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J THE LEXIXGTOX DISPATCH.
VOL. XXIV- LEXINGTON, S. (., WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 1!), 1804. NO. 44.
BOODLE HUNTERS. j
THAT IS ABOUT WHAT THE GRANO
ARMY OF THE REPUBLIC IS.
They Complain About the Hard Requirements,
and Criticise Congress and the
Sonth for their Attitude on the Pension
Question.
Pittsburg, Pa., Sept. 12 ?The delegates
to the National Encampment of
the G. A. R. got down to a solid business
basis this morning. While 200,000
rx?THjr?ne haw loft the CltV SinCS the l&St
old soldier passed ia review yesterday,
there are still 200,000 strangers in towD,
a majority of whom will stay until Saturday
and Sunday, while some remain
even longer. The national encampment
ODened this morning in the new
Grand Opera House. The commanderin-chief
and delegates were welcomed
on behalf of the Citizens Executive
Board by Chairman Daniel C. Ripley
and, also, by W. C. Quinoy, chairman
of the committee on invitations and
reception. Governor Patterson welcomed
them on behalf of the State of
Pennsylvania, while Mayor McKenna
of Pittsburg and Mayor Kennedy of
Allegheny performed the same pleasant
duty on behalf of their respective
cities.
The serious business of the encampment
proper then began. The election
for Commander-in-Chief wiil not be
I held until tomorrow. Since the withdrawal
of Judge Chas. D. Long of
Michigan, the opinion is rapidiy growing
that Col. T. X. Walker of Indiana
willj secure the coveted honor. The
selection of the next encampment city
has also been deferred until tomorrow.
While surface Indications are that
Louisville will have a walk oyer, it is
hinted that St. Paul has been doiDg
irood work in a quiet but very effective
way.
"The claims of Louisville for the location
of the G. A. R. encampment of
1895 were presented to the national
convention b7 Henry Watterson this
this morning. Just as soon as welcoming
addresses were concluded a motion
to suspend the rules and give an audience
to the Kentucky orator was adopted
with enthusiasm. He received a
cordial reception. The speaker retired
amid a storm of applause. Then the
doors were closed and the encampment
went into secret session to hear the address
ot Commander-in-Chief Adams
and associate national officers. Ia the
presentation of Watterson at the openk
mg session,the supporters of Louisville
| stole a big march on St. Haul and the
I advocates of the latter are considerably
\ - disgruntled. Heretofore it has been
the practice to defer nomination of the
next encampment to the second or i
closing day of the convention.
When Henry Watterson was introduced
to present the plea of Louisville
for the next encampment, th6 silvertongued
escort of the 4\Star Eyed God- <
dess" was m his best mood. Among
his audience, from pit to gallery, laughter
alternated with applause and when
in a pathetic moment, he allowed a
few tears to course down his cheeks, '
there was a lachrymose response that
would have been appropriate to a fun- ;
eral. Before his preparation had been 1
reached, the success of the leading city :
of the Blue Grass State was sscured, ,
and the orator retired amid such an
ovation as a national encampment has .
rarely bestowed even upon one of its
favoiite sons. i
Close attention was paid by the delegates
to the report of the Commander- i
in-Chi6f and irequent references that
it contained to tbe attitude of the Congress
and of the people of the South
toward Union Soldiers and patriotic
movements originating in the Aorin
were heartily applauded. s
When the report of the committee on
pensions was read, cheers punctuated
every paragraph. It was signed by
comrades H. ?1. Taintor, A. M. Waener
and J. X. Walker, cnairman, and
reads as follows: i
44Yc tr committee would respectfully
reiterate the sentiments and renew the
recommendations touching the rights i
of the Union veteran and the duties of
the government towards him, embod- i
ied in our report submilitd to the
twenty-seventh national encampment.
After the adoption of that report by
the national eacamptnent there was a
change in the action of the Tension i
Department in its rules for the suspension
of the pajm?nt without hearing,
and many of those whose pension had
been suspended under that unfair rule
have been restored to the rolls. Your
committee is, however, of the opinion
that there is still just cause for com
plaint in tne tecnnicai rulings ana re- <
quirements of the i'ension Department
which work unfavorable to the appii- i
cant and result in UDjust discrimination
against his interests that doubts
areuaiustly decided adversely to the
claimant, which under any reasonable i
and liberal construction should have
been decided in his favor.
"Order 229, from the Department of
the Interior Bureau of tensions Issued
June 19,1893, is especially obnoxious as
establishing needltss and hard requirements
In the preparation and forwarding
of testimony in support of claims.
We insist that evidence very often procured
after years of effort and
at great expense of time and
money on the part of the applicant
should not be thrown out
for mere lack of form or want of compliance
with any purely technical or
arbitrary rules and we urge that this
order be so modified as to provide
Haf- oil aT7i/it>nr>fit nr^qpnfpd hf> fsiirlv
examined.
'Your committee feels constrained
to call tbe attention of tbe National
Encampment to tbe fact that a large
part ot the appropriation made by tne
Fifty-second CongrtS3 for the payment
ot pensions for the year ending J une
30, 1894, was unused and turned back
into the Treasury, while hundreds of
thousands ot unadjucated claims remained
peDdiDgm the pension bureau.
At the same time, credit is claimed on
behalf of Congress and the administration
upon the grounds that tte immediate
appropriations have been reduced,
yet it appears the only reduction
has been made by tbe cutting the
appropriations for pension; that
Union soldiers alone feel the effect of
ihe spirit of economy. It is a significant
fact that while a period of seventeen
years elapsed between the endmg
c-f our war with Mexico and the close
of the war of the UnioD,yet the amount
nnnr tTnen/iPii fnrthe nensionins? of
the soldiers of the Mexican war is in-1
creasing, while the amount expended
fcr pensions to Union veterans is diminishing.
We feel compelled to say
that there is evidently on the part of
both the administrative and legislative
departments a feeling of hostility to
our worthy and suffering comrades) the
wards of the nation, who bore the
heats and burden of the battle, a feeling
which certainly should not exist in
a country saved by their devotion.
"While the Grand Army of Republic
ispledgfd to purity in public affairs
and will, therefore, sympathize and cooperate
with any and all proper efforts
at economy, to the end that all public
burdens may be reduced to tbe minimum,
we view with extreme regrets
that ialse economy which shaves and
pares to the quick at the expense of <
honor, justice and patriotism. We insist
upon an .honest, patriotic construction
and administration of existing
pension laws and that every just claim
shall be speedily settled so that whatever
is found due shall be paid while
I the applicant is alive to receive it. We
are conlidert that the loyal sentiments
of the country will condemn a policy
! that attempts to recuperate the public
! treasury at the expense largely of the
slender purses of our disabled heroes,
widows and orphans,"
The adoption of the report was
moved and seconded by a dozen voices
from the body of the house. Commander
Adams waited a moment as
though in expectation of a speech
either in support or dissent. Not a delegate
rose. The motion was put and
the report was adopted with a deafening
shout. Again the order of business
recurred to the location of the
next encampment and the invitation
of St. Paul was presented in eloquent
addresses by ex-Commander-lq-Chief
Judge John P. Rea and Col. J. N.
Davidson, but an overwhelming majority
of the delegates were still under
the spell of the "Star-Eyed Gaddess"
and her old Kentucky home and when
the question was put the vtva voce vote
in lavor of Louisville was so overwhelming
that the opposition instead
of demanding a call of the roll, bowed
acquiescence and gracefully retired
from the field.
The Headlight Dimmed.
Spartanburg, Sept. 12.?This has
been an off day with the Gantt family.
Col. T. Larry Gantt, editor ot the
Headlight, got into a discussion with
two men from the country. These men
said they had always been for Tillman
until the past two weeks.and since they
were convinced that Tillmanism meant
ring rule they would never vote that
ticket again." Gantt told them that
they were d?d traitors. Gantt was
very much under the influence of liquor
and became boisterous. Mart
Floyd was standing near, and told the
men to talk to him (Gantt) wnereupon
Gantt made at him with his fist. Floyd
then administered two stinging blows
on Gantt's head and he fell off tne sidewalk
into the street. Friends interfered,
and it was thought that everything
was over. Half an hour later
Gantt's two grown sons accosted Floyd
at the Windsor Hotel and demanded
satisfaction. Floyd told them they
could get It. Thereupon the elder
Gantt, Jesse, struck him, and the other
Gantt drew a pistol and demanded fair
play. Floyd's brother came in and
grabbed the pistol. The men fought
fima TnHn T?InuH qnH
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Mart succeeded in taking a pistol each
from the Gantts and clubbed them unmercifully
with them. It is feared
that one of the Gantts will lose an eye.
The Floya3 are not hurt, except that
each has a sprained finger.
A CARD.
To the Editor ot the Headlight:
I vish to slate through your columns
that I was alone to blame in the difficulties
that occurred last Tuesday afternoon,and
deeply regret the unfortunate
occurrence. I have seen Mayor
Calvert and assumed entire responsibility
for the disturbance, and asked
that any cases made against other par
ties be dismissed, as I aggravated the
assaults. I also desire to apologize to
those gentlemen whom I offended, hav
ing already seen as many as I could
and tendered a personal apology.
As to the difficulties of my sons, I
have only to say that like the brave
boys they are, they defended their
father, Knowing that h9 was.in the
wrong. For this they have respect of
every true man. Respectfully^
T. L. GANTT.
Carpenter Eicapes Hanslag.
Columbia, S.C., Sept. 12 ?Governor
Tillman this morning commuted the
sentence of William Carpenter, the fa
mous Efgefieid murderer irom aeatn
by hangmg to life imprisonment in the
penitentiary. All remember the fa
mous murder case. The killing of
young Treston Touace by Murrell and
Carpenter, who met him in the public
highway and tilled his body lull of
lead. That was in 1889. Murrell was
captured after an exciting chase by a
posse from Columbia, brought to the
city, bound hand and foot, and finally
tried in Edgefield. He was found
guilty of murder and sentenced by the
presiding Judge to be hanged. Governor
Richardson pardoned him, for reasons
sufficient, and in the face of a petition
upon which was the name of
B, R. Tillman, who was then nothing
more than a private citizen of Edgefield
county.
Did he think then that he would
have to pass upon the sentence of Murrell's
fellow murderer? Carpenter escaped
into Georgia and for several
years lived in the swamps of that State
and eluded arrest. Ilis first arrest and
the trouble Governor Tillman had in
getting him away from Governor Xorchen's
jurisdiction are well remembered.
lie was brought back finally, and
tried m Edgefield, and found guilty of
murder, with recommendation of mercy.
Under such a verdict there was
nothing for the presiding judge to do
but to sentence him to be hanged,
which was done. In such a form the
matter was brought to the Governor's
attention. The affidavit of nine jurors
was submitted in which they stated
that they thought that a recommendation
to mercy would save Carpenter's
life, and it was for that reason that
they found such a verdict. It seems
that after the jury had been out for
some time, the judge sent for the foreman
and asked if the j ury were hesitating
about a matter ot law or fact. The
foremaa said a matter of law, and in
the colloquy which followed the judge
was understood to say that a recommendation
to mercy would save Carpenter's
neck. So such a verdict was
found.under this understanding by the
jury
After Twelve Years.
Columbia, Sept. 12.?Governor Tillman
yesterday granted a pardon to
Pleasant Miller, an old negro, who was
convicted of arson in June, 1882?
twelve years ago?in Abbeville county
end sentenced by Judge Pressley to life
imprisonment in the penitentiary. It
appears tnat the old feilow is innocent
ot the crime for which he has been a
prisoner all these years. Governor
Tillman based hi3 action on an affidavit
duly witnessed, signed by F. W. Knox,
statiDg that he was present at the trial
of Miller, and that the conviction was
based entirely upon circumstantial
evidence; that at the trial a measure
was introduced by one Sam Adams, a
iritncoo fnrthu Sltafo nil rnnrt.j TUT tfi bp
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a measure of tbe defendant's track:
that the measure was afterwards compared
with Pleasant Miller's tracks and
that the measure did not lit, but was
very much longer, that tbe said Sam
Adams thereupon cut off about two
inches of the said measure, so as to
make.it correspond to what was known
to be pleasant Miller's track; that the
measure was produced at the trial and
sworn to be the measure of the tracks
seen around the burned building. Furthermore,
that the prosecutor tried to
get him (Kqox) to testify that they were
Pleasant Miller's tracks, but tbat he refused
to do so, that neitaer he, the defendant,
nor his attorney knew these
facts at the trial, and that he (Knox)
was not called upon to testify lor the
defend ant?State i
|THE JUSTICES AT WORK.
!
ARGUMENTS BEGUN IN THE DISPEN-j
SARY CASESThe
Saprrme Conrt at Last Getting; Hold
of the Mr>st Momentous Matter In the i
State?The Attorney s Against the State
Pressing the L *w of Stare Decisis.
Columbia, S. C., Sept. 13.?It was exactly
11 o'clock yesterday morning
when the three Justices of the Supreme
Court solemnly filed Into the court
room and took their seats. They wore
the black ?owds which tradition says
all Judges must wear. Chief Justice
Mclver took the center of the three
seats arranged for the Judges. Justice
Tope took the seat on the right of
sho nhiaf -Timf.inp the one l'ormerlv oc
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cupied by Justice AlcGowan. Justice
Gary took the seat on the left formerly
occupied by Justice Pope. Justice
Gary did not seem ill at ease in his positio'n
and a stranger walking in could
not have told but that every member oi
the honorable court had been there for
years.
The Chief Justice announced the
court ready for business. The court
room was fairly well filled with visitors
and among: the number were several
lawyers outside the city. Besides these
were a number of saloon mon and one
or two prohibitionists.
Everybody knows that the court has
been called in extra session for the purpose
of passing on the constitutionality
of the Dispensary law. The constitutionality
of the law is involved in two
cases?what is known as the Aiken case
and what is known as the Charleston
injunction case. The titles of the cases
are "The State ex relatione J. V* George
and G. T. Polley, relators, against tne
City Council of the City of Aiken, respondent,"
and "Theodore Melchers aad
F. VV. Jessen, complainants, petitioners
against W. T. C. Bates, Treasurer of
the State of South Carolina, and D. H.
Traxler defendants."
There are some points of difference
in each case but the cases are to be
heard at the same time and the court
will dispose of them about the same
time but notlikeiy m tne same decision.
The attorneys representing the State
in both cases are Attorney General
Buchanan and ft. W. Boydot Dtrlington;
for the city of Aiken, G. W. Croft;
and for Melchers and Jessen, J. P. K.
Bryan and H. A. M. Smith of Charleston.
All these were present yesterday
morning except Mr. Smith, who is in
Tennessee on business and could not
get here. Mr. Bryan explained to the
court Mr. Smith's absence and asked
that the latter be allowed to file his argument
within a certain time. The
court conferred on this a few seconds
and answered that Mr. Smith could file
the argument within ten days. The
Chief Justice, however, announced that
the court might reach a decision within
ten days. This was the only indication
given during the day that the court
proposes to hurry the cases.
The proceedings were opened by Attorney
Crott reading the records of the
Aiken case. Attorney Bryan followed
by reading the petition for the injunction.
In response to this petition Attorney
General Buchanan submitted
the following formal answer:
w T (i. Rites and D. II. Traxler,
upon whom ha3 been served a rule reQuiring
them to show cause why the
writ ofiojunctlon prayed for by the
petitioners herein should not be granted,
respectfully make return to said
rule, and for causes show:
1. That the respondent, W. T. C.
Bates, is the duly elected and quaiitied
Treasurer of the State of Souuh Carolina,
and the respondent, D. II. Traxler
is State Commissioner duly appointed
under the Act of the General Assembly
of the said State, entitled "An Act to
prohibit the manufacture and sale of
intoxicating liquors as a beverage
within this State, except as herein provided"
and continue in said ofiice under
the provisions of an Act of the
said General Assembly entitled "An
Act to declare the law in reference to,
and further regulate the use, sale, consumption,
transportation and disposition
of alcoholic liquids or liquors with
in the State of South Carolina and to
police the same," approved December,
23,1993, and now in force in this State.
2. That the acts of respondents, both
those done and performed, complained
of and objected to by petitioners herein
are each and ail required of respondents
by the said last mentioned Act, and
have been performed and will be performed
by tneni and each of them in ,
the faithful discharge of their sworn
duties as oilicers of tne State as aforesaid.
3. That they deny the unconstitutionality,
invalidity and nullity of said
Acts, in the particulars specified in tne
petition herein or in any other particular:
and, on the contrary allege that the
said Acts were passed by the General
Assembly in the legitimate exercise of
its constitutional power of legislation
and with the purpose and in the sincere
desire to minify tnei evils of the sale of
liquor within the borders of this State.
4. They deny that petitioners, or those
united with them, nave suffered iDjunes
or are about to suffer injuries from the
operation 01 me saiu .act 01 isy?j; ana,
oa the contrary, allege mat the operation
of the said Act has conferred and
will continue to confer great benefits
npon them, and upon all the law abiding
citizens of the State, in the way of
rescuing the people, and especially its
jouth, lrom the corrupting and demoralizing
intluences of the liquor saloon.
That petitioners complain as taxpayers
but that on their owd showing, the
moneys the disbursement of 'which
they seek to restrain are not the proceeds
of taxation but derived from the
sale of liquors ny the State.
5. The respondents further ans weriag
the rule herein, allege that the writ ot
injunction prayed for should not issue
for that petitioners allege no special
irreparable injuries to themselTes beyond
those suffered by the people at
large, nor do they allege in what respect
they have been or are likely tu be
injured by the operation of the said
Act.
G. The respondents further answering
the rule herein, allege that the writ of
injunction prayed for should not issue,
for that they are officers of the State
and should not, at the instance of private
citizens, be restrained in the discharge
of their public and otllcial duties
on the alleged ground of the unconstitutionality
of the law requiring their
action.
The respondents havingmade full returns
to the rule herein pray that the
same may be discharged with costs.
Attorney General Guchanaa arose
and asked permission of the court to
attack the decision of the court in the
case of McCullough vs Grown et al., on
which the 18'd2 Jaw was declared unconstitutional.
Permission was granted
and without that permission a great
deal of the argument prepared in both
cases would have been useless.
Chief -Justice Mclver stated that no
limit on the time for arguments would
be fixed.
Attorney General Guchanan andounced
that the attorneys had agreed
that Mr. Croft should open the arguments;
Mr. Goyd follow him, Mr. Gry
an next and the Attorney General
last.
All the preliminaries having been
disposed of the attorneys were ready to
begin arguments about 12:15 o'clock
and Mr. Crott arose and began. It Is
well enough here to state that the court
adjourned at 3 o'clock yesterday afternoon
after having heard the argument
of Mr. Croft and part of that of Attorney
15 ">yd. The latter will conclude
this morning and will be followed by
Ilryan and JJuchanan. All the arguments
will be concluded this afternoon.
REBUKED BY O'FERRALL.
Invitation of A fro-American Press Association
Wscllned.
Richmond, Ya., Sept. 12.?In answer
to an lnvitatiou to address the AfroAmerican
Press Association, Governor
O'Ferrall today wrote as follows:
Governor's Office,
Rlcnmond, Va , Sept. 12, 1894.
Messrs. .John Mitchell, W. Calvin Chase.,
John C. Daney and Others, Committee
of Afro-American Press Association,
City:
Dear Sirs: In response to your invi
tation to address or attend the convention
of the Afro-American Press Association,
now in session in this city, I
beg to say I would not think of accepting
an invitation to address any convention
or assembly that endorses, as
your convention did last evening, the
course of Ida Wells In her slander of
the people and civil authorities of the
South.
I condemn lynch law as much as any
one, ana as loo? as I am Governor of
Virginia every man, whether white or
black,whatever the charge against him
may be, shall have a trial by judge and
jury if I have to exert all tne power
given me by the Constitution and laws
of Virginia, and should any case of
lyncning occur I shall endeavor to enforce
the law against the lynchers, but
it strikes me that the action of your
convention in endorsing the misrepresentations
and slanderous utterances of
Ida Wells is calculated to do harm
rather than good, and intensify rather
than mollify the spirit of violence
which so frequently manifests Itself
not only in Virginia, but throughout
the South, when a certain crime is
committed. The brutes who commit
this crime, too horrible to mention, and
are summarily dealt with, seem to elicit
sympathy from Ida Wells and her
supporters, as thougn they were murdered
innocents, wmie not a word of
sympathy is expressed for their victims,
who have suffered more than"
death. I believe that if your convention
would condemn the crime which
ha3 caused the lynchings in the South
with rare exceptioas, and the leaders
of the colored people would frown upon
it and cry out against it, and not exert
their energies and devote their time to
a denunciation of the lynchings, there
wnnld fpw?r mitraoreq and if on
certainly fewer instances of mob violence.
I do not know, but it looks very
much to me as though the work of Ida
Veils was a deep laid scheme to check
as far as may be the progress of the
South, and every good citizen, white
and colored, should feel an interest in
refuting her vindications rather than
sanctioning them, as your convention
did last evening. She and her supporters
certainly stirred up a feeling against
her race wnich did not exist prior to
her crusade. The people of the South,
who have labored so assiduously for
nearly a generation now to recuperate
ana build up their waste places, will
not take kindly to the effort which
this woman and her followers are
making to bring reproach upon their
section, and create the impression that
it is a land of lawlessness and disorder.
i have a most frieadly feeling for the
colored people. They have my sympathies
in all their struggles and laudable
undertakings, a3 I think I have
shown in my private and public life,
and I was indeed deeply pained when 1
read this morning that your convention,
composed of representatives of
your race, nad struck the South a blow
which she does not deserve.
While I thank you for your invitation,
I must decline, under the circumstances,
to address your convention or
MWUVUV* * VIS UVUJIVUW ? ^ V Ul i.T I
Charles O'Ferral
Enthusiasm Over Gordon.
Pittsburg, Sept. 12.?Well on towards
last midnight that, which to the
members of the Union Veteran Legion
attending the encampment, and the
Fittsburg members of the organiz Ui on
was, perhaps, the most remarkable
3cene since'the close of the rebellion,
took place, when Gen. John 13. Jordon,
one of the leading commanders of the
Confederate army, appeared before a
vast number of Federal soldiers and
raised his voice for the obliteration of
sectionalism and a united America.
To say that the old Union soldiers
were responsive to Senator Gordon's
plea gives no adequate idea of the reciprocal
feeling manifested by the
thunderous cheers and hearty hand
CTusns with which thn A*.flr?nfod?rato
General was received. It was regular
meeting night of the Union Veteran
Legioa ana the hall was thronged.
Gen. Gordon was the first memoer of
the Confederate army to ever enter the
hall. A great crowd gave three very
hearty cheers. Gen. A. L. Pearson, in
a happy remark, introduced the rebel
General, whom many present had met
at the surrender of Appomatox.
General Gordon aaid: "I and all right
thinking men of any section, would
always admire men who fought."
Turning to the Union ilags which covered
the speaker's stand, he delivered a
very eloquent apostrophe, pledging his
devotion and that of the ex-CoQfeaerates
of tne South to that banner and
all that it symbolizes. lie addressed
the soldiers as comrades and countrymen,
and every time the General, in
his calm, deliberate tones used these
endearing terms, the audtence was visibly
affected. At the end of his eloquent
address three tremendous cheers
were given. Corporal Taaner responded
in an address of no less fervid eloquence,
pledging the respect and admiration
of all real Union soldiers who
fought and suffered,and for such loyal,
patriotic men and soldiers as were represented
by Gen. Gordon. Corporal
Tanner's remarks were deliveted most
earnestly and eloquently, seated in a
chair, the recent amputation of his
limb3 preventing him from standing
on his feet.
Swift Jait C0,
Richmond, Sept. 11.?A Rowling
Green special to the Dispatch says:
Near Howling Green yesterday, at the
house of J udson Carter and in the absence
of the family, Carter's little girl,
Moselle, seven years old. was criminally
assaulted by Moses Christopher, a
negro boy, who lives with Carter, and
has been in his employment for a
number of years. The condition of the
little girl is critical; she will probably
die. A large crowd, though terriblv
excited, permitted the iiend to be conveyed
quietly to jail, through deference
to the law. Christopher was indicted
this morning, arraigned, put on
trial and today couvicted, the jury imposing
the death penalty. Judge E. C.
Moncure sentenced him to be hanged
on the 11th of November.
SOME ENGLISH SNOBS
' COMES OVER HERE TO INVESTIGATE
THE LYNCHING REPORTS.
What Governor O'Farral. or Virginia,
and Governor Northern, ot Georgia, Haa
to Say to Them?They Were Treated
Taut A boot Right.
Richmond, VaM Sept. 10.?The following
appears in the Evening State
here this aiternoon:
Governor O'Ferroll received last night
the following telegram irom the New
York World:
New York, Sept. 9.?To Governor
Charles T. O'Ferrall. E?q.:
An English committee has been sent
here to investigae and denounce Southern
lynching8. Will you please telegraph
us what you think of English
meddling with our aftairs."
The Governor's reply:
Commonwealth of Virginia, Governor's
office,
Richmond, Va., Sept. 9th, 1894.
To the World, New York:
Things have come to a pretty pass in '
this country wnen we are to have a lot (
of English moralists sticking their noses
into our national affairs. It is the
quientescence of brass and impudence, i
They had better sweep in front ot their i
own doors before seeking to regulate 1
us. We might as well investigate Eiglish
affairs in India, her White Chapel 1
mudere3, her Jack the Rlpper'e slashings,
the Maybrick trial and her alleged 1
injustice an-' cruelty to this woman, her j
rapacious colonial policy in Africa and
the degrading effects upon the Chinese j
resulting from the opium war. What do
they propose to do in case they find that .
the law is not administered here accord- ?
ing to their ideas? Declare war against i
us, or open the vials of their wrath upon 1
our heads? What Information do
they seek? Do they want to know that 1
the white people in the South have
lynched negroes wk<v8e miserable lu3ts *
led them to the commission of the black ?
crimes of rape upon white women. If j
so, they need not investigate, for such ;
is the fact. Do they desire to know that *
this has been done by infuriated com- t
munlties for the protection of their white j
amman and tn RftVft f.n? viot.ima fit thf?S?
MVkMWM %?MV? -V ? ? V ?V ' J
fiends from the hnmiliation of testifying
In courts? Ef so, this is the fact. Do 1
they want to know whether there was
any doubt as to the guilt of the men
lynched? If so, for the satisfatioa of
their yearniDg souls, they could have ascertained
without encountering the
perils of a sea trip, that their guilt was
clear in every instance. If they had
desired to learn whether these lynchings
were permitted or countenanced by the
civil authorities, they could have learned
through the regular channels of correspondence
that in every case the civil authorities
were either without knowledge
or were overpowered. In Virginia, the
authorities in every case have asserted
all their power to suppress the lynching
spirit and within the last few months I
have protected from violence with military,
at heavy expense to the State,
thiee negroes who were charged with
outraging white women. They had fair
trials, were convicted and executed.
While lynch law is to be condemned,
and every effort has heen made and '
will be made to suppress if in the South,
without the advice of those would.be ]
philanthropists, who have taken so much 1
upon themselve, lvnching will surely )
cease wheQ the crime of rape ceases. ?
These sympathhtic Englishmen might <
find missionary work among the negroes 1
of the South In warning them against
the consequences of the forcible gratilica- (
tion of theirjdevifish lu3ts.
/o: rp a ? *
J ^UUliCB J. . W fAKHALlli! I 1
Governor ot Virginia.
GOV. NORTIIEN'S REPLY. t
Atlanta, Sept. 10.?This morning:
the following telegram fron the New
York World was received by Governor t
W. J. Northern "An English committee 1
has been sent here to investigate and '
denoance Southern Iyuchings. Will J
you please telegaph us what you think 1
of English meddling with our affairs?" t
In reply to this query, Governor Northen,
this morning, wired the following t
reply:
To the World New 1'ork: t
Say to the "English committee" who
have come to tbis country "to investi- <
crate* and denounce lvnchlnus at the I
South," that I am in position to know
that they have received their information
from irresponsible sources, and
that the English people have declined
and refused to be properly informed
about our laws and the conduct of our
government. The English papers to
my knowledge have declined time and
again to publish statements made to
them in defense of the South by Englishmen,
who are now residents of the
South. Under these conditions we do
not want any further outside hypocrical
cant upon talse ideas of our goverment.
The people of this State are
quiet able to administer their own aftairs
and they are doing it in full justice
to the negro, as our laws and our
conduct will attest. We have already
endured more outside interference ia
our local matters than we will submissively
tolerate ia the future. Let
these kindly disposed Eaglishment return
to their owq country and prevent
by law the inhuman sale of virtuous
curls to lustful men in hitrh nlaces.hanc
all such demons as Jack the Ripper,
punish, as it deserves, the barbarous
wholesale slaughter of negroes in ^
Africa by Englishmen who go there to t
steal their gold; supply the necessities j.
to prevent oread and labor riots aud j
strikes, which are wholly unknown to t
the people of the South; feed and give g
employment to the poor, as do the peopie
of my section; give to the oppressed j
irishmen the rights humanity demands, j
and when they shall have pulled the t
beam out of their own eyes, then they g
may, with better grace, appoint them- t
selves a committee to hunt for the t
moat that may be ia our eyes. .
While we have irregularities at the
South and negroes are sometimes
lynched, they are never slaughtered by
wholesale as Englishmen sometimes t
destroyed them. I send you by mall (
the law and record of my own State on c
these matters ana 1 caauengenot oniy a
the English committee on lynchiogs at
the South, but the civilized world, to
show a better. Why come with this investigation
to denounce the South just
prior to a Congressional election, wnen
we have just had a negro lynched In
Kansas April 2, another in Ohio on the
Sabbath, April 15th, and when white
l'oles and Hungarians have recently
been brutaliy butchered in Michigan
and Pennsylvania and negroes ruu out
of Franklin Park, X. J., in herds? We
challenge investigation by all persons
who have the right to investigate these
charges, but ans attempt upon the part
of Englishmen tainted by their own
national crimes to arraign us for trial
must be considered a gross impertinence.
W. J. XORTIIEN.
Governor of Georgia.
WHAT OTIIER GOVERNOR SAY.
The following letters, In addition to 1
those above have been received by The
World:
Governor William Flshback, of Arkansas,
says:
That cowardly assassins who seek the
protection of the mob to commit murder
infest every country is to be deplored,
but as loDg as human nature remains
as it is the efforts of the better
class of people to suppress them can
only be embarrassed by the officious intermeddling
of outsiders. This is true
even when the interence comes from
our nearest neighbors,to whom we are
bound by ties of political relationship
but that Eagland, a foreign country
and one which pays less than one-third
as much money per capita for the education
of its people as the United States
pays, should assume the role of a missinary
to teach us our duty, can but excite
ridicule as well as resentment. If
its committee is really sincere in its efforts
to suppress lynching, it must be
sadly wanting in common sense not to
have learned this much of human na- I
ture. My advice to the committee, if
it is indeed in earnest and is honest, is
to go home.
The reply from Governor Matthews,
of Indiana, is as follows:
The visit of the English committee
to investigate and denounce southern
lynching is certainly a remarkable and
T 4- AUA..1 J k/v -si
siuguiai yiuueuuie. xi suuuiu uc iegarded
as a meddlesome interference,
wholly unwarranted, and not deserving
of even courteous or tolerant treatmeat
by our people. It is a good opportunity
to let Englaudor other countries
understand that we can and will
manage our internal affairs without interference
on their part.
The governor of South Dakota, Hon.
C. H. SbeldoD, writes as follows:
We have no need for English committee
in the country when the purpose
is to give peculiar emphasis to
the English ida of English superioity.
We deprecate lynchings. .Punishment
for crime doe3 not require such means.
We can, however, take care of our own
affairs without the aid of English phariiees.
If I were the Governor of a State
which they propose to investigate they
would get scant courtesy.
Governor Altgeld, of the state of IIinois,
says:
Answering your telegram, I will say
there are outrages committed in the
jouth in violatiou of law, and there are
outrages committed in Ireland in the
the name of the law. Posjibly
the English committee can do
lome good in the south. If it does
then the southern people should return
the compliment and send a committee
to Ireland to stop the outrages there.
Hon. W. A. McGorkle, governor of
West Virginia, sends the following:
I regard the sending of an Kaglish
jommittee as a piece of intermeddling
with our affairs not to be excused. The
south is always, in a proper case, ready
ind willing to give full hearing of its
iffairs a competent tribunal, but certainly
it does not require an English
;ommittee in that light.
From away out in Utah, the foliowng
protest is entered by Governor Caeb
W. West:
The coming of the Euglish committe
?or the purpose named is presumptuai?o
\A7a ama fiillvr nonaVtln
juo cixLUiioc:!jr. T!C aic Luuy ta^auic
)f maaagiog oar own affairs without
nterference from any quarter, and are
mtirely willing to permit full occupa;ion
to our English cousins in attendng
to their own business. I am firmly
jpposed to all lynching, and willing to
ndorse all proper efforts to stop it. I
leartly commend the energetic and
rigorous action of the Tennessee authorities
to that end,
Hon. Elias Carr, who governs the
rarheelstate, says:
North Carolinians are a law-abiding
people, and hence opposed to lynching.
We believe that the law is adequate if
promptly administered. The sovereign
itates are competent to cope with the
luestion without the otlicious interneddling
of a foreign power.
This is the way Governor Reynolds,
jf Delaware, puts it:
T :? 4-U/-. /?#
j. iiavo entile laitu iu uic puwci kjl
American laws and American courts
x> protect the liberties of our citizens.
We are amply able in this grand country
to take care of ourselves.
Governor Stone, of Mississippi, says:
The coming of the Eaglish committee,
of which you speak, to invstigate
ynchings in the United Statesis an exlibition
of superb cheek, but I am sure
L do not object if the committee shall
3e guided by a genuine desire to know
icd tell the truth.
Governor Shortridge of North Dakota,is
short and pointed when he says:
Lynching is wrong under all circumtances
in any country?north or south.
Che Eaglish had better attend to their
>wn business. America will not tolerate
foreigners meddling with our
lome affairs.
Oregon's governor, Sylvester Tennoy>r,
says:
The Eaglished are running the preleat
national administration as to its
inancial policy,and arethus emboldened
10 further impudence. It is all wrong,
jutiustnow the Eagllsn appear to
>e running our government.
Swept the State.
Augusta, Sept. 11.?The Republi:ans
regard the results ot the state elec,ton
as the biggest victory they have
ichieved since the birth of the Repubican
party. The total vote for goverlor,
which two years ago was 130,000,
vas reduced from 15,000 to 20,000. The
Republicans claim that Cleaver's vote
viil reach nearly 70,000. In every one
>f the 16 counties of the state, Democacy
was defeated. Waldo county
ilected their whole county ticket for
,he first- time in many years. Every
;ity in the state has probably gone Rejublican,
which is something phenomnal.
The returns so far indicate that
rohnson (Democrat) will not get over
15.000 votes against 55,000 cast for him
,wo year3 ago, and this may be reduced
ly later returns. The Republicans
lave carried both branches of the legslature,
electing a solid senate. In the
louse of representatives, which conlists
of 151 members?and which two
rears ago stood 107 Republicans and 44
Democrats?the Republicans, it is beteved,
have elected 110 members, while
he remainder who have been elected
ire Democrats and Populists. Among
ho Kepubiicans eieciea to tne nouse is
jew Towers, of Houlton, who will be
ae next speaker.
Accused of Murder.
Jacksonville, Fla., Sept. 13.?Waier
A. Holt, a young man from Macon,
Ja., was ari ested here today on a charge
?f murdering G. M. Heard, a prominent
tttomey of Frankling, Texas, on Sepemuer
24, 1893, who was found with
ds heal crused in. IIoll claims that
ie had just arrived in Franklin the day
he murder was committed and was at
he house of his uncle, Thomas Simcons,
when the murder took place.
Jolt's leaving Franklin five days after
he murder caused suspicion and he
vas traced to MacoD, Ga., to various
>oints in Florida and iically to Jackon
ville by Macon detectives. He was
irrestedby Constable Land on informaion
furnished by Detective Ford of
dacon and Land refuses to give up his
irisoner until Ford divides the reward
>ythe murdered man's widow. Holt
s still in jail, but is willing to go to
rexas without a requisition" He will
irooably be released on a writ of habeas
:orpus. He was preparing to start for
Cexas when arrested, having already
jought a ticket.
A SUBSTITUTE FOR COTTON.
The StiRnr H?et Recommended to Oar
Farmers.
Columbia, September 10?Governor
Tillman did not bother himself today
with politics. He did incidentally ass
about the report of the Murray conference,
which he says was unfounded,but
he spent most of the time answering
aD accumulation of mail. Among the
letters was one from Mr. R. F. Fergusod,
of Chicago, which was given
prompt attention and which he hope3
will amount to something. If Mr.
Furgeson is not able to do anythmg
may be some one else who has the requisite
capital will be able to see ;
things as he does and develop the beet !
sugar industry in this State. The en- 1
tering wedge has been given. Will it
amount to aoythiDg? .
The letter irom Mr. Ferguson reads I
as follows: (
874 West Polk Street, /
Chicago, III., Sept. 4,18'Jl ) ,
Governor Tillman, Culumbia, S. 0.? <
My Dear Sir: From a careful examina- j
tion of the formation and soil of South
Carolina as given in a book published
by the State Board of Agriculture of
South Carolina, I believe you have one
of the best States in the Union for the
cultivation of the sugar beet and the j
manufacture of beet sugar. It is a fact j
that the cultivation of the sugar beet :
under the scientific method necessary ,
to its success increases the productive- .
ness of the ground for other crops. It
is also a particularly hardy plant, ad- <
justing itself without difliculty to con- ]
aitions of soil and climate with ex- ,
treme tenacity of life and succeeding 5
where many other agricultural products
would under the same conditions i
be a total failure. Tne sugar beet i
fxr/Mil/1 oroporro in mnaf norfj nf cnnr ?
7t vuiu a v ui agv tu juvju kjl j vui
State fifteen tons per acre and would
sell for $4 50 to So a toil at the factory.
Factories could be established oa your
navigable rivers and railroad line3 and
located so as to be convenient to the
largest number of beet sugar producers.
I write you because I have been
deeply interested In your Administration
and the able manner in wnich you
have conducted it and because 1 liite
your State and want to see it prosper.
How is your State Hoard of Agriculture
formed? JDj you appoiat it?
Could you secuie me a position to experiment
with raising sugar beet in
your State? I know the introduction
of sugar beet culture and the manufacture
of beet sugar wouli be of the
utmost value to your state,aud I would
be pleased to have your personal views
in relation to the same. Take your s
coast counties from Beaufort to Horry; s
thea the next tier from Barnwell to g
Marlboro; then the next from Aiken to r
Cnesterfifcid; and next Eigefield to a
Lancaster; all possess the soil sutabie
to sugar beet culture and would pro- i
duce the.best results, making from $50 t
to $60 per acre clear profit, and a sure j
crop, no danger of failure. If you can
inaugurate this new source of wealth c
it will be a fitting crown to your Ad- t
ministration. Will you kindiv let me j
hear from your I win iurnisii you s
satisfactory references if there Is a
chance for business. c
lisspectfully jours,
ft. H. Fekguson.
Governor Tilimaa replied as follows:
Columbia, September 10,1894.
ft. H. Ferguson, Onicago, ill.?Aly
Dear Sir: Your letter of September 4
has been received. In reply 1 woulu
say that experiments in the cultivation
of the various varieties of beets, including
the sugar beets, have been
made in this State time and time
again, and there is no doubt whatever
as to our soil and climate being well
suited to beet culture. The dilliculty
which I forsee in developing the sugar
industry here will be lack of capital to
manufacture the beet and the sugar.
The production of the beet in paying
quantities will be easy. The skilled
labor, conlined mainly to superintendence,
can be easily obtained in Europe.
The question is, who will furnish the
machinery to make up the product.
I am particularly interested in developing
the production of any new crop
that will take the place of cotton in
our agriculture, and will be glad to '
have you give me, if you are familiar
with the subject; estimates on the cost
of a plant to manufacture beets into ,
sugar. We have large areas of very (
fertile, cheap lands now devoted to j
cotton culture. Our farmers can sup- ,
ply all the beets at prices as cheap as (
they can be produced anywhere in the
world. The time is propritious for
enlisting their support to any new agricultural
production whtch promises
prolit, as cotton at present prices yields ]
uone. We have no State Board of Ag- j
riculture at this time, but you might .
correspond with the director of the ex- .
penmental statioa located at Clemson
College, but as I have already told you, j
if someoody will buy the sugar beet at ,
the prices you name our farmers will .
contract to cultivate them according 5
to the instructions and to deliver any .
quanity.
I shall be glad to hear from you fur- j
ther on this importhut subject.
ftespectfuliy, J
B. 11. Tillman. .
a Ghastly Discovery*
Richmond, Ya, Sept. 12.?a Bristol, i
Tenn., special to the Dispatch says: ;
Charles Rector aad a boy named Morris
in exploring a cave near Seveu Mile ]
Ford, Ya., thirty mUes east of this f
place, yesterday discovered two skele- 1
tons forty feet below the surface. The i
cave had been long Known, but no one
had ever attempted to explore it because
of its great depth. The Morris
boy was ler, down by a rope. When the <
find was reported a party of citizens ]
went to the cave to investigate further. j
In all ten skeletons were taken out,and j
were adjudged to be the bones of men,
women and children. One skeleton ,
was found in a sitting position, with '
the skull reclining on the arms, which \
were folded across the knees. Thus far ;
there is but one way to account for the !
charnel house. Old citizens say that 1
many years ago there was an inn kept 1
near this cave by a man named Allen i
and that occasionally people who stop- t
ped there had mysteriously disappear- (
ed, and were never again heard of. The ,
supposition is that they were killed ;
in this inn, robbed of their valuables
and then consigned to the cave.
Marderetl by a Jioy.
Cnvvpr.t.svrlle. l\i. Sept. 13 ?Y es- !
terday Bernard Toker, a German farm- .
er was shot dead and his wife mortally ;
wounded by Frank Morris, a sixteenyear-old
boy. Morris is a son of the 5
? ~TaItot rmrohoonH V*ia (
mail 11ULU WUUUl AVati fuiv<u?^u Uid
little farm. The woman is badly shot ^
and cannot recover. The scene of the
tragedy is Reich Hill, five miles distant
from Connellsville in the mountains.
The probable motive of the crime was t
robbery. While Toker was building a j
wall in the cellar, crawling along on his (
hands and knees, the boy shot him in t
the back of h!3 head, the bullet coming ,
out at his forehead. The murderer ran- j
sacked his victim's pockets, securing a
few dollars in cash and his silver watch.
Morris then searched the house and j
tried to conceal his crime by setting \
fire to the building. Mrs. Toker arrived
home at that moment and was fired on i
by the murderer without warning. The '
woman fell and the boy lied. 1:
REPUBLICAN RALLY.
STATE COMMITTEE CALL THEM TO
THE FRONTAn
A-ldress I'saed Wednesday?CongretHlonal
Candidates to ba Pat Oat. Elections
to be Contested All Along the
Line.
Columbia,S.C.,Sept. 13.?'The Republican
corpse in South Carolina has
begun to snow sigas of life again. It
has had a good long; and peaceful slumber,
and, as soon as it gets thoroughly
awa^eoed, will doubtless fall off into
another death-like swoon, it will be so
much surprised at itself.
Hut to be serious, the Republicans
are on the move now, and getting ready
for the part they are to play in the
coming November general election.
The following address, issued yesterday
by the State Republican committee,
3hows what is being done, and is entirety
self-explanatory.
Headquarters of the State Republican
Executive Committee.
C dumbia, S, 0., Sept. 11,1894.
To the Republicans of South Carolina:
A political struggle of far-reaching
and widespread importance is now la
progress. Vermont and Maine have already
spoken tn such grand Republican
majorities as have not been knowQ
since tae days of Abraham Lincoln.
Tnis Democratic party, in full possession
of every department of the government
for the Qr?c time since 1850, has
iemonstrated its incapacity to successful
administer the government.
Everything seems to indicate that
me aexr, uouse 01 itepresentatives will
be largely Republican, and that the
landslide of this November will be bat
the prelude to the Republican cyclone
of 1896. Although illegally disfranchised
by the registration and election law s
of this State, the Republicans of South
Jarolina caanot afford to.remaia Inactive
and indifferent in tbi's great straggle.
Habile sentiment is crystalizlcg
igainst these infamous registration
and election laws, and whether they
ire legally decreed to be unconstitutional
or "not, a Republican House of
Itepressntatives would not hesitate to
lQseat and send home in disgrace those
whose only claim to electiouis based
on the suppression ot' the right to vote
>f a large maj ority of the citizens of
;he State.
The Republicans at this election
ihould record an earnest and vigorous
oortest against their illegal disfraa;hisement.
Candidates for Congress
ihould be nominated in every Congresiional
district, and all Republicans
ihould attempt to cast their votes for
epressntatives ia Coagress. A record
ihould be kept of all who are rejected
under the operation of the registration
aw, which will serve a3 a b3sis to congest
that law before the next National
louse ot Representatives.
Congressional committees should at
>nce arrange for Congressional conven
.ivma bv uuLuiudUO UdUUlUit'jca lor V/Jll*
jress, not waiting for a call to be lamed
for a State convention.
Congressional conventions will bs
instituted as follows:
First District,31 delegates?Beaufort
:ouaty, (5; Berkeley, 2; Charleston, 13;
Jolleton, 3; Georgetown, 4; Williams)nrg,
3.
Second District, 27 delegates?Hampon,4;
Barnwell, 8; Aiken, 6; Eigefield,
?.
Third District, 27 delegates?Abbeville,
9; Xewberry, 5; Anderson, 7; Ocolee,
3; Pickea3, 3.
Fourth District,33 delagates?Greenville,
9; Laurens, G; Fairfield, 5; Sparanburg,
7; Union,4; Richland, 4.
Fifth District, 25 delegates?York,
;; Chester, 5; Lmcaster, 3; Spartanburg,
2; Caesserfield, 3; Kershaw, 4;
Jnicn, 1. r
Sixtn Distric, 27 delegates?ClarenIon,
4; Darliogtoa, 5; Florence, 4; Marlboro,
4; MarioQ, 5; Horry,3; Williamsburg,
2.
Seventh District, 29 delegates? Berkeley,
4; Chieton, 4; Lexington, 4;
Richmond, 2; Sumter, 7; Orangeburg, 8.
E. A. Webster, Chairman.
Attest: J. H. Johnson, Secretary.
. t
A. Tex<\s Oatrftff.
Waco,Sept. 11.?James H.Johnson,
who, tnree weeks ago, married Emma
Joolev. a nrettv trirl of 15. lives with
Ci3 wife and tier sister, Miss Era Cooley,
in a teat oa the Mosley plantation,
3a the iJrazo3 river, sevea miles belo w
Waco. The family i3 engaged ia cotton
pickiDg aod are 10 camp for that parpose.
At an?arly hour two men called
Johnson out and, dragging him away,
oeat him into a condition of helplesscess.
They then went after the women
and one of them caught Mrs. Johnson
and outraged her near the tent. Miss
Eva Cooley escaped by running and
hiding uDder a culvert, where she remained
until daylight. Johnson managed
to get to VVaco, and returned with
three officers, who arrested C. F. Ely
and J. W. Vernon, two youog tenant
farmers who were also engaged in picking
cotton on the Mosley plantation.
Both men were very drunk when ar- s
rested. James H. Johnson, his wife, J
and Miss Eva Cooley all three identified
Ely and Vernon as their assailants. ?
Ihe men were locked up for grand jury
uivesug^uuu, tuab uuuy ueiujf m at?iion.
Oa the big plantations below
Waco hundreds of families are in tents
picking cotton, and the outrage has
spread consternation down the Brazos
valley. The pickers will all move together
in groups for protection.
Hot Campaign.
Frankfort, Ky? Sept. 12.?The
contest for the Congressional nomination
in ihe Ashland district has reached
that degree of intensity where adjectives
ail to describe it. The utmost good naure
ha3 character z*.d proceedings here,
ihough ail parties have been active aud
dl claim everything in sight. The sensation
of the past twenty-four hours was
he speech Monday nignt of Rev. R. L,
McR^ady of Grace Episcopal Church,
tie has been a lifelong friend and adnirer
of Colonel Breckinridge, bat savs
;hat he can follow him no longer. He
isncuoced his cause before a political
nseuog in burning language. He said
n substance that he had heard Colonel
Breckinridge sn?ak at the unveilin? of
.fie monument creeled to the Confederate
vetrans at L?xia<zton. When he
jointed to the newly made grave of his
vile, a ad paying her memory a touching
;ribu:e, said all his hop!3 laid buried.
'According to his own confession,"
>aid the minister, llhe was then carrying
in his shameless inlercouse with the
L'jlJard woman.
Lost Orer a Million.
New York, Sept. 11.?It is intimated
,bat the Louisville and Nashville report
to be submitted to the stockhold;rs
at the annual meeting will show
.hat the losses sustained by the com>any
in its effort to control the South
Carolina Railroad have been charged to
orolit and loss. The amount has been
variously staled. The exact amount,
lowever, is not far from $1200,000.
riie report will also show that the floatng
indebtedness of the company has
oeen reduced to less than $1,250,000,
ill ot which is carried on time.