The gamecock. (Columbia, S.C.) 1908-2006, December 07, 1970, Image 1
Radica
By MARGARET SWENBUED
\ad MICHAEL BALL
Staff Writers
'Editore Note: Radicals for
Capitalism, who have been
distributing leaflets on campus
and have been the subject of a
recent column in The Gamecock,
consented to an interview.
' Three male and three female
members came to The Gamecock
office--the women declined to
answer questions. identify
themselves, or be photographed.
They soid this was to protect their
jobs.
Two men, who collaborated on
their answers, wrote them out and
read them to the interviewers,
identified themtelves as Mike.
Oliver and David'Kennison, both
USC students.
The third man was said to be in
attendence "for security reasons."
The group requested that the
Interview be printed in question
and answer form so they would
"not appear to be babbling idiots"
and that the following statement
precede the article:
"Radicals for Capitalism for
mally protests the existence of The
Gamecock as an institution using
tax paid facilities and compulsory
student activity fees, instead of
literary merit, as its means of
survival."
Gamecock: Why is the dollar
sign the symbol of your
organization?
Radicals: We declare laissez
ils wva
fair. capitalism tOf be the only
soclo-fconomlc system to be
consistent with ob*sctive morality.
Objective moralitv holds that man
is not ameans to the ends of others
and he must live for his own sake;
neither sacriflring himself for
others or sacyrificing them for
himself.
Gamecock: How will your
laissez-faire capitalism operate
without a bureaucracy or
heirarchy?
Radicas-: Society wi& operate
under laissez-faire capitalism in
the same way the universe will
operate 'Without a legislature to
pass th" laws of physics and
without a police force to enforce
them.
Wo declare laissez-faire ca
ecorlomic system to be consis
Ra(Jicals for Capitalism
vGamecock: Why don't you use
siontaneous dialogue?
Radicals: We want the readers
'of the Gamecock to derive the most
benefit from this interview.
Careful and rational thought is a
lar better means to discover trutfi
than spontaneity.
Gamecock: Since you are ob
jectivists, how do you intend to
cope with forceful opposition,
physical or verbal?
Radicals: We are not ob
it end
jectivists but students of ob
Jectivism. Responses to verbal
opposition will be in kind; response
to physical opposition will be in
kind.
Gamecock: Isn't this spon
taneous reaction?
Radicals: In both cases
(physical and verbal) responses
will not be spontaneous but
carefully reasoned. Two examples
of spontaneous irrationality would
be; 1) the use of physical force in
retaliation for verbal attack; 2) the
use of verbal whimpering in
response to physical attack.
G'amecock: Do you condone the
actions of students who protested
the actions of the Board of
Trustees. in front of the Ad
ministration Building last May by
pitalism to be the only socio
tent with objective morality. --
entering and occupying the
building?
Radicals: We sanction all acts
which were rational, e.g., use of
retaliatory force in response to
physical force initiated by the
government.
Gamecock: How do you intend to
eliminate "statism" from the
world?
Radicals: Our task cannot be
accomplished just in this state,
university or just in this nation,
because no man can be totally free
o Stud
from statist oppression until
statism 'no longer exists in the
civilized world. Statist power is
only possible through the sanction
of the victims of statism. We,
through intellectual enlighten
ment, will eliminate that power.
Gamecock: What methods wil
you use?
Radicals: It is our urgent task to
achieve this Intellectual
awakening in time to avoid this
widespread use of physical force.
But, if this cannot be prevented, we
will couple our Intellects with
physical force.
Gamecock: If you deplore the
state so much why do you use the
most blatant symbol of the state -
a flag?
Radicals: Our flag is black,
which is the symbol of the absence
of the state, but it is marked with a
dollar sign to proclaim recognition
that order will be maintained by
the nature of reality.
Gamecock: How does sensual
pleasure-emotionalism fit into
your scheme of life?
Radicals: Sensual pleasure or
positive emotions are a rational
being's means of enjoying life.
Since the nature of one's emotions
is dependent upon one's hierarchy
of values, the more rational a man
is the deeper are his emotions and
the greater is his enjoyment of life.
Gamecock: 'Can or should
emotions be subjugated to reason?
.ent aci
Radicals: It is a fact of reality
that they cannot be. They are,
however, a response to one's value
judgements. Emotional responses
are not substitutes for thought but
are data in analyzing one's
hierarchy of values.
We hold that "Atlas Shrugge
written in the English languai
minds of others to find out "W
for Capitalism
Gamecock: In Ayn Rand's novel
"Atlas Shrugged" there is a plan to
withdraw the people who make
things work from society. Do you
intend to implement that plan?
Radicals: The "plan" in "Atlas
Shrugged" is not to be taken
literally. However, Atlas is
already shrugging in a sense. Note
the brain drain occurring already
in academic and government
circles. Reasonably, of course, an
intelligent individual cannot
achieve self-esteem through the
subjectivist premise which is
dominant in the humanities today.
Gamecock: How heavily do you
borrow from the works of Ayn
Rand?
Radicals: We do not borrow
from any works but seek truth in
objective reality through political
reading of Miss Rand's excellent
arguments which has hastened the
task of discovering a rational code
of ethics.
Ivity ff
Gamecock: Do you find her truth
viable for you?
Radicals: There is no such thing
as "her truth" or "our truth" but
absolute truth. We hold that "Atlas
Shrugged" is the greatest novel
ever written in the English
P" is the greatest novel ever
1e, creating a desire In the
so is John Galt". -- Radicals
language, creating a desire in the
minds of others to find out "Who is
John Gait."
Gamecock: You state that you
have been denied a charter as an
organization. Why?
Radicals: We were denied a
charter as a USC organization
because we refused to set up a
bureaucracy. We have no
president, no chairman, only
associates. We insisted on paying
rent for the use of physical
facilities to withhold sanction by
the victim. If this had been a
private institution we, would not
have insisted on renting the space,
but these facilities were built with
stolen money.
(;amecock: Since you oppose a
"statist" foundation of the
University in principal and capital,
what alternatives do you have for
an educational system?
Radicals: In a "free society" the
universities would be free in an
attempt to survive in any morally
justifiable form. Meet probably in
a University in a free society, there
would be no university ad
ministration. Instead, there would
be a landlord or landlords who
would rent the use of physical
facilities to totally professional
instructors, much in the way that a
lawyer or a medical doctor rents
his office space. Each instru6tor
would charge each student for his
teaching services at an individual
rate. There would be no diplomas
or grading system. Completion of a
course would be synonymous to
completing it successfully. The
only motivation for student par
ticipation would be the acquisition
of knowledge and thus the
enhancement of his worthiness to
live.
Gamecock: What are your short
range goals for the University?
Radicals: 1) End subsidy 6y
student activity funds of all student
organizations such as The
Gamecock, forcing them all to
profit or perish. 2) An end to the
student activity fee as currently
established. 3) Abolition of
prerequisite requirements of
courses. 4) Substitution of free
market alternatives to various
services on the campus, such as
the Russell House. We have a plan
for protesting university seizing of
activity fees, but for security
reasons we can not discuss it.
INS*
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'Radicals
in the foreground with t
identified only as "securit
Capitalism. In the middle I
Mike Oliver.
Stude
Editor's note: The United Stee
workers' Union at the Georgetow
Steel Company (a German own@
firm) is in the 16th week of a strik
for safer and better workin
conditions. The National Labe
Relations Board filed an Injunctio
Friday in federal district court I
enjoin the company for n(
negotiating with the union.
Staff writer Charles Fellenbaut
combined the events he covers
with those reported by Harry Hol
and Charles Beebe to report ti
strike as it relates to Caroli
students.
SMC held a rally on camp
'7hursday night which was brok
up by members of a group calli
"Radicals for Capitalism." T
rally was scheduled to reen
students for Saturday's march
Georgetown.
Approximately 30 strikii
steelworkers visited USC Frida
and were threatened by a Russ
House official with arrest I
trespassing and distibuti
leaflets in Russeil House.
guests of Rt elr ft
Student Mobilization Committ
and had been invited to Russ
House to recruit students for
march that was held Saturday
Georgetown.
Official university represi
tatives Mike Grier and B
ANexander met' with Fellers a
the steel workers in the Comme
Room for an hour to discuss thi
actions. It was determined that i
ryles had been broken.
Grier said that Uhe gust rul
for Capitalism'
he flag in his pocket is a man
y guard" for the Radicals for
5 David Kennison and finally is
nts re
pertaining to Russell House had
a been stretched or more liberally
d interpreted than intended by the
0 administration.
g Assistant Vice-president for
ir Student Affairs, Paul Fidler, later
said "I understand there is some
o rule but we haven't found it. We're
t still searching.
"There may be some unclear
ones. If so, they will be
d publicized."
0 A committee to review Russell
0 Housp policy met early last week.
a Fidler said that the committee
may make some changes because
is of the incident.
M The visitors were interviewed by
id the Gamecock. Estes Riffe, the
ie steelworkers' union representative
lit said that "the administration was
in trying to find some excuse to keep
us off campus and couldn't. Maybe
sg they'll change the rules next week.
my
mll "We're here to convince students
or that we have similar problems anl
ig can accomplish more by working
together. "
Id 'The Rev. Henry Johnson is a
lie labor union worker. "We are
se concerned with safety and
mil - pollution problems," he said
a "This is not a strike for highes
in wages-this is an 'unfair labor'
strike.
n-"We have had one man killet
mb and 250 men have been injured
id -And the company tells the
ns5 workers, 'We're gong to get the
sir production stae warrry about
aO the safety later'.'"
'Te minister also charged that
as the company would not report
Vol. LXI- No. 36 -dUniversity of South Carolina. Columbia, S. C. 29208 Monday, December 7, 1970
Senator McGovern"
Who spoke second
turn S
accidents to the proper authorities
and that the union had hired
lawyers to "guard the rights of
those who have had accidents."
"We are just striking over basic
human rights, not for economic
benefits," Riffe added.
"IMe government is worried
about a coalition of blacks,
workers and students. Any group
that joins us and shows they're
with us will concern the power
structure of this state."
Rita Fellers, president of the
Sir
50 USC student participat
march In Georgetown Se
Steelworkers and their uo
,ern cox
By MICHAEL BALL
Staff Writer
"She said she wanted me to run
for the president in '72; I've always
found it hard to say 'no' to
women," Senator George
McGovern (D.-S.D.) told the S.C.
Huian Reiations Council
Saturday.
The 'she' was Mrs. Victoria De
Lee who had introduced him to the
group's annual banquet, held in the
Campus Room of Capstone. Mrs.
DeLee organized the Ridgeville
School and received last year's
SCHRC Outstanding Member
award.
Earlier that afternoon
McGovern said that although he
was giving the Democratic
nomination serious thought, Sen.
Ernest Hollings was "good enough
to be considered as a presidential
trikers
Student Mobilization Committee,
addressed the workers at a rally at
the Bethel AME Church Saturday.
A group of approximately 50 USC
students participated in the rally
and march through downtown
Georgetown.
"SMC is behind you all the way -
yesterday. Mr. Estes Riffe was up
at Carolina with 30 strikers and the
administration tried to throw us
out of. the Russell House. The
building was built with student
funds so it belongs to us. They tried
Ukers cross Georgetoi
id In a protest by the Rev.
turday. The Southern ChriM
rters were led
0
nplimei
candidate." "Just because a man
enmes frnm the South I don't
believe the highest he can aspire to
is the second spot on the ticket,"
McGovern added.
McGovern praised Hollings for
his efforts in drawing hunger to the
attention of "Middle America." He
said, "Hollings provided the
crucial turning point in the war on
hunger."
"We can't go on spending 60-75
per cent of our national income on
weapons of destruction and deal
with our problems here at home,"
McGovern told the SCHRC.
He said that, in his judgment
hunger is "the most urgent and
personal prdblem facing this
nation and we're onjy half way
home."
McGovern cited the "failure of
the House to act" and a "lack of
I, I
to arrest us and throw us out --
management and our ad
ministration have a lot in com
mon."
Fellers spoke on the same
platform with the Rev. Ralph
David Abernathy, president of the
Southern Christian Leadership
Conference (SCLC), Elmer Chatak
of Pittsburg. national organizer for
the steel workers union, and Cecil
Morris of Charleston, an agent of
the National Maritime Union.
(Continued on Page 4)
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wvn
Ralph Abernathy of the
1an Leadership Conference.
nts Hol
real committment of the part of the
administration" as causes of
inadequate legislation concerning
food assistance.
He said there are very grevious
deficiencies in distribution of food
stamps and that where there are
not strong welfare programs "food
stamp allotments should be sent
through the mail the same as draft
notices."
McGovern called attention to the
"painful gap between political
rhetoric and political reality" in
America and said he hoped he
would "have enough common
sense and imagination to keep up
with the changes in this country."
He said 18 years olds would
probably be voting in the 172
presidential election and would
play a large part in the decision.
Drug syn
begins to
Drug Symposium Carolina will
begin today with a speech by Dr.
Sidney Cohen, one of the world's
foremost authorities on drugs and
drug usage.
Dr. Cohen will speak today and
tomorrow in the Campus Room at
Capstone at 8 p.m. Other featured
speakers in the four-day sym
posium will be Dr. William Abruzzi
and James Germano. The
University Union Lectures
Committee and the Visiting
Scholars Committee are spon
soring the program.
Sydney
Cohen
During the pest several years
Cohen has played an imperteat
role in dispellifg the obeculty and
counteracting the misinfam tul
sWur1 ding the whole question ef
druP and the d smene.
He is mow chief alimtatr ar
the U.S. GWvanm t 00W *
Mrs. DeLee AweMIS
Who spoke first
posm
lay
Studies of Narcotics and Drug
Abuse. National Institute of Mental
Health.
Tomorrow at 2 p.m. in the
ommons Room Cohen will meet
students and talk informally.
From 3 to 6 p.m. in room 207 of the
Russell House there will be a
'Faculty Rap Session." Par
ticipating faculty include Dr.
Robert Beamer. pharmacy: Dr.
Murray Vincent. physical educ
cation; Professor Eldon D.
Wedlock, law; Dr. Robert V.
Heckel. and Dr. Carl Insalaco.
psychological services: Dr. James
Keith. education: Dr. Thomas
Sweeney. education: Dr. Donald
Swanson. counseling Bureau: and
Dr.-)Norman Eggleston. social
work.
At 8 tonight in the Campus Room
there will be a panel discussion
with Cohen. Wedlock, Dr. Dunlap.
psychiatrist: Dr. Ben Strands.
physician, and a representative
from the Law Enforcement
Division. Dr. Vincent will
medrat and give a report an the
afternoon program.
On Wednesday Jamu Gri0ane
&frmr a ad,will"11A.
tp.m. at Capsten.Tee wil *
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