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by Kevin Langston
Encore Editor
. Robert Fleming
Assistant Encore Editor
The following is a portion of an interview that was
broadcast live on WUSC as part of its coverage
of the Guided By Voices show Friday night at
the Elbow Room Music Hall.
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Kevin Langston; To my knowledge, you have nev
• er played in Columbia or South Carolina before.
Why now?
Robot Pollard; We have not been offered a show,
to my knowledge. We have a booking agent, and
we pretty much do what he says, so like... I guess
it’s time. The-time is now. Is there a good scene
down here?
Kevin: Oh, yeah. Well, it is when people like you
come around
“Bob”: Well maybe we never played here because
we heard Hootie and the Blowfish are from here.
Kevin: So what has touring for this album been
like?
Bob: It’s been good I actually have a new lineup.
Except for Doug [Gillard], Doug was in the last
lineup. But it’s been great.
We’ve been over to England three times, you
know, and we’re getting ready to go over to Japan
and Australia. So this is the most extensive tour
we’ve done for an album, in support of an album.
And so it’s really good. The camaraderie within
the band is really good right now, and I’m happy.
Kevin: What’s been the best part of touring for this
album?
Bob: The best part of touring? I’ve actually been
touring for the last six years now, so the best part
of touring is fielding the question “How’s Ric
Ocasek?” I guess. I get that asked everywhere I go.
Kevin; Well that’s going to happen in a little while.
Speaking of touring, the worst part of touring? I
heard that your van was broken into in New York.
Bob: Yeah, we had all kinds of good stuff in
there, records and everything. All they took was,
like, boxes of T-shirts, so it’s OK.
You’ve got to be careful, you’ve got to watch
New York. Do you ever get up there?
Kevin: Yeah. We just came back from there for
New Year’s. But there’s been a trend of people
stealing stuff. Jon Spencer lost some stuff on tour
and so did Son Volt.
Robert Fleming: So did Cibo Matto.
Bob: It happens all the time. We did a July 4th fes
tival with a bunch of bands, and Sonic Youth had
their whole bus stolen. And they’ve got like 50
guitars or whatever. So it can be bad. We just lost
a few T-shirts, so that’s not too bad.
Kevin: And the tour goes on. How important is
touring to you?
Bob: I used to think touring wasn’t that important,
but if you’re going to be a rock band, you should
show people what you look like and not just make
records.
It’s important to make records. To me, mak
ing a record is kind of the spiritual part of it, and
playing live it the physical manifestation of that.
You’ve got to play. You’re not a rock band if you"
don’t play live. And I know some bands don’t like
it.
I think it’s more important to make records,
but it’s also important to play live.
Kevin; That was, actually, where I was going with
the next question. How does your music carry over
from the studio to the stage?
Bob: Well, you know in the lo-fi four-track days,
it was two completely different entities. We were
this quirky, experimental low-fi band, and then,
live, we were this power band.
So now the two things have-come together.
The record sounds like we sound live. It’s finally
come together as one entity.
Kevin; “Do the Collapse” is a departure for Guid
ed By Voices. You’re under a new label, you’ve
got the big-name producer. With new members
and a new polished sounf, do you feel
the music naturally has evolved over
the life of the band, or do you feel
that those added factors helped in the
production of the album?
Bob: Yeah, from the beginning of Guid
ed by Voices, I always wanted to make
a big record. We just never had.
First of all, when we first start
ed, we actually went into big studios
and we weren’t successful in making a
good-sounding record, so that’s why
we kind of retreated into the basement
to do low-fi stuff. And finally it at least
sounded how 1 wanted the songs to
sound like in my head.
And so we pretty much ex
plored all the avenues and possibilities
of that, so we thought it was time to go
and make a big record.
We’ve kind of been teasing
with that for the last couple of records.
We’ve actually gone into big studios to
make records. Still, it was hard for me
Robert Fleming The Gamecock
Robert Pollard of Guided By Voices leaps above the stage in the early set of their show
Friday night at the Elbow Room. Pollard quickly showed fans that even a 42-year-old
rock star can put on a good show.
to let go of that four-track thing, so even though
most of the songs were recorded in big studios,
there were still sprinklings of four-track music.
Of course, now, this is our first full-fledged at
tempt at a big record. I think it’s a success, I
think Ric did a good job. It’s like... I can’t say shit
on the air, can I?
Kevin; You just did.
Bob: It’s like the line in “Echoes Myron”: “We’re
finally here, and shit, yeah, it’s cool.” It’s kind of
where we want-_
ed to be, and
we’re here now.
Kevin: How did
Ric get signed up
for the project,
and was he famil
iar with your ear
lier work?
Bob: Well, yeah.
It was a mutual
coming together. We were interested. Wfe had gone
out and spoken to Capitol, to the president there,
about making the record, and he said, “Yeah, we’ll
do it. Wfe’ll finance it, but you need to get a pro
ducer and make the record you’ve been capable of
making.”
And so at that time, we had to think about who
we were going to use as a producer. And I was
thinking Ric Ocasek because I liked some of the
stuff he had done. I liked the guitar sound on the
Weezer record. But at the same time, he had found
about us and was interested in working with us, and
I didn’t know that. So we came together and he
started doing sounds for us.
Robot This album was billed as the last great rock
album of the millennium. Was this your idea?
Bob: Yeah, it was my idea.
Rob: Do you think it’s justified?
Bob: Wfell, it was kind of a joke, you know. But I
think it’s justified. I think that there’s not a lot of
big classic-style rock out there anymore. There’s
like three categories of rock. There’s post
grunge, there’s metal rap and chick rock, and we’re
trying to carry the old style.
Rob: What are your thoughts on the music scene
of today? College and popular music.
Bob: Maybe it’s because I’m jaded or something
because I’m part of the industry and I see that it’s
'I used to think touring wasn't that important, but if
you're going to. be a rock band, you should show
people what you look like.'
Robert Pollard
Singer/Songwriter for Guided By Voices
not so glamorous. You know, being behind the
scenes and everything. I don’t think music is as
good as it used to be. I think it kind of ran its course
from 1967 to ‘79. That was the golden age of rock.
Obviously, when something is around for so
lojig it’s going to be hard to come up with origi
nal ideas. I don’t think people are so interested in
songwriting as they used to be. It’s kind of more
about style and image and thAt sort of thing.
Rob: In comparison with previous Guided By \bic
es albums, how do you think this album stacks up?
Bob: I think they’ll all different. They all have
their own personality. This is a differentrecord. In
hindsight, I don’t think it’s the best record, but it’s
not the worst, either.’
Rob: What’s your favorite recorcf'that you’ve re
leased?
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Kevin Langston The Gamecock
Pollard’s energetic on-stage performance fueled the
band and the Elbow Room’s crowd.