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BY IIUGII WILSON.
CHANGE OF VENUE. j
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ANIMATED DISCUSSION ON THE (
^JURISPRUDENCE ARTICLE. ,
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Difl'urltij; Views of DillVrlnjf UclfRiitrs its
to the Place ofTrlul of C.-ispk In Court.
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Columbia. Nov. 7.?The session of <
the Convention to day was consumed 1
in the discussion of parts of the article i
on jurisprudence. I
The article as reported by the com- '
mittee contained, as a part of section 1
2, these words: "The State shall J
have the same right to move for a i
change of venue that a defendant j
has." . '
Mr. Geo. Johnstone moved to |
stride out these words. Mr. Johnstone
went on to explain the scope of 1
his amendment and he insisted that 1
he was merely trying to preserve a c
right as old as the magna Charter.
This is a great general principle that i
ought not be avoided for special cases.
It will be contended that in certain j
cases of homicdes or riots or lynchings
there should be a modification of the c
fixed principle of a thousand years, s
He said that perhaps the course of a t
solicitor had been impeded by public
sentiment in a county, but even in i
view of this the old and settled rule c
was still best. t
' * -1 . 1 il A ?_ ?.J 4 Uioi aUa
Jie conienaea uiai uuuer luutnuugc
there would be more miscarriages of ]
S- stice than under the present system.
e went on to urge to remove the 1
case would not give as much ease in j
getting witnesses as now. He contended
that public sentiment was public t
opinion and amounted to something.
Mr. Johnstone was making a strong
and able argument in favor of his
position when the hour for taking a ?]
recess arrived, and the Convention
took a recess until to-night at 7:30 j
o'clock.
At the night session Mr. Johnstone 1
resumed his speech, showing how the t
existing law as to changing the place \
of trial protected all interests, and urg- c
ing that so l-evolutionarv an alteration t
should not be contemplated. It was 1
his solemn conviction from his large j
practice that all the trouble arose on t
the witness stand. Public sintiment
sometimes influences juries, but it \
lime hotter that. it. <should be so than
have a man made a martyr to the
State's machinery. There was no j
need to desert the principle when the
civilized world is taking it up. We t
are asked now for the first time in our c
entire history to make this change. c
The ordinance as to the bonds for
Chesterfield and the article on suffrage <]
were reported as engrossed. c
Mr. Bellinger, of Barnwell, said he ^
felt it unnecessary to speak in favor
of the report as it*stood, as it had been q
passed by a large vote to a third reading.
He spoke glowingly of the abil- r
ity and force of Mr. Johnstone, but s
he would say that Mr. Johnstone <]
reads history wrong as bearing on j
this matter. He gave an extended re- c
view of the jury system. He insisted e
that the State ought to have the same c
right as the defendant in the matter c
of change of venue. c
Mr. Geo. D. Tillman asked how ^
many changes of venue were granted
before the days of degenerate Radical j
rule. " j
Mr. Bellinger said he would reach
this later on. He said he never saw a t
lawyer representing the defense who
did not think his client improperly t
convicted. r
Mr. Bellinger then referred to the f
division of the people over the dispen- f
sary law. t
Mr. Johnstone asked him if he c
didn't believe that the people would
be one on the dispensary system when 1
it went out in the Constitution- t
Mr. Bellinger said that he did not. t
There was one county in his district s
where certain men could never bo t
convicted of selling liquor under the a
dispensary law. t
Mr. Bellinger then went on to say \
that Mr. Jervey had impressed him .r
that he believed that a dispensary con- 1
viction could not be secured in
Charleston county. a
Strong speeches in favor of Mr. i
Johnstone's amendment were made
by Messrs. Geo. D. Tillman, Burn and
Fnrrow. (
AN INTERESTING COLLOQUY. ^
Mr. Havnsworth then took the iloor c
and said the law gave the criminals all 1
the protection and that was the reason t
for so much crime. Every time the c
attempt was made to put the State on r
a footing with the criminal these elo- c
quent gentlemen got up and entered c
tneir protest. t
The proposition simply meant that 1
this was merely a scheme to put the c
State on a footing with the criminal, s
Mr. G. D- Tillman?Do you think
that the State ought to have the same t
opportunity as a poor, friendless man e
charged with an offense?the State t
with its unbounded wealth and in- i
fluence? 1
Mr. Haynsworth said that the legis- c
lature could and would look to pay t
the poor man's trial expenses. Mr. t
Johnstone wanted to know how it 1
would pay all these necessary expen- t
sf s of the defendant. i
Mr. Haynsworth said the poor man
got too much justice, if anything.
Mr. G. D. Tillman?I will remind 1
the gentleman that Jonesof Edgefield,
whose trial was changed to Lexington, t
and who was finally convicted of man- i
slaughter, was a very poor man.
B. R Tillman. If the gentlemen
will allow me, I will help him by (
saying that Mr. Jones had some of ^
ihe richest men in Edefield county behind
him. 1
G. D. Tillman?I can say that I
know that Maj. W. T. Gary from i
Augusta, who defended him,has never 1
beenpaid one cent. (Laughter.) t
B. R. Tillman?Any way he was
able to get an appeal to the supreme <
court that found a loop hole, as ital- <
ways does when good lawyers are em- I
ployed by the defense, to grant a new {
tiial. ]
Mr. Johnstone suggested that if the 1
gentleman knew how such holes were
found by the supreme court that he
be appointed a committee of one to ]
look into it and see that different kind i
of men were appointed on the supreme i
bench. J
Mr. George Tillman said that Jones I
lay in jail three years; that there 3
were three mistrials. 1
Mr. Haynsworth?These mistrials \
in Edgefield, where his own relatives
are! And then convicted!
G. D. Tilllman?But not in Edge- i
field. Ii
Mr. Hayasworth paid a high compliment
to Major Gary and then went
rm to say that they were not discussing
the Jones case.
Mr. Haynsworth was declaring that
it was an important principle they are
uhout to fix, wb?-n Mr. I'dtton asked
liiisi if would h.ie it if tliis pririciple
had been applied to the ku kluz
trials and the defendants had been
ixieu in
He went on to argue that the Slate
should be given justice. The question
af the hour was how can we seenre
convictions and stop crime.
AN EX-SOLICITOR.
Mr. Gilland, who had been a solicitor
for four years, thought he had
lone his duly in trying the prisoners
by the form of law. He had to come
here to Jearn that it was the duty of
Lhe solicitor to secure convictions.
The solicitor had the whole power of
the State in his liaud. If a man transferred
to another county could
my one say he was able to reject his
jurors to the advantage of fairness.
The prisoner was the man entitled to
:>rotectiou under the State's power.
Senator Tillman?Doesn't the very
'act that he rejects jurors show that
le would get a fairer trial in another
:ounty where he knew no one?
Mr. Gilland?If the change were
lot made to secure a conviction.
Senator Tillman tried to make it ap>ear
that it was to secure a fair trial.
Mr. Gilland said that the advocates
)f the proposition had aaid it was "to
lecure a conviction/' He took the
vords out of their own mouths.
Mr. Haynsworth asked him if it
,vere not the purpose of a solicitor to
:onvict a man whom he believed guil
yHe
said it was uot a question of beief.
Mr. Bellinger asked him if he didn't
enow that the Constitution allowed
judges to grant changes of venue.
Mr. Gilland replied that the ques,ion
had never presented itself to nim.
Mr. Bellinger?But don't you know?
Mr. Gilland?I do not. Do you?
Mr. Bellinger?The judge in the
rones case so construed it.
Mi. Gilland?Well what's the use to
J- ix _ 1. 0
>ut xt m uere i
Mr. Bellinger said he would tell
lim; that there were two clauses in
he article on the bill of rights which
vere evidently placed there in conse[uence
of the action in placing a cerain
man in the penitentiary, and a
ike case about the right of trial by
ury, etc. He wishea to negative
hese.
Mr. Gilland?and that is exactly
vhat I'm objecting to.
FURTHER DEBATE.
Mr. Prince spoke in favor of the
Johnstone amendment.
Mr. Connor moved to table the mo
ion of Mr. Johnstone with a view to
;utting off all debate. There was a
horus of requests to withdraw.
He refushed to do so until Senator
Tillman finally requested him to do so.
Several members were asking the conrention
to vote down his motion.
Mr. Bellinger called the previous
[uestion on the section.
Mr. McGowan then took the floor 10
ninutes against Mr. Bellinger's propoition.
He denied that there was any
[anger of the dispensary ofFenders be
T? !.;?
rig acquiueu 111 ms wumv. m uu
ounty it was enforced. He said that
ven under the Constitution of 1868 no
ase had ever gone to the supreme
ourt to test this question of the
hange of venue. The present system
lad lasted for 700 years.
Mr. Haynsworth wanted to know
low the people were tried before the
Jnited States Constitution came in.
Mr. Johnstone?They were tried by
he Indians. (Laughter)
Mr. Ragsdale said thw "blood was
hicker than water," ana they should
emember that they were legislating
or their descendants?their poor and
riendless sons perhaps. It were well
o weave a solid fabric here?one that
:annot be broken.
Col. John T. Sloan wanted to enter
lis protest against the reilection made
>y tne gentleman from Barnwell on
he honest jurors of South Carolina to
ay that after they had been sworn on
he Bible, they would not bring in a
rerdict in accordance with the oaths
hey had taken. Col. Sloan closed
vith a vigorous, well-timed arraignnent
of the bad features and etfects of
tfr. Bellinger's scheme.
The cbnvention then at 11 o'clock
idjourned until 10 o'clock this mornng.
COL. ALDRICH
The first speaker this morning was
Jol. Robert Aldrich, who said that he
vould do nothing to violate the rights
jiven under magna charta. Ordinariy
those accused of crime are tried in
he counties where they commit the
>tfenses, but sometimes public sentinent
arises for or against the prisoner
>r for or against the law. Then one
>r two things have to be done. Either
0 acknowledge that justice cannot be
lad or to remove it to a more serene
itmosphere. This was what is called
1 change of venue.
Justice means one measure for allhat
the scales must be held with an
;ven hand. This provision would be
mnecessary if we did not find such
nstances that required the transfer.
iVe know that occasions do arise when
:hanges of venue are necessary, and
he committee did this with an intenion
of perfect equality. It is only to
)e had when the facts that make the
:hange necessary are supported by
ilRdavits.
You do not break down anything.
iTou leave the law as it always existed.
George Tillman?You assert that
.his will leave the law as it always exsted?
Colonel Aldrich ?I do so assert.
George Tillman?Even when every>ne
knows that up to 1808 a change of
;enue was never known?
Colonel Aldrich?But it could have
>een.
George Tillman?The Constitution
ilways provided, against it. It'ssinguar
that during 77 years it was never
lone.
Colonel Aldricli?I have only heard
>f its being done in but one case, yet
luring all that time the law allowed it
o be done. I will say further that if
iny man don't want the change made
ae has the remedy in his own hands
oy simply not violating the law.
DR. STOKES SPEAKS.
Dr. Stokes then spoke on the side of
Mr. Bellinger. He spoke of the question
of sentiment swaying the jurors
in favor of the accused. Ihe opinion
had been expressed that the accused had
[lie whole State against him. As a
matter of fact this instance showed
hat the people of the State were in
favor of the defendant.
MR. HUTSON.
Mr. Hutson stated that the State was
so powerful with the best legal talent
it iis back and all that the defendant
should be given some opportunity. n
Senator Tillman remarked that ac- p
quittal was the rule and conviction the li
exception. t<
A LIVELY TILT. V
Mr. Johnstone closed the debite. ?
lie went on to say that Senator Till- b
man charged the courts with being
corrupt. 8
Senator Tillman?Now, are you not
going a little too far. there?
Mr Johnstone?No. sir; wait a mo- 15
ment and I'll try and bring this thing s'
right before you. Don't you remem- P
ber the case of James in Darlington. e
He was a man wrapped in wealth. He ?
was convicted at nis own home be- a
cause of a strong sentiment and you 11
pardoned him. There is the man of
wealth and influence convicted in his "
own county. n
Senator Tillman?Yes, and he of- 11
fered the reward himself and the pardon
was asked for by three-fourths of h
the citizens, and the facts showed that "
he was not guilty. u
Mr. Johnstone?Yes, and I will be
just to you, though you are not always
just to others and the judiciary. Jones n
should have been pardoned and you *
did right to pardon him. "
Senator Tillman?The pardon, in P
my opinion, was a proper one. v
Mr. Johnstone?It was right The
man was improperly convicted and
about to be hanged. I only wished he "
had pardoned others that he should
have pardoned, and had not pardoned J*
some that he did pardon.
Senator Tillman?Thank you, sir.
(Laughter.) ^
Mr. Johnstone?But the getleman
from Edgefield denies that he assailed
the supreme court. The other day, j*
when discussing the homestead, did "
he not in direct terms charge the court
with a perversion of the law? Does
he not remember that when the su- ?
preme court decided the dispensary 11
law unconstitutional that he poured
forth the vials of his wrath on their
heads. Oh, I am glad to see that the
gentleman from Edgefield is sometimes ^
staggered in his calmer moments by "
his mere violent utterances.
Senator Tillman?I read that home- P
stead decision the other day. 11
Mr. Johnstene?Oh, T agree with 05
you that the court made a mistake in
that decision.
Senator Tillman?What, once you b
agree with me? .
Mr. Johnstone?Yes, twice if you j1
are right. You would get more to "
agree with your opinions, let me say, y
if you were not so violent in some of 11
your utterances.
Senator Tillman?It may be that "
the leopard will cange his spots or c(
that the lion will trim his claws. ?(
Mr. Johnstone?Then, thank God if
you do. (Laughter.) I've seen you
so often make errors of judgment that *1
if I were to brand you as I am inclined ?
to do, for every error of judgment,
you, in my opinion, would be the "
most astounding of criminals. (Laugh- ?
ter.) Bnt why charge every error of
judgment as dishonest? ?
Senator Tillman?We are not talking
about dishonesty and nobody has
chaged dishonesty. Now, Mr. John- J*
stone, do you pretend to say you know "
what'are the rights of married women
in this State under that decision? 11
Mr. Johnstone?Although I am a o:
modest man, I must plead that Ido s
know. If the legislature did not
change the laws so mnch the courts 11
could be more consistent. 11
Senator Tillman?Then do you think e<
that .the court's decision validating 11
certain township bonds were right?
Mr. Johnstone?I do not remember P
the details.
Senator Tillman?I am glad I have ,
found somethin ? that you do not claim "
to know all about.
Mr. Talbert?I think the gentlemen
nut rif nriler as nnrift of this has W
anything to do with the matter under c]
discussion. " T
Mr. Johnstone?Now, Talbert, sit
down and don't operate that automa- ai
tic'mouth of yours. (Great laughter.) si
Mr. Johnstone?The gentleman from a
Edgefield has so often claimed to be a hi
statesman and not a politician and so as
infallible in his judgment as to what
he knows, that I ought to be willing tl
to sit at the feet of Gamaliel and re- P<
ceive instruction. tl:
Senator Tillman?The court declared ri
certain bonds invalid and the legislature
by some hocus pocus and round ss
about way validated the bonds. vi
Mr. Johnstone There lie goes again tl
in another ons1 aught on the legislature ?j
and I would like to know where on ir
earth be exnects to find a man ex tc
cept himself thalfts ever right. er
Senator Tillman?What I want to n
know is whether you think the legislature
can validate an unconstitution- si
al dd)t? w
Mr. Johnstone?I haven't looked pi
into it. O]
Senator Tillman?Why the propos- p<
tion is as big and broad and as plain tc
as that monument out there.
This entire colloquy was conducted
in the best of humor by both Messrs.
Johnstone and Tillman, and it afforded
no end of amusement to the members
of the convention. Mr. Johnstone
was at his best.
Mr. BELLINGER CLOSES. r(
Mr. Bellinger closed the argument tl
onTTis side. There was quite a lively ai
debate between him, Mr. Johnston,
Mr. Bryan and Mr. G. D. Tillman. He qi
took up the suggestion that the dispen- yi
sary law was at the bottom of this dis- c<
cussion.
He gave his word that this matter
was not put there with any special re- y
ference to the dispensary law. He had
more reference to lynchings than to n
the dispensary. When he brought it b
11 ?-v*-* iv? avin+Viai* it
up mere was a pruviaiuu m auuuuv* n
article that no man could be held for ji
any crime unless upon the true bill of n
a grand jury of his own county. The -w
towns were now convicting under the fi
disbensary law. He was no advocate b
of the metropolitan police system. But \n
don't you know that the knowledge of
this power has shut up more blind v
tigers than anything else? You can't p
convict a man who has wealth.
I mentioned last night the dispensary p
law and every lawyer here who is op- n
posed to that law got ud here and be- p
gan to pitch into this bill on this ac- n
count. I did not inject the dispensaey
law in here. It is taken up by men n
who desire to completely emasculate b
) the dispensary law. tl
"The dispensary law now provides r
that in a case where the grand jury ii
shall fail to find a true bill that the si
court shall, at the request of the solic- c
i itor remove the trial to another county tl
and so on ad infinitum until a con- h
viction. What have we here? A pro- c
position to deprive the State of the
right, in all cases, in white cap cases,
lynching cases, dispensary cases, to f<
move for a change af venue.
What becomes of the dispensary "
system? They say that these people
are respecting it because the supreme p
court has decided it constitutonal.What
i
lan has a higher respect for the
reme court tnan he has for the ]
iture? When has any lawyer rel
d defend a man because the law u
rhicb he is being prosecuted is ur
titutional? I will tell you what
rought about this change. They
ounu that if the grand juries reft
ive a true bill and the petit juri<
use to convict that the State will
hange if venue. The fear of the
i the very best thing in the wor]
uppress crime. You can convi
oor man anywhere if he is unab
mploy counsel, but you cannot,
eneral rule, convict a man wh
bleto employ lawyers and fu]
lore to tamper with juries.
Mr. Talbert?Don't you think tl
lis provision obtains, and you
r A.X. t
len irum lueir nuuies, timu juu
lake enemies to the dispensary la
Mr. Bellinger replied t>y exprei
is confidence that the|power to ch
le place of trial wonld be pro]
sea by the judges.
BARKER AND BELLINGER.
Mr. Barker?Do you believe tt
lan carried from Charleston to
ugeburg county would have a
ial in a dispensary case, where
olitical sentiment is prejudiced ii
or of the dispensary?
Mr. Bellinger?Do you mean b
tical sentiment a sentiment to eni
le law at all hazards?
Mr. Barker?Do you think it w
e fair to take a man and carry
om a county which is in fav<
rnching and carrv him to a coi
rhere the political sense is again
Mr. Bellinger?Do you not be!
lat a man carried from Charlestc
dispensary matter would have a
ial in any other county of the S
Mr. Barker?I do not sir!
Senator Tillman ?Then is not
confession that he will not get ju
1 Charleston?
Mr. Barker?I am not making
jssion, sir.
Mr. Bowman?Can a violator o
ispensary get a fair trial in Cha
>n?
Mr. Barker?He may and he
ot. You have assumed that the i
nent in Charleston is such ths
innot get a fair trial.
Mr. Bowman?You have made
ime statement in regard to Ora
urg.
Mr. Barker?You have assumed
e could notget a conviction in Cha
maud want to carry him to a co
hereon account of political prejt
1 favor of the law hecan'tgetjus
Mr. liellinger?uo you mean u
lat a [man should be tried in his
)unty even if it is known that oi
junt of prejudice he is not goit
9 convicted.
Mr. Barker?Better let hini be
uitted then than to violate that
amental principle of American
Inglish liberty. You must not vi
le fundamental principles in ord
irry out the provisions of this la
ill you it will come back to you if
o. I sympathize with the sentir
lat has been raised against barro
ad am insofar in sympathy witl
ispensary law, but I do not syi
rize with these provisions of that
ad the manner in which it is exec
1 violating the fundamental princ
f American liberties in the matt
iarch.
Mr. Bellinger wanted to remov
npression that he and "Senator
ian had gotten together and con
1 this scheme to facilitate the enf<
tent of the dispensary law.
Mr. Barker had not intended t<
ugn any such motives to him.
THE AMENDMENT ADOPTED.
Mr. Johnstone's amendment
len adopted by a vote of 71 to 57.
MORE CHANGES.
Mr. Efird offered an amendi
hich would take away the rig!
iange the venue except in civil c
abled.
Mr. Stanyarne Wilson move
nend by providing that "the S
lall have the same right to mov
change of venue that a defen
as for such offences as the gei
isembly may prescribe."
Mr. Wilson spoke vigorously
lis motion, after Mr. Johnstt
Dint of order that it was the san
te proposition stricken out was <
lied.
Mr. Wilson argued for the dis
try law, speaking of the blind
iolations. This was simply to 1
le present act of the general asser
f force. Character was not invo
i dispensary cases. This was sir
> allow the convention to say wl
it would repeal the legislative a
ot.
Mr. Johnstone stated that this
mply threshing over old straw,
as simply fighting for the g:ei
rinciple in this matter. On his
p he had no fight to make on the
Ioto He wnntfid no rft
the barroom system.
SENATOR TILLMAN SPEAKS.
Senator Tillman then took the
ad after a few preliminary remj
lid: m
Mr. President?There is an evi
ill acknowledge, and that is thai
irtisan or political feelings of me
igard to this special law are i
lat they will not abide by their c
id renaer a verdict.
Mr. Johnstone?Let me ask y
uestion in that connection. W
ou violate your solemn oath oi
>unt of political partisanship?
Mr. Tillman?No, sir.
Mr. Johnstone?Why, then, w
ou expect other people to do so?
Mr. Tillman?I do not mean tc
ly myself as better than anybody
ut the proof is that the political
lg in Charleston County is such
iries? whether drawn honestb
- il 1 J U
ot?l ininK tney are cooKeu uj
rhiskey element and draw their ji
'om that element, will give no
ills. But let that stand for wlial
rorth.
I had great pains to keep the
ention from incorporating the
ensary in the Constitution absolu
If you do not want to see the
ensary law absolutely nullified
ave got to give the State som
ortunity to convict. Otherwise
ad as well strike it out.
Mr. Johnstone?The convention
ot by one vote do a thing and
y another do exactly the opp
bing. This gives the legislatur<
ight to provide for change of v
a cases of larceny, petty larceny
on, murder, breach of trust and (
ases. If the gentleman cannot
tie juries in the dispensary casi
lira distinctly say "in disper
ases."
Mr. Tillman?Will you accept
Mr. Johnstone?It is infinitely
erable to that other.
Senator Tillman?Will you agi
'offences against police regulatic
Mr. Johnstone?Oh! let's say
>cnsary cases" at once.
Senator Tillman?Then make
! su- quor cases.
[egis- Mr. Johnstone?I accept that. Iw
pused ask the gentlemen of the conventi
nder to pause and reflect. I am afraid tt
icon- he, too, (Senator Tillman) is son
has times a political partisan?a partis,
have of the dispensary law. I am afra
ise to that his zeal in this matter is causii
;s re- him to go too far. I say, in all kic
get a ness, that his zeal sometimes defeats
law own ends. Mr. President, you have
Id to give a community some time to f
ict .a commodate itself to a change of c
le to cumstances. Everything reconcil
as a itself. Let's give time?a little time
o is do perfect work. Let the "fullness
rther time do its work."
OTHER SPEAKERS.
iatif Mr. Meares made a strong spee
drag against the Wilson amendment. I
will concluded thus: "The proposed rei
w? edy, Mr. President, is mjch woi
3sing than the disease, the cure than t
ange bite. Let us trust to the kindly infl
jerly ences of time and the right?which t
disDensarv is?will prevail. Do n<
gentlemen, adopt?this measure unlc
lat a you wish to inflict a vital blow up<
Or- that system."
fair Mr. Johnstone then once more e
i the plained hi? attitude on the dispensa
n fa- law in relation to this question. Th
were charging that he did not wa
ypo- the dispensary law enforced. The la
Force was being enforced and it would
better enforced as the years roll
ould round. He renewed the motion to L
him on the table, but withdrew to let M
>r of Sligh speak.
inty Mr Sligh said he could see no gost
it? reason why any man should oppo
lieve the Wilson amendment. Wl
>n on shouldn't they leave it to the legisl
, fair ture, which would be composed of
tate? good men as this convention.
Mr. Johnstone then renewed 1:
that motion to table the Wilson amen
stice ment. Lost?yeas 59, nays 72.
The Wilson amendment was th<
con- adopted and clinched.
OTHER AMENDMENTS.
f the Gov. Sheppard offered the followii
irles- as an addition to the section:
"Provided that in no criminal ca
may shall a change of venue be made wit
sent- out a recommendation of the grar
it he jury of the county in which the crir
was committed."
i the Mr. Henderson offered this subs
rage- tute:
"Provided, however, that no chan
that of venue shall be granted in crimin
irles- cases until after a true bill has be
unty found by the grand jury; and provid
idice further, that if a change be orden
itice. it shall be to a county in the same j
> say dicial circuit."
own Mr. Henderson spoke most earne*
a ac- ly and forcibly in favor of his amen
ig to ment.
Pending the debate the Conve
! ac- tion took its usual recess untill 1
fun- night.
and The night session was taken up wi
olate the debate on Mr. Henderson's subs
erto tute.
w. 1 The principal speeches were ma
you by Senator Tillman and Mr. Barke
nent The motion to table Mr. Hendersoi
oms, substitute was lost?yeas 63. nays (
1 the The substitute was then adopted,
iipa- Mr. Patton offered the following:
law "Section 7. No injunction or oth
:uted civil process shall be issued at the st
iples of the State, for the prevention of ai
er of act which, by the Jaw of the lan
constitutes a crime."
e the (The evident purpose of this amen
Till- ment was to stop the issuing of i
coct- junctions to forbid persons to sell
orce- quors.)
On motion of Mr. Stanyarne Wilsi
) iin- this section was tabled?yeas 53, na
47.
Mr. Patton moved to reconsider tl
was vote.
Pending debate on that vole, t
Convention adjourned.
nent The morning session wss taken \
[it to *n the discussion of Mr. Pattor
ases. amendment. It was finally reject
by a vote of 95 nays to 37 yeas.
^ to The article was then ordered to
3tate third reading.
e for Our Industrial Progreaa.
riant Tha rinl nmhia onwAsnnnHpnt. nf t.l
leral News and Courier says the report
the Secretary of State will show a wo
r on derful advance in the State industrij
>ne1s ly. Complete extracts"cannot now
le as given, but enough is given to make
>ver- most agreerble showing to the peop
of "the State. The report will she
pea- thatchartei.j were issued this year
corporations with an aggregatecapil
eave stock of $5,267,700, against $2,910,7
ably for 1894. In other words, the capit
lved invested in industrial enterprises i
oply the State for the year ending Octob
leth- 3i? 1895, was more than twice
ctor much as was so invested f
the year ending October 3
was 1894. There has been a wo
He derful increase in cotton manufactu
leral ing enterprises, and the figures giv<
hon- will surprise even those who ha
1 dis- been watching the development of tt
turn industry. In 1894 five cotton man
facturing enterprises were charter*
in the State, with a capital sto<
floor amounting to $465,000. In 1895 twe
irks ty cotton manufacturing enterpris
' were chartered, with a total capitals
1 we tion of $2,765,000. Six times as mm
t the money was invested in cotton man
ill ill laciuring in J.o?o, as was au iiiv caw
such *n 1894. This does not include tl
>aths capitalization of those mills now u
der process of organization, or rath
ou a those to which commissions only ha1
ould ^en issued- The figures given apu
a ac. only to those which have been reguis
ly chartered, nearly every one
which is now in operation or is in pi
ould cess of building. While no compar
tive data are at hand it is safe to a
, ar_ that South Carolina will again be tl
else banner State in the matter of incres
feel', ing her cotton manufacturing faci
that ties. The above facts are very enco
j or and shows that there is li!
, and plenty of it, in the old land y<
uries ^e look for still greater progress
true the next few years.
t it is Shot Dead l>y 11 Hoy.
Covington, Ga., Nov. 8-?A youi
con- negro named Isaiah Green, and
dis- young white boy started huntin
tely. When about two miles from Covin
dis- ton they passed the house of Ruf
you Poison, colored, who with his wi
e op- was pickilig cotton. Green made
you remark to Poison's wife that she toi
exceotions to and informed her hi;
can- band who was near by. Poison f<
4V>svvft 1 d ^ AM/1
t lie Li lUWtJU UK3 twu uvya auu. U?guu\
osite them. He threatened to whip G-re<
i the whereupon Green shot him dead ai
enue made his escape. The coroner's ju
r, ar- returned a verdict of voluntary ma
ither slaughter.
trust
ag A Had Day for Democracy.
^sary Washington, Nov. 0.?In the el<
tions held last Tuesday in the States
that? ^ew York, New Jersey, Kentuck
pre! Maryland and several others the Ii
publicans carried most of them, c
ee to feating the Democracy badly in mai
>ns?" heretofore strong Democratic Stat<
"dis- ^ was certainly a bad day for Demc
racy, and insures the Republicans t
^ if. next President.
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iU MR. HENDERSON'S PLAN.
on
lat THE CONVENTION REJECTS HIS PROie"
POSED ORDINANCE.
an
iid
Mr. Connor, of Orangeburg, Submits Adid
other Measure to I'ut Counton a Cash
its
to na8,s*
}c* Columbia, Nov. (J.?Special: When
V*' the convention was through with the
suffrage article, it resumed the con 9
sideration of Mr. D. S. Henderson's
ordinance to authorize the issue of
State bonds to enable the counties of
, the State to dp business on a cash baj
sis.
The convention had passed a greater
part of the section, and the consid??
eration began on Section 5, on which
Mr. Henderson offered the following
amendment: Provided, that the Gen.
eral Assembly may authorize the conl~l
tracting authorities of any county to
contract deots by unanimous vote to
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original section reads:
x* Section 5. That on and after the
time when the State Treasurer shall
have paid into the respective county
Zi treasuries the proceeds of the bonds as
r: provided for aforesaid, all contracting
officials of their respective counties,
whether for ordinary county expenses
J or for school purposes, shall be held
responsible for all contracts entered
* into by them over and above the cash
they have to their credit to meet the
same, and their official bonds are hereJ
by declared bound for the same.
~~ Mr. Johnstone thought the section
was going too far. The intention
seemed to be to put a permanent prini
ciple in an ordinance- However correct
it may. be in principle it was
wrong to put such an idea in an ordinance.
Mr. Sheppard said the more he
v looked at and considered the ordinance
? the less favorably was he impressed
with it. There is much danger in the
v whole scheme, it is cumbersome and
j" unnecessary. He moved to indefinitely
postpone the whole matter.
Mr. Henderson, of Aiken, said that
after amending the ordinance it was
proposed to kill it. It was a crying
evil that the counties were not allowed
to conduct their business on a cash
en basis. There was a great evil that it
e(j was intended to remeay. The plan is
^ as simple as it can be made. If this is
ju. not simple then let something better
be proposed/ It was better to issue
5j._ bonds than to have the counties loaded
down with debt- It is a notorious
fact that the counties have to borrow
n_ money at 7 and 8 per cent., and per-q.
haps more. This ordinance applies to
this special evil, and if the principle is
j.^ correct it can be put in the constitulti_
tion. The idea is to put a permanent
check on county officers. Thejmode of
remedy is simple, but he was ready to
T accept anything better.
Mr. Jeremiah Smith, of Horry, ob 0
jected to the ordinance because he re-'
garded it as unsound business policy.
MR. CONNOR'S PLAN.
er Mr. Connor was opposed to the orjit
dinance and favored raising the mon3y
ey by special levy, and offered the fol(j
lowing as a substitute:
' "That the General Assembly shall
L(j_ provide for an annual tax levy not to
n_ exceed one-half of oqe mill in each
]j. county not now on a cash basis. The
proceeds of all such levies shall be
3n used as a sinking fund for each and
ys every county in which it is levied and
collected, and invested as the General
^3 Assembly shall direct until an amount
sufficient shall have been collected to
put such counties on a cash basis.
theh such annual levies shall cease."
ip He went on to say that in Orangejfg
burg the schools had been gotten on a
ej cash basis in this manner. His idea
was to make it mandatory.
a Mr. Gage, of Chester, was satisfied
that the whole principle of both ordinances
was wrong. It was purely a
matter for the counties to settle. The
&e remedy must come from the people
?f themselves and unless the people at
home have the ability and courage to
manage their own affairs we cairt do
&e so at mis end of the line.
1 a Mr. Johnstone said that those who
took the new bonds would take them
>w on the understanding that the existing
to conditions as to issuing new bonds
a* would be carried out. It would, he
00 thought, be bad faith to issue new
^ bonds in face of the understanding
ln with those who now hold the present
er bonds.
35 Senator Tillman said the evils of the
or present system ought to be apparent
to everyone. The teachers and juryn'
men as well as the counties were being
ir" forced to lose money by this arrange}n
ment. Some men. he thought, were
shying from bugaboos that did not
lls exist. It could be fixed that the State
should never assume the indebtedness.
The convention can do what it pleases.
We are the people. The counties cann"
not borrow at less than 7 or 8 per
es cent.
There was then a running debate
between Senator Tillman, Mr. Johnu"
stone, Mr. Talbert and Mr. Geo. D.
2d Tillman.
116 Dr. Smith, of Barnwell, said that in
a" his county they were paying from 8 to
er 16 per cent, on county paper.
Mr. D. S. Henderson: "The ordiv
nance does not ask the State to pay
ir" any county debt- It simply asks for
of the loan of credit to get money cheap ?"
ly. For ten years members have been
a" trying to get the Legislature to provide
for a special levy for a sinking
ie fund to get the counties out of debt,
J?" out it was always an appeal in vain.
It is urged that if we lend credit now
}** it will be beginning a bad precedent,
j?' The State brought about this condition
by extending the time for paying
in taxes in 1877. As to it not being good
faith with the present bondholders,
the lawyers of the bondholders should
ig have advised their clients that a cona
vention could increase bonded indebtg.
edness. Such an increase would have
g- no affect on the market. The credit of
us the State was good and could not be
fe affected by a small increase that
a would be readily taken. The conven
ok tion can provide that every county
is- will be protected against any additionjl
al taxes."
3k Mr. J. D. Montgomery, of Marion,
en said that the ordinance was simply to
ad catch up with the y<?ar that had been
ry lost. The trouble in his county was
n- that county papers had to be sold at
from 75 to DO per cent. The State must
help the counties or they must be allowed
to help themselves. We have
;c" not gone in debt. We were forced in
of it.
y? Mr. G. D. Tillman: "How is it and
je" why is it that Lexington and Horry
Ie and Abbeville are out of debt? Ought
iy not all to be treated alike?" He had
J3* heard of no counties having a misfor|c'
tune except Charleston with the earthhe
quake.
Mr. Montgomery: "We only want
\
the State's credit and will place our
mortgage in the State's hands. He
had no idea of asking the State or any >
other county to pay the debts of his
county. One trouble is that members
want to go home with a good record
and do not want to have a larger tax
levy than the year before."
Mr. Sheppard called for his motion
to indefinitely postpone the section,
and the yeas ana navs were demanded.
The vote resulted: Yeas 57, nays 53So
the ordinance was killed.
At the night session Mr. Connor offered
his plan in the shape of a formal
ordinance. It was properly referred. "
INTERESTING FIGURES.
The Taxable Property and Poll Tax of
each County.
The following table, which will appear
in the report of the Comptroller
General, shows the total amount of all
taxable property in the State given by
counties:
Abbeville $ 6,920,790
Aiken 5,960,541
Anderson 6,613,611
Barnwell 6,452,555
Beauforf. 3,542,539
Berkeley 5,205,066
Charleston 20,506,872
Chester 3,766,228
Chesterfield 1,472,840
Clarendon 2,579,450
Colleton 4,368,410
Darlington 3,768,781
Edgefield 6,252,090
Fairfield 3,632,825
Florence 3,353,411
Georgetown 2,012,005
Greenville 6,798;765
Hampton 2,289,497
Horry 1,550,571 Kershaw
2,803,520
Lancaster 1,993,666
Laurens 4,209,778
Lexington 3,429,120
Marion 4,323,407
Marlboro 2,629,310
"NTotttI -? <" nnn
*'vrr why ? OOjDOO
Oconee 2,700,844 ;
Orangeburg 6,769,486
Pickens 1,932,148
Richland 7,393,352
Spartanburg 11,170,236
Sumter 6,220,470
Union 3,144,150
Williamsburg 2,728,033
York 6,230,390
Total $169,449,251.
The following table gives the total
State taxes assessed against each county
in the State:
Abbeville $ 31,143 .
Aiken 26,822
Anderson 29,761
Barnwell 29,036
Berkeley 23,422
Beaufort 15,941
Charleston 92,280
Chester 16,948
Chesterfield 6,627
Clarendon 11,607
Colleton ..???. * ? 19,657
Darlington 16,959
Edgefield 28,134
Fairfield 16,347
Florence 15,090
Georgetown 9,056
Greenville 30,594 -
Hampton 10,302
Horry... 6,977
JfprshaTu 19 HI IS
Lancaster 8,971
Laurens .. 18,944
Lexington 15,431
Marion 19,455
Marlboro 11,831
Newberry 21,301 . jj
Oconee 12,153
Orangeburg 30,462
Pickens.. 8,694
Richland.... 33,271
Spartanburg 50,256
Sumter 29,992
Union 14,148
Williamsburg 12,276
York 27,991
Total $762,315
The following table gives the poll
tax collected in each county in the
State for 1895.
Abbeviile $4,583
Aiken 4,440
Anderson 5,143
Barnwell 5,548
Beaufort 4,497
Berkeley 5,646
Charleston 9,959
Chester 3,151
Chesterfield 2,522
Clarendon . 3,651
Colleton 5,455
Darlington 4,352
Edgefi&d. 6,319
Fairfield 4,021
Florence.... 2,737
Georgetown.... 2,808
Greenville 5,567
Hampton 2,283
Horry 2,578
Kershaw 3,171
Lancaster 2,408
LaurensN. 5,047
Lexington 3,350
Marion 3,011
Marlboro 3,021
Newberry 3,713
Oconee 2,270
Orangeburg 5,901
Pickens ...? 2,103
Richland ...5,175
Spartanburg ..... 8,892
Sumter 7,084
Union 3,077
Williamsburg - 3,164
York 5,931
Total ,$251,165
Tie In Kentucky.
Louisville, Nov. 8.?The Evening
4-Vk/v mamawaI arinArrtV*1 xr rtf
i uau sajo buu Kcuuai atugiuvij vi
Kentucky will be a tie when it meets
and the election of a successor to Senator
Blackburn is a matter of conjecture,
the Democrats having 68 votes
and one Democratic populist vote,
making 69. The Republicans will
have 68 and one Republican alliance
vote, making a total of 69. The Republicans
claim that Lieutenant-Governor
Worthington will have the decisi
vevote thus insuring themthe senatorship.
this is an error, as the lieutenant
governor as presiding officr of the senate
cannot vote in joint ballot. Hon.
John W. Yokes, chairman of the state
central committee, todav announces
that he will not be a candidate.
Populism Will Disband.
Chicago, Nov., 8.?A special to the
Record from Indianapolis, Ind., says:
"The indications are that within the
next month the popunsi parcy orgamzation
in this State will disband. The
msn who have been carrying on the
agitation four have about decided that
there is no future for the party in this
State, and that they might as well
abandon it. A. E. Cumming, the secretary
of the committee, has tendered
his resignation. The old members
will, it is said, follow the example set
by the secretary. The men who have
been laading the party here say they
have information that the executive
committee or the national committee
have decided to resign."
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