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USC stud By MICKEY TK1MARCIU Gamecock Staff Writer It typified the 162-year-old British collegiate tradition of public discussion and debating. Thursday night's British Union debate, in which two recent graduates of British universities and two USC students debated the issue "that this house would abolish the United Nations," combined logical arguments and audience participation in opposing the motion by a vote of 169 to 109. Favoring the motion were R. Victoria Schofield, a 1977 graduate i ? * I !nitrnrciftr and Don Drennon, a three-year member of USC's debating team. Leading the opposition was Phillip .Engleman, a 1977 graduate of University College of London and participant in four national competitions, and Beth Ferrell, also a member of the USC debating team for three years. Each debator is allowed to speak for about five minutes followed by a live-minute summary by each side at the conclusion of the speeches. "WE AKE not fundamental!} opposed to the United Nation's goals and purposes, we in fact agree with them," Drennon said "What we would like to suggest is that the United Nations has soughl to subvert the goals it sets down ir its own charter. What we are op posed to is a body that professes those goals but fails to live up t( them because of the influence ol inlr>rnnlinn?l nnujor lirnUnrc " cqu Drennon. Engleman, on the other hand c/ I ents, Britii quoted the UN charter as a viable reason for not abolishing the organization. "We, the people of the United Nations determine to practice tolerance and live together in peace with one another as good neighbors and secondly to unite ourselves to maintain international peace and security and to insure by the acceptance of principals and the institutional methods that armed force shall not be used, save in the common interest, and to employ international machinery for the promotion and advancement of economic and social advancement of all peoples," he said. "With those four lines, just Ihnsp fniif lirinc hmi' ran anvnna " "WV vu, ???" VWII MIIJVIIV i possibly want to vote against an organization that has these obI jectives?" I BOTH DRENNON and Schofield I stressed that, although they did not oppose world peace, they believed ; the UN was not effectively ac tuni|;iioiiiii^ uiu ^Udid didlCU III IU> i charter. "We want peace and we want international cooperation," - Schofield said. "What we are ; against is the United Nations that t has showed itself throughout its existence to be ineffective ac , lUIUIIlg IU mt: pillltipdlb fctil UUWI1 I in the United Nations charter." Drennon said the UN takes an > active role in stopping in) ternational conflicts in South f Africa, for example, by "mostly 1 slapping men like John Vorster and Idi Am in on the wrist and saving what nastv men thev are." Last year this < collected $10,000 in i then and we need you VROLINA C You can help r?Il l?v? n UUlUIIIUiUllO. VUiUillOt) TRANS to roasl \rnr rr v vyjju. HHHl The British Union Debate, h night at Capstone, considered a abolish the U.S. Participating "BUT AT least the UN provides a forum upon which people can get together and discuss the issues, Engleman said. "Even if you believe that the UN is the most corrupt, the most political, the most perverted organization in the whole world, it still holds out and doesn't close the door on the possibility of peace. That is a good reason for the UN to stay, even if we accept all that criticism. Following the speeches and prior to the voting of the audience, gar ft.'g & m Jr^a sr IT i n^j B18 jr O. Box 80061 University of South Carolina annual student sponsc joods and money. 500 r help now! ARES DAY make this Christmas < t your time - a few hou PORTATION PRi /olunteers treate t beef and tea at ] MTUI7D T L \ 1 JUjJLjII 1 777-2654 ebateon mB * W ^ eld Thursday were, left to rig resolution to Victoria Schofi in the debate of England. Pnolpman illllctrotoH thn HA^Arritu inuovi aiVU UIC 1 ?V/VtOOIIjr of opposing the House's motion with a quote from a conversation between former British Prime Minister Winston Churchill and playwrite George Bernard Shaw. In a letter from Shaw to Churchill, Shaw said, "Dear Churchill, enclosed find two tickets for the opening night of my new play. One is for yourself, the other is for a fripnrl if vnn haup imp " ? " J v A KETUltN letter from Chur Columbia, South Carolina 29208 777-26! >red Christmas projec o hirlnnfp trnliintnnrfi. L? tuuifi i to VUJUXUUOXDl DECEMBE I ft M a ongnt one for man rs or all day OVIDED iH Hardees Tin a v 1 JL [ U.N. * H' H \B >i. Britton Andrew THE GAMECOCK ;ht, Don Drennon of 'JSC and K. eld and Phillip Engleman, both chill to Shaw says, "Dear Shaw, I'm sorry I cannot attend the first night. Would you send me two tickets for your second night, if you have one." "Without tho United Nalinns there may not be a second night," Engleman said. The audience, which heckled they, speakers and each other as is encouraged by the rules of the debate, eventually opposed the House motion by voting not to abolish the UN. n ! >4 t i :ri y i I