWAITING ANOTHER CHANCE. "I hadn't got Amos oat yet," he continued, "so as they drove on I ran on down the fence by their side until they got to the next house, (Mr. Pepper's,) whioh was not . far off, and then I heard them holler . 'whoa!' and call for old man Pepper. Mr. ; Pepper started to bring out a light, but > Barton ordered him not to bring it there. 1 I was standing a few feet from him in the darkness watching for a chnuce to reacuo Amos, but could not tell him from the others, lie had uuticd himself iu tho wagon, however, w%Vlc wo were fighting, and suddenly I hcartf some one hollct, 'HoV gone I he's gone I" 4ttd then several shots were fired ; but I knew that ho hud cot off safely. 1 then thought I would rfish in and cut the traces nud recapture niy lorses, but thought they might hit mo, so ) stood still. They all went into the honsoi and I went off and whistled for Aniqs, WBo came to me nnd told me I hnd wound~?*Barton ! and Hendricks. Wo went back together ! to watch the house, nnd I looked through the window and saw thein nil sitting before the fire. I could have killed Bartav or any of tben)?.thpy were not ton > fee V Troui ino ; but I wouldn't shoot any ouo adwtj io another man's house. THE WAY TIIE REVENUES RUN. The ucxt morning I saw them again in the road in tho ono horse wagon and wanted to shoot Jannison, but Amos begged me not to do it, and I wouldn't. Presently tho others came *long and Gary was riding on my horse by the side of Dr. Earlo who had been nttendiug the wounded. It made mo mad to seo him on my own horse, alter all that had happenod, but I wouldn't shoot at liiui for fear of wounding Earle, who was between us. Gary had gotten him to rido by him. At last I saw Earlo go a little ahead, and I saw my chance and fired at Gary and hit him. Earle hcjpcd hiui back on uiy horse, and then I ndvr.r saw men j run so in my life. I thought I would stop them so I shot my own hprau>..-fr?> commenced staggering, bat he was "gamo and kept goiug, and I followed Q|L?ftcr them as fast as they and 1 could ruqa^^k^OKWied a creek and all stopped and uaayMloitaed back to me : 'Como over heto Spd 3,-will kill you.' I had only my putpl, Jhg? I started towards him. I had to croatf VSe creek on a small log, aud loaded as f fMt. Jde-. fore I could got across" they fKBimauccd runuiug again, and I called out'^>. them to 'wait sad I would kill every on<f ^thein.' 'That is the way you do,' I said, 'you steal all a mar has, aud then run !' I then Mwped and went back. Garj had dropped IrtW-hilf in tlin rnnd nn.l T 1 ? - ... VUU, uuu A IVUUU IU UUU IUIU it all to pieces. lie had my overcoat, a shawl I had paid twenty-eight dollars for, and also my hat and boots and a fine dress coat. They gave the hat aud boots and coat to negroes liviug on the I heard of it and gavo out word that^wotehlkill them all if they didn't bring them back. They brought them that same niglft, and I fouud them hanging on tho wagon next morning. The revenue officers carried off* my shawl and overcoat and kept them for their own use." (It was attempting to cover this stolen property that Judge Mackey issued a bench warrant for him for committing hlchwav robberv.1 A MOONSIIINKit's RAID. "The next day/, continued Redmond, "I soot word to Barton that if ho would return joy horses end money and- have my wagon mended, I would eall all square between us and bo dono with it. Ifo refused to do it, so a few days latter I raised a company of about twelve men ftrom??Creek, and went to call on him. Wo rode all that night. It was very dark and Kjk missed the way, and I rodo into a cut in the railroad. It was very deep, aud I had a hard fall. My horse foil on mo nnd knocked my leg out of joint. I thought it was broken it hurt so, but I called to tho boys to halt or lliey would ride in too. Ono of them ?wa? to ?io?o that as ho wheeled his horse's hin'd legs slipped over tTje^dgeTPHlftliririr ,1lr* T i .1 e vtn? uv/itii vu uiu. x iicuiu unt: Ul nu'lli say, 'II i is killed, lot's go back home.' 1 found my horso was not hurt much, so I got on him and rodo down the truck until I could get out, and went back to thorn.? My leg was hurting very j*tdly, so I called one ot the boys to mo afcd-told hitn to catch hold and pull as hard as he could. He did so, and my leg slipped back witli a pop which I thought could have been heard a hundred yards off. I did not say anything about it. We had no light exe&pt matches, and burnnd about five hoxos of them in trying to find our way. Wo got to Kaslcy Station that night, and somo of the boys wanted to go ou at once to Barton's house. NO ROBIiKR OR IIOR8E TI1IKP. I said no, let us wait until day and go like men; I am no robber or horso thief, and what I do I propose to do by daylight. ' They go nt like dogs?don't let us do like them!' We stayed nt the station until daylight, and a man asked me where I was going. I replied, 'bird hunting V That was what ifmeQcera had said when thoy started afag jjki.^.1 got some hnimonUion at Easley'xiod We started down the road. One of the boy* tried to prime hi* old flint and ateel rifle as he galloped alorih, and he left a black trail of powder fbr half amile 1' TUB RAID ON BARTON'8 When we got ffeirly to Karon's house wo saw a negro tun in, and as wa closed around tho houso I saw Barton stoal out and crawl under it. Mrs. Barton came out wringing her hands and screaming, but T told her not to be alarmed as I didn't want to hurt anybody. 1 asked where her husband was and sho said he was in Greenville. 1 told her he was under tho house and asked ber to call him out. She said I had come to kill him, bat I told her no, T only came t r: . Jtj/t ? ' t1 to get my horseiRtfnd m^ncy, 8h< asked if I would give uW my hand ori that! I did so and she called Barton, who cauic crawling out on his hands and knees. It had been raining and he was very inuddy [ he c*mo forward arm in arm with his wife and enid to me, 'Redmond, I know you have come to kill uic, and 1 want to die riehl here at homo with my wife., I told hiui that I only came for my property?my hor 8cs and wagon?and lie replied that they were in Greenville, but that he would gc there and get them, or 1 could send one ol the boys tor them. 1 told him I hadn't couio for auy foolishness, and would have them or his hide I ; REDMONl) DEMANDS HIS OWN. lie asked for a chair and started off tc get one, but I ordered hitn to stand where he was. lie then asked for a dry pair ol socks, and 1 let him send and get them.? I then told him 1 wanted my money, llo asked mo how much it was. I said you know how much you stole from me?go and get it. (It was 818(5.) lie said 1 have a check on tho bau& for 8100. You can have that; it is all the money I have, and you ?? ? I T <1 T 1 vmu iuivu lu^ iiurdus. 1 sam l aon t want your horses. 1 want tny own, and I won't have your check. You took money froui mc ; pay it back and I will go lie offered to send Mrs. Barton to Kasloy to get tho money, and I said ull right. He then said I could go to his stable and take his horses. I replied that I was no horse thief, and did uot propose to go near his stable; he could go and briug thcui to mc in the presence of those witnesses, if he desired to pay mo for what he had tnken froui mc wrougfully.? He took two negroes with him, and I told them not to touch tbo horses. He brought them out, and all who saw them said that neither of them was as good as mine, but it *as tho lust chance, so I took them. He called a man who lived near him to witness that ho gave np the horses freely, as I had told him that I wonld't take them on any othor terms. I told him lie had to pay Amos also six dollars he had taken from him the night of our capture, and he said he had no money to pay him with. Mrs. Barton said there was sotno loose silver in the house, and went to get it, and counted out live dollars and gave it to Amos, lie had lost his wages in my service, so I paid him the remaining dollar afterwards out of my own pocket. .Barton then brought out a jug of whiskey and.offered to treat the crowd.? Both Mr. and Mrs. Barton drank a little t? #!...? :c ii ?J ? oiiuw vnub 11 nus an n^iifc, ana ono or two 01 the boys drank with them. I could not driuk his whiskey after all that had passed between us, but I had somo of my own, and the rest of boys drank it with me. TilK VISIT TO EASl.EY'S. Mrs. Barton then went on to Easlcy's station with us, and sho aud I talked together all the way. She is a good woman, and I was never so sorry for anv one in my life as I was for her. She said they were broken up completely, andk^Lnothing; to live on or to work with.-' to Eas ley's she had the cjbeot o^te^ ww'k^ve'V?> uuu uuuuivu uwrwp. * UtK? UWO WIIUMUJJ of what sho told ino on the road, so I told her never uiiud about iht eighty-six dollars; sho might have that. It was not the money that I had cared for, I onty didn't waqt to be robbed and abused. A prowd had collected at the station by this time, otetl she was afraid to go homo by herself. 1 sent one of tny friends to keep her company, and told her to keep the horse to help make bread for her and her children. She did not want to take it, us she said I would come ? *4. 1 tolJ li4tr that MrfWid not, but that I didn't want to hear of him on any more raids. She was satisfied and went off. A KIND INVITATION. I bought five gallons of whiskey at Easley's Station, and treated the whole crowd that had collected there. It looked like a regiment, uud 1 didn't know there were hall that number of uicn at the station. While they were drinking I saw Moore, oueof the men who had helped to capture me,standing at a corner, and some opo asked mo to treat him too. I called to him and invited him to joiu us. I said 'Uello, Lieutenant, come up and take a drink with me.' He said he wouldn't come, and I told him I would bring him, and turned my horso to go after him. He 6aid, 'All right, I will come.' I said, I paid my own money for this whiskey, it is not stolen, come and drink with mo.? He refused again but I made him take twe drinks. Amos Ladd said to him, 'You were the man who tied mo. Do you remeuibui uhflt. vnn Gfllfl ukftn ..nit Ji/1 2* V' ^f ?.... ?w?. n mvu jruw uiu iv ; luuim said, No, 1 don't remember.' Amos replied 'Yon said to me you have got the best mm bold of you you ever saw, and yet you wen tho first to run !' This turned the laugh 01 Moore, and soon after we rodo off. Bartoi went on one raid after ibis; Moore neve went oq another." tiik record letter. Pickens C. II., Juue 29.?Rcdmond'i second and last raid was uiado against hit own wishes, was contrary to his judgment and, as he declares, is the only thing hehni done for which ho condemns himftclf. Th( circumstances under which hn told his brie story ooncorning it deserve to he montione< for many reasons which will presently np pear. ?j * AN U*BXEECTE1> SENSATION. ' * -At the close of our first interview, on j Tuesday afternoon, he accompanied my comi pnnion and myself to the foot of the moun- m ; lain, Before we had reached that point, ^ i however, and while we were sauutering ; quietly along the "trail," wo were suddeuly saluted with the summons "Halt and suri render! I aut a rcvcuuo officer," which pro cccd from the. bushes on our light. At tho r same uiouicnt the sound of horses' feet was > heard in the road in our front, and for si l" moment I thought I was about to have an ; cxpcricuco 1 had not bnrgnincd for. Tho t voice was that ol one friend, however, and ,i.? .. ~u:_i * ? uv uuicu nuivu <jui ck iy came into sight was bestrode by another, wherefore 1 was spared , any further sensation than the numcrouH , unpleasant ones I had just felt in my mind [ in view of an anticipated skirmish. The newcomers brought the information that a squad of thirteen ".Revenues'' had just passed down the road, a mile or two distant, with a prisoner, a friend of ^Redmond's in charge; that they were in "search of Redmond hiuisclf. and that they had divided for the purpose of "beating up" tho neighborhood. Some of them might be expected any moment at the house nearest to us, (where 1 had left my buggy,) they said, and it was advisable for us to keep a sharp lookout. A sharp lookout was accordingly kept, but Redmond accompanied us to the nouse nnu remained with us, and night had set in before ho left us, and returned, by another route than that by which we had come, to the mountnin. -J^wns c^uite ill by t^? time, in to the hot sun, and of'tne unwonted and excessive exercise I had undergone iu climbing, but after supper I started again to find hiui. WHO CAN STAND THIS SORT OP LIFE ? It was so dark under the trees and in the hollow of the hills that I could not sec my hand held within an inch of my face. My guides seemed to know the way hy instinct, however, aud one of thcin taking my arm they led me by a devious path which seemed endless, and only to lead into deeper and deeper darkucss until wo came to the appointed rendezvous. Here one struck a match aud lighted a small hand-lamp, and I learned for the first time that Redmond had joined us somewhere on the way. Wo found scats on the eround or on r,u.to ?.wi e v" * vvno *(UU roots of trees as best wa might, and sat in silence around the flickering light while {atsflwMa %& of coffee at tho risk of my neck, but ho ,:uevcr drank coffee," ho said. Meat there was in abundance, but lie barely tasted it. "It was very seldom that he ever touched it." He appeared very thoughtful and spoko but once or twice during the repast. Once he said to mc, "Who can stand this sort of life ? It is cuougli to drive an innocent man to do wrong." THE >CENE WAS IMPRESSIVE and gloouiy enough. We sat within a narrow circle of dim light, hedged iu by a thick darkness that might have concealed up huntUeA u??n?e? within as mnny feet 1 Trhm tnolamp. Tho trees seemed to bo whispering seorcts to each other or warn' ing* to us, and the leaves.looked strangely ~j w.v? ??v iiguii iiuui iuoir uoaer sides. The air was heavy and oppressive, I mmd seemed fraught with danger, and wo looked in each other's faces with feelings not unlike what wo might hnve experienced had all instead of one only been under ban and expecting betrayal and a death-dealing volley out of tho night at any moment! It could not have been worse had we been on the froutier and surrounded by hostile Indians. Nor Were Cheee Seeling* ono?oe?l to that little group out there in the forest.? It was shared in kind by every household for miles around us. One of our party said : ''There is not one man in ten in this neighborhood, be be guilty or innocent, who will slftim in hiii hnnort In > ?-l-* '? " 4 - J j, ... ...M ..r/UOW IV?- II I I 0 i A U Ik . you say truc,,; echoed every voice but mine, within his henring. I, too, learned its i truth in part before many hours had passed. I TliE RAID AFTER OAKY. ! I reminded Redmond of my errand, and ; his promise to tell me of his "raid" after Gary. "It was not my doing," he said.? 1 "I did not lead the party, and at first refused to go with them. They said they ' had gone with mo when I needed them, and now I refused to help them when they uccdcd mo. So I wcut. Gaiy had broi ken up a still and behaved badly, and tho ' man the still belonged to collected the crowd ' and went to thrash him. 1 said to them, ! 'He hns done nothing to be killed for? " this thing of killing a man won't do ; but I 3 will go with you, if you wish me, to get > satisfaction for cutting up the still.' They 1 said thev did not intend tn till l.im 9 only to 'put tho witho on him/ (i. o., whip 1 hint.) This was distinctly understood be1 fore we rtartcd. We did not chase any r revovie officers, but wont directly to Gary's house at Libortjt! Ire was not tbero, and wo returned home. We started one Monday afternoon about 1 o'clock and camo 5 back through Pickens Courthouse by 10 9 o'clock next morning. Thcro would not > have been anything said about this raid but 9 for what was dono nt Ilendrick's house.? 9 He was a brother of 'Van,' and tho boya * hearing that tbe overcoat and shawl which ' * they had atolen from mo were in the house, - determined to take them away. I (coiiTMrKh surr wit*.]