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By CARL STEPP
Editor-in-Chief
The time for putting things off is over,
President Thomas F. Jones says, and the time
for getting things done is now.
"We've been trying to do this for three
years," Jones said this week. "We've been put
off as long as we can. These things have got to
be done this year, or higher education in South
Carolina will suffer."'
Three years ago, when Jones proposed an
expansion program, he was told to wait until
the Moody Report was published.That report, a
long-range look at education and other needs in
the state, proposed drastic changes, but its
recommendations were not implemented.
"Now," says Jones, "the time hqs come. The
question isn't can we afford it, it's can we af
ford not to do it?"
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Intensly defending the University's growth
needs in an interview, Jones maintained that
the library and stadium share first place
"because they're for everybody in the
University family---both inside and outside. It's
only proper that they come first on the list
because they affect the most people."
"The word 'priorities' is unfortunate," he
stressed. "'The priority is in the time scale, not
the building scale. We intend to see that we
get all of these needs."
He termed faculty opposition to the ex
pansion priorities as "not too strong."
"The faculty has understood that the library
had equal priority, and the law, business and
nursing schools have rightfully felt they were at
the top of the list---and they are. The needs of
the University will be met."
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Jones said no major stadium improvements
have been made in 15 years. "How long do you
want to put it off?"
"I'm sure you'll find the Coliseum in one year
of operation has done more to open the mind of
all South Carolina...than anything that's ever
been done. The money couldn't have been
better spent to change the educational en
vironment.
"The stadium, properly planned, carried out
and used, will give this same payoff---another
symbol of the pride of South Carolina."
"'South Carolina always was looked on as
provincial, self-centered, stubborn and
unreceptive to new ideas by the rest of the
country. This has been the image. This en
vironment works a handicap on the University
because it makes it hard to have a completely
open environment to study and hear new ideas
th needs
"The attitude of the public toward the
University is largely shaped by how it serves
them. We've got to spread our word, and this
can only be done by giving people and ourselves
something to talk about."
Jones said there has been no sudden shift in
the University's priorities. Proposals last year
were aimed at potentially available funds from
the last legislature, but the proposal was never
formally introduced.
This summer the Board of Trustees recon
sidered. "We reset our list for now, this
legislature. That's the present list."
in September the University was requested
to give the information to the Higher Education
Commission, Jones said. The present in
formation, indicating present priorities, was
given them, he said. "They have not asked us to
come over and talk about it further."
Campus Calendar,
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Faculty
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y DONBARB
Staff Writer
A special faculty meeting is
scheduled today after 13 of its
members called last week for the
session in order to discuss the
University expansion program,
and more specifically. to discuss
the priority list of expansion set
forth by the University ad
ministration.
The meeting. set for 5 p.m. in the
Physical Science Building
Auditorium. is expected to follow
the agenda proposed by the
Leaders'
reactions
to debate:
DEAN ROBERT M. FIGG JR.
of the USC Law School refused
yesterday to comment on the
current law school-football
stadium controversy.
He added that he would like to
remain open-minded going into
today's faculty meeting. Among
the topics to be discussed will be
the priority list of Carolina's
program.
DEAN MAJORIE SANDERSON
of the Nursing School, whose
quarters are ranked above the
building of a law school, said last
night. "We do need a new nursing
school built.
"I really have faith that it will
come about and that the University
will see that it somes about."
She did not comment on the law
students' efforts to persuade the
University to re-arrange its
priorities to give the law school a
top ranking.
KENNETH TOOMBS. director
of libraries. noted that. "Each
priority has a different price tag.
The library needs $9.2 million. We
cannot do with less If we only get
$1.5 million, then we should get the
Nursing School
"As hard up as we are for
academic facilities. we should take
what we can get." he said.
Toombs refused. however, to
comment on the number one
priority given to the football
stadium. lie did add though that.
"Anyone who goes through the law
school. or the School of Nursing. or
the library can judge for himself."
PAUL DIETZEL. athletic
director and head footballcoach
comments on Page 4.
BAR RV KNOBEL. student body
president, said, "If the stadium
can be financed without jeopar
dizing the Law School, then that
will be tremendous. As it has been
explained to me, it can be done.
"The situation has been ex
plained and if it is not explained
there will be a tense situation."
RUITLEDG;E OSBORNE.
chairman of the Board of
Trustees: "With the faculty
meeting tomorrow. I don't believe
it would be becoming for me to
make a statement." lie said the
board would probably meet in
January to discuss expansion and
other mate.
meets
)riorities
petitioners--- the "necessity for a
new stadium."
And it is expected to be one of the
most controversial points
discussed.
Rumors were circulated earlier
this week that as much as 40 per
cent of the faculty stands ready to
resign if the expansion of Carolina
Stadium retains its number one
priority.
One faculty member, wishing to
remain anonymous, said yester
day that he is not surprised at the
possibility of faculty resignations.
He added, however, that he did not
foresee any significant number of
resignations.
"A lot of us might consider
resigning but it's just not that
simple." he said. "Before you
resign, you have to have
somewhere else to go. All of us get
offers occassionally from other
institutions but these offers are not
made everyday.
"But as far as I'm concerned,"
he continued, "we could have a lot
more students leaving than faculty
members. This problem greatly
affects the students. They came
here because they believed that
this University stressed
academics, not athletics."
Another faculty member, also
wishing to remain anonymous,
disagreed. "Students come here
for all kinds of reasons," he said.
"Despite what some have said to
the contrary, we are not stressing
any one program and ignoring
others. We don't have to do this
because there is absolutely no
reason why athletics cannot be or
should not be compatible with
academics. The two complement
each other."
Both sources were quick to point
out that the power of the faculty in
the controversial issues is limited.
One of the faculty members said
that he thought the public,
especially students, tends to
greatly overestimate the faculty's
decision making 'power.
"Nearly every move we make is
subject to approval from the
President and the Board of
Trustees," he said. "Actually, we
could not have an official faculty
meeting if the President disap
proved."
Both sources agreed that faculty
meetings should be closed to the
public and the press. Said one
source. "things are said in the heat
of arguments which have no truth
or meaning. A false impression
could easily be made. Also, the
press could misquote someone or
report something which did not
happen or not report something
which did "
Choir to sell records
"Come Fly with USC," a 45
minute record fraturing the
University's concert choir, will go
on sale today and Thursday
in the Russell House lobby from 9
a.m. to 4 p.m.
Priced at $3.50, the record
features music recorded live
during the choir's summer tour of
Europe Profit from the sales will
go to the choir, which is directed by
Arpad Daraza.
After Christmas, the record will
sell for $4.
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President Jones
Gamecock's
priority poll
How do the students feel about
the priority controversy over
Carolina's expansion program?
The Gamecock took a random
telephone survey of 100 students
yesterday and came up with the
following results:
Sixty-four disagreed that the
library and stadium should have
the top billing, while 32 agreed with
the administration on this point.
Three were uncommitted.
Asked what should have first
priority, 35 students supported the
law school: 19 voted for the
football stadium, while the new
library received t0 votes and the
nursing school won 12. The
remaIning 24 votes were scattered
between the new physical
education center, a new school of
Business Administration, another
women's dormitory and a park.
An overwhelming 70 per cent of
those interviewed said they
favored the over-all $112 million,
five-year expansion program
planned by the Uinivesty
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not trying to pre-empt the
nine how projects will be
financed.
As explained to some
student officials this week,
financing Carolina
Stadium's proposed
enlargement could differ
from financing academic
programs, since revenues
from stadium use would
pay back the costs.
Coach Paul Dietzel told The
Gamecock, "We are in no way in
competition with academics."
He said the athletic department
could raise "half of the money by
ourselves." The stadium's revenue
would come from a seat tax, from
relieving stadium functions, from
the amusement tax and from fund
raising by the department itself.
But. Dietzel said, the state must
authorize the stadium financing.
"We're not asking for an outright
gift. We're asking for the state's
backing for us to finance it by
ourselves."
While state backing would be
needed for a bond issue for the
stadium, the University athletic
program would actually pay all or
most of the bonding costs.
Such a plan drew hearty support
from Student Body President
Barry Knobel. who felt the
possibliities should be fully
examined and explained to
students.
"If this plan is possible, there
may be no need for the question of
'athletics vs. academics," Knobel
said. "It would be tr..nd...".
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By EDDIE CHEN
Asst Managing Editor
USC law students, continuing
their recently-launched
campaign for a new law school,
warned yesterday that the
failure to do so may endanger
the school's accreditation and
possibly result in the loss of
faculty members.
Armed with charts and
figures, the law students held a
press conference yesterday
and cited a number of reasons
why a new law school should
have number one priority over
the building of a new library,
football stadium and nursing
school in Carolina's 1970-71
expansion program.
The priority controversy
began after USC ad
ministrators announced the
expansion program last
Monday.
A $9.2 million library and
$8.5 million expansion of the
Carolina football stadium
shared the top billing on the
priority list.
A $1.6 million nursing school
ranked number two, ahead of
the $5.4 million law school.
Carl Epps, president of the
Student Bar Association, spoke
at yesterday's press con
ference, attended by various
news media and more than 250
coat-and-tied law students.
He emphasized that, "We do
this not to benefit ourselves.
Every student here today will
have graduated before any
new facility Is constructed.
"Rather, we do this because
we know of our own knowledge
and can demonstrate the
urgency of the demand for
improvement."
Conflicting
interests
emerge
When The Gamecock in
terviewed Kenneth Toombs,
director of libraries, concerning
the controversy over Carolina's
expansion priorities, a sort of
conflict of interests emerged.
He told us, "When I came
here (1967). 1 was promised that
the library was number one
priority.
"But I cannot be against the
law school when half of it would
be a law library I helped
design." he said.
And furtherore. Toombs'
daughter is a sophomore
enrolled in the School of Nur
Bing, which ranks second on the
priority list, behind the new
library and the expansion of the
football stadium.
students
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He added, "Our purpose is
not to deny that other needs
exist. Many needs exist
however, our need (for a new
law school) is the greatest that
must be met."
Epps cited figures that
showed the student-faculty
ratio at Carolina's law school is
33 to one (496 students to 15
faculty members), which he
said is the highest ratio in the
Southeast.
In library facilities, Epps
said, 1969 figures showed that
there are 124 volumes per
student here, as compared to
500 volumes per student at
University of Georgia's law
school, 331 in Alabama, 275 in
Virginia and 265 in North
Carolina. There is a total of
61,360 volumes at USC's law
school library.
The Association of American
Law Schools require its ac
credited members to have a
library seats for 65 per cent of
its students, according to
Epps, and "we can only seat 24
per cent."
Food curl
expected
By CAR L STEPP
Editor-in-Chief
Plans to offer a 14-meal board
plan next semester are expected to
be announced this afternoon at a
meeting of the cafeteria com
mittee.
At the same time, a curtailment
in the hours and menus at South
and Men's Towers cafeterias will
probably be disclosed.
The measures will be taken
because of losses suffered this fall
by the Stater-run campus food
service.
"We've had a real curtailment in
our volume this fall, due primarily
to a lack of a board plan." said Bill
Wentz. food service director.
'He said a food plan and cur
tailed service in outlaying
cafeterias would help keep prices
down and "offer maximum service
for the least cost."
Closing two cafeterias was
considered seriously. he said.
"Prom a cold-blooded business
standpoint. the logical thing to do
would be close Men's Towers and
South and do a bet ter job at Russell
House. But we don't want to lose
our service entirely
The programs expected to be
announced today will involve:
--offering a 14-meal board plan
(Monday through lunch Friday),
where students would be allowed
65 cents for breakfast, 81.10 for
lunch and $1.40 for dine. Th
cited
Th fails
The law school is now "at the
bursting seam," he said. "As a
result of such rapid growth
(from 165 in 1959 to 495 today),
we are in a state of
emergency," Epps warned.
The state ranks last in the
number of lawyers in
proportion to its population, he
said.
In New York, there is one
lawyer for every 350 persons;
in Virginia one for every 777;
816 in Georgia, and one for
1,235 in South Carolina, he said.
The national average is one
lawyer per every 621 persons,
according to Epps.
He praised the qualifications
of the law faculty and Dean
Robert Figgs' efforts in
recruiting them.
"However," he cautioned,
''should the University reveal
that it is not dedicated to
academic excellence, the best
choice for these young mem
may well to go where
academic excellence is sought.
(Continued on Page 3)
ailment
of Slater
plan wculd offer a student who ate
every meal a 23 per cent discount
from cash prices: if he missed
breakfast every day. he still would
break even. Wentz said.
---curtailing the hours of
operation and weekend service at
some outlying cafeterias.
---providing a "simpler menu
geared more to student needs...
According to Wentz. students seem
more interested in variety from
day to day than in variety in the
daily menu. Thus. students. would
get fewer choices at each meal, but
variety over several days.
---coupons would be continued.
but not discounted.
Wentz said recent student
petition calling for improvements
in the food service "has pinpointed
the seriousness of the problem and
shown that there definitely needs
to be improvement."
We're always open to new
ideas." he said.
Meanwhile, a student boycott
deadline set to' begin today if
"significant improvements" were
not made has been extended.
Joe Azar. chairman of a petition
drive to demand improved ser
vices and lower prices from the
Slater Food Service, said the ex
tension is due to timing, since most
students will soon be going hoe
for the holidays.
He said he will make an an
nouncement In January. Asar said
last night that about 2A0W students
have signed the petitins.