The Lancaster news. (Lancaster, S.C.) 1905-current, February 13, 1914, Page 2, Image 2
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Cross-Examined by Dr. S
He Knew Nothing Agj
Her From St'
The State.
Following is the official stenogra
lc report of the cross-examination
T. R. Carothers, M. I)., chairman
the board of regents, by Eleanora
Saunders. M. D., the young worn
who Is employed as an assistant pt
slcian at the Stuto Hospital for t
Insane:
Dr. Saunders: What county are y
fro?Yorkvllle? A. Yorkvllle.
Q. You are ehairman of the hou
of regents? A. Yes. ma in.
Q. Do you feel that an honor?
Yes. ma'ni.
Q. Isn't it your opinion that t
physicians in the institution work
harmony with the doctors in t
State? Don't you think the doctor
the State should know his own p
tient even if he has gone to a he
pltal? A. I haven't thought it w
necessary.
Q. As chairman of the hoard
repents what do you know of n
abllltv? \. I don't know.
IN WOMEN'S WARDS.
O How many visits have you nia<
t' ugh the women department?
Four.
(-i. Ilow many with me? A. One
two.
Q. Ilow far did we go? \. We we
through three or four wards
(). The ground tioor of the ma
building, didn't we? V I don't kno
Q. We left three and went when
To the white male employes' dinii
room? A. Yes. ma'ni.
Q. From there to the white ma
patients' dining room? A. Yes. m'a
Q Hadn't you been told that I we
out of my ward to do other work?
A. I dou't know.
Q. Don't you think you might ha
then told me you aian i wnni rap
do It? I couldn't make you fe
badly.
DINT EXrCT INQUIRY.
Q Do you think that Is worse thi
this? A. I didn't export this.
Q. Did you know there was
breach between me and Dr. Thom
son? A. I didn't know except fro
hearsay.
Q. What have you been told that
have done which was not in my on
department? A. Charges, Dr. Saui
dors, that were made before 11
meeting the other day over at tl
hospital. In your presence.
Q. Who told you? A. Dr. Thorn
son. Dr. Griffin, Dr. Blackburn ar
Dr. Toole.
Q Dr vou teel my work at tl
hospital has been for the good of tl
place".' A. 1 do.
Q. Den t you believe the usefu
ness of !.n\ employe Is the extent
her or hir own ability? A. Co i'dr.
l>c 01 ll?T >\ I SO.
Q. Was there any objection at tl
time I was doing the work did th?
object at the time I was doing tli
work? A. I don't know just when tl
time was they complained. I onl
know tlie ohjctions came to me {
mentioned, but just when they cam
I don't know.
Q. Ho you know when 1 made tli
Improvements in the white male dii
Ing room? A. The mouth I don
know.
Q. You have visited hospitals i
other cities? A. Yes. ma'm.
Q. Where have you been on yo\
trips? A. The first hospital I bellei
was Norristown, l'a.
Q. Did you visit the men's or won
an's wards In Norristown? A. Dot!
Q. Do you know the line of sciei
tiflc work done In State hospitalsyou
are a physician? A. Yes. ma'i
/ *. "WHAT IS INSANITY?"
i~ (). What is Insanity? A. I couldn
give you a definition.
Q. Can you give me the causes? j
There are many causes.
Q. The present day idea, there ai
three causes of Insanity (causi
named) ?
Q. Have you seen in my departmei
that I have attempted to do any moi
than is done in any other hosplta
A. So far as to your department,
have only been there a few times.
Q. How long have you been regeni
A Less than two venrs.
Q. How many times have you he<
executive regent? A. Every ft
months.
Q Have you been m my depai
ment? A. Yes ma'm.
(}. Have l ever auempieu m <
env more in every respect In my d
pari meat than in other departemt
in other hospitals? A. I could n
tell what you have done.
Q Han there ever been any op<
breach between me and Dr. Thom
Hon? A. 1 didn't know of any un
complaint* began to come.
Q. Was the letter read there by I
Thompflon a surprise to you? A.
don't know.
Q. It was a surprise to me. Hav<
ever failed to belp Dr. Tbompso
Q. Perhaps as chairman of t
board of regents? how much op
antagotsm between me and the oth
officers was there? A. I only km
their statements.
Q. You have a right to accept th?
statements whether they be true
not?
ACCEPTED ALL STATEMENT!
A. I could not do otherwlso th
accept your statement or theirs eltt
Q. Did you accept my statement
the 12th of December? A. Y
ma'm.
Q. Does the record show it? A
think so.
Q. Will you tell rae how I sup
ceded Dr. Thompson? A. Only in t
way they told you.
Q. They never told me at all.
I never have said you superced
them.
Q. Why did you act on the reso
tion which displaced me? A. I acl
on the evidence gtvon.
THE LANCASTI
0 character.
[ r)/l/|'fY)/7f1 Q- ,)o you think and still sa
I lCI.lt / / ICJ. I I there has never been any reil
on my moral character throuj
j y T regents or by the regents? A.
ves to be Vague Q. Hftve you heard letters b
O Blease read two letters on tin
of December? Will you geni
let me make a statement?
lau nders, Dr. Carothers Admits Mr. Mauldin: You examin
, , . _ . and make vour stnt?iuent u 'i
in>Ft Her But Voted to Oust the stand.
iff Kpprthplpq* Dr* Saunders: Q Do y?u thl1
in, ix eeruiclcsa. gave mv father a fair hearing <
Q. 1.1,1 you know that evidence wae t?orJ\" oT
true? A. I could not douht the evl- Se" ,8d d
v dence was true. ~ ? ,, ? ,
of Q. Have you any reason ^ believe December, which was turne<
B tl"Were*they sworn? A. I think so. *u.'vo^,-1?call&i t^ di<1 rTt mv'
. Q- They we're not? A. ^.^1^- '!?,
ly- '"'J10 . t a t to' A. I think the board did.
h? nivself!?Ver made a'iy SUCU Cbarg? wu* Emitted?" A^That" S5o
ou 11 Q. May I ask this: When that evl- dePrtves him.
. i denee was brought out, wasn't it your HEST TO DROP MATTE
j duty to look into it and see who was , ,
A I right and who was wrong? A We h< , , J f
jhuvo looked into it by that evidence. t.OIlt>erJed und everybody con,
he I V V"}' now t hat evidence was concerned, it was bet
in i true? A I only know because the , closed.
hp parties who testified were truthful Q lf u ,l;u, beon your da,
'n Q. Couldn't you have looked into J 1* J haV6 had tt 0,0WH
^ these specific statements? A. I could q ,/on.'t you th|nk n ,)eU
as | ... i.i . any rumor of that kind to be o
I Q Will you tell me what depart- , lnvestlKttted? A. r ncv,.r
of ment has I r. Qriffln? A. \ es ,na m f rum*rs.
iv ' r;: ne i} Didn't Gov. Please's lett
" 11 (. ,m r?a nr" l5r,ffln8 Ward? A" dicate it? A I did not think
Dr DrillIn said so q y?u ,still say there was n?
. Mr. Mauldin: Kindlv confine vour , . .. ,, ; , .
le .... ,. done l?v or through the regent
. < \amlnation to questions. . ,. , ... , .
A. ... . i I. , . " 1 " as I know I do.
Dr. (a rot hers: 1 only have what .. , ,. . . , . . , ? ....
....... , ... ,. o now did vou consider Mr.
Mr. t.nlliu said on his examination. ... ., *. v.
or ... , , i tin s n marks. A. No. meaning
Mr s-Hinders: Have vou < vcr no- .. ,. , .
, ... ' 'I wa- a Im pure and simp
. ice<l unvthing vou coil ( call dis- 1
tit . . , .. . ... , x was most unfortunate.
lo\ il to Mr. Its brock A. No. .. . , . , . .?
. . . . . .. Q. Ion know what he said? .
Q. Mo vou know I have been ill ,. i i i . i
in . ., . ... , , , x. the words 1 don t remember,
lovallv to Mr. Hainan k? A. No. .... ,,,,,
iv. -,x i, .... - i.i Hit. I.UIrllNs Kh MAKh
? I) o Mr. I ho i psu ? A. 1 know ? .... ....... ,
>? * , ,, . ' . . (). What was the baring <
nothing at all about that. , ? rr>i ? <
ig ,x A . 1. i .i words? A. The question was ,
Q. Can vou tell where there was , . . ,, ,,, . .
. , , * i o * i. him bv Gov. Ill ease as to wheth
, want of harmonv here? A. It was .. ... ? .... ? ... , .
le . . .. . rt: Saunders was a married or
between the staff.
Q. Where was that want of bar- (Vxia.V.'. . ,, , ... ? t*- .
nt moiiy? A. That want of harmony T ?
was in the staff. You sem to have s' n' vv ht? v..r,Pfttn?
_ the idea that there was want of bar- . , 9 ^ 5 ^ ^ ^!
J1 was in the staff. You seem to have . * 'niiooriiortt d?t not J
io. and somebody. Where the bourd of Ihi'T in it i wonii not l? ?l
"",r" haS be"" ofe??e at lT Ot conr? yo.
no want of harmony. ' nrtvitoff'o
Q. You told the gentleman a while 0 tVl?#
. .... t ta i .. _ (.J. Didn t Dr. Grifnn that d
in n Im v!1,? to ^^^o^nJ answer to that question, whetl
P lV h r ' a tJ IT g~ "o* 1>r Saunders was a single of
* n Invitnri I? ah a Tho hn ph r1od woman?didn't Dr. Grifll
P- r^oJint board ,.pht |a supp08(,d to be?? A
m ? n ,,,h ? no\, , the words. 1 did not conslde'
V QT noV y derogatory at all. Dr. Qriffln 1
I 7,'^. "^,7... . * j ... iliateiy p<" oniy in woran, uui?
r?| Q- Wh? did- A. I don t know. v, hen you showed you were hi
n_ , 7?}* think It hardly Possible the remah he at once apol<
^ ho would have left his business to si-,( p'.y nnd humbly, and aske
le co1m.p h?ro atu' desert me at the most jt 0 on (^p rpCord that i* v. ?*r. s
,e critical moment? A. I don t know. a {U ,r , thought ho mpan
Q. Have you ever doubted my woll|(, not ,.tand for ,t x dld
i:l Never. think he meant anything at a
Q. Not even on the 1-th of Decern- (; will ycu have the record
1P hor. A. Never did. fstrVen?on: We have n
' -1 Q. Do you know the evidence (.pjvpd it |
l:> brought against me that day was |)r rarothers: 1 don't kno
, (true? A. I only know what was words
" stated by others, not by personal nr Saunders: That's all.
1 knowledge.
' Q. Will you tell how I prevented M't HAi NDRIlS INTRUVKN
1 Dr. Blackburn from doing his work? Tho f,,iioxving is the stenogi
v A. I only know what Dr. Blacburn r,,p0rt of the cross-examlnatlo
L ... Dr. Carothers by O. I.. Sai
p 1 Q ^ hat . the extent of work I father of Dr. Saunders.
have done in the hospital? A. The Mr Sandprs; if i Went out
> only thing 1 know in connection with own volition. 1 could not have f
1 .the whole affair as far as that part t|,prp-?
j goes is from the physicians them- nr. Carothers: So far as I wa
ie 8<>'ves- sonally concerned.
,J A I. LOT M KNT OP WORK. Q- Didn't 1 appeal to you as
. . .. . , man of that meeting If I could
. Qi 1 '! 1 ,y?U th nk as ^airman of A Ym, askp(, for the pr|vl|ege
'the board of regents you should make main and , Ravp you my ron8t
n .yourself acquainted with everything? far a, , waK pprsonaiiy conc<
.r * ??%e in u When I looked up you were
I Q; ? vou he eve you could sue- w| , do t k j do not
1 jcessfully accomplish work unless you v,.t
I nail toe nearly cooperation or every- q That's all
l-.Lody concerned? A. No. w
h- j Q. Don't you feel when you tell Dr. "
Babcock about Improvements that it For who RO down to Th
? should be done? A. I do. ln
m Q. You feel he Is your superior of- Christian Herald
fleer? A. I do not. We are on equal ..w<> p,rk up an g 0 g m(
.. , . A about once a week on the avei
t Q. Do you know I have refused to the opprator explained. "The
do any work Dr. Babcock has asked jjr onjy hears of the hurry ca
of me? A. No, I do not. pasBonK^r Htoamers. E
| Q. Have you ever let out the work or RO a b,R ,luer romes to
re for the different departments? Have an(, thftm. of (.ourse tbft neUliI
?s you ever defined the work for the arf. fu? of ,t Rut the wirol^m
'white female department? A. No. an immense service the genera
it Q. Do you know whether it is cus- novor hears of
re | torn a ry In hospitals to let out this -only yesterday we had two
1? work? A. I don t know it is. g calls. One came froYn a fre
1 Q When you said in your resolution oft roa^( of ,jabra(tor. He
there that you thought it was for my fhlnery broken down an
t? best Interest to dismiss the whole vaa , r.ftinr- We notified her o
matter you said that. A. Yes. and a rff|jef 8hip was off in no
MORAL CHARACTER FIRST. We always have an ear open
Q. Do you think a professional code '^socores of wireless stations
t- or a woman s moral character should th entJrfi M.aboan, the alert
mean more to her? A. I would an- watch d and n, ht for
lo swer the question by Raying the moral fateful meMage. It Is this sle
* vigilance that has robbed the <
i - - so many of it dangers and d?
ot I much for the safety of the v
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