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Iraqis fearful, curious of Saddam’s POW status
BY HAMZA HENDAWI
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
BAGHDAD, IRAQ —Iraqioffi
cials expressed fears Saturday
that a Pentagon decision to de
clare Saddam Hussein a prisoner
of war will prevent them from
putting the ousted dictator on tri
al. The international Red Cross,
however, said POW status does
not preclude a war crimes prose
cution.
U.S. officials in Baghdad sought
to assure Iraqis that no deal was
made to keep them from trying the
' ousted dictator for war crimes and
crimes against humanity.
Iraq will have a “substantial
leadership role” when the former
Saddam faces justice, said Dan
Senor, a spokesman for the U.S.
led occupation authority.
“There is no need for concern
by anybody because the ultimate
designation (of Saddam’s status)
will be determined down the
road,” Senor told a news confer
ence Saturday.
On Friday, a Pentagon
spokesman, Maj. Michael Shavers,
said the Defense Department’s top
civilian lawyers have determined
that Saddam — held in U.S. cus
tody and under CIA interrogation
since his capture last month — is a
prisoner of war because of his sta
tus as former commander in chief
of Iraq’s military.
POW status under the Geneva
Conventions grants Saddam cer
tain rights, including access to vis
its by the International Committee
of the Red Cross and freedom from
coercion of any kind during inter
rogations.
In Geneva, Ian Piper, a
spokesman for the international
Red Cross, said handing Saddam
over to the Iraqis for trial would
not conflict with the 1949 Geneva
Conventions on the conduct of
warfare, as long as he is granted
due process.
It is up to the United States, as
Iraq’s occupier, to determine how
Saddam is to be tried, Piper told
The Associated Press.
“The status means that he’s
recognized as a formal combat
ant and therefore cannot be ac
cused for having waged war,”
“There is no need for
concern by anybody
because the ultimate
designation (of
Saddam’s status) will be
determined down the
road.”
DAN SENOR
ADVISOR TO THE U.S. PRESIDENTIAL ENVOY IN
IRAQ
Piper said. But he added that
Saddam’s prisoner of war status
“does not give him immunity
from accusations of crimes
against humanity.”
Piper said that national courts
have the power to try people who
break international war crimes
conventions. “It’s supposed to be
part of national law, and one
would expect the national law to
apply at the.end of the conflict.”
The Geneva Conventions say
that a POW can only be tried by
the same courts as a member of
the detaining country’s military
would be tried — a military
court, or a civilian court as the
law allows. The conventions
make no specific mention of war
crimes or crime against humani
ty.
Saddam’s capture brought a
sense of relief to many Iraqis who
suffered under his 23 years of iron
fisted rule. No Red Cross repre
sentatives have yet seen Saddam,
whom the United States says is
held in a safe location. Iraqi offi
cials say he is being held in the
Baghdad area.
The United States has said it
plans to hand Saddam over to the
Iraqis for trial. But that is not ex
pected to happen before sovereign
ty is handed back to an Iraqi gov
ernment by July 1, the date desig
nated for the formal end of the
U.S.-led occupation.
Saddam’s POW designation
raised concerns among many
Iraqis that it would keep him out
of an Iraqi court—and made some
suspicious that the Americans
want it that way.
“I am surprised by this deci
sion,” said Dara Nor al-Din, a for
mer appeals court judge and mem
ber of Iraq’s U.S.-appointed
Governing Council. “We still con
sider Saddam a criminal, and he
will be tried on this basis. This
new move will be discussed thor
oughly in the Governing Council.”
Another council member,
Mahmoud Othman, said the
United States had no right to make
such a decision. “The Iraqi people
want Saddam to be tried for his
crimes in accordance with the
Iraqi law. Iraqis want to know the
parties which helped Saddam to
commit,those crimes and to pos
sess weapons of mass destruc
tion,” he said.
Iraq’s justice minister, Hashim
Abdul-Rahman, called the
Pentagon comments “mere views”
and insisted that Iraqis them
selves would determine Saddam’s
fate.
“The only thing I do know is
that Iraqi bodies will decide
Saddam’s status,” Abdul-Rahman
said. “We will determine his legal
status when the Iraqi authorities
take over this issue.”
Senor sought to play down the
significance of the Pentagon com
ments.
“It is a confirmation of what the
^United States government has said
all along and that Saddam Hussein
will be treated under the Geneva
Conventions until determined oth
erwise,” he said.
On the streets of the Iraqi capi
tal Saturday, some Iraqis specu
lated that the Americans were try
ing'to deny Iraq the chance to try
Saddam for fe|ir he would expose
secret contacts between
Washington and Baghdad, espe
cially during Iraq’s 1980-88 war
against Iran. The West provided
Baghdad with arms to prevent an
Iranian victory that would have
threatened Middle East interests.
Ibrahim al-Basri, a physician,
said he believed POW status was
part of “a bargain between
Saddam and the United States. ”
, “He handed them Iraq,” al
Basri said. “If the Americans
wanted to clone an agent to serve
them, they wouldn’t find a better
one than Saddam. He brought the
Americans to the Gulf, divided the
Arabs, destroyed Iraq and its
weapons, threatened Syria and
Iran.”
Fired Treasury secretary says U.S. planned Iraq war early
BY SCOTT LINDLAW
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
CRAWFORD, TEXAS - Former
Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill
contends the United States began
laying the groundwork for an in
vasion of Iraq just days after
President Bush took office in
January 2001 — more than two
years before the start of the U.S.
led war that ousted Saddam
Hussein.
“From the very beginning,
there was a conviction that
Saddam Hussein was a bad person
and that he needed to go,” O’Neill
told CBS’s “60 Minutes” in an in
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terview aired Sunday night.
The official American govern
ment stance on Iraq, dating to the
Clinton administration, was that
the United States sought to oust
Saddam.
But O’Neill, who was fired by
Bush in December 2002, said he
had qualms about what he assert
ed was the pre-emptive nature of
the war planning.
“For me, the notion of pre-emp
tion, that the U.S. has the unilat
eral right to do whatever we de
cide to do, is a really huge leap,”
according to an excerpt of the in
terview that CBS released
Saturday.
The administration has not
found evidence that the Iraqi lead
er was involved in the Sept. 11 at
tacks, but officials have said they
had to consider the possibility that
Saddam could have undertaken an
even larger scale-strike against
the United States.
White House spokesman Scott
McClellan would not confirm or
deny that the White House began
Iraq war planning early in Bush’s
term. But, he said, Saddam “was
a threat to peace and stability be
fore September 11, and even more
of a threat after September 11.”
“It appears that the world ac
cording to Mr. O’Neill is more
“From the very
beginning, there was a
conviction that Saddam
Hussein was a bad
person and that he
needed to go.”
PAUL O’NEILL
FORMER U.S. TREASURY SECRETARY
about trying to justify his own
opinions than looking at the reali
ty of the results we are achieving
on behalf of the American people,”
McClellan said in Texas, where
the president is staying at his
ranch.
O’Neill’s interview was part of
his effort to promote a new book
about the first half of Bush’s term,
“The Price of Loyalty,” for which
O’Neill was a primary source.
The administration began send
ing signals about a possible con
frontation with Iraq even before*
Sept. 11,2001.
In July 2001, after an Iraqi sur
face-to-air missile was fired at an
American surveillance plane,
Bush’s national security adviser
put Saddam on notice that the
United States intended a more res
olute military policy toward Iraq.
“Saddam Hussein is on the
radar screen for the administra
tion,” Condoleezza Rice said at the
time.
Yet Secretary of State Colin
Powell said in December 2001, af
ter the terrorist attacks in
Washington and New York, that
“with respect to what is some
times characterized as taking out
Saddam, I never saw a plan that
was going to take him out.”
According to the book by for
mer Wall Street Journal reporter
Roh Suskind, the Bush adminis
tration began examining options
for an invasion in the first
months after Bush was inaugu
rated.
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